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A80793 The refuter refuted. Or Doctor Hammond's Ektenesteron defended, against the impertinent cavils of Mr. Henry Jeanes, minister of Gods Word at Chedzoy in Somerset-shire. By William Creed B.D. and rector of East-Codford in Wiltshire. Creed, William, 1614 or 15-1663. 1659 (1659) Wing C6875; Thomason E1009_1; ESTC R207939 554,570 699

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soul_n trouble_v say_v he_o joh._n 12._o 27._o and_o what_o shall_v i_o say_v father_n save_v i_o from_o this_o 39_o this_o vbi_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d omnino_fw-la mortis_fw-la tempus_fw-la denotat_fw-la grot._n annot._n in_o matt._n 26._o vers_fw-la 39_o hour_n but_o for_o this_o cause_n come_v i_o unto_o this_o hour_n nor_o can_v it_o here_o be_v say_v that_o any_o thing_n either_o now_o or_o in_o his_o bloody_a agony_n do_v 282._o do_v cum_fw-la autem_fw-la verba_fw-la haec_fw-la christi_fw-la &_o quae_fw-la sequuntur_fw-la uno_fw-la nexu_fw-la cohaereant_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la putandum_fw-la quicquam_fw-la illi_fw-la velut_fw-la impraemeditatum_fw-la excidisse_fw-la &_o quod_fw-la prius_fw-la dixerat_fw-la veer_fw-la &_o proprie_fw-la per_fw-la id_fw-la quod_fw-la posterius_fw-la est_fw-la emendari_fw-la cum_fw-la multo_fw-la rectius_fw-la dicatur_fw-la uno_fw-la codemque_fw-la tempore_fw-la christum_fw-la exprimere_fw-la voluisse_fw-la tum_fw-la quid_fw-la 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l._n 5._o §._o 48._o p._n 284._o observe_v have_v other_o lawful_a use_n then_o only_o to_o serve_v for_o a_o choose_a mean_n whereby_o the_o will_n resolve_v to_o seek_v that_o which_o the_o understanding_n certain_o know_v or_o be_v persuade_v it_o
omne_fw-la quod_fw-la possumus_fw-la whatsoever_o we_o be_v and_o whatsoever_o we_o be_v able_a to_o do_v yet_o this_o c._n this_o b._n white_a reply_v to_o fisher_n answer_n point_n 8._o §._o 3._o pag._n 533._o c._n doctor_n francis_n white_a in_o the_o very_a same_o treatise_n and_o paragraph_n do_v acknowledge_v and_o grant_v unto_o the_o jesuit_n that_o a_o man_n may_v offer_v unto_o god_n a_o freewill_n offer_v and_o yet_o herein_o he_o perform_v no_o more_o than_o he_o be_v oblige_v unto_o by_o the_o law_n of_o gratitude_n §_o 10._o no_o clash_n then_o here_o betwixt_o doctor_n hammond_n and_o doctor_n white_a unless_o our_o refuter_fw-la will_v make_v that_o learned_a man_n first_o to_o quarrel_n with_o himself_o who_o positive_o grant_v and_o acknowledge_v that_o truth_n which_o doctor_n hammond_n maintain_v §_o 11._o but_o then_o though_o doctor_n hammond_n be_v not_o confute_v yet_o thanks_o to_o our_o aim_n cardinal_n bellarmine_n be_v confute_v and_o confound_v for_o all_o that_o §_o 12._o and_o let_v he_o be_v so_o for_o i_o i_o owe_v he_o not_o so_o much_o service_n to_o come_v with_o a_o candle_n and_o lantern_n at_o noon_n to_o find_v his_o carcase_n at_o the_o foot_n of_o your_o divinity_n chair_n nor_o have_v i_o take_v fee_n from_o any_o of_o his_o party_n to_o be_v a_o advocate_n in_o his_o cause_n and_o i_o think_v they_o will_v but_o laugh_v at_o we_o both_o if_o i_o shall_v undertake_v to_o make_v it_o good_a let_v he_o and_o his_o party_n stand_v and_o fall_v to_o their_o own_o master_n i_o be_o sure_a they_o be_v of_o age_n at_o least_o they_o pretend_v antiquity_n enough_o and_o therefore_o let_v they_o speak_v for_o themselves_o §_o 13._o howsoever_o i_o shall_v express_v my_o present_a hasty_a thought_n of_o both_o place_n as_o well_o bellarmine_n as_o ames_n that_o to_o i_o they_o seem_v not_o to_o be_v so_o opposite_a as_o our_o refuter_fw-la will_v make_v his_o reader_n believe_v and_o that_o the_o difference_n between_o they_o be_v rather_o in_o the_o expression_n than_o the_o thing_n itself_o and_o i_o believe_v that_o bellarmine_n will_v not_o refuse_v to_o subscribe_v ames_n his_o retort_n and_o yet_o for_o all_o that_o ames_n will_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o 109._o that_o any_o man_n all_o man_n be_v bind_v to_o aspire_v to_o the_o perfection_n of_o holiness_n not_o the_o perfection_n of_o martyrdom_n cawdreys_n triplex_n diatribe_n pag._n 109._o bellarmine_n speak_v truth_n when_o he_o say_v all_o man_n be_v not_o bind_v to_o love_n god_n so_o as_o to_o be_v martyr_n or_o virgin_n or_o what_o other_o else_o he_o call_v state_n or_o act_n of_o perfection_n and_o yet_o this_o be_v all_o that_o bellarmine_n seem_v to_o i_o at_o least_o to_o drive_v at_o and_o if_o it_o be_v worth_a the_o enquiry_n i_o shall_v be_v content_a to_o be_v teach_v this_o so_o wonderful_a deep_a point_n as_o the_o understanding_n a_o piece_n in_o bellarmine_n but_o the_o reader_n if_o he_o please_v may_v turn_v to_o bellarmine_n de_fw-fr monachis_fw-la l._n 1._o c._n 13._o col._n mihi_fw-la 350._o d._n e._n 351._o a._n amesii_n bellarmin_n enervat_fw-la tom_n 2._o lib._n 4._o c._n 2_o §_o 42._o pa._n 161._o §_o 14._o but_o let_v ames_n his_o reply_n be_v as_o round_o and_o acute_a as_o our_o refuter_fw-la think_v fit_a i_o shall_v be_v so_o far_o from_o envy_v that_o commendation_n the_o author_n do_v deserve_v in_o his_o pain_n against_o bellarmine_n that_o i_o love_v and_o use_v to_o read_v he_o for_o it_o §_o 15._o but_o what_o i_o pray_v be_v all_o this_o to_o doctor_n hammond_n be_v bellarmine_n ghost_n by_o any_o pythagorean_n metempsychosis_n transfuse_v into_o the_o doctor_n or_o have_v the_o doctor_n wed_v or_o embrace_v this_o say_n of_o bellarmine_n that_o ames_n confute_v how_o then_o be_v he_o concern_v §_o 16._o without_o doubt_n very_o much_o for_o the_o vulgar_a reader_n can_v choose_v but_o think_v the_o doctor_n opinion_n to_o be_v popish_o affect_v because_o our_o refuter_fw-la in_o his_o 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