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A93642	Groanes for liberty· Presented from the Presbyterian (formerly non-conforming) brethren, reputed the ablest and most learned among them, in some treatises called Smectymnuus, to the high and Honorable Court of Parliament in the yeare 1641, by reason of the prelates tyranny. Now awakened and presented to themselves in the behalf of their now non-conforming brethren. With a beam of light, discovering a way to peace. Also some quæres for the better understanding of Mr Edwards last book called Gangræna. With a parallel betweene the prelacy and presbytery. / By Iohn Saltmarsh preacher of the Gospel.	Saltmarsh, John, d. 1647.; Smectymnuus.	1646 (1646)	Wing S489; Thomason E327_20; ESTC R200661	20,628	47

conveyed over from one of them to the other Did not the Pope whip the Protestant with fines imprisonments and the Prelate take the rod our of his hand and whip the Non-conformist and the Non-conformist or Presbyter take the same rod out of the Prelates hand and scourge those that are Non-conformists to him Consid. 7. Let it be well considered whether the design of the Nationall Ministery ever since the first working of it upon the Magi●●rates hath not a design for strengthening their owne interest by the Magistracy of the Kingdomes and how have Kingdomes been embroiled for the serving of this designe and whether is not this guilded with the glorious name of Reformation Consid. 8. Let it be considered from the severall wayes and formes of proceeding in which the beleevers of severall opinions have gone in these times to support themselves which stands most on a pure Gospel spirituall bottome supported by its owne innate congeniall and proper strength clasping about no stones no pillars of the world or humane strength Consid. 9. Let it be considered whether the whole cry of the Divines of the other party as in the late booke is not all to the Magistrate Help us Parliament help us City or we are undone the Heresies and Sects will undoe us What said Ezra I was ashamed saith he to require of the King an army and horsemen to help us against the enemy in the way because we had said the hand of our God is upon all them that seek him Consid. 10. Let it be considered whether they whom he calls Hereticks and Schismaticks make it one of their choicest Principles to desire the Magistrate to help their opinions with their prisons fines pillories but rather that they would let them alone to stand and fall by the power or weaknesse of their Gospell principles and that they may have liberty to pray for them pay to them and possesse the Gospell Each Opinion stated briefly respectively to Toleration Let it be considered to what each pretended Heresie will amount to Independency INdependents beleive that since the Parishes are so generally corrupted the Churches ought to consist of those of them onely that professe more purely as they finde Scripture Rule and Practice and as the Presbyteriant themselves many of them practice in some Ordinances as that of Baptisme●nd the Supper giving them onely to the purest Beleivers They also beleive that they ought not by a few Ministers and Elders of the Churches to bring all the Churches and Congregations under their power and dominion but rather under their advice and consultation Quaere Becaus● then they practice to meet more purely and to rule lesse one over another whether is this enough that they should be fined imprisoned banished The Anabaptists THe Anabaptists so called they hold that Beleivers ought only to be baptized and that Baptisme ought to be so for the manner as may set forth Christs death buriall and resurrection by water as the Greek word and Apostles practice seems to imply and some of the ablest Divines both of England and the great Adversaries the Papists themselves deny not and for children they reade of none the Apostles Baptized and they see not any Scripture cleare enough to warrant and they therefore forbeare Quaere Because they will not practice then what is not cleare in command and confessed by all to be but in hidden consequence because they baptize as they finde the clearest rule and practice and as none can deny but it was the Apostles generall practice to baptize Believers therefore whither is this enough that they should be Fined Imprisoned Banished The Seekers SEekers some of them Question only the way of Church and Ordinances as of Baptisme c. because they finde that the power was at first given to the Apostles with gifts and from them to others and they dare not take it from Antichrist and the Bishops as the Reformed Kingdomes generally take it nor from the Churches because they finde no such power begun from the Churches but only of choyce or consent not of power nor Churches begun before Apostles or Disciples with gifts Quaere Whither then is this enough because they conceive they dare not take Ordinances but from such and in such a manner as was given at first to fine Imprison or Banish them A Modell or Short Draught of the whole difference betwixt the Divines for the Presbytery and them of the other way respectively to the Magistrate or State drawn from the late Books and Practice of both parties in a Petitionary way They of the Presbytery to the Magistrates or State WE humbly Petition ye that Hereticks and Schismaticks wee believing all that differ from us to be so may have your power inflicted upon them whither to fines imprisonment or Banishment and upon this condition ye shall have what we can doe or preach c. The Independents to the Magistrates or State VVEe humbly Petition that ye will not hazard nor endanger your civill power of the State to help our opinions against our Brethren for we are not Infallible nor Apostolicall we see but in part and that ye will not punish any of our Brethren Presbyterials or others for what they believe or differ from us in things of outward order in the Gospel and that we may have leave to pray for ye to pay tribute to ye to fight for ye and to worship the Lord among our selves peaceably as we believe and to punish us when we disturbe ye by Tumults or trouble your peace in our way of worshiping SOME QUAERES FOR The better understanding OF Mr EDWARDS last BOOK Called in Latine Gangrena But in English a Book of Scandals AGAINST The Honourable Houses of Parliament the Army the Saints and Churches of Christ that differ from him Quaere 1. VVHether this be not a new way and work of Providence to bring forth some Gospel light to the world by presenting some truth under the name and notion of errours and heresies which can scarce obtain from the Presse and Pulpit any other way of appearing abroad and if this be not to take the wise in their own craftiness and to make Mr Cranford the Licenser and Mr Edwards the Publisher of some such Truths which the world had else never known so publikely but under the form of heresie and from their two pens but under this disguise 2. Whether that Story which Mr Edwards tels of Brasteed in Kent where he sayes a woman preaches which is known to my selfe and all in that place to be a meere untruth be not a way to judge of most of his Stories Letters Relations 3. Whether this late Book called Gangrena where there are so many Letters writ to the Reverend Mr Edwards to the Worthy Mr Edwards to the Good Mr Edwards to the Father Mr Edwards to the Worthy Reverend good Mr Edwards with divers other insinuations of his own worth be not a way of seeking glory and praise from men

were once your task-masters What Ioseph said in his affliction wee shall say to you Think on us I pray you when it shall be well with you and shew kindnesse for it may be as Mordecai said yee are come to the Kingdom for such a time as this if not enlargement and deliverance shall arise from another place IOHN SALTMARSH GROANES FOR LIBERTY 1 Divisions ought to be no prejudice to the Truth BVt he upbraids us with our Divisions and Subdivisions and so doe the Papists upbraid the Protestants with their Lutheranisme Calvinisme and Zuinglianisme and this is that the Heathens objected to the Christians their fractures were so many they knew not which Religion to chuse if they should turne Christians And can it be expected that the Church in any age should be free from Divisions when the times of the Apostles were not free and the Apostle tels us it must needs be that there be Divisions In Greg. Nazian. his dayes there were six hundred errours in the Church doe these any wayes derogate from the Truth and worth of Christian Religion Quaere 1 Whether are not Divisions and Subdivisions objected now to all that are dissenting Brethren from the present way of Church-government and whether are Divisions any more scandall to Religion now then before 2 Whether is Independency Anabaptism Brownism Seekers of more evill report now then Lutheranism Calvinism Zuinglianism formerly 3 Whether is an hundred and eighty opinions as some would reckon them more to be cast in the face of Religion now then six hundred in the dayes of Nazianzen 4 Whether is this faire dealing for Brethren to make Apologies for divisions and severall opinions when they are oppressed and to turne back in accusations upon their Brethren when the oppression is off from themselves 2 Stinted formes not to be imposed The validity of which plea your Honours are best able to judge and therefore we leave it at your Barre yet these two things we know first that this forme viz. of Liturgy was never established to be so punctually observed so rigorously pressed to the casting out of all that scruple it or any thing in it Quaere 1. If former Liturgies were never established to be so punctually observed why is there such pressing now for establishment of Formes now to be observed in Worship and Discipline seeing the former Divines walkt as they thought by as true a light then as the Divines of this age doe now 2. If Synods did not formerly establish things for such punctuall observations why are there any penalties fines imprisonments called for now upon non-conformity to things established by them 3. Why are the formes composed now so rigorously pressed Uniformity so urged when such practises and designs were condemned but a few yeares since and they who urge it now would scarce then seem to believe it to be the minde of former Synods and Parliaments 4. If things were not to be rigorously pressed then to the casting out of any that scruple why now 3 No formes of particular men to be imposed on all the rest But if by Liturgy he understand prescribed and stinted formes of administration composed by some particular men in the Church and imposed upon all the rest as this we must understand or else all he saith is nothing we desire and expect that those formes which he saith are yet extant and ready to be produced might once appeare Quaere 1. If Formes composed by particular men be not to be imposed on all the rest why do the Brethren now urge upon us all and upon all the Kingdome their own Uniformity and Formes since theirs is no more a Truth to others then others Formes were formerly a Truth to them 2. Whether one Synod of Divines is not as well a few 1 compared with all the rest of the Kingdom as another Synod and the same that were but a few 2 six years since or sixty years since but a few 3 still unlesse the same numbers and accounts alter by yeares and seasons and if so what reason is there for ones imposing more then anothers since Truth is no more to be reckoned by multitudes and Synods in one age then in another 4 No binding to the use of Composed Formes All other Reformed Churches though they use Liturgies yet do not binde Ministers to the use of them Quaere 1. Why doe any Reformed Churches now undertake to binde any to the use of their Formes seeing the Churches formerly durst not usurp it and why under penalties now more then before 2. Whether is that lawfull now which was not foure years since and for these Brethren to doe which was unlawfull for their Predecessors 5 Severe imposing a sinne and a snare That which makes many refuse to be present at our Church service is not only the Liturgy it selfe but the imposing it upon Ministers Quaere 1 If imposing of Forms was a snare before how comes it to be none now 2 If Ministers were not to be compelled then why are they to be compelled now 6 Liberty in use of Formes breeds no disturbance Obj. If it be objected that this will breed divisions and disturbances in the Churches Ans. It hath not bred any disturbance in other Reformed Churches Why should the free liberty of using or not using breed more confusion then the free liberty of reading or not reading Homilies especially when Ministers shall teach people not to condemne one another in things indifferent Quaere 1 How comes it to passe that liberty in the use of Formes bred no disturbances before and yet now all is pretended to be undone if uniformity be not preserved 2 Why are Divines more jealous of conscientious and inoffensive liberty now that the Government is comming into their own hands then when it was in their predecessors 3 If Brethren are not to condemn one another in things indifferent why do they teach now a Persecution to all that conform not to things indifferent only but unlawfull as all parts in Worship and Government are which are Devices of men 7 No set Formes for the first 300 years For Christian Liturgies which the Remonstrant had affirmed to have beene the best improvement of the peace and happinesse of the Evangelicall Church ever since the Apostles times we chalenged the Remonstrant setting aside those that are confessedly spurious to produce any Liturgy that was the issue of the first 300 yeares Quaere 1. If solemne and set-formes and Directories were excepted against and accused then as no friend to the peace and happinesse of Churches why are they made now the choicest meanes of peace and unity and all those Churches condemned as erroneous that are without them 2. If no set-formes can be produced as the issue of the first 300 yeers why are they continued still * which have neither precept from Scriptures nor president from Apostles or Primitive practise to warrant them why are the crimes and will-worship