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A01219 An oration against the vnlawfull insurrections of the protestantes of our time, vnder pretence to refourme religion Made and pronounced in Latin, in the Schole of Artes at Louaine, the .xiij. of December. Anno. 1565. By Peter Frarin of Andwerp, M. of Arte, and Bacheler of both lawes. And now translated [by John Fowler] into English, with the aduise of the author.; Oratio Petri Frarini quod male reformandae religionis nomine arma sumpserunt sectarii nostri temporis habita. English Frarinus, Petrus.; Fowler, John, 1537-1579. 1566 (1566) STC 11333; ESTC S112684 57,035 182

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traiterous against God man for y t without any iust occasiō ye haue so long so cruelly troubled the whole estate of Christendō But you say y ● faith was wel nigh quite quēched out of the Church It is a wonderous matter ye speake of Christ praied for S. Peter that his Faith shuld neuer faile And wil ye say he praid in vaine lost his labor and could not obtain his prayer that were iniury and reproche to the sonne of God The holye Ghost came downe from heauen into the Church here militant on earth to teache her al truth Hath he not taught her you blaspheme the holy Ghost so to say But goe to let it be graunted that as you imagine all maner of fonde absurd thinges so you thought in this poynte with no lesse madnesse that the Christian Faith was lost or at least that Christian Religion being nigh outworne and spēt before your happy daies needed to be restored by such excellent graue godly and wise men as you were replenished with all maner of knowledge vertue and heauenly giftes of the sprite To be short your purpose was ye say to refourme the Christian Faith Howe then When you could not therin preuail nor perswade the people that was somewhat stubburn and stiffenecked perhaps as you iudged did you thinke it the best way by and by with gonneshot and bytels to beat and driue the faith into their heades Who euer being in his right wit did thinke that any thing might be perswaded by force Men vse to perswade the minde and not the bodye but it is moste certaine that the minde as it maye be bent led and induced by reason so by stripes blowes buffets it can neuer be compelled and constrained But it was a carnal Religion y t these flesshly Gospellers brought and taught therefore they dyd what they could to driue it into mens braynes with strokes and to prick it into mens flessh with swordes dags and daggers It may be ye were muche offended w t the vitiouse maners and ill liuing of men now a dayes In good faith and so were we there is no honest Catholike man that euer was delighted therwith But yet when we saw that it was very hard fully to cleanse purge anie one familie or how shold frō all maner of synnes sores we thought it a matter of far greater difficultie importance to amend the faultes heale y e wondes of al the whole corps of Christēdom together therfore of necessity be cause we could not remedie y t desperat case by reason of the multitude we bore w t y t cōmon and vulgare Deceases and vices of al sortes of men the cure wherof was more past hope and did take them patientlye but yet surely not without great greif and sorow to see them open preaching cōtinuallie against them But you sowr Checkmasters most bitter Controllers of maners went about lyke Iudges sent from heauen or Physitions dropte owt of the skyes to cōdēne and cut of with sword burn with fire and gunpowder all at a pushe y e faultes and folies of the whole world together Yf ye had bene officers hauing Commissiō and authoritie so to doe yet your Iudgement and processe could not be excused herein from exceding crueltie and raishnes but where it appeareth ye were but flingbraynes light Iackstrawes hauing no authoritie at al y t toke vppō you without any examinatiō without processe of law without any sentence to condemne al Christendome to rack it to punish it and with most greuouse and painefull tormentes to teare and turne vpsyde down y e whole world what shall I call this but a bloudy Butcherie a haynous wickednes a dyuelish dealing an impietie neuer to be pardoned O but say you the Catholikes did lyue vitiously the Cleargie were out of order the Princes and Rulers ruled not as they should yea there were manie ceremonies in y e Churche y t we could not brook I assure you these be greuous weighty Inditementes Who laid them in I pray you Who but you the worst men naughtiest liuers y ● euer trode on earth What blames the theefe Verres his mate Or cutthrote falles with Miles at bate The third Elias him self did playnlye confesse that the manners of men were far more vitious vnder his Gospel then euer they wer before vnder y e Popedome He hath said it It is not lawful to gainsay y e same But if any of y e disciples dare deny that which this theyr great master Pythagoras sayde the beddes are yet warme wherin these gospellers lay with other mennes wiues the Townes and Cities smoke yet of the fire wherewith they burned houses the earth is moiste at this houre with the bloude of manye good subiectes whome they haue slaine theyr Purses do swel and are yet at this present puft vp with the goods they gathered and gaines they got by roberies Simonye and Extortion Shew forthe thy brasen face Martin Luther and saye if thou dare that thou art an honester and better man then the vertuous and graue Fathers and Prelates of the Catholike Churche I wyll out of hād bring in against thee the publike Edict that the most noble Charles the fift our late foueraigne Emperour of happy memory made againste thee at Wormes the witnesse of the greate and mightye Henry the eight King of England whose sacred Royall crowne be it spoken here with leaue thou like a sluttish slaue vauntest thou wouldst anoynt with durt and donge of thy dronken body The decree of the most renoumed Sigismund king of Pole and by these euidences I wil by and by conuince thee proue that thou art worthy to be caste of Rebellion Sedition Sacrilege Impiety Heresy Finally of all manner of wicked vices and hainous offences that can raigne in a man What canst thou lay against these witnesses who were at that time the noblest the best the worthiest of credite of all that liued in our daies Theese worthy Princes Proclamations and Publike Edictes sette oute againste thy Wickednesse and Naughtye behauioure are euery where in euery mans hande published in print to the vewe and sight of the whole world Come vp againe hither frō hell if thou canst Ihon Caluine tel truth seing al y e world knoweth y t thou diddest kepe y e space of fiue yeares together a Nunne who was a Renegate out of y e Nūnerie called Veilmur y t thou diddest paye two crownes a moneth for her borde in the towne out of y t poore mens boxe of Geneua vppon condition she should come euery day to make thy bedde and learne her lesson out of thy Gospell practize how to beare y e burden of wedlocke patiently and at last when she was great w t childe by thee and had now caried abowt y e burden of her bealie three or fower monethes that thou didst bestow vppon an Apostate Chanon dwelling at Losanna thereby