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A19855 A detection of that sinnful, shamful, lying, and ridiculous discours, of Samuel Harshnet. entituled: A discouerie of the fravvdulent practises of Iohn Darrell wherein is manifestly and apparantly shewed in the eyes of the world. not only the vnlikelihoode, but the flate impossibilitie of the pretended counterfayting of William Somers, Thomas Darling, Kath. Wright, and Mary Couper, togeather with the other 7. in Lancashire, and the supposed teaching of them by the saide Iohn Darrell. Darrel, John, b. ca. 1562. 1600 (1600) STC 6283; ESTC S109292 232,635 230

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a worde is a miracle that miracles were ceased be fore there tymes we may remember that when and to whom this peculiar guift to cast diuels out of the bodyes of men was giuen then and to the same persons was there withall giuen to heale euery sicknesse and euery disease for asmuch then as Tertullian Ciprian Ambros Augustine Chrisostom Prosper had not the guyft to heale sycknesses and diseases to giue sight to the blyndect It can not therfore be that these fathers had this Apostolicall guift as Kemnitius affirmeth the Dis woulde haue it yea the thinge it selfe sheweth the contrary and Kemnitius the Dis with him ouerthroweth him selfe in his owne wordes The possessed saith he were brought into the church in the times of those fathers and were often times deliuered by the common prayers of the churche e●go not by my 〈◊〉 Did the Apostles cast out Satan thus or rather hauinge authoritie ouer the diuils commauned them in the name of Iesus to go forth and immediatly they departed yf these fathers had the same guifte wyth the Apostles as is here affirmed why did they not vse it in the same manner and with like successe that they did I meane the present and spedy dellyuerance of the partie possessed but cast Sathan out after another māner with more longer delay greater help● then euer the Apostles did or had For howe●oeuer there is not mention made in the scriptnres of all those the Apostles dispos●e●sed by farr yet by infallible reasons taken out of them it is cleare that the Apostls did not deliuer any that were possest by the common prayers of the churche as it is here said of these auncient fathers They had a more readie and easie way to driue out the vncleane spirit of what kinde so euer it was Luk. 9. 1. actes 16. 18 ct by a worde yea some times lesse sufficed which as it did more set forth their authoritie and power ouer wicked spirits so it commended also their doctrine and ministrie actes 19. 12. It is very likly also that vpon the shadowe of ● peter deuilles went out actes ● 15. 16. aboue this e●e●●ing of satan by praier espetially beinge assisted therin by others It can not therefore be that the Apostles did at any time dispossesse sathan by the publique praiers of the church as is here affirmed and that truly of those fathers Nowe what doth these thinges argue but this that howesoeuer the same expulsiō of Diuels out of mens bodyes continued in the churche and was in the times of Tertullian Ciprian Ambrose Chrisostom c. yet the Apostolicall power ouer Diuels was before tho●e times gone and no man then guifted with that power If in these deliuerances by the publick praiers of the church whereof Kemnitius speaketh ●ertullian Ciprian ct had any pecular guift as it is here sayde I demaund of the Dis for Kemnitius is dead and he is of his iudgment otherwis he would not haue alleadged him first what this guift was for the the same that the Apostles had notwithstanding they both say it it is cleare it was not 2. why rather one of these should haue a guift in casting out diuels then the people or any of them that ioyned with them in such expulsyon seeing the meanes whereby Sathan was cast out was prayer and that the people present prayed intreted god in this behalfe as well as these their leaders and their prayers were not in vayne but as well preuailed with god as the supplycations intercessions of their ministers for what though percase the prayers of these holye men were more feruent and by consequent auayled more with god then the requests made by any priuate christian shall we therfore ascribe such expulsiō of the diuell to one perticular man and therewithall I knowe not what speciall guift therein what is this in effecte but to make the praiers of the rest of gods people present● as speaches spoken in the ayere and beatinge it and such as god rega●deth not 3. seinge by the Dis owne secret confession men were possessed in Tertullian Ciprian ct there dayes why not now 4 Seeinge in the dayes of these auncient fathers men were dispossessed and Satan cast ovt by the prayers of the faithfull why maye not men be dispossessed nowe vpon the vsinge of the same meanes were the prayers of gods people then mightie with god to the expellinge of Sath an and are they of no force nowe or rather is it impossible they shoulde preuayle so nowe and in these our dayes as the Dis because Kemnitius saith so will needes haue it In a worde what letteth it that men may not nowe in this our time be dispossessed by prayer or praer and fastinge as well as when Tertullian Ciprian Ambrose Chrisostome Augustine and Prosper liued 2 seinge that in their dayes miracles were ceased and an end put to them as well as nowe and that these fathers had no more a guifte to worke miracles then M. More my selfe whome God hath pleased amonge others to vse in the lyke work These questions I desire the Disc to answer and I will expecte it at his handes if euer he replie excepte he be contente in plaine expresse termes to yelde to this truthe And thus we see that rather then the Disc will haue nothinge to saie against dispossession in these daies he will bring vs yet the error at least of one man that he saith so it is inoughe forsooth because he was otherwise greatly learned But howe proueth the Disc Isa 8. 20 this out of the holy scriptures which seinge he doth not nor I trust can not it is because there is no light in him yet wysely must we obserue here what Kemnitius error is least we shoulde doe iniurye euen to the deade Herein he said then very truly that the guift is ceased and very fitly also against the Papist against whome he writ whose exorcists chalenge such a guift where vp on as did the Apostles so doe they ad●vre or charge the spirits to goe out only herein he spake as a man and mistooke the matter first in that he tooke this guift to continue in the church vntill and in the aforesaid fathers times 2 in that he thought as it seemeth that there is no castinge out of Diuels now becaus that guift is ceased for besides that extrordinarie and miraculus kinde of eiection of sathan which beinge temporarie continued only in the churche whiles other miracles lasted and together with them had an end which was longe before some of these fathers dayes There is an other ordinarie and perpetuall viz. by prayer or praier and fastinge By this meanes and after this manner the aboue named fathers in ther times cast out diuels and not by any peculyar and miraculus guift bestowed vpon them continuinge in the church vntill theire dayes And thus are or may be euil spirits cast forth at this daye and whereas he scornefully addeth If
land against him for that so saying he made them guilty of innocent bloude It is to be remembred that howsoeuer in plaine and express● wordes the Disc doth not affirme that none can in these dayes be dispossessed yet in effect he doth it vnder the name of 〈◊〉 So albeit he doe not saye that none can be now possessed with diuels yet consideringe his couert carriage of him-selfe there-in not once grantinge I warrant you in all his greate volume any such thing● and that he will haue all the possessed persons among vs and the Papistes also counterfeits as appeareth by this his first bookes who can cōiecture any other but that he holdeth that none can be as this day possessed In like-sorte I say be doth here by witches not plainly denyinge any such to be but secretly insinuatinge as much to the reader Thus wee see he doth deny but couertly dispossession of diuels 2. possession with diuels 3● all compact with diuels to the hurt of others ●f he proceede but one stepe further it wil be couertly to the deniel of diuels VVell this I dare be boulde to say of the Disc whosoeuer he be that howsoeuer he professe that he beleueth in god and that there are diuells yet by this very worke of his this Discouerie I meane he denyeth both OF CHAP. 7. OF THE CAVSES PRETENDED WHY MEN ARE POSSESSED Alyce Goodrig of Staphenhill in Darbishire hauinge a spirrit called Minnye in the likenesse of a dogge partie colored red and white did send● the same to torment pag 37. Thomas Darling the seauen in Lancashire were as it semeth possessed by the meanes of one Edmond Hartley pag. 41. and a little after But Thomas Darlinges veniall sinne exceded the rest for he meeting Alice Goodrige in a coppice did let an escape as the book tearmeth it which shee taking to be done in her contempt vsed these wordes Gip with a mischife and fart with a bel I will goe to heauen thou shalt goe to hel And there-vpon her Minme entred into him Howsoeuer the Disc derideth this reported in the booke of Darlinge and no maruell seeinge he is perswaded that there are no witches yet there is in reason how strange and incredible so euer it seeme to carnall reason to perswade vs to receiue it for a trueth for first we haue Alice Goodrige the witch confessinge this of her selfe and that sundrie times 2. the circumstances mentioned in her confession are true vpon such a day sayd she I met Darlinge in such a place or wood called the coppice and the boy leting an escape as the booke termeth it I mistaking the boy for one Sherrats boy who had before broken me a basket of egges vsed these wordes Gip with a mischeife c. and there with-all bad my Minnie goe and torment him who after returninge vnto me said he had done soe Consideringe now that it is very true and knowne so to be to others that this Alice m●t Darlinge vpon the daye and in the place named that Darlinge then and their did and Sherrats boy also before as is here specifyed and that she vsed these wordes aforesaid and lastly that the very same night D●●ling began to be sicke and so continued worse and worse vntill 〈◊〉 as euident as the daylight at noone that he was tormented by the diuell who I say consideriug these things can in reason otherwise ● thinke but that shee saith truly concerning her sending of her Minny to torment Darling As then it is certaine yea so certaine as without blushing it cannot be denyed that Darlinge was tormented by the 〈◊〉 so it is hereby very playne that Alice Goodrige did there abouts confederate with her familiar spirit Moreouer in that we reade the like of others we are thereby to be confirmed herein Alice Samuell a witch of Warboyse confessed as is set downe in the printed booke that shee sent her spirit called Pluck The 〈◊〉 execution of the witches of warboyse to M. Throgmortons children and willed him to goe and torment them And that they were tormented by the diuell euen 5. of his daughters it is notoriously knowne and so generally receaued for truth as the Dis himselfe dareth not deny it though fayne he would as appeareth by his nibling at them If this now were true that Alice Samuell saith of herselfe why shoulde not the like confessed by Alice Goodrige of herself be also true And yf the one of these strengthened especially by sundry circumstances we can all of vs beleiue why should we not credite the other also confirmed by as many yea more and as strong circumstances as the other● But what is it that offendeth the Dis somuch and maketh the confession of Alice Goodrige so incredible yea ridiculous vnto him doth this offend him that shee sent her familiar spirit to goe and torment him or this that she was so malitious and cruell vpon so small occasion or this that her spirit was in the forme of a dogge or this that her spirit had a name 〈◊〉 M●●y agreed vpon I meane betwixt them or this that the deuill did vsually as it should seeme appear vnto her like a little dogger or rather all these and especially that any man or woman should haue such familiarity entercourse of speach and thus compact or confederate with the diuell Least these should be as stombling blockes in our way as it shoulde seeme they are in the Discouerers let vs add to that is aforesaide these twoe thynges First that his last which is the strangest and indeede all in all is according to the scriptures and that some of these rest haue likewise in the generall though not in the particuler confirmation from the holy scriptures for by them it playnly appeareth that among the sonns and daughters of men there are some which haue familiarity with diuels haue speech and compact with them about this and that action chap. 28. 7. Heerevnto serueth that in the first of Samuell 〈…〉 that Saule repayred vnto is said to haue a familiar spirit And in that the diuell at her call appeared vnto Saule in the likenes of Samuell and had speach with him what should let vs to thinke that if not always yet somtimes and when she would the diuell 〈◊〉 vnto her in this or that forme and had 〈…〉 are said to worke with spirits 〈…〉 and they confederate in the same workes and therefore no doubt Levit 19 31. Lev 20. 6. this phrase or manner of speach is vsed ●●●shall not saith Moses ●●●gard them that worke with spint● 〈…〉 worke with spirits The second thing to be obserued is that not onlye Alic Samuell but thousands other haue confessed the like as strange and incredible as these of Alice Goodrige and the truth of the same haue bene confirmed by many circumstances wherevpon these kind of people witches I meane haue receaued the punishment due to such malefactors Neither did this Alice Goodrige escape vnpunished but was for
from his maister woulde to that 〈◊〉 end counterfeyt to be possest with the diuell 2. It is to be 〈◊〉 cred what I did f●r him in this behalfe when he had performe 〈◊〉 co●dition on his pa●t● euen that ●s heere aforesaide which 〈…〉 Disc●uerer 10. M●i●ss● Wallys a●cording to M. Darrells former wordes did send for M. Dar. to come vnto him Darrell This is answered before pag 〈…〉 where we must obserue that this circumstance with the 4. next precedent haue b●ne purposly inserted in th● 〈◊〉 ther in part tru or seining so to be to the 〈◊〉 the accusation it sel●e might therby seeme to 〈◊〉 eaue sony confirmati●n whereas were all 〈◊〉 the whole as they are n●t yet 〈◊〉 as t●uching the life of it I meane my teachinge 〈◊〉 be must sa●e as in deede it is which but for 〈◊〉 here haue ma le very playn And thus much 〈◊〉 a●●caldged by the D●●c for the 〈◊〉 now followe ac other circumstances generally 〈◊〉 Dis●ur●r 〈…〉 b●●des set downe by the Disc 〈…〉 Certavne 〈◊〉 as first that I with ●om 〈◊〉 Tau●rne int●rteyned him with good Darrell Be●ng at supper with diuers preac●ers at the signe of the castle Somers came in and one of the company not my selfe willed him to ●it downe and to take part with vs which accordingly he did As before the Disc would haue the reader imagine that I was an alehouse haunter so here a haunter of tauernes but he hath two certificats cō c●●ng my life and conuersation with about 200. handes subscribed that te●●eth him it is otherwise whereby his sinne herein is made the greater pag 89. the 2 generall 〈◊〉 Discouerer 2. When So. was accused to haue bewitched one M. Dar. dealt with the Maior of Nott that he might be bayled Darrell It shall be heereafter shewed that this is false But why might I not well haue done so had I beene then at Nott. as I was absent● seing it is manifest as in his place will apeare he was innocent of the murther for which he was imprisoned and so hardlye intreated through t●e mallice of some And how doth that conclud the compact of counterfeyting betwixt vs two or what lodgick call you this Discouerer 3. Whilest M. Darrell was at Nottingham he had secrett conference with So. diuers times pag. 90 th 3 general 〈◊〉 Darrell I neuer had speach with him in priuate vntill about 9. weekes after his ●ispossession neither is there any thing deposed to the contrary no not by So. himselfe and that was to my remembrance only once as I haue deposed the occasion whereof I can shew vpō his father in lawe Robert Coopers request I did it But be it diuers times why might I not lawfully speake with him apart I thinke in some respect better then others both in regard of his former affliction and the danger he was in aboue others and that he was one ouer whose soule I was by my calling to watch Yf this be a good circumstaunce against me 〈◊〉 will likewise be of some strength against some others in Nott. whome I could name who talked with him apart as well as I and ofter too especially meeting with the other circumstances as that they knew him dwelt in the same towne with him so as they might haue sufficient opportunity to meete togither were o●t with him with many circumstances more as strong as these obiected against me But I will shew wherein this circumstance is defecliue whereby the weaknes of it may yet better appeare Yf they which haue deposed to our secret diu●rs conferences had gone a little further and said that they harkning heard 〈◊〉 commend him for doing such a trick well and such a feate excellently well so as my selfe could not haue bettered it or to some such purpose then had there bine a circumstance indeede euen a 〈…〉 ●ed 〈…〉 pro●ably 〈…〉 ne notion but that the 〈…〉 take the circu●stance as it is of my 〈…〉 him and it is of no validity at all Discouerer 4. When 〈…〉 him thus 〈◊〉 90 the 4 〈…〉 all 〈…〉 them 〈…〉 Darrell The ●arr was this He said that he had counterfeyted I denyed ●nd gainsaide the same Now in this letter ●athan by his instrument did goe about to perswade me to cease to contend against counterfeyting that is for the Lorde and his worke and thus the truth is that I haue counterfeyted and it is to your discredit that you haue bene deceaued by mee but much m●re discredit will it befor you if you meddle further in it giue ouer therefore your contending against my counterfeiting But suppose that So. ment as the Disc pretendeth that there had bene some packing betwixt 〈◊〉 concerning counterfeyting and that he had expressed his meaninge in playne wordes the same had not made mee guilty of teaching him except Somers bare accusation did suffice therto and then had the matter bene long since on t of controuersy and the Disc might well haue saued a great deale of labour And heere by the way note the wisdome of the Disc And euidente ●gne that the 〈…〉 plentifull in 〈…〉 that will strengthen So. accusation by Somers letter that is a Somers by Somers 2. Let vs heere obserue how that notwithstandinge the extreame folly hee sheweth heerein and in the rest of his circumstances yea generally in all that he saith throughout all the discouery yet alas many by his lyes and very fables haue bene drawne from beleeuing the workes of god to giue eare to his slaunders and foolery and to iustifye the wicked and condemne the iust which are haynous synnes beefore the Lord● VVell it must needes be that offenses come 〈◊〉 18. 6 ● but wo be to that man sayth Christ by whome the offence commeth it were better for him that a mill-stone were hanged about his neck and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea The falshood and vanity of his fift circumstance of turning my cappy as touching the witch pag. 9● ths 5 circu●stanc● pretended by me to haue sent her spirit into S●m relying only vppon the Disc bare report I for breuity omit referring the Reader for his satisfaction therein to the beginning of the story concerning Somers OF CHAP. 2. 3. Discou OF M. Darrells priuate directions to So. whilste he was at Not. with him pag. 9● how he should from time t● time be haue himselfe in his counterf●●ting Disco In this 2. Chapter So. chargeth me that comming to Not. vpon the 5. of Nouember the two next morninges beinge the 6 and 7. of Nouember I came vnto him and had certaine speaches with him priuatlye as touchinge the a●ling of his sitts vpon the day of his dispossession the said 7 day of Nouember and also what he shoulde doe in his remouall vpon the very motion therof from the house where he was pag. 100. to the place where the fast appoynted was held for his dispossing which last
by tareats and other wise to drawe many of those which came before him and his fellow● commissioners to depose the contrary to that I had formerly deposed that so he might make me ●atfull to the world because I was for sooth so notorious a periured person to the great greife alas of the poore soules and trouble of theire consciences the most of them not so much deposinge willingly that which they knew to be true as what the Disc against their willes would haue them to depose perswaded to be true saying I trust Darrell himselfe hath confessed it vpon his oath c. when I had deposed otherwise and that the same w●re false as my selfe doe assuredly knowe and am able and offer to make direct profe theirof by some of there depositions and of many of them could by the power of reason shew the same and would but for breuitie sake The Disc telleth vs that the reader shall reape some profit by his Discouerer if heread it with no greater mallice then it was written The profit is in stead of glorifiyng God for the greate workes he hath wrought and making that right and holy vse of his works wherof at large we haue heard elswhere to receiue an evill name false and vile report of the same and to iustifie the wicked and condemne the righteous which is an abomination before the Lord. And looke what reward is due to him that sendeth forth such cursed fruite that may the Discouerer expecte and in iustice is to receiue at the handes of the christian Magistrate for all the paynes he hath taken For doth not nature it selfe teach vs that the labourer is worthy of his hire and reason this that the hire or reward should be proportionable to the labour or paynes man taketh VVhether this corrupt and worse then rotten stuffe and whether S. H. Discouery detected now I trust to be a very sinfull shamfull slaunderous and lying treatise came from charitie as the Discouerer pretēdeth or from mallice which he denieth as it belongeth to god the searcher of the hartes to iudge so it is no hard thinge for man to coniecture For as out of the abundance of the hart the mouth speaketh so the hand writeth Howbeit peraduenture when he hath better considered the contentes of this treatise Discouerer pag 3●4 he wil not be so peremtorie Otherwis● he hath here matter sufficient to shew his skill in for the iustification of it Darrell As in these wordes the Discouerer very valiantly challengeth the Narrator so pag 58. doth he challeng me likwise saying after his scoffinge manner that I will peradventure be better prouided hereafter and that it were conveniēt also that I furnished my selfe with some better profs This chalenge considered there is smale cause why any should be offended with me for answering the Discouerie and producing the best proofes I haue for the prouinge that William Somer● the 7. in La●●cashire Thomas Darling and Katherine Wright were indeed possessed with deuils and dispossessed of them and did not counterfeit the same as is vntruly affirmed by the Discouerer some others And if it be so that here in I haue deliuered the truth as I trust it is manifest by this and my other treatise me thinketh no christian should be displeased therwith but rather reioyce in this publishing manifestation of these workes of god and remouing of the blocke that lyeth im the way hindering the Lordes people from magnifiyng of him for them and profitinge by them Can the child of God be offended with that which tendeth to the prayse and glorie of God his father or the louer of the truth with the contendinge for the truth and conviction of the falshood Haue I committed any thinge herein but that which in dewtie I did owe vnto God and could not without sinne haue left vnperformed The Prophet Ieremiah complayneth that the people in his time had no courage for the truth Ier. 9. ● Had not I bene guiltie of this sinne and had not this reprofe reached it selfe to me if base and vile man publiklye defacing the truth and workes of God I should not as publikly haue maintayned the same and shewed some courage for the truth beinge a principall witnes of these workes and called also to suffer for them If S. H. had published a slaunderous and reprochfull booke against me meerly concerning my owne person and not against the Lord also as this his Discouery concerning my teaching to counterfeit is pro. 22 1. I could haue bene contented in silence to haue passed by it and yet a good name is a pretious thinge aboue siluer and gould and such as one would be loth to lose or suffer to be taken from him but to see S. H. slaunder and bringe vp an euill name of the workes of God and spread the same farr and neare and for feare of punishment or desire of libertie or other carnall respect not to gaynsay S. H. and to iustifie the works of God against him and all gainsayers was apoynt of great cowardlines and ill beseeminge the souldier of Iesus Christ 2 Tim. 2. 3. R●n 21. 8. and indeed to feare man more then God Such fearefull ones shall haue their parte in the take which burneth with fire and brimston which is the second death The scope and drift of all that hath bene saide concerninge both the cause and my selfe is that the mouthes of all men being stopped and the worke of God beinge acknowledged The Lord may haue his glorie and prayse and man receiue his profite theirby Secondly that mine owne innocency and fellow prisonners appearinge we may not only being restored to our ministerie and people obtayne libertie for our bodyes but also for our tongues they which haue caused all this sturr in our church and vniust molestations vnto vs and in vs beinge ministers to the c●ngregations we ●el●erge and ●aysed vp this vile slaunder of the great and rare worke of God and free s●eated to vphold and maintaine it beinge on foot and theirin sought against God and his glorie and the good of his people may be inquired i●●uired after and being found out delt with as the enimies of God 〈◊〉 church and receiue theire ●u●t recompence or rewarde The ●●●dnes of 〈◊〉 cause the in●onerable in●ur●e done to vs the seruants an● 〈◊〉 of the Lord of 〈◊〉 cry a ●ou● and shir● vnto the 〈◊〉 of men 〈◊〉 meane the honorable and in ni●● place and 〈◊〉 for a ●pea●● execution theirof 〈◊〉 ●●wes and of our land and the authoritie when ●rom her most excellent Ma●estie is deriued to 〈…〉 trust mem●e and most 〈◊〉 sup●● our 〈◊〉 Gods ●s that they would ●ender the cause 〈…〉 zea●ous if euer ye Princes ●ud 〈…〉 and 〈◊〉 nor Gods cause to be th●s 〈…〉 or men● Remember and forget not thus ●aying 〈…〉 I will 〈◊〉 they 〈…〉 〈…〉 then you our 〈◊〉 and honorable per●● 〈…〉 〈◊〉 right honorable indeed be you care●ull