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A15336 A discourse touching the doctrine of doubting In which not onely the principall arguments, that our popish aduersaries vse, for the establishing of that discomfortable opinion, are plainely and truely aunswered: but also sundrie suggestions of Sathan tending to the maintenance of that in the mindes of the faithfull fully satisfied, and that with singuler comfort also. VVritten long since by T.W. and now published for the profit of the people of God. T. W. (Thomas Wilcox), 1549?-1608. 1598 (1598) STC 25621; ESTC S102154 130,155 343

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Apostle my grace is sufficient for thee my strength shall be persected through weakenes And why should I make anie doubt of this sith Gods election which is grounded vpon the mutable purpose and decree of God is alwaies firme and sure And sith the word not of man but of god assureth me that those whome the Lord loueth euen vnto the ende he loueth them sith that he that is for vs with vs within vs is stronger and greater then al. And sith euē the verie articles of our faith teach vs to beleeue as the Father to be Almightie whose power no creature is able to withstand so Iesus Christ to be our Lord into whose hands sith the father hath eiuen vs wee are sure no aduersarie power shall pull vs out of the same for he also is not onely constant and firme as the father but almightie also And that saluatiō which he hath wrought for me through his blood and inabled me in the power of the spirite to applye vnto mine owne hearte he will preserue and vpholde in mee together with the gift and grace of perseueraunce so that not fall euen vnto the end and in the end Wherein I am the more setled confirmed not onely by this that he dealeth not with his seruants as men do who beginne and leaue of in the turning of a hand or the twinckling of an eye but looke what worke he beginneth in his he perfecteth the same Neither yet by this that he hath giuen me and the rest of his seruantes gracious promises as that he wil be with vs vnto the ende of the worlde that his spirite shall bring vnto our remembrance the sweet and comfortable wordes of trueth and life but also by this that he hath graciouslye performed it vnto his seruants not onely vpholding them that they haue not beene carried away either with the swaye of sinne in the world or strength of corruption in them selues but euen then when they haue beene fallen in raysing them vp againe as wee see particularly in Dauid who confesseth of himselfe and in himselfe that to bee true through gods goodnesse thou hast deliuered my soule from death mine eies from teares and my feet from falling Psalme 116. And likewise in Peter whom though our Sauiour Christ foretold of Sathans malice against him and the rest of the faithfull vnder this metaphoricall or borrowed terme of desiring to winnowe them as men doe winnowe wheate yet doth withall most comfortably tell him and the rest of the faithfull in him I haue prayed for thee that thy faith faile not wherefore when thou art conuerted strengthen thy brethren And what though others in outward shewe farre better and more stronge then my selfe haue fallen awaye Doeth it therefore followe that I shall doe so likewise I tell thee no Sathan God is aboue all lawe and therefore beyonde all example And what if God to let proude fleshe and bloode vnderstande that they stande not by themselues woulde make some fearefull examples of humaine inconstancie weakenesse and waueringe to the ende that the parties themselues might bee humbled and other learne to feare wilt thou then from thence gather an vniuersall course Or on the other side if God for the comforte of al them that are feeble and weak hearted and handed in Sion would make the meanest of his seruantes most worthye instrumentes to manifeste his strength in their owne weakenesse wilt thou crosse his purpose whose power no creature is able to resist and darest thou discomfort where God goeth about to giue all consolations yea such comforts as no man can giue but he and none can haue but those that belong vnto him Ouer and besides all this god in his word hath giuen me other strong consolations against this temptation or assault of thine for in the second epistle of Timothy and the second chapter against the backe sliding and falling away of others he giueth me these two speciall comforts namely that the elect of which number I am one are out of all danger of any such falling away and againe that such hypocriticall backsliders are knowne to god and not to vs when he saith The strong foundation of god remaineth sure hauing this seale the Lord knoweth who are his And in the second chapter of Saint Iohns first epistle the holy ghost laboureth the same point that so in the mouth of two or three witnesses this as all other trueth might be established and made sure and giueth sundry consolations against it as first that none should be terrified or offended with their faultes because though such had or might haue a place in the Church yet were they neuer of the Church because the Church is the company of the elect which cannot perish and therefore also cannot fall from the grace of God in Christ Secondly because they are annointed of the holy Ghost not onely with true knowledge of saluation and eternal life but with all other graces from the same and namely with the gift of perseuerance but his owne words are most excellent and therefore let vs marke them They went out from vs saith he but they were not of vs for if they had beene of vs they should haue continued with vs. But this commeth to passe that it might appeare that they are not all of vs but ye haue an ointment frō the holy one and knowe all things And nowe with what reason or face cā Irefuse this truth of God so plainely and plentifully propounded and imbrace the lies of Sathan I tell thee I cannot fall away from the grace of god nor fall away from the faith that he hath planted in me vnles I would make God a changeling and vncertaine and that cannot be for the scripture telleth me there is not so much as a shadow of turning in his maiestie which yet that I might be the better perswaded thereof he hath alwaies by performance shewed him selfe at all times and to all his people to be such a one Shewe thou the contrary if thou canst But Sathā further presseth this temptation of mans weaknesse and abilitie to fall away from the acts indeede thereof and the effects following frō the same saying after this sort Thou hast fallen diuers vvaies and at sundry times also and therefore hast lost the faith grace that God gaue thee and so art becōe gods enimie Aud howe canst thou then be assured of fauour at his hand Herevnto I answere that I cannot or will not deny but that I haue fallen and fallen fouly yea diuers waies and sundry times and of this I haue better witnesse then thy word Sathan For first that obseruation of mine own waies that God of his grace hath wrought in me doth testifie vnto me euery day when I rise vp and euery night when I lie down that I haue and doe heinously offend and secondly the texts of holy scripture doth witnes the same as for example 1. king 8. there is not a man but he sinneth and
God and is the worke of his owne grace in vs and appointed indeede amongst other fruits of our faith notwithstanding the weakenes and wants of it which are from our selues not from god or his work in vs and therefore may indeed comfort vs for as this is a sure rule that whatsoeuer is of or from our selues may iustly discourage vs and cause vs to hang downe our heads for shame and to cast downe our hearts for feare So this is as certaine that whatsoeuer is from God may and ought as in and of it selfe specially when it is reuerently receiued and rightly vsed notwithstanding there be imperfections in them that take and vse the same yeeld vnto vs singular consolation Hitherto concerning the maior Nowe for the minor Wherevnto we answer that in the gospell the measure of repentance that is of contrition faith and new obediēce is not prescribed my meaning is that there is not shewed how great or howe much our repentance should be but rather the thing it selfe in it selfe the soundnesse of it exacted or required So that we may safelie say not the quantitie of it as whether it be litle or great suffiseth but the soundnesse truth of it suffiseth though not before God neither for there is want in vs our good works that way yet as in regard of our selues and our owne assurāce for though it be not sufficient for our purpose or before God yet it may suffice for another and as in regard of our selues For euen as not the quātity so much as the quality of faith in the truth and stedfastnesse of it is it that in some sorte commendeth vs to God but specially ministreth much comfort to our owne consciences And as not long and many praiers but short and sweet as we may say yea so do wee say and beleeue also touching all other fruits of our faith and namely our repentance And let this suffice for this point 8 Their eight argument they make thus Pride is a vice displeasing God on the other side humilitie and modestie is a vertue that he taketh delight in But for a man to say that he is in Gods fauour and is assured of eternall saluation is a point of arrogancie as againe to doubt whether he be in Gods fauour a token of modestie and humilitie Therefore for a man to say that he is sure he is in Gods fauour is a soule fault and to doubt of it is a goodlie vertue The maior of this proposition is as cleare as possible can bee and to bee prooued by manie places of the Scripture and particularly by this God resisteth the prouds and giueth grace to the humble And therefore we say nothing to it but willinglie yeeld and submit our selues to the truth thereof But the minor is corrupt and false and therefore wee denie it in both the parts or propositions of it For it is not arrogancie to be assured generallie of Gods fauour for all mercies and particularly of his grace concerning eternall saluation sith god himselfe for the better vpholding of our hearts and hopes that way hath beene pleased to giue vnto vs many gratious both proppes and promises in his worde which also in good time he will performe vnto vs as he hath done to many of his faithfull seruantes who haue gone before vs in the flesh and in the faith For this and not that is arrogancie indeede to take that which doth not belong vnto vs or to presume of this or that which we haue not and yet deceiued in our owne hearts imagine we haue it or els hauing it to be puffed vp with a conceite of hauing more then we inioy or els inioying it to be proud of it either as though we had not receiued it or as though God had giuen it vs to that end to make vs swell ouer others But to assure our selues of Gods grace and of eternall life is a doctrine that God hath deliuered in his word for the good and stay of his owne people as we haue already heard heretofore and should againe hereafter heare it prooued more at large and therefore we can not arrogate or take any more vnto our selues then that that in regard of the free fauour of God belongeth vnto vs and presume here we cannot or be proud whether we haue it or haue not for it were madnesse to be lifted vp with that we haue not and sith we haue it not of our selues but frō another we may say as the Apostle saith what hast thou that ihou hast not receiued if thou hast receiued it why reioycest thou as though thou hadest not receiued it And again we knowe God giueth no graces to any euill ende howesoeuer man in his owne corruption and Satan in his malice against him abuse them many times thereto but as the graces themselues are good so both he in his purpose doth and we in our practise ought to aime at good endes and effects that so the one answering the other he might haue glory other mē good and our selues cōfort On the other side it is not humilitie to doubt of Gods fauour but distrustfulnes or doubting rather for humilitie respecting not God or not reaching vnto him though it be acceptable in his eyes as other good thinges are but concerning men who when he considereth either himselfe his sinne and misery thereby or els God in his maiestie might iustice c. as a sharp reuēger of the same hath iust occasiō to be thrown downe is a holy blessed virgine whereas distrustfulnesse or doubting arising from the corruption of our hearts and an imagination touching the height or heinousnes of our iniquities or ignorance of gods diuine nature and holy word as though he could not or would not forgiue vs is a foule vice because it dishonoureth God in the riches of his mercie and addeth affliction vnto a fearefull and distressed soule And both these points me thinketh we may see plaine by and earthly comparison For as when a great prince or person that both hath largenesse of power and soundnesse of good will shal promise vs much and wil vs in the word of a prince to assure our selues and be bolde then to doubt were folly in our selues and discredit to the person that offereth would performe such singular fauour so is it in this behalfe betweene vs and God whose power we cannot doubt of not onely because it is absolute and infinite but also because he hath effectually in all ages and to euery person performed whatsoeuer he hath faithfully promised and whose good will we may not call into question he hauing giuen vs so many assurances thereof as his sweete promises the death of his sonne the pledge of his spirit and many particular graces both outward and inward as he hath beene pleased to bestowe vpon vs. So that we may see it is not pride but Christian humilitie not onely to thinke or speake lowely of but as it were to distrust yea
cause by reason of their badd dealing to suspect feare doubt doubting there or thē can not be said to be sinne or euil yet as in respect of God who not onely in his owne nature is alwaies like vnto himself free from the least shaddow or shew of turning that may be but as in regard of his action and practise towards all his people in all ages hath manifested himselfe powerful and faithful as their is no reason to doubt so wee cannot doe it but with dishonour to his maiesty and so by consequent also with sinne to our owne soules But let vs proceed 12 Their 12. argument is this No man can certainely conclude that the holy ghost hath kindled or wrought in him faith and other vertues the reason is because they may likewise spring from humane reason Therefore no man can certainely determine that he is in Gods fauour or that he pleaseth God The antecedent of this Enthymeme or imperfect syllogisme as also the confirmation or proofe of the same adioyned thereto are as false as possible may be and as directly thwarting the light and trueth of the word as can bee for out of the word we may reason thus first cōcerning faith It is either the gift of God or it is of nature because betweene there is no meane but it is not of nature for then all men should haue it though not happilie all alike because there is now and then some defect in nature but that is false as the Apostle sheweth 2. Thess 3. saying all men haue not faith therefore it is naturall or of nature and then by consequent it must needs be of God which yet also is warranted vnto vs by plaine texts of Scripture as Philipp 1. Vnto you it is giuen for Christ that not onely yee should beleeue in him but also suffer for his sake And againe Rom. 10. where he saith how they call on him in vvhome they haue not beleeued hovv shall they beleeue in him of vvhome they haue not heard how shall they heare without a preacher c. And if faith from whence all good works flow be the gift of god then must also good workes themselues come from him also because if the first be from him the second likewise And yet least we should thinke that this were not Gods owne and according to his truth but a humane inuention the Scripture that attributeth the worke of faith vnto God ascribeth also al other vertues in vs vnto him For that must euer be true the Apostle speaketh Philip. 2. It is God who worketh in vs both the will the deed according to his good pleasure and Ephes 2. We are his workemanshippe created in Christ Iesus vnto good works which god hath ordained that we should walke in thē For otherwise if we respect our selues in this behalfe I meane of doing good works as from nature wee must say as the Psalmist saith there is none that doeth good no not one they are become all corrupt and abhominable or as the Apostle saith else where not that we are sufficient of our selues to thinke a good thought which is the beginning of a good work but all our sufficiēcy is from god Nay which is more when God hath begunn good thinges in vs wee doe what wee can through the remainders of our corruption either vtterly to deface them or so by imperfectiōs cleauing vnto them to taint them that were they not ouershadowed with the absolute righteousnes of Christ we and they both might iustly be reiected from god And there fore he that knoweth either nature or grace God or man his word or the world cannot but certenly conclude that faith and all other vertues are from God by his spirite and not from man in his nature euen as Saint Iames chap. 1. in a generall sentence affirmeth it Euerie good giuing and euerie perfect gift is from aboue and commeth downe from the father of lights And the proofe or confirmation adioyned to this proposition it selfe for neuer was it heard in the schoole of god or among sound christians that faith and good works might spring frō humane reason For which purpose notable is that speach of our Sauiour Christ vnto Peter after the worthy confessiō that he had made saying thou art that Christ that sonne of the liuing God vnto whome Christ saieth againe Blessed art thou Simon the sonne of Ionah for flesh and blood hath not reuealed this vnto thee but my father which is in heauen Matth. 16. To the same ende also tendeth that that the Apostle saith 1. Corinth 2. But the naturall man perceiueth not the things of the spirit of God for they are foolishnesse vnto him neither can he know them because they ar spiritually discerned And what should Saint Paule meane else when Rom. 8. he sayeth the wisdome of the flesh is death and againe the wisdome of the flesh is emnitie against god for it is not subiect to the lawe of God neither indeed can be but that it is not in the vnderstanding will or power of man to knowe loue or obey the good things of god till he be inlightned strengthened and inabled from aboue And if it were so that these good thinges doe spring from humane reason why doe we not refuse or forsake the worde and resist the working of gods holy spirit as thinges needlesse and vnnecessarie or why doe we say the Heathen and Gentiles are voide of faith and good workes seeing they haue as much of nature and humane reason as we or any other And besides the obseruatiō of our own hearts will shewe vs the vanity falshood both of the propositiō cōfirmatiō of it for in our cōuersiō to god or repētāce we sensibly feele both the one the other namely faith without which we could not convert it sealing vp in our hearts the forgiuenes of our sinnes for Christs sake the holy ghost quickening stirring vs vp as to that so to other good works besides according to which S. Paul faith Rom. 5 that beeing iustified through faith we haue peace towards God And Rom. 8. The spirit that is the holyghost witnesseth vnto our spirits that we are the children of god And therefore Augustine though indeed I doe not greatly delight in allegation of humane authorities in a certaine place saith well he that beleeueeth knoweth that he beleeueth to witte whilest that in the feares terrours of his heart and conscience God is pleased to make him feele consolation and comfort for they that acknowledge and consent vnto the trueth of Gods word and by serious thinking vpon and cōfortable feeling of the promises of the Gospel vphold their hearts and hope they in whatsoeuer estate or disteesse they be yea though they walke in the valley of the shadowe of death or as we say in the middest of death it selfe they haue experience of and sensibly feele consolation Whereby we may see that when a man hath an assured perswasion or a
concerning the forgiuenesse of our sinnes or the sauing of our soules or concerning any other grace whatsoeuer and approoueth not of doubting at any hand the reason whereof is plaine because Gods promise manifested vnto vs in his word and the faith that he hath wrought in our hearts by his word and spirit and not our naturall doubting distrust they are relatiues that is to say such things as one presupposeth another namely that a promise implieth faith or els the promise is of no force as in regard of men and faith implia promise as the proper and peculier obiect of it or els it cannot be counted faith And sith the promise indeed cannot otherwise be either seene but by the eye of faith or apprehended and laid hold of but by the hand of faith which point the Apostle sheweth Ro. 4. when he saith therefore it is by faith that it might come by grace the promise might be sure to all the seede c. it must needes followe that faith as Gods worke in his children and Gods promises as from himselfe not doubting or distrust are relatiues as we call them And good reason both for the affirmation and negation for such as the promises are such must the instrument be apprehending the same but the promises are spirituall and from God and so is faith in vs and not doubting for that is from the corruption of our owne nature which hath no acquaintance with God or goodnesse till it be altered and changed from aboue And therefore we may safely conclud and say establish gods promise or faith is established and put doubting on Gods promise is euacuated for therfore is it of faith as was said before out of Rom. 4. that the promise might be sure then if it be not of faith but of doubting the promise is not firme or sure to wit to vs though as in regard of it selfe and God the giuer of it it is alwaies certaine And this is that also which I thinke Saint Iohn meaneth when he saith he that beleeueth not God as he hath reuealed him selfe in his worde and specially in his promises hath made him a lier because he beleeueth not the record that God witnessed of that his sonne But against this our popish aduersaries put many exceptions as first they say that men must doubt not as in respect of Gods promises but as in regard of their own indignity or vnworthinesse because we are worthy to obtaine or haue that which God hath promised For it may so fall out that because a man hath failed in the conditions annexed to Gods promises he may rightly doubt whether he shall haue that which god hath promised that is to say men should not doubt whether God will faile in accomplishing of his graces and promises made vnto vs but lest we performe not the conditions adioyned thereto because god hath not promised eternall life nor any thing else but vnder condition or else they meane that doubting is not to be referred to gods promises but to our defects and the impediments of our infirmities least happily we want the accomplishment of the conditions ioyned with Gods promises This is their exception but we answer that both their affirmation in their exception and their explanation of it also for of these two parts doeth it consist are starke nought for whatsoeuer they say or howsoeuer they interpret their owne speaches yet if they enioyne and teach men to doubt whether God for Christs sake will be mercifull to such as beleeue in him they appointe or instruct them to doubt of the grace of God because Gods grace Christs merits mans faith being gods worke in vs are not nor cannot be disioyned which they are if men doubt or do teach others to doubt of all or of any of them specially if that doctrine of doubting be receiued But wee will more particularly looke into the wordes and matter of this exception They tell vs that we should not doubt as in respect of Gods promises who would doubt of that or thinke or say so vnlesse he were some notable Atheist or blasphemer who for his thoughts but wordes especially should rather haue his tongue pulled out of his head and be iustly executed by death then be suffered to liue amongst men But that we should doubt of our owne vnworthinesse because we are vnworthie to obtaine or to haue accomplished Gods promises vnto vs that we are indeed vtterly and altogether vnworthy of all or any good thing from god no godly man I thinke wil deny nay and if it will pleasure our aduersasaries we will graunt them more then that namely that we are worthy of all punishmēt both temporall and eternall in body and soule Howebeit this will not followe that because we are vnworthy of the graces god should not bestowe his mercies and graces where as pleaseth him or this that therefore we should not doubt or distrust God and his mercies For this is no vse of our own vnworthinesse either in the sight or sense of it to make vs to call into question or to controuert the trueth of gods promises nay rather if there be any vse of it that way ouer and besides the vnfained humiliation of vs at the feet of god it serueth rather to instruct and teach vs that which the Apostle doth deliuer in his epistle to the Romanes that where sine hath abounded there grace hath abounded much more Yea we say further concerning this point of our vnworthinesse that we should not therefore doubt of gods fauour or the forgiunesse of sinnes the reason is because the trueth and cerenty of gods promise dependeth not vpon our owne worthinesse ot vnworthinesse for that were to subiect vnto man but on the power fidelity and free fauour of god towards vs neither is it confirmed vnto vs because we are worthy of it or made voide and of no effect because we are vnworthy for that shall neuer be found true both in mercy and iudgement that the Apostle saith If we beleeue not yet abideth he faithfull he cannot deny himselfe but therfore was the promise both giuen and published therefore is Christ also become our Mediatour because we are vnworthy and that the father for his sake might become mercifull gratious vnto vs according to which it is said Rom. 8. Now then there is no condemnation to them that are in Christ Iesus c. Whereas had not our vnworthinesse beene neither had gods grace so plainly and plentifully appeared neither indeede could Christ haue become our intercessor or Mediatour And therefore our vnworthinesse should bee soe farre off to worke in vs any doubting of gods goodnesse Christs merits howsoeuer as in regard of our selues it may iustly humble vs and hold vs from presumption opiniō of desert c. that it should rather make vs make speed thereto to labour the steedfast apprehension thereof and indeed we are to set against the greatnesse of our vnworthinesse the infinite
therfore or fruits of my faith will I gather this trueth against thee to the staying vpholding of mine owne heart And first because the holy spirit of God and the infallible testimonie that it yeeldeth vnto my heart is a principally propp and stay vnto me I tell thee Sathan that euen that shall testifie vnto my spirite that I am Gods childe and dare therevpon without feare or trembling call vpon him and say Abba O father by which I perceiue I doe beleeue for otherwise how could I call vpon him in whome I beleeue not and assuredly knowe that I haue faith because I stay my selfe wholy and onely vpon him saying unto him in some sorte and sense as the Prophet Dauid saieth Lord vvhome haue I in heauen but thee and in earth I desire none vvith thee And least Sathan should thinke I doe this without warrant or reason I will not feare or bee ashamed to set downe my grounds out of the word How comfortable is this saying of the Apostle Romaines 8. Wee haue not receiued the spirite of bondage to feare againe but the spirit of adoption whereby vve crye as vvith boldnesse so vvith earnestnesse father father The same spirite witnesseth vvith our spirite that vvee are the children of God if children then heires also c. To the same ende tendeth that of 1. Cor. 2. Where he saieth We haue receiued not the spirite of the vvorld but the spirite vvhich is of God that by it vve may know the thinges that are giuen vnto vs of God And though this be sufficient and indeede greater then all exception yet haue we besides the powerfull working of the same spirite framing vs and fashioning vs to sound cōuersion before god and to the yeelding orbringing out of the sincere fruits of faith that is to say good workes which cannot but assure me of my saluation and of Gods grace and confirme me in the certaine hope of the one and the other And this is that which Saint Peter prouoketh vnto when he saieth Brethren g ue diligence by good vvorkes to make your calling and election sure for if yee do these thinges yee shall neuer fall because by this meanes an entry shal be ministred vnto you aboundantly into the euerlasting kingdom of our Lord Sauiour Iesus Christ And of this truth we haue further this double reason If that which is from our selues as for example our sinnes maye iustlye mooue and make doubting why should not that which is from God as for example the fruits of our vnfeined faith and obedience ministet hope and assurance God I am sure is greater then man and his graces much more excellent then mans infirmities are base and vile And if this were not true howe should we that carrie gods heauenly treasures in earthen vessels conceiue hope of profiting by them in our selues or of doing good with them vnto others But wee are assured of the one the other notwithstanding our weaknesse and wants therefore we must also conceiue hope of the former indeed assure our hearts therein Againe why doth Christ dwell in our hearts by faith as the Apostle saieth in his Epistle to the Ephesians it is to this ende that he might be idle in vs no verily Sathan when he possesseth men will not suffer them to be idle much lesse Iesus Christ but prouoke them still to honest labours and good workes For by his spirituall power he manifesteth his owne strength in the middest of our manifold weakenesses Nowe if that bee true then this ensueth therevpon that I am Christs and Christ is mine as the Church faithfull soule singeth in the booke of the Canticles yea he himselfe with all his graces and merits whatsoeuer So that he which feeleth and findeth these effectes in himselfe can not but must of necessitie inferre therevpon that he hath faith and that therefore he hath Christ in him in this life making him fruitefull vnto all good works and sealing vp vnto him in him saluation euerlasting life in that which is to come Vnlesse that he would imagine that Christ could be idlye or without fruite in the hearts of his people which were blasphemy And yet we may be the better assured hereof because true faith indeed can no more be sundred from good workes which are the sound fruits thereof then light from the sunne or heat from the fire or if you will the shaddow from a naturall bodie But yet Sathan will except against this This faith of thine which thou speakest of and these fruites of it that thou mentionest they are imperfect they are faint and few yea they seeldome or verie rarely appeare or are seene What then Satan Graunt that my faith and good works are faint and few in me wilt thou infer that therefore I haue none that is against all reason and religion In reason he that hath but a sick pining or languishing life liueth still and in hope of the bettering of his estate either as in regard of this world if god will or as in respect of the life to come especially And why shoulde not this in measure and manner be true as in respect of our spirituall life here In religion we know that God accepteth both the whole Church the seuerall mēbers of it according to that they haue and not according to that they haue not prouided alwaies that that which they haue they haue it frō him or els how could the Church members of it reioyce or cōfort thēselus in the thing that they do And frō hence is it indeed that we learne notwithstanding weaknes wants either in whole congregations or seuerall members not to breake the vnitie of the spirit in the band of peace nor to forsake the fellowship of the brethren and the exercises of the Church as the manner of sinne is but n holy wisdome and power from aboue to put a difference betwixt good and euill and that not onely in our perswasion but in our practise not forsaking the good of our God for some euills or corruptiō of man adioined therewithall nor yet for the goods sake iustifying or approouing the euill And if this were not sufficiēt yet we haue further props to our faith here namely first that though our faith be weake and faint yet is it true and sound For euen that faith which is infirme and weake may yet notwitstanding be true right the reason is because that not weake faith and true faith are opposite but weake faith and no faith And this we may see also by the worthy speech of the father of the sicke childe in the Gospell Lord I beleeue but helpe thou mine vnbeleefe This weakenes imperfection our faith not comming from it selfe nor being in it selfe as of it selfe for so it is an excellent and an absolute worke of God but as it is intermingled with the remainders of our vnbeleeuing heart which yet notwithstanding the faintnesse and weaknesse of it may no lesse effectually