AN APOLOGIE FOR THE RELIGION established in the Church of England BEING AN ANSWER TO T. W. HIS 12. Articles of the last edition In this impres sion recognized and much inlarged Also Answers to three other writings of three seuerall Papists By ED BVLKLEY Doctor of Diuinitie Prouerb 14. 15. The foolish will beleeue euery thing but the prudent will consider his wayes Lamenta 3. 40 Let vs search and trie our wayes and turne againe vnto the Lord. Chrysost in Genes 〈◊〉 â— Quocirca diuinae Scripturae vestigia sequamur neque â—â—ramus eos qui temerâ— quiduis blaterant i. Let vs follow the steps of the holy Scripture and not endure or abide them that rashly babble euery-thing AT LONDON Printed by George Eld for Arthur Iohnson and are to be sold at his shop at the signe of the white Horse ouer-against the great North doore of S. Paules Church 1608. TO THE RIGHT HONORABLE SIR THOMAS EGERTON KNIGHT LORD Keeper of the great Seale of England Chamberlaine of the Countie Palatine of Chester and one of his Maiesties most honourable priuie Councell grace and peace be multiplied WHen I consider right Honourable the estate of England in these our dayes I cannot better compare it then with the estate of the kingdome of Iudah vnder K. Iosias expressed shortly yet effectually by Sophonie the Prophet who liued preached in that time For as then God gaue to that people that worthy godly King who zealously 2. King 25. rooted out Idolatrie and planted Gods true worship agreeable to his law so God in great mercy hath giuen vs our most gratious Queene Elizabeth by whose godly meanes Idolatrie hath beene abolished Gods true religion and seruice restored his holy word truly and sincerely preached and peace and tranquilitie among vs long maintained And as in those daies vnder King Iosias notwithstanding that godly and zealous reformation there was great wickednes among the people as the said Sophonias sheweth For there were then which worshipped Sopho. 1. 5. vpon the rouffes of their houses the host of heauen and which worshipped and sware by the true and onely God Iehoua and by Malchaâ— their Idoll and 6. such as were turned backe from after the true God and sought him not nor inquired after him and 8. that did weare strange apparell and others that filled their maisters houses with robbery and deceit 9. and such as were frozen in their dregges and said in 12. their hearts the Lord will neither doe good nor euill And Ierusalem was then a filthie and spoyling Chap. 3. 1. 2. citie which heard not Gods voyce receiued not instruction trusted not in the Lord and drew not neere vnto her God c. Euen so how these sinnes abound at this time in this land I thinke there are but few but doe see and none that truely feareth God but doth lament To omit other sinnes here mentioned as then there were which worshipped Iehoua the onely true God and Malcham their Idoll euen so there be now not a few which to please the Prince and State pretend outwardly to like of religion established and yet inwardly in their hearts fauour Idolatrie and wicked worshippings repugnant to the same And as then many were turned backe from after God and sought him not nor inquired after him euen so now there are many which be reuolted from Gods holy worship agreeable to his word and vtterly forsake the holy assemblies where Gods word is truly preached the Sacraments are according to Christs institution rightly ministred and Gods holy name faithfully called vpon These with Lots wife looke backe vnto Genes 19. Numb 14. Sodome and are with the Israelites in heart turned back into Egypt desiring rather to eate onions and garlike there then to feed vpon the heauenly Manna of Gods blessed word Of these thus turned backe from seeking after God they be most dangerous which being deceiued themselues endeuour by all meanes both by speaking and writing to seduce and deceiue others Such be the Seminarie Priests and Iesuites who although they be at this present time at leastwise in outward apparance at deadly fewd among themselues writing most bittely one against another yet they all agree in resisting Gods truth seducing the simple and in labouring most earnestly to set vp againe their Dagon of the Masse fallen downe before the Arke of Christs Gospell To this end they write lewd lying and slanderous Pamphlets wherein they traduce the truth and faithfull fauourers thereof deceiue the ignorant and confirme in error their ouer affectioned fauorers who without triall or examination ouer rashly receiue and ouer lightly beleeue whatsoeuer is broached by them Of these lying Libels there came one to my hands a yeere past and more pretended to be printed at Antwerpe 1600. wherein is boldly affirmed but faintly proued that we haue no faith nor religion that of vs both the learned and ignorant of the Greeke and Latine tongues be Infidels that wee know not what wee beleeue that we are bound in conscience both neuer to aske forgiuenesse of our sinnes and also to auoide all good workes that we make God the author of sinne and worse then the diuell These and such other shameles assertions and false slanders when I read it came into my heart that Master Thomas Wright with whose spirit I had beene acquainted was the venter of this ware In which opinion I was afterward confirmed for that both some of his fauourers could not denie it and in a written copie therof taken in a search in Shropshire and sent vnto me these two letters T. W. were set in the end of it This lewd Libell although in respect of the matter voide both of truth and learning deserued rather to be despised then earnestly answered yet because the author of it thinketh so highly of himself and so basely and contemptuously of vs giuing out in certaine written conferences which he hath dispersed abroad in this land and some faithfull men haue seene that wee be vnlearned and so giuen to wordly affaires that we bestow no time or but little in studie I although the meanest and vnmeetest of many was moued to wtite this answere thereby to confute these calumnies to cleere the truth to confirme the faithfull and if by Gods gracious blessing it might be to reclaime and reforme the ignorant and seduced Whereof I haue the lesse hope for that as they imitate those wicked Israelits which refused to hearkeÌ„ turned away their shoulder stopped their Zach. 7. 11. eares that they might not heare made their hearts as an Adamant stone least they should heare the law the words which the Lord of hosts sent in his spirit by his Prophets So they doe fully follow the peruerse Pagans which most obstinately refused to read godly bookes written by Christians as that ancient eloquent Christian Lactantius in these eloquent words declareth Non est apud me dubium Constantine Imperator Lactant. lib. 5. cap. 1.
infidelity But S. Paul doth exhort vs to doubt of our saluatioÌ„ which we are bound to beleeue by faith according to the Protestants religion ergo S. Paul exhorteth vs to infidelity The Maior is plaine for to doubt of matters in faith is manifest infidelity because whosoeuer doubteth whether God hath reuealed that which indeed be hath reuealed being sufficiently proposed as reuealed vertually doubteth whether God saith truth or lieth The Minor is proued by the testimonie of S. Paul Cum timore tremore salutem vestram operamini with feare and trembling worke your saluation All feare whether it be filiall feare or seruile feare inculdeth doubt the one of sinne the other of punishment Answere AS it is false that wee neither know what wee beleeue nor why wee beleeue as hath beene before sufficientlie shewed so is it no lesse false which is here boldlie affirmed but faintly prooued That wee haue no meanes in our Church to settle vs in vnitie of beleefe to determine controuersies and to abolish Heresies Wee haue the word of GOD which we acknowledge to be the onely touchstone of truth concerning religion and saluation We haue learned and Godly Bishops and Pastors to teach the truth of Gods word to confute both by preaching and writing errors and heresies And we haue Synodes although not generall yet prouinciall wherein controuersies may be decided and Heresies condemned as heretofore the truth hath beene maintained and Heresies confuted and confounded in some prouinciall Councels as that called Gangrense and some other Africane Councels as wel as they haue beene in some generall I would faine know of you what other and better meanes the Church of God had for the space of three hundred yeeres after Christs incarnation then these to determine controuersies and abolish Heresies Generall Councels they had not before Constantines time which Pigh 6. de eccle Hierarch cap. â— Bellarm. tom 1 contro 4. lib. 2 cap. 13. Aeâ—cas Siluius epist 28. pag. 802. therefore your fellow Papist Pighius counteth to haue beene an inuention of his but your great Rabbin Rob. Bellarmine therein controlleth him and saith it is false So well these men bee setled in vnitie of beleefe And to your great Maister of Rome whom you now would make the Oracle of the world there was before that time but small respect and regard had as your own Pope Pius 2. in these words confesseth Ante Concilium Nicenum sibi quisque viuebat ad Romanam Ecclesiam paruus habebatur respectus i. Before the Councel of Nice euery one liued to himselfe and there was small regard had to the Church of Rome Shew vs therefore what meanes the Churches of God then had for maintenance of vnity of faith which we want You say that Christ willed vs to heare his Church if we Matth. 18. 17. Bellar. contro 1. lib. 3. cap. 5 would not be accounted for Ethnicks and Publicanes The which place your said Rob. Bellarmine Reader full wisely alleageth to proue the Pope and his Councel to be the supreme Iudge of controuersies As though our Sauiour Christ there spake of deciding of controuersies in doctrine or of expounding the Scriptures or by the Church meant the Pope and his councell and that euery man against whom his brother trespasseth must goe to the Pope and his councell to make his complaint These bee vanities and follies which nullo impellente ruunt and neede no confutation You further alleage out of Ioh. 14. 17. that Christ promised vnto the church the assistance of the holy Ghost where by the church you meane the Pope and his councell as your Maister Bellarmine hath taught you who writeth thus Sed hic in genere dicimus iudiceÌ„ veri sensus Idem ibid. ca. â— Scripturae omnium controuersiarum esse ecclesiam id est Pontificem cum concilio in quo omnes Catholici conueniunt Wee generally say that the church is the iudge of the true sense of the Scripture and of all controuersies that is to say The Pope with the councell wherein all Catholikes doe assemble or rather dissemble together But our Sauiour Christ made this promise to his disciples saying I will pray the Father and hee shall giue you another Ioh 14 16 17 comforter that hee may abide with you for euer euen the spirit of truth whome the world cannot receiue because it seeth him not neither knoweth him but ye know him for he dwelleth with you and shall be in you This promise pertaineth not to all the successors of the Apostles but to all them that truly feare God and beleeue and obey the holy doctrine which Christ deliuered to his Disciples and which they preached the which when you shall soundly proue that your Popes councels do then we will grant that this promise of Christ belongeth to them In the meane time wee will follow Chrysostomes good counsell Si videris aliquem Euangelica Chrysost Hom. dâ— Sâ—ncâ—o adorando spiritu repetentem profecto spiritum sanctum habet Veniet enim spiritus sanctus vt recordari vos faciat eorum quae docui Si quis igitur eorum qui dicuntur habere spiritum sanctum dicat aliquid à seipso non ex Euangelijs non credité meam doctrinam sequimini If thou see any man speaking out of the Gospell surely he hath the holy Ghost For the holy Ghost shal come to put you in remembrance of those things which I haue taught you If therefore any of them which are said to haue the holy Ghost doe speake any thing of himselfe not out of the Gospell beleeue him not but follow my doctrine Whereas you say that you beleeue certainely that the church cannot erre that the generall councels cannot deliuer false doctrine c. I answere that you foolishly begge that which is in question For as wee acknowledge councels assembled of Godlie learned and modest men which simply seeke the glorie of God and the profit of his Church are good meanes to suppresse errors and heresies and to abolish abuses and enormities so to affirme that generall Councells cannot erre or deliuer false doctrine is most false absurd as by many both reasons and examples might bee proued But for shortnes sake I will touch but a few examples The councell of foure hundred Priests of Israel erred and Satan was a false spirit in the â—outh of them all to the 1. King 22. 6. 8 22. Matth 26. 3. 65. 66. Act. 4. 5. 18. destruction of Achab that cursed king of Israel The councell of the Priests of Iuda erred in coÌ„demning Iesus Christ to death The councell of the high Priest and other Priests Rulers Elders and Scribes erred in forbidding Christs disciples to speake or teach in the name of Iesus The councel of Neocaesarea erred in iudging hardly falsly of second marriages which Gods word alloweth Rom Concil Neoca sar Can. 7. 7. 3. 1. Cor. 7. 39. the words of the councell be these
Maxime quin hoc opus nostrum quo singularis ille reruÌ„ conditor huius immensi operis rector asseritur si quis attigerit ex istis inepte religiosis vt sunt nimia superstitione impatientes insectetur etiam maledictis vt vix lecto fortasse principio affligat proijciat execretur seque inexpiabili scelere contaminari atque astringi putet si haec aut legat patienter aut audiat One Bee or egge is not liker to another then to these Pagans be our peeuish Papists in shutting their eies from reading godly and learned bookes tending to the confutation of their errors the instruction of them in the truth Whom yet I am to intreate with Lactantius words immediatly following Ab hoc tamen si Idem ibidem fieri potest humanitatis iure postulamus vt noÌ„ prius daÌ„net quam vniuersa cognouerit Nam si sacrilegis proditoribus veneficis potestas defendendi sui datur nec praedamnari quenquam incognita causa licet non iniustè petere videmur vt si quis erit ille qui inciderit in haec si leget perlegat si audiet sententiam differat in extremuÌ„ This reasonable request I would that I might obtaine at our Romish Catholickes hands that they would first read and examine this my answere before they condemne it For what is more vniust then to condemne that which a maÌ„ doth not know Howbeit I doubt least with the same Lanctantius I must say Sed noui hominum pertinaciam nunquam â—bidem impetrabimus Timent enim ne à nobis reuicti manus dare aliquando clamante ipsa veritate cogantur Obstrepunt igitur intercedunt ne audiant oculos suos opprimunt ne lumen videant quod offerimus Euen so our vntruly termed Catholickes doe follow this froward peruersitie of the Pagans in whom that saying also of the Prophet as it is alleaged by Saint Luke is verified The heart of this people is waxed Act. 28. 27. grosse or fat and their eares are dull of hearing and they haue shut their eyes least they should see with their eyes and heare with their eares and vnderstand with their hearts and should be conuerted and I might heale them The which is a fearefull iudgement of God when men refusing the loue of the truth that they might be saued be giuen vp to a 2. Thess 2. strong delusion to beleeue lyes But if these blinded with errour and ignorance for whose sake especially I haue written this answere will not vouchsafe to read it nor make any vse and profit of it yet if it may some what serue to edifie the faithfull and confirme the weake I shall thinke my labour not altogether lost The which how small or simple soeuer it be yet as I haue written it for the good of Gods Church so I haue bin by your Honours curtesie incouraged to offer and present it vnto your Lordship as a true testimony of my louing heart and dutiful affection towards your Honour for your fauour shewed me The God of all grace and mercy blesse your Lordship and all yours increase his good graces and gifts in you and long preserue you to the benefit of this Church and Common-wealth Amen Your Honors most humble to be commanded EDVVARD BVLELEY To the Christian Reader GOod Christian Reader whereas the author of these reasons vpon his good conceit of the forciblenesse of them to perswade to Popery hath thought them worthy of a second impression and a new augmentation I am partly thereby and partly by the request of the Printer and others moued to publish againe in Print my answer to them The which I haue recognised and in many places enlarged by adding not onely moe testimonies but also some discourses I haue also in the end adioyned answers to some friuolous cauillations which S. R. in his answer to Maister Bels downe-fall of Poperie and others haue made against it And hereof I must certifie thee good Reader that I haue inserted into the said reasons the Authors new additions the which that thou maist discerne from the other I haue put this marke vnto them the same marke also I haue put to my answers made to the same I haue also in this impression added an answer to certaine Popish questions written fifteene or sixteene yeares past the which although it was long agoe allowed to be published yet it hath vntill now lien by me howbeit now for the reasons in the Preface before it declared I haue thought good to ioyne it vnto this Now although this my answer will bring no profit to them that being wedded to will and bewitched by a strong delusion will not vouchsafe to looke vpon it much lesse will wholy read compare and examine it but will condemne it before they know it yet if it may serue to the defence of Gods truth and to the confirming of thee good Reader in the same as I shall therein obtaine that I doe seeke so my desire is that thou wilt remember mee at the throne of grace in thy faithfull prayers The Father of all mercy giue vs true vnderstanding in all things and guide vs by the light of his holy word outwardly and by his blessed spirit inwardly to beleeue his truth and obey his will to his owne glory and our eternall comfort Amen Aprill 22. 1608. Thine in Christ Iesus ED BVLKELEY AN ANSWER TO AN VNLEARNED SLANDEROVS AND LYING PAMPHLET INTITVLED Certaine articles or forcible reasons discouering the palpable absurdities and most notorious errors of the Protestants Religion pretended to be Printed at Antwerpe 1600. TO the sayings of the Prophet Esaias chap. 59. 10. and Elizeus 4. King 6. 20. set in the first front of this peeuish Pamphlet whereby he would insinuate and signifie vs to be blind I answere that if we be blind which giue our selues daily and diligently both pastors and people to the reading and hearing of Gods holy word and doe endeuour to make that a light vnto our Psal 119. 105 feete and a lanterne vnto our pathes in what estate be they which keepe the light of Gods word vnder the bushell of a strange tongue and read the same both little them-selues and disswade and with-draw others from it Aeneas Syluius who was Pope called Pius Secundus writeth thus of the Italian Priests in his dayes and of the good people in Bohemia Pudeat Italiae Sacerdotes quos ne semel quidem Commenta de dictis sactis Alphonsi Reg. lib. 2. 17. nouam legem constat legisse apud Thaboritas vix mulierculam inuenias quae de Nouo Testamento veteri respondere nesciat i. The priests of Italie may bee ashamed who are knowne not once to haue read the new Testament seeing with the Thaborites one can hardly finde a silly woman which cannot answer out of the old and new Testament Iohn Gerson Chancellor of the Vniuersitie of Paris who liued Anno 1415. and was a great dealer
man 2. Thess 23. 4. of sinne and sonne of perdition an aduersary that exalteth him-selfe against or aboue all that is called God or that is worshipped sitting as God in the temple of God shewing him-selfe that he is God of whom S. Paul before prophecied in taking these things vnto himselfe which Gods spirit spake properly and peculiarly of Iesus Christ The place of Saint Peter 1. chap. 4. Loue or charity couereth the multitude of sinnes they expound in this sence that charity maketh sattisfaction for our sinnes and couereth and hideth our sinnes before God Iohn Fisher the Bishop Assert Luthe◠〈◊〉 cap 17. of Rochester writeth hereof thus Tertius modus est per vehementis charitatis affectum Nam vehemens vtique charitatis affectus peccatorum etiam expurgat reliquias quum dicat diuus Petrus Charitas operit multitudinem peccatorum i. The third meanes to purge away sinne is by the affection of vehement charity for surely the vehement affection of charity doth also purge out the remnants of sinnes for S. Peter saith Charitie hideth the multitude of sinnes That this is a priuat and false exposition a simple and meane man may see especially if he looke vpon the place in the Prouerbs chap. 10. 12. from the which Saint Peter doth alleage it and is commonly quoted in the margent Hatred stirreth vp contention but loue or charity couereth all trespasses Where Salomon sheweth that as enuy and hatred moueth men to contention and to blow abroad the faults of their bretheren to their infamie so loue and charitie should moue vs to couer and hide their faults and infirmities and rather seeke to amend them then to defame them and therefore these words are not ment of satisfying for out sinnes or couering them before God but of the â—â— Prouerb 10 couering of them before men And so doth D. Baine Bishop of Lichfield in Queene Maries daies expound them What should I shew how priuatly or rather falsly they expound the places of Gen. 14. 18. touching Melchisedeck bringing forth bread and wine and that of Malachy 1. 11. of the incense and pure offering which in euery place shall bee offered to GOD by which they seeke to maintine their Masse and the false forged sacrifice thereof I would haue passed these places ouer in silence but that D. Harding doth so hardly handle vs and so grieuously charge vs for them in these words The Scripture it selfe ministring euident proofe for the oblation of Christ to his father by the Priests of the new Testament in the institution of this holie Sacrament in the figure of Melchisedeck and in the prophesie of Malachy the Prophet the authorities of the Fathers needed not to be alleaged were not the same Scriptures by the ouertwhart and false interpretations of our aduersaries wrested and turned to a contrarie sense to the hereticall seducing of the vnlearned In his answere artic 17. These be Maister D. Hardings modest words Let it therefore be examined and tried who they bee that thus ouertwhart these places and turne them to a contrary sense As touching the first place out of Genesis they expound it that Melchisedeck offered bread and wine for hee was the Priest of the most high God and that was a tipe and figure of the sacrifice of the new Testament wherein Christ is offered vnto his father vnder the forme of bread and wine Pighius Controuers 5. Hosius Confess Petriconiensi cap. 41. Who saith that this is the opinion of all the holy Doctors of the Church that this bread and wine was offered for a sacrifice to God and not for a refection to Abraham But this both exposition and assertion is false for both Turtullian Contra Iudaeos and also Epiphanius Haeres 55. expound it Epiph. Hâ—ref 55. of his bringing forth of bread and wine to Abraham Epiphanius saith Abraham suit 88. aut 90. plus minos tunc Meâ—chisedec ipsi obuiam venit proposuit ipsi panem vinum i. Abraham was about 88. or 90. yeares old when Melchesedeck met him and brought forth bread and wine Ioseph antiq lib. 1. cap. 11. vnto him So doth Iosephus expound it Melchisedec milites Abrahamiâ—h spitaliter habuit nihil illis ad victum deesse passus simul ipsum adhibuit mensae Melchisedech vsed hospitalitie to Abrahams souldiers and suffered them to want no victualles and did take Abraham to his Table That this is the true sense it appeareth by the Hebrew word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which doth neuer signifie to offer and sacrifice but to bring forth and the force of truth forceth some of Caiet in Gen. cap. 14. their owne side to confesse this to be true Cardinal Caietanus vpon this place writeth thus Nihil scribitur hic de sacrificio seu oblatione sed de prolatione seu extractione quam Iosephus dicit factam ad refectionem victorum Quod autem in vulgata editione subditur vt causa oblationis erat enim sacerdos deâ— altissimi in Hebraeo non habetur vt causa sed vt separata clausula that is There is nothing here sayd of sacrifice or oblation but of bringing forth which Iosephus saith was done to the refection of them which had gotten the victorie And that which in the vulgar edition is put after as a cause for he was the priest of the most high God in the Hebrew is not set as a cause but as a clause seperated from it Andradius also the Iesuit doth herein forsake his friends and acknowledgeth this to bee the true exposition his words be these De offerendi autem vocabula non est Kemnici Andrad defensfidei Trident. lib. 4. quod digladeremur cum in correctioribus latinis examplaribus sanctis patribus qui locum hunc Eucharistiae accommodant extet proferens at que ego cum illis sen iam qui lassos Abrahae milites diuturna pugna fractos Melchisedecum pane vinoque refecisse aiunt that is We need not Kemnicius to striue aboutthe word of offering seeing that both in the best corrected Latine coppies and also in the holy Fathers which apply this place to the Eucharist it is proferens brought forth and I in iudgement agree with them which say that Melchisedech refreshed Abrahams souldiers wearied fainted with long fight Their exposition of the other place of Malachie is as absurd in applying it to the sacrifice of the Masse which is neither a pure sacrifice nor is offered in all places And the Fathers Tertullian Hierome and others expound it of the spiritual sacrifices of the faithfull which they offer in all places to God Tertullian in three places doth so expound it whereof I will set Lib. aduers iudaeos lib. 3. adâ—ers Marcionem lib. 4 downe but one Et in omni loco sacrificium nomini meo offeretur sacrificium mundum scilicet simplex oratio de conscientia pura and in euery place a sacrifice shall bee offered to my name
vnitate ecclesie Adulterari non potest sponsa Christi incorrupta est puaica vnam domum nouit vnius cubiculi sanctitatem casto pudore custodit Haec nos Deo seruat haec filios regno quos generauit assignat The spouse cannot bee defiled shee is vncorrupt and chast shee knoweth one house and keepeth with chast shamefastnesse the holinesse of one chamber she keepeth vs to God she assigneth the children whome shee hath borne vnto this kingdome Saint Hierome saith Ipsa Hieron in Iob cap. 28. ecclesiae quae est Sanctorum omnium congregatio pro aeterna sibi in Domino stabilitate columna fundamentum dicitur veritatis The Church which is the congregation of all Saints by reason of her eternall stedfastnes in God is called Chrysost in Ps Hom. 114. the pillar and ground of truth Chrysostome saith Ecclesia est tabernaculum à Deo fixum non ab homine ab vno lcco in alium fugit sed non à pietate ad impietatem fugit The Church is the tabernacle which God hath pight and not man shee flieth from one place to another but she neuer flieth from Ambros in Ephes cap. 1 Godlines to impietie and wickednes Ambrose Apostolus omnem ecclesiam dicens summatim totum comprehendit quod in coelo est in terra The Apostle meaning all the Church briefly comprehendeth the whole which is both in heauen Bern. in Cant. serm 78. Clem Alexand. Strom. lib. 7. pag. 35. Bedain Cant. 6. and in earth Ternaâ—d saith Electi Dei sunt ecclesia Dei The elect of God be the Church of GOD. So saith Clemens Alexandrinus Non nunc locum sed electorum congregationem appello ecclesiam I call not now the place the Church but the congregation of the elect So saith Beda vna est columba perfecta mea vna est inquit catholica elâ—ctorum omnium multitudo peromnia et mundi Loca et tempora seculorum deo patri subiecta 1. my perfect doue is one hee saith that there is one Catholike multitude of all the elect by all both places of the world and ages of times subiect to God the father Yea Friar Lyra saith Lyra in Mat. 16. Ex quo patet quod ecclesia non consistat in hominibus ratione potestatis vell dignitatis ecclesiasticae vel secularis quia multi principaes summi pontifices alii inferiores inuenti sunt apostatasse à fide propter quod ecclesia consistit in illis personis in quibus est notitia vera et confessio fidei et veritatis Whereby it appeareth that the Church consisteth not in men in respect of their ecclesiasticall or secular power or dignitie for many Princes and Popes and others of lower Popes Apostates degree haue bene found to haue bene Apostates and to haue fallen away from the faith Wherefore the Church consisteth in those persons in whome is true knowledge and the confession of faith and truth So saith the Fryar Alphonsus de castro Ecclesia ex omnibus fidelibus constat Aduers Hares lib. 1. cap. 5. fol. 11. non solum presentibus verumetiam preteritis et in posterum futuris 1. The Church consisteth of al the faithful not onely them that bee now present but also heretofore haue bene and hereafter shall be This is that holy Catholike Church which wee in the Creed confesse and beleeue euen the whole number of them whom God hath elected and chosen to eternall life whom God hath had in all ages and of all nations Of which Church euery true and faithfull man and woman must beleeue him-selfe to bee a true and liuely member whereof hee may bee assured if hee finde and feele that GOD hath lightened his minde with the knowledge of his truth hath wrought in his heart an vnfained faith to trust in his mercies and to beleeue that his sinnes be forgiuen him for Christes names sake and that God hath sanctified his soule and body to hate sinne and to haue a care and conscience to serue him in true holines righteousnes all the eaies of his life This being our confession and bâ— liefe with what conscience truth can this man say that the Church which the Protestants beleeue hath been interrupted al the ages betwixt the Apostles and Luther and in very deed was neuer seene before Luthers daies or that we imagine the same to bee comprehended within the narrow bounds of England I can say no more but that a false witnes shall Prouerbe 19. 5. not be vnpunished and he that speaketh lyes shall not escape But now lette vs see what this man and his fellowes hold beleeue and call the Catholike Church forsooth the companie of all them that receiue and professe the religion and doctrine of the Church of Rome submit themselues to be ruled and gouerned by the Bishop Pope of Rome They that do not this be Heretikes Schismatikes out of Noahs Arke and out of the Catholike Church And herevpon it followeth that the Christians in Graecia Muscouia Armenia Ethiopia c. where Christianitie hath continued vnto this day and among whom no doubt but some haue been of Gods elect and chosen people yet bee they no Catholikes nor of the Catholike Church nor in the state of saluation and why because they neither haue been nor be subiect to the Pope of Rome For so it is with many words sollemnely defined determined by that holy Pope Bonniface the 8. Subesse Roman opontifici omni humanae creaeturae Extra de maior obedien unaÌ„ sanctam declaramus dicimus definimus pronuntiamus omnino esse de necessitate salutis that is We declare say define and pronounce that it is altogither of necessitie of saluation to be subiect to the Pope of Rome Where the Glosse helpeth out the matter with these wordes Quicquid saluatur est sub Gloss ibidem summo ponitfice Whatsoeuer is saued is vnder the Pope And on the other side All they that professe the religion of Rome and submit them-selues to the Bishop thereof bee Catholikes and of the Catholike Church how prophane wicked or vngodly soeuer they be Pope Iohn the 8. the whore Iohn the 12. or as some reckon him the 13. who was an adulterer and of two Cardinals did cut out the tongue of the one the hand of the other and at dice-play would call vppon the Diuell and made the Pallace of Laterane a stewes of strumpets as Luithprand lib. 6. cap. 7. Luithprandus Ticinensis writeth Syluester the second a coniurer who gaue himselfe to the Diuell to be made Pope Gregorie the 7. a coniurer and monster Bonniface the 7. Platina in Syluest 2. who robbed Saint Peters Church and put out the eyes of Iohn a Cardinal Bonniface the 8. who entred into his Popedome like a foxe raigned like a wolfe and died like a dog Jdem Alexander the sixt Iulius the second and al they whome
Presbyterum conuiuio secundarum nuptiarum interesse non debere maxime cum paecipiatur secundis nuptiis poenitentiam tribuere A priest ought not to be present at the feast of second marriages specially because he is commanded to appoint Distiâ—st cap. 20 de libellis penance to second mariages This councell although it were prouinciall was confirmed by Pope Leo the fourth as appeareth by Gratian and the Papists hold that prouinciall Sozom. lib. 4. cap. 17. councels confirmed by the Pope cannot erre The councel of Ariminum wherin were assembled aboue foure hundred Bishoppes horribly erred in maintaining the blasphemous doctrine of Arius The like did the Councels of Millaine Seleucia and of Tyrus The second Councell of Ephesus erred and maintained the false doctrine of Eutycheâ— These councels the Papists confesse to haue erred and why because they were not allowed and confirmed by the Bishoppe of Rome A simple and shamelesse shift as though the Bishop of Rome had in those daies power either to call or confirme Councels any more then the other Patriarks had In that second Councell of Nice most vnlike vnto the first not onely the wicked worshipping of Images was allowed and the Scriptures for the confirmation therof most shamefully abused and detorted as appeareth by the said corrupt councell and Caluin and Caluin Instit lib. 1. cap. 11. Sec. 14. Mart. Ciâ—mni exam Concil Tridet part 4. de imagine Action 5. Mart. Chemnicius haue largely shewed but also in the same was decreed that the Angels haue bodies and that the soule of man is corporall and therefore they may bee painted the which be soule errors If you will not allow the worshipping of Images to be an errour then you cannot say but that the Councell of Constantinople vnder Leo the Emperour where were present 338. Bishops and another of Frankford vnder Charles the Great in which the worshipping of Images was condemned did erre Some of these Councels erred To omit for breuitie sake Platiâ—a in Stepha 6. many other Councells a Councell at Rome vnder Stephanus the sixth or as some reckon seuenth condemned Pope Formosus and his doings Another Councell at Rauenna vnder Pope Iohn the tenth restored Formosus and Platina in â—oan 10. condemned Stephen and the actes of his Councell I hope you will not or cannot say but that one of these Councels erred Another Councell at Rome vnder Pope Nicholas the second caused that excellent learned and godly De coÌ„se Inst 2. Ego Bereng Sâ—ss 13 man Berengarius to recant and to confesse that the very true body of Christ is indeed handled and broken by the Priests hands and torne wtth the teeth of faithfull people The which is a grosse false and blasphemous doctrine The Councell of Constance erred most wickedly in taking away the cuppe of the Lord from the lay people contrary to the word of God and the testimonie of all antiquitie And that their last Councell of Trident hath fouly erred and confirmed false doctrine repugnant to the truth of Gods word and the Canons of ancient Councells both these excellent learned men Martinus Chennicius Innocentius Gentilletus haue shee l and wee doe and will proue to the consciences of all those whom the God of this world hath not blinded I am not ignorant what coullors the Iesuite Bellarmine seeketh to cast vppon the foresaid errours of these Councels and such others and what simple shifts he seeketh to elude auoid them the which I wil not stand here to answer but I will referre the reader to the answers of Lamb. Danaeus and to that excellent man of blessed memory D. Wbitakers where hee may find the weakenesse and nakednesse of Bellarmines said shifts plainly discouered and the same fully confuted the which I thnke will stand as other of his workes haue done long vndefended Whereas you note in your margent the ancient Councels of Nice Constantinople Ephesus and Chalcedon wherin old heretikes were confuted and condemned and thereby claime them to appertaine to your Church I answer that as it is most certaine that those Councels were not called nor gouerned and directed by the Bishops of Rome as now by vsurpation they are so you shall neuer proue that those Godly and learned fathers agreed with you in many great and principall points of Christian doctrine It were easie to shew that sundry things were condemned by them which be receiued and vsed by you And therefore you vainly brag of their names whose doctrine and proceedings you haue forsaken neither haue you so much by disputation in Councels as by cruel persecution through fire and fagot suppressed such as in all ages haue complained of your idolatry and abominations as plainely appeareth by histories As it is true that we admit the holy Scripture or rather the holy Ghost speaking in the scripture to bee the supreme vmpier and Iudge in matters of controuersies and acknowledge him to be the onely infallible interpreter of his own words so is it false that we admit no other iudge but remit all to euery mans priuate spirit and singular exposition We say that as the holy Ghost in the Scriptures is the high infallible iudge and interpreter of the Scriptures so we acknowledge inferiour Iudges and interpreters both priuate and publike Euery man is a priuate iudge to discerne and iudge of the doctrine which he heareth or readeth in the Scriptures So Saint Paul saith I 1. Cor 10. 15. 1. Ioâ— 4. 1. Ibid. 14. 29. 1. Thess 5. 20. speake as vnto wise men iudge ye what I say Let the Prophets speake two or three and let the other Iudge Despise not prophecying Try al things keep that which is good Abstain froÌ„ al apperance of euill Beloued beleeu not euery spirit but try the spirits whether they are of God The spirituall man iudgeth all 1. Cor. 2. 15. Heb. 5. 14 Iohn 10. 5. things Good Christians ought to haue their wits excersised to discerne both good and euill The true sheepe of Christ heare and know his voycâ— and they will not follow a stranger but they flye from him for they know not the voyce of strangers whereby our Sauiour christ sheweth that those which bee his sheepe and bee truly gathered into his fold can iudge and discerne betweene his voye sounding in the Scriptures and the voyce of strangers deliuering a strange doctrine differing and dissenting from the same such is the false doctrine of the Church of Rome Wee also admit publike iudges of controuersies both seuerally as learned Bishops Pastors and Doctors who may giue their sentences and iudgements in matters in question and coniunctly when they bee assembled in Synodes and Councels to examine questions of greater difficultie and to decide the same Howbeit their iudgements be not infallible Psal 11 6. for all men be lyars and subiect to ignorance and errour neither haue they any absolute power and authoritie to iudge after their owne spirit or mind but according to
1. subcribe vnto and approue that which hereof both Bishoppe Iewell did write heretofore and Doctor Abbot of late in his answer to D. Bishoppes Epistle 55. 4. Page 33. and 55. 18. Page 142. c. to whose learned writings by publike authoritie published I doe for shortnes sake referre the reader Of your fifth matter I haue intreated sufficiently before and it hath bene deliuered by Doctor Fulke others with approbation of publike authoritie If any singular person hold any singular opinion dissenting from the same it ought not to praeiudice the doctrine generally receiued and approued in the Church Yea this doctrine is not disliked by your Angelicall doctor Thomas de Aquino as you may read Sum. part 3. Quest 46. The same I say of your sixth concerning Christs discending into hell in the expositioÌ„ whereof if there be some diuersity among vs there is the like in the followers and fauourers of the Church of Rome as I haue shewed before of Durandus picus Mirandula to whome may bee added the aforesaid Ibid. quest 52. Thomas Aquinas Concerning the seuenth doctrine which you obiect I doe neither know nor you by any proofe do shew any difference to be among vs. We al do accknowledge and beleeue Christ to be the Sonne of the Father and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 God of him-selfe as Epiphanius saith and is before declared And as Bellarmine dare not condemne Contro 2. lib. 2. ca. 19 our doctrine herein vttered by Caluin but cauilleth at the matter of his speech So his brother Gregorie de Valentia a Iesuit approueth it saying filius Lib. 1. de Trinita cap. 2. lib. 2 cap. 17. vt est persona est ex alio vt simplicissimum ens non est ex alio The sonne in respect of his person is of an other Viz the Father in respect of his most simple essence is not of an other You say that you omitte many â—o petty differences in matters of faith c. The which as you would not haue spared if you could haue found them So you might haue omitted these before mentioned for any other proofe you haue made of them besides your bare worde or any truth that is contained in them Touching the doctrine of Baptisme you would faine finde a knot in a rush a difference where none is We all beleeue that Baptisme is a seale of Gods couenant with vs in Iesus Christ a sacrament of our regeneration in himâ— and that God in due time sometimes before and sometimes after Luk. 1. 15 Act. 10. 44 worketh inwardly by his spirit in his elect and chosen that which outwardly is signified Baptisme in purging them from the guiltines of their sinnes and sanctifying them to newnes of life But neither one nor other of vs beleeue that Baptisme doth ex opere operato purge and cleanse all that bee baptized Symon Magus was outwardly Act. 8. 13. baptized and yet remayned still in the gall of bitternes and bond of iniquitie If you know any diuersitie among vs herein name the persons set downe the places and carry not matters thus in a clowd to the diffaming of the faithfull and the deceiuing of your ouer affectionate fauourers and followers of you in your follies I know no Puritanes that condemne the communion booke as irreligious or erronious although some doe thinke of it as of translations that some imperfections be in it And hath not your Iupiter Capitolinus the Pope in reforming the Missals and Primers and in leauing out and altering sundry thinges that were in them confessed imperfections yea and corruptions to haue bene in them What hath bin the iudgement of your owne Catholikes of Espen in Com. in 1. Timoth. di gres l. p 22. ex â—dan lib. 3. de interpret Scrip. cap. 3. them appeareth by these wordes of Espenseus Lindanus proponit Episcopi Lugdunensiis quaerelam de Missalibus c. Lindan propoundeth the complaint of the Bishop of Lions for the purging of Missals and Antiphonaries saying wee haue corrected the Antiphonarie by cutting away such thinges as seemed to be superfluous false and blasphemous Which Bishop saith Lindan if he did see our Missals and Antiphonaries O good GOD With what name would he paint or call them in which secret prayâ—rs be defiled with most filthy faultes But our sinnes doe not suffer any amendment by the fault of the Bishoppes which are slacke heerein Heereby you may see what was the iudgement of three of your owne Catholike Bishoppes of your missalls and other bookes of diuine seruice Sette downe if you canne the names of any of them whome you call Puritanes that haue so sharpely censured the Communion booke and haue charged it with such filthy faultes as these Popish prelates haue imputed to your Masse-bookes c. The signe of the Crosse in Baptisme is a matter in comparison of matters of faith and saluation of small moment the which though some refuse as not commanded in the word of GOD and greatly by you abused to Idolatry and sorcery yet it is in our CHVRCH retained not as appartayning to the substance of Baptisme or that the want of it doth any thing derogate from the perfection of Baptisme but as an ancient ceremony which long and vniuersally hath beene retained in the Church of GOD. Concerning confirmation I knowe none but that as they doe all with one mouth and hart condemne your making of it without any warrant of Gods word a Sacrament and your attributing more vertue to it then to Baptisme your defiling of it with superstitious ceremonies so they do in vnitie of Spirite acknowledge it to be a good and lawdable order in the Church for children after they haue beene baptised and so well instructed in the Principles of christian religion that they be able in some good measure to render an accompt of their faith to be by imposition of handes confirmed that is approued and admitted to the receauing of the holy Sacrament of Christs Supper Touching the vse of Surplesses organs c. in diuin seruice I say that men may differ in opinions of these things and agree in vnity of faith and knowledge of the sonne of God Socrates before named saith well 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 c. No religion obserueth the same rites although they embrace the same doctrine for they that bee of the same faith doe differ amongst them-selues concerning rites and ceremonies If Saint Peter after hee had receaued miraculoufly the guift and graces of the holy Ghost was not fully perswaded of the abrogation of the ceremonies of the law and the vocation of the gentils it is no maruaile if men now nothing to be compared to him be not fully perswaded of externall ceremonies and orders although they be throughly setled in the truth of the doctrine of faith Thus these seauen differences with the rest by you set downe wee haue examined and find them light vpon the ballance And although you auerre much yet
you prooue little The GOD of patience and consolation giue vnto Rom. 15 5. vs and you that wee may bee like minded one towards an other according to Christ Iesus that we may all with one minde and one mouth praise God euen the Father of our Lord Iesus Christ Amen Whereas you say that we haue no argument to prooue that we haue the true Church true religion and true faith but such as al heretikes haue euer vsed I answere that wee haue that argument and proofe for these things which although Heretikes haue falsely pretended as popish heretikes now do yet the Godly learned Fathers haue sincerely vsed And that is the holy word of God the only touchstone of truth and piller of the Church for as the Church 1. Tim. 3. 15 in one respect is the piller of truth as Saint Paul saith so in another the truth is the piller and prop of the Church as Chrysost in illum locum ho mil. 11. Math. 4. 4 7 10. Math. 19. 4. ibid. 22 29. Luk. 24. 27. 32 44 46 Rom. 1 2. 3 21. 4 3. Chrysostom saith For by what meanes els haue the Godly and learned Fathers in all ages confuted heresies and proued the Church but by the scriptures by them our Sauiour Christ foyled the diuell and put him to flight By them he answered the Pharisies By them he confuted the Sadduces By them he proued himselfe to be the promised Messias and Sauiour of the world By them Saint Paul confirmed the Gospel which he preached By them hee perswaded the Iewes those things which concerned Christ Iesus both out of the Law of Moses and out of the Act. 21. 23. ibid. 18 2 8 Prophets By them Apollos confuted the Iewes with great vehemencie shewing by the Scriptures that Iesus was the Christ By them the Godly and learned Fathers confuted and confounded the Arians and other Heretikes whom you here name as by their bookes and particular sayings it euidently appeareth Athanasius speaking of the Godly Athanas de de cretis Nicen. Synod pag. 528 decrees of the councell of Nice against the Arians writeth thus Atque harum rerum non aliunde nos quà m ex scripturis persuasionem habemus that is We be perswaded of these things by no other meanes but by the Scriptures Epiphanius saith In Scripturis sanctis Trinttas nobit Epipâ— contra pâ—â—umaiomachos haeres 7â— annuÌ„tiatur ac creditur citra curiositatem c. The Trinity is in the holy Scriptures preached vnto vs without curiositie beleued And that by theÌ„ al doctrines are to be confirmed al errors and heresies to be confuted they plainely and plentifully shew Tertullian saith that if Heretikes Tertul. lib de resurrec carnes Eâ—iph contra pâ—ulum Samosa haeres 66 Basii epist 80. bee brought to examine and try their questions onely by the Scriptures they cannot stand Epiphanius saith that wee are not to discusse questions by our owne wittes and reasons Sedex Scripturarum consequentia By the consequeÌ„ce of the Scriptures Saint Basil saith Let vs stand to the arbitrement of the Scripture inspired of God and with whome bee found doctrines agreeable to those diuine words let the truth be iudged to be with them Constantine sayd vnto the Bishoppes in the Nicene Councell The Euangelicall and Apostolicall bookes and the Oracles of the Theod. lib. 8. cap. 7 sol 284. Prophets doe plainely instruct vs of GOD wherefore laying away all enimitie and discord let vs take the explication or resolution of the questions in controuersie out of those saying inspired of GOD. So saith Saint Augustine Verum nos sacris literis accommodemus auditum c. August in Euang Ioan. tract 60. August de cura pro mortuis cap. 2. Let vs hearken vnto the holy Scriptures and according to them let vs helpe by the grace of God to dissolue this question And againe Non secunduÌ„ opinionem c. We must consider of this matter not according to yâ— commoÌ„ opinion but according to the holy Scriptures of our religion And of yâ— Church he saith thus Sed vtrum ipsi ecclesiam De vnitate ecclesiae cap. 16. teneant non nisi diuinarum ScripturaruÌ„ canonicis libris ostendant but whether they haue yâ— church let them shew by no other meanes but by the Canonical books of the diuine Scriptures Chrysostom saith yâ— we cannot know Chrisostom in Math. Homil. 44. which is the true Church of Christ Nisi tantummodo per Scripturas but onely by the Scriptures Therefore by the Scriptures proue your doctrine and shew your Church Math 4. But you say the Arians others Heretikes alleadged the Scriptures whereunto I adde that so did the Diuel also but in such sort as you and your fellowes doe in mangling them falsly expounding and applying them as I haue in some part before shewed I am conteÌ„t to ioyne this issue with you that they with be proued to depraue detort mangle and falsly expound and apply the scriptures be heretikes and to bee condemned with these old heretikes whome you here name To whome whether you or we bee more like let the vpright Reader indifferently iudge The Arians seeing that they could haue nothing out of the Scriptures fled as Athanasius saith vnto the Fathers and euen so do you The Arians vsed subtill distinctions Athanas tomâ— 2. to elude and shift of the truth and so do you They denied the person of Christ and you deny the office of Christ in not acknowledging him to be our onely Prophet and teacher whose onely voyce wee must heare and obey nor the only King and head of his Church nor our onely high Priest with the sweet smelling sacrifice of himselfe once for euer offered to redeeme and reconcile vs vnto God nor our only mediator to make intercession for vs. The Arians did cruelly persecute the true Christians Ruffin lib. 1. cap. 17. Socrates lib. 1. cap. 17. zozo in lib. 4. cap. 27. Gregor Nazi anz artic ad Arianos and so do Papists when power is in their hand to doe it The Arians when they could not preuaile against that excellent man Athanasius fell to raile vpon him and to slaunder him accusing him of adulterie murther and sorcerie and euen so do you now deale with such as for their godlinesse and learning may well bee compared with Athanaesiuâ— I meane especially Caeluin whome the Author of that vnlearned libell and beastly booke intituled A quartron of reasons of Catholike religion c. is not ashmed 5. reasoÌ„ pa. 30. to call a seare backt Priest for Sodomie O thou shamelesse man or rather monsterlart thou not ashamed to slaunder and belie such a man of whome they that knew him did truly write of him ipsâ— Ã quo potuit virtutem discere virtus Theo Beza that euen virtue it selfe might as it were haue learned vertue of him How doest thou know that Caluin was such a man I assure my selfe
which cannot bee moued but remaineth for euer Being iustified by faith wee haue Psal 125. 1. Rom. 5. 1. 2. peace towards God through our Lord Iesus Christ by whom al so through faith we haue had this accesse vnto his grace wherin we stand and reioyce vnder the hope of the glory of God Ye haue not receiued the spirit of bondage to feare againe but ye haue receaued the spirit of adoption whereby we cry Abba Father Rom 8. 15. The same spirit beareth witnes with our spirit that we are the children of God Who shall lay any thing to the charge of Ibid. vers 33. Gods chosâ—â— it is Christ that iustifieth Who shall condemne c. Who shall seperate vs from the loue of Christ shall tribulation vers 35. or anguish or persecutioÌ„ or famine or nakednes or perill or sword c. I am perswaded that neither death nor life nor Vers 38. Angels nor principalities nor powers nor things present nor things to come neither height nor depth nor any other creature shall be able to seperate vs from the loue of GOD which is in Christ Iesus our Lord. It is God which stablisheth vs with you 2. Cor. 1. 21. in Christ and hath anointed vs who hath also sealed vs and hath giuen the earnest of the spirit in our hearts In whome also ye haue trusted after that he heard the word of truth euen the Ephes 1. 13. Gospel of your saluation wherein also after ye beleeued ye were sealed with the holy spirit of promise which is the earnest of our inheritance c. Let vs therefore goe with confidence or boldnes Heb. 4. 16. vnto the throne of grace that wee may receaue mercy and finde grace to helpe in time of neede So God willing more abundantly Chap. 6. 17. to shew vnto the heires of promise the stablenes of his counsel bound himself by an oth that by two immutable things wherin it is impossible that God should lie we might haue strong consolation which haue our refuge to lay hold vpon that hope that is set before vs which hope we haue as an ancre of the soul both sure and stedâ—ast and it entreth into that which is within the vaile c. Let vs draw neere with a true hart in assuraÌ„ce of faith our hearts being pure from an euil conscience and washed Chap. 10 22. in our bodies with pure water let vs keepe the profession of our hope without wauering for he is faithful that promised Therfore by faith that by grace the promise might be sure to all the seed And he not weâ—ke in the faith considered not his owne Rom. 4. 16. Vers 19. body which was now dead being almost an hundred yeares old neither the deadnes of Saraâ—s wombe neither did he doubt of the promise of God through vnbeleefe but was strengthened in the faith and gaue glory to God being fully assured that hee which had promised was able to doe it and therefore it was imputed to him for righteousnes Herevnto I will adde to the confuting of this doctrine of doubting two or three sayings of the Fathers Chrysostome Chrisost ad Rom. Homi. 9. saith Spes humana subinde intercidit sperantem pudore afficit Nostra verò eiusmodi non est sed firma immobilis perdurat c. The hope that is had in man sundrie times falleth away and shameth him that hopeth but our hope is not such but abideth firme and vnmoueable August praefat in Psal 123. Augustine saith Gaudium ergo nostrum fratres nondum est in re sed iam in spe Spes autem nostra tam certa est quasi iam res perfecta sit i Our ioy O brethren is not as yet in possession but in hope And our hope is so certaine as though Bernard lib. 5. de considera the thing were already done Bernard saith Ergo vt dixi fides ambiguum non habet aut si habet fides non est sed opinio Faith hath no doubting or if it haue it is not faith but an opinion Againe Non est enim fides aestimatio sed certitudo Epist 190. Anton. hist part 2. Tit. 17. cap 1 Sec. 5. fol. 217. faith is not an opinion but a certainty And Antoninus out of the same Bernard alleageth these words Clamat Apostolus Scio cui credidi et certus sum Et tu mihi sub sibilas fides est â—stimatio Tu mihi ambiguum garris quo nihil est certius c. The Apostle crieth out saying I know whom I haue beleeued and am certaine and doest thou whisper to me that faith is an opinion Poest thou bable and tell me that that is doubtful then the which there is nothing more certaine c. Hereby the indifferent reader may see both how false this desperate doctrine of doubting is against the which Ambrosius Catherinus an Archbishop a great doer in the councel of Trent did earnestly writ also that the Papists by this principle of their doctrine teach infidelity And withal let him consider whether is a more true godly comfortable doctrine to beleeue by faith our saluatioÌ„ or to be vncertaine to doubt therof as they teach But now let vs see how S. Paul exhorteth vs as this man saith to doubt of our saluation He saith Cum timore â—remore salutem vestram operamini which is thus translated With feare and trembling worke your saluation This text was alleedged by hearesay and not by sight For this worthy writer who so highly thinketh of himselfe and so greatly disdaineth others quoteth in the margent 1. Cor. 2 whereas it is not in that chapter nor in all that Epistle but it is Philip. 2. 12. But the fault hereof will be laid vpon the Printer Yet that the Printer should so much erre and set 1. Cor. 2. for Phillip 2. it is not likely And that this error is not of the Printer but of this mans fine memorie it may hereby appeare yâ— it is not in the vulgar editioÌ„ which they both do and are bound to follow cum timore but cum metu Hereby the reader may see with what care these men alleage the Scriptures not looking vpon the words nor considering the simple sense and meaning but snatching at the words and wresting them contrary to the purpose and meaning of the Apostle Whose intent is not to teach Rom 3. 28. 4 2. 5. Gal. 2. 16. Ephe. 2. 8. 9. 2. Tim. 1 9. Tit. 3. 4. the Phillippians that they be saued by their workes which is contrary to his doctrine in many other places but to disswade them from carelesse security and to exhort them to walke in good workes and to run on the race of their life in the feare of God vntil they come to attaine that saluation which God hath promised and Iesus Christ for vs hath purchased Saint Paul to the Ephesians doth as it were to the explication of
were called Sadduces which in the Hebrew tongue doth signifie iust and righteous men Another sect were Pharisies so called as some thinke because they were expounders of the Law as others iudge Tanquam separati i. as separated from the societie of others in effect the same that Monachi that is to say liuers alone yet notwithstanding this glorious title and sundry austere and straite obseruations which in their liues they vsed they were the greatest aduersaries our Sauiour Christ had The Valentinian Epipha herae 31. â—ertul de mongam and Montaniest Heritiques called themselues Spirituales spirituall men and counted others carnall Therefore we are not to be moued with such outward titles which are but sheepes clothings to hide rauening Wolues But Rom. 2. 28. as S. Paul saieth hee is not a Iew which is one outward euen so euery one is not a Catholique that is so outwardly called but hee is a true Catholique that truly in his heart beleeueth and obeieth the heauenly doctrine of almightie God contained in the holy canonicall Scriptures in which the onely rule both of faith and life is Caus 8. Quaest 1. â—ec sufficere prescribed vnto vs as Beda saith the which holy doctrine deliuered and sanctified vnto vs in the holy Scriptures if this Gentlewoman and other of the same sect not obey as most certainely they doe not and as hereafter shall be proued they be no true Catholiques howsoeuer they be so outwardly called and doe vainely bragge of the same to whom may be well applied that saying of the Prophet Heare yee this O house of Iacob which are called by the name of Israel and come out of the waters of Iuda which sweare by the name of the Lord and make mention of the God of Israell but not in truth nor in righteousnesse But now I come to the questions 1. First whether Masse or Communion was brought first to England at the conuersion of our English nation to Christianitie 2. Secondly whether Masse or Communion be more ancient 3. Thirdly whether the CoÌ„munion as it is now practised in England were extant in any nation before the Raigne of King Henry the eight Answere AS touching the administration of the Sacrament of Christs body bloud which is commonly called the Communion because it is a pledge vnto vs of that Communion and fellowship which wee haue both with our Sauiour Christ and also one with another two kinde of things are to be considered First such as be of the substance and essence thereof which are vnchangeable Secondly such things as be Accidentall pertayning to the forme and fashion of the ministration thereof which be variable Of the former sort is the hauing of bread and wine the distribution of the same to them that be present prayer and thankesgiuing in a knowne tongue that all with one mouth and heart may giue thankes to God for his great and infinite mercies towards vs in nor sparing but giuing his owne deare sonne for vs euen his body to be broken vpon the Crosse and his bloud to be shed for our saluation whereof the bread and wine is a Sacrament that is to say a holy signe remembrance and pledge vnto vs yea and a meane and instrument whereby wee are made partakers of Christes body and bloud giuen for vs and of all the benefits of his passion These things be of the substance of the Sacrament and ought alwaies to be vsed and may not be altered Other things there be accidentall as the time and place of ministring the same the habit or tire to be vsed of the Minister the forme of praier and thanksgiuing in respect of the words These and such other be not of the substance of the Sacrament and haue no expresse commandement but be variable and changeable so that all things be done decently and to edification Now to come vnto your questions If you meane by the Communion and Masse the forme of praiers and Liturgie vsed by vs and you I may well say that neither of them both were first brought into England at the conuersion thereof to Christianitie altogether in such forme as now they be vsed for both what diuersities of Liturgies and seruice bookes haue beene and also what additions haue beene put to the same is not vnknowne Gregorie Lib 7. iud 2. Epist 6 3. saith the Apostles did consecrate and minister the Sacrament only with the prayer of our Sauiour Christ There be extant diuers sundrie Liturgies of the which the Papists attribute one to S. Iames another to S. Basil another to S. Chrysostome one differing froÌ„ another And in this small Iland within the time of Popery there were three or foure sorts of Masse bookes one after the manner of Yorke another after Sarum another after Bangor And about thirtie yeares past there was brought in a Romane Missall which abolisheth the rest It appeareth both by Augustine the Monkes questions and Gregorie the first answeres that there were diuers and different orders in diuers Churches Augustines question hath these words Cum vna sit fides sunt Ecclesiarum diuersa consuetudines Beda Ecclesiast hist lib. 1. cap. 28. altera consuetudo missarum in sancta Romana ecclesia utque altera in Galliarum tenetur i. Whereas there is but one faith there be diuers customes of the Churches and there is one custome or order of Masses in the holy Church of Rome and another in the Churches of France So also wee confesse that in the Churches where the truth of Christs Gospell is taught there be sundry Liturgies differing in forme of words and yet agreeing in substance of matter which may well be vsed to the glory of God and comfort of his people So that it forceth not though our Liturgie or forme of prayer vsed at the ministration of Christs holy supper were not brought into this Land at the first conuersion thereof or were neuer vsed before the raigne of King Henrie the eight as long as it cannot be prooued that it containeth any thing vngodly and dissenting from the word of God neither doth it auaile them though they could proue that their Masse as it is now vsed was brought into this Land at the conuersion of it which they cannot doe as long as we can plainely proue that it containeth a false sained sacrifice and hath many wicked prayers and superstitious toyes contrarie to the word of God Well saith Tâ—rtullian Quadâ—unque Tertul. de Virgin vâ—land aduersus veritatem sapit hoc â—rit Hâ—resiâ— ettam vetus consuetudo i. Whaâ—soeuer is against the truâ—th the same is Heresiâ— euen an olde custome But I will shew that some of their olde prayers which they vse in their Masse be wicked and dissenting from the word of God The Priests in the Canon of the Masse after Consecration prayeth in these words Supra quae propitio sereno vultu respicere digneris c. That thou wouldest vouchsafe to looke with a mercifull and fauourable
and his Apostles and it derogateth from the purging and cleansing of our sinnes which wee haue in the bloud of Iesus Christ whereof I wil only set downe a few places with one offering hath he made perfect them which are Hâ—â— 10. 14. 1. 3. Heb 9. 14. 1 Iohn 1. 7. sanctified hauing by himselfe purged our sinnes sitteth on the right hand on the Maiestie on high how much more shall the bloud of Christ which through the eternall spirit offered himselfe without spot to God purge your consciences from dead workes to serue the liuing God The bloud of Iesus Christ his Sonne cleanseth vs from all sin If we confesse our sins God is faithful and righteous to forgiue our sins and to cleanse vs Apoc. 1. 5. 7. 14. from all our iniquities Christ hath loued washed vs from our sins in his owne bloud and makes vs Kings and Priestes vnto God c. The Saints wash their long Robes make Ioh. 1. 29. Psal 51. 7. Isa 2. 18. Rom 5. 10. them white in the blood of the Lamb that is Christ Iesus who is the Lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world Purge me with Isope I shall be cleane wash me I shal be whiter then snow Though your sins were as Crimson they shall be made as white as snow If when we were enemies wee were reconciled to God by the death of his son much more being reconsiled we shall be saued by his life How these and such like places of Scripture will agree with the Popish Purgatory in the which they imagine sinnes to bee punished soules to be purged and Gods iustice to bee satisfied let the Christian Reader consider and so marke what the word of God sheweth to be our true Purgatory euen the bloud of Iesus Christ Saint Paul saith that wee bâ—ing Rom. 5. 1. Apoc. 14. 13. iustified by faith haue peace with God through our Lord Iesus Christ And Saint Iohn saith Blessed are the dead which hereafter die in the Lord. Euen so saith the spirit that they rest from their labors and their workes follow them How the faithfull haue peace with God and rest from their labours and yet be tormented in the terrible paines of Purgatory I would saine vnderstand But of this popish purgatory and praier for the dead which depend on it I will write no more at this present expecting that this Catholike Gentlewoman which can propound such profound and vnanswerable questions will profoundly and pithily proue them by the Scriptures which when shee doth she shal by the grace of God heare further from me As concerning praier to Saints departed out of this life I say and here-vppon doe stand that in all the holy Scriptures there is not one commandement of God that wee should pray vnto them nor one promise made to such prayer nor one example of any Patriarke Prophet Apostle or godly man that euer prayed vnto them And although this may sufficiently satisfie a Christian conscience which ought to bee grounded vppon the word of GGD and thereby directed and may moue it to hate and abhorre this false doctrine which hath no warrant in Gods word yet the more to perswade this Gentlewoman and others of her crew to the truth I will sette downe a few arguments grounded vpon the Scriptures to confute this their doctrine of praying vnto Saints My first reason shal be vpon these words of the Apostle Rom 10. 14. How shall they call on him in whome they haue not beleeued Where-vpon I make this argument we are to pray only to him in whome we beleeue but wee beleeue onely in God therefore we are to pray onely to God and so consequently not vnto Saints The first proposition is the word of Apostle the second if they deny I wil hereafter proue it My second Argument shall bee this They are not to be praied vnto yâ— heare not our praiers but the Saints departed heare not our praiers therefore we are not to pray vnto them The first proposition is euident If they shal deny the second I wil hereafter proue it in the meane time lette them consider these places of Scripture Isa 63 16. 2. Reg. 22. 20 Psal 27. 10. My third Argument is this They are not to bee praied vnto which know not our hearts and know not whether our praiers proceed from our hearts or not but the Saints know not our hearts Ergo we ought not to pray vnto them My last argument shall be this wee are to offer sacrifizes Hosea 14. 2. Hâ—b 13 15. Psal 50. 23. to none but onely God Exod. 22. 20. but our praiers bee sacrifices therefore we are to offer them onely to God and so consequently not vnto Saints When this Gentlewoman and her friends shall directly and plainely answer these reasons and set downe as many or mo grounded vpon the Scriptures to proue their assertion then they heare more from me As touching Images if they can proue them by the Scriptures and by the testimonies of all writers since Christ and his Apostles they shall worke wonders the which vntill they doe I will set downe a few places out of the holy Scriptures and ancient Fathers which I would wish them well and deepely to consider and either to answer them or to yeeld vnto the truth of them I will begin with the commandement of GOD. Thou shalt Isa 20 4 Deut. 5. â— make thee no grauen Image neither any similitude of things that are in heauen aboue neither that are in the earth beneath nor that are in the waters vnder the earth thow shalt not bow downe to them nor worship them For I am the Lord thy GOD c. Take good heed vnto your selues for Deut. 4. 15 you saw no Image in the day that the LORD spake vnto you in the Mount Horeb out of the middest of the fire that you corrupt not your selues make you agrauen Image or representation of aâ—y figure whether it be male or female c. Cursed be the man that shall make any caruen or molten 27. 15. Image which is an abhominatioÌ„ vnto the Lord the worke of the handes of the crafts man and putteth it in a secret place al the people shal answer say Amen To whom theÌ„ Isa 40. 18. wil you likeÌ„ God or what similitude wil you set vp to him the workeman melteth an Image or the Goldsmith beateth it out in gold c. Al they that make an Image are vanity their 44. 9. delectable things shall nothing profit and they are their owne witnesses that they see not nor know not therefore they shal be Hab. 2. 18. confounded who haue made a God or molten Image that is profitable for nothing Read the rest that doth there follow Habacuke saith what profiteth the Image for the maker therof hath made it an Image a teacher of lies though he that made it trust therein when hee maketh dumbe Idols
First that the grace of God whereby we are saued is giuen Hier. et Auguâ— aduersus pelag according to our merites Secondly that the law of God might be fulfilled of vs. Thirdly that we haue free-will and sayd that therefore grace was giuen vnto men that what things they might doe by free-will they might the more easily do them by grace I haue heard that there Hier. aduersus Heluidium was an Heritike called Heluidius reproued by an ancient learned father for foolishly thinking that the greeke bookes of the new testament were corrupted which both our Rhemists in their preface of the new testament by them set forth and others also of the same crewe do openly auouch I haue heard of certaine heritikes called Angellici so named for worshiping Angells and of others called Augu de heres cap 39. â—rencus lib 1. cap 35 Epâ—ph heres 79. Collyradiani condemned for worshiping the Virgine Mary And yet they did not call her Queene of heauen Empresse of hell the gate of Paradise their hope c. They did not pray vnto her saying lube deum pecâ—ator bus misereri i. Command God to be mercifull to sinners nor monstrate esse matrem iure matris impera i. Shew thy selfe â—â—nauent in Psâ—lâ—â—rio â—eaâ—â— Viâ—ginis to be a mother rule or command Christ by the authority of a mother but onely they offered a cake in the honour of her Whether these be not now taught and maintained for Catholike doctrines in the Romish church let the indifferent reader vprightly iudge Now to conclude and make an end I would exhort this gentlewoman and all others of her sect and opinion to take heed in the name of God how they resist the truth of God which in his great mercy hee hath reueiled vnto vs and that they doe not wilfully shut their eyes against it nor maintaine false and damnable doctrines which they bee neuer able by the word of God to defend Let them consider the grosse blindnesse and ignorance of former ages when such fables â—egâ—nd Festâ—ual c. and lies were published and preached as they be now ashamed of them and the booke of God was as good as lost the light thereof being kept vnder the bushell of a strange tongue by meanes whereof the people had no instruction nor comfort of it but sate in darkenesse and shadow of death were carried away after creatures and led after dum Idols as the Apostle sayth 1. Corr. 12. 2. Now is the word of God truely translated and sincerely preached the truth of God published and Popish heresies Ioh. 3. 19. effectually confuted and confounded Light is come into the world loue not darkenesse more then light We haue the Heauenly Manna of Gods holy word among vs bee not like the vnthankfull Isralites loathing the same and desiring to eate againe Onyons and Garlike in Aegipt But search diligently the holy scriptures make them the rule of your religion and line to leade your life by Proue all things hold that which is good and abstaine from all appearance of euill The God of all mercie roote 1. Thess 5. 21. out all errors and Herisies and giue free passage to his holy word lighten the eyes of the ignorant strengthen them that be weake treade downe sathan vnder our feete and giue vs grace to bee like minded one towards another according to Iesus Christ that with one minde and one mouth wee may glorifie God euen the Father of our Iesus Christ So be it Amen Amen I receiued aboue two yeares past out of Lankâ—shire this writing here following which I haue haue set downe in the same words forme and orthography as I receiued it and can yet shew it Thus it beginneth with this title Notes of dissention c. D. BVckley in answeare to the 12. articles c. fol. 17. 18. 19. noteth that the Waldenses Albingenses Boemia and many such other c. Were the true church of God were killed for the word of God and haue washed their roabes in the bloud of the Lambe and now haue beauty for asshes the oyle of ioy for mourning c. B. ante o. e. A. ante d. a. A. ante l. i. Vide Coupers Dixionary in these words Boemia Adamitae Albingenses Albanenses Boemia is a Realme called Beame inclosed with the bounds of Germany hauing on the East Hungary on the South Bauier on the West c. They vary from the Catholike faith in sundry opinions and do scorne aâ—l ceremonies In some places there the priuely obserue the sect of the Adamites and Waldenses the act of lechery whereof it is written in the words Adamitae c. 2 Adamitae or Adamiani were heretikes which tooke their beginning of a Piâ—ard who came into the Land of Bohemia And sayd that hee was the sonne of God and named himselfe Adam and hee commanded all men and women to goe naked and that whosoeuer desired to company carnally with any woman should take her by the hand and bring her to him and say that he feruently desired her company and then would Adam saie goe together and increase and multiplie This heresie began the yeare of our Lord 1412. in the time of Sigismundus the Emperour and men suppose that it dureth yet not only in Boemia but in other places also 3. Albingenses were the heretikes which began by Tolouse in Fraâ—ce the yeare of our Lord 120. which held the heresies of the Albanenses touching soule Baptisme God and the generall Resurrection Moreouer that it was not lawfull for the christian men to eate flesh 4. Albanenses were certaine Heretikes in the yeare of our Lord 1120. This sect held sundry heresies one was that the soule of man after his death was put into an other body an other that Baptisme was of no effect The third that there were two Gods one good and an other euill And that of the good proceeded good things and of the euill God euill things the 4. that in heil were none other paines then be in this world the 5. that the generall iudgement is past and that there is none to come the 6. that it is lawful for any man to sweare the 7. that man hath no free-will The 8. that the matter whereof the world was made was not made of God but is co-eternall with God the 9. that there is no originall sinne also that sinne commeth not of free-will but of the diueâ—l the 10. they denied that the body should eftsoones arise at the day of iudgement the 11. they abiected all the olde testament as a vaine thing and of none authoritie An Obiection SEe these seuerall opinions of two of your Doctors Buckley and Couper of the manner of beleefe of doctrine of the aboue named Martirs who Buckley pag. 18. saith haue washed their roabes in the bloud of the Lambe therefore iudge as to your owne selfe shall seeme best Begardy were women impeccabiles that is without sinne Buckley pag. 17 vide acts â—o
and opinions were euen the same which as you haue heard were maintained by the good faithfull people called Waldenses Pauperes de Lugduno Maister Fox sheweth out of Nicholas Triuet who died anno 1328. that the Albingenses Act. monumen tom 1 p. 299. 2. edit onis denyed transubstantiation in the Sacraments of Christs body and blood and that matriymony was not a Sacrament and further writeth that in some Error hee found that they did deale against the wanton Iâ— il pag. 35. wealth pride and tyranny of the Prelates and denied the popes authority to haue any ground of the Scriptures and that they could not away with there ceremonies and traditions as images pardons purgatory of the Romish Church calling them as some say blasphemous occupyings c. Henry Pantalion in his Chronographie affirmeth out of P. Aemilius that they denied Christs body Pag 98. to be in the bread of the Eucharist And a little before he writeth that one Hoyry a learned Monke of Tolosa did Pag 92. teach that prayers for the dead and to the dead excomucations of priests Pilgrimages consecrations of Chrisme are all vnprofitable wherevpon he was condemned Thus I haue shewed to satisfie this mans longing desire what I haue read of their Albingenses by which I haue bene moued to conceaue a good opinion of them and to accompt them for witnesses of Gods truth for the which they were so cruelly presecuted and destroyed by that Beast to whom Apacâ— 13 7. it was giuen to make warre with the Saintes and to ouercome them I doe confesse that I haue also reade not onely in this pelting paper but also in lying and prating Prateclus and other malitious enemies of Gods truth of other filthy and false opinions asscribed to them But this is no new deuise of the diuell but an old stratageme to attribute to the faithfull and Godly faulse titles and slanderous and filthy opinions and practises to bring them into hatred and to moue the world to persecute and destroy them So was Iesus Christ the sonne of God intreated being called a Samaritane a deceauer of the people and by Belzebub Math. 27 63. Luke 23 2. Math 12. 24. 9. 34. Act 24. the Prince of diuels to cast out diuels So was Saint Paul vsed being tearmed a pestilent and seditious fellow and chiefe maiâ—tainer of the herisie of the Nazarens So were the Christians in the primitiue Church handled who were slandered to kill children to eate their flesh and to Turtull in Apolog. drinke there bloud and in there assembles hauing put out the candles to commit adultery and incests So doth Gabr. pratcoleleuch haerae lib. 14 13. paup ac Lâ—gd that lying companion Gabriel Prateolus and the writer of this scroule deale with the walldenses otherwaiâ—â—â—lled Pauperaes de Lugduno whome they affirme to hold that carnall copulation betwixt men and women when the lust of the flesh burneth is lawfull to wome Aeneas Siluius doth not ascribe any such opinion In those daies the Papists were not growne to such impudencie in lying as now they are Thus wee see that it ought not to seeme strange vnto vs for filthy facts and false doctrines to be by malitious enemies falsely imputed to Gods true Saints and seruantes It were rather a maruaile if the diuell being by name and long practise a Slaunderer should leaue his old occupation in slaundering and defaming the faithfull fauorers of Gods truth But this man saith that I dissent from those Bishops D. Cowper and Iewell I answere that as I doe reuerence the memory of them so I do nothing herein differ from them For concerning B Cowper I say that not he but Sir Thomas Eliot did sette downe in the dictionary all that therein is written of the Albingenses and Albanenses as appeareth by the first edition of it by Sir Thomas Eliot himselfe printed by Thomas Barthâ—let anno Dom. 15. 42. hauing this title Bibâ—otheca Eliotae Eliotes Librarie There the reader shall find all those thinges written of the Albingenses and Albanenses without addition detraction or alteration before D. Cowper did deale in it D. Cowper in supplying of wordes that there wanted did leaue these things and such like especially concerning proper names as he found them and not as he himselfe did iudge of them As for the difference in iudgement betwixt Sir Thomas Eliot and mee concerning these Albingenses although I doe greatly reuerence the memorie of him for his learning and for his good labours to the aduancing thereof yet I doe not thinke my selfe bound to stand to his iudgement therein who might bee to much carried away with the corrupt errors which ouer much swaied in his time whereby hee did to little espic the diuels accustomed deuise and practise before mentioned much credit the false reports of their malicious aduersaries As touching that pretious Iewell and most learned Bishoppe whereas D. Harding writeth thus If ye meane Hus Hierome of prage Wicklesse Almarâ—rke Abâ—lard the Apostolikes Consuta of the Apolâ—g Peterbuisians Berenâ—arians Waldenses Albingenses Image-breakers and such like which euer found fauâ—te with the Church c he answereth in these words Of Abailard Defens of the Apolâ—g and Almerike and certaine other your strange names if they haue taught any thinge contrary to the truth of God we haue no skill they are none of ours of Iohn Hus Hierome of Prage and Berengarius and other like vertuous men wee haue no cause to be a hamed c. This is all that Bishop Iewel saith in which words he doth not once name the Albingenses much lesse impute those filthy and false opinions to them Nether doth he absolutely affirme that Abailaâ—d and Almarike or any of the rest maintained any thing contrary to the truth of God but conditionly saith if they taught any thing coâ—trary to the truth of God we haue no skill they are none of ours to the which I say Amen But that B. Iewel did not accompt the Albingenses for wicked heretikes it may hereby appeare in that hee thought well of the See defens of the Apolo vt 1. cap. 2. diuis 1. part 4. â—â—p 1â— diuis 1. pag. 503. Waldenses which were the same that were the Albingenses as I haue before shewed but diuersly called in diuers places and did repute them for good and Godly men By this that I haue said the iudicious reader may see that there is no difference at all betwixt me and these reuerend and learned Bishops concerning the Albingenses as this ignorant Romanist doth vainely imagine And if there had beene some diuersity in iudgement herein betwixt vs I in thinking well and they in hardly iudging of them it had bene a matter of no great moment Heretofore vnder â—latiâ—a in Bonifac 8. Gabr. prateo pag. 206. Popery many worshipped Herman of Ferrara for a Saint whome Pope Boniface the 8. caused to be digged vp and burned for an heritike Some Popes
Iohn Slechta who was no fauourer but a misliker of them Centur. 4. pag. 334. truly translated Maister Bale in the life of Clement the fifth writeth thus of them Beghardos ac Beguinas quia panem Eucharisticum honorare nolebant imprâ—bat i. Clement the fifth misliked the Beghardi Beguins because they would not honour the bread of the Eucharist And that these men 〈◊〉 tempor fol. â—â— maintained the doctrines of the Waldenses Werâ—â—rus the Charthusian Monke of Colen in plaine wordes affirmeth Beghardi multi combuste sunt Parysiis propter heresim pauperum de Lugduno c. many Begwardi were burnt at Paris for the heresie of the poore men of Lyons that is to say the Waldenses Thus as I deny and defie the filthy and false opinions imputed I know not how truly to the Adamites and Albanenses so I doe confesse that I doe accoumpt these that were called Waldenses Albingenses and Beghardi or Picardy to haue beene faithfull men and witnesses of Gods holy truth whome although the world hated reiected and persecuted as it did Christ yet were they elect and pretious and beloued of God And I feare not to affirme that they haue washed their robes in the bloud of the Lambe and now haue beauty for ashes the oylâ— of ioy for mourning c. and are more worthy to bee reputed for holy Martirs and confessors then either Thomas Beckâ—t or Dominicus that bloody Fryar or Catherâ—nâ— his minion or Francis that superstitious hypocrite or Clara his companion or many others whome the Popes haue canonized for Saints For not he that him-selfe or any other man commendeth but whome God commendeth is approued and a Saint in his sight â— Cor. 16. 1â— And lette this man and all such others barke as much as they will or can against that true doctrine which the Waldenses Albingenses and Beghardi heretofore professed and is now through GODS great mercy in this land and many other Christian countries by publike authoritie maintayned they shall doe but as madde dogges doe that barke against the Moone and shall but kiâ—ke against the pricke and rush against that rocke that will not yeelde but bruse them to powder Great is the truth and it will preuaile Well saith Epiphanâ—us Contra Apâ—l lian Herâ—s 4◠〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 c. c. Neither shall darkenesse preuaile when the light shineth Now the light of GODS worde shineth now is that man of sinne reuealed now are his errours and abhominations disclosed and confuted and all his sworne soldiers they Iebusites are not able either to couer and hide him or defend them If this man thinke that they are why doe they so long suffer the bookes of D. Abbot D. Downam and maister Powell in the which they haue plainely proued the Pope to bee Antichrist soundly confuted Bellarmines weake defence and simple shifts to stand so long vnanswered and that their grand maister from whome they receiue life and vppon whome they wholy depend to bee vndefended This is a matter of no small moment which cannot without the losse of all bee neglected If the Pope be Antichrist then is their doctrine Antichristian and they are the slaues of Antichrist This sort wherein their whole safety consisteth ought with all might and maine be defended and this breach with all speed bee repaired And it hath by the canons of the men before named these foure yeares past beene battered and yet is the defense and repaire thereof vtterly neglected They write many pelting Pamphlets and such slender scroules as this is but to answere these books with raize the foundation of their religion or rather superstition and ouerthrow there great Goliaâ— of Rome they be very slacke Wherein appeareth to any that willingly will not shut his eies the weakenesse and desperate estate of there forlorne cause c. And thus much I thought good to answere to the contentes of the sayd scrowle which may seeme more then it deserueth being a foolish bable voide of learning and truth Eusebius history Eccles lib. 7. cap. 24 fol. 79. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 c Truth is a friend and before all things to be honored and we ought without enuy to commend and approue that which is well spoken and to examine and correct or confute whatsoeuer is not soundly written S. R. IN his answere to Maister Thomas Bels chalenge named the downfall oâ— Popery nippâ—th at me in these Pag. 126. words Bel termeth him Berengarius a silly Deacon though his brother Buckley call him an excellent and holy man Here first I do obserue that whereas this writer in this his answere which carieth a greater shew of learning then substance of truth doth in three places make mention of this my answeare viz. in the page here noted also pag. 144. and lastly pag. 208. it may seeme that he neuer reade it for that in all these places hee quoteth my answere to 8. reasons whereas it is vnto 12. Neither can he excuse this by saying that by the figure 8. hee meaneth the eight reason for the two first places are in my answeare to the forth reason and the third place is to the seauenth This doth also the more appeare in that he doth not truly alleadge my words but addeth to them For whereas I called Berengarius an excellent man hee saith that I called him an excellent and holy man Hereby it may seeme that this man receiued these places by hand from others and not by the reading of his owne â—ies As touching Berengarius I do willingly confesse that I haue a most reuerent opinion of him and doe thinke that notwithstanding his weakenesse in recanting once the truth hee was an excellent yea and holy man both for his singular learning and vertuous life And to conceiue this reuerent opinion of him I am mooued by the testimony of some Papists who fauored not the true doctrine which he maintained but especially by the great commendations which that learned father and notable poet Hildebartus bishop of Maine in France doth giue him Atoninus the Archbishop of Florence writeth of him Histor part 2. Tit. â—â— cap. 1 â— 20. fol. 175. Fiuit autem alias Berengarius iste vir bonus plenus elemosynis et humilitate magnarum possâ—ssionum quae omnia in vsus pauperuÌ„ dispersit praeterea nuillam foemâ—nam in conspectu suo patiebatur admitti This Berengarius was otherwise a good man full of almes deedes and of humilitie and dispersed great possessions to the vse of the poore and would suffer no woman to come in his sight Robert Gaguin in his French history hath these words of him Henrici tempore c. In the time of this Henry Berengarius Deacon or rather Archdeacon of Tours raised an error concerning the sacrament of the Eucharist wherein hee sayd Lib. 6. in Henrico was not the true body of Christ but a certaine example of his body from which he afterward repenting changed his minde and
liued very liberall to the poore and fleeing the company of women in so much as after his death he was honored for his great holinesse The same and more doth the continuer of Beda his story write of him in these words Porro liâ—et Berengarius primum c. Although Berengarius did discredit the first heate of his youth by De gestis Anglerum continuat lib. 3. cap. 27. defending some heresies yet in his riper age hee so repented that without retraction he was of some men countted for a Saint beeing approued by innumerable good workes and especially by humility and almes deedes He was a Lord of great possessions by dispersing them and not a seruant of them by hiding and adoring them Hee was so sparing of womans beauty that hee would suffer none to come in his sight least hee should tast the same with his eye which he did not couet in his heart He despised not the poore nor flattered the rich Hee liued agreeable to nature hauing food apparrell as the Apostle saith being content with the same where-vpon Hildebartus the Bishop of Mayne an excellent Poet doth commend him c. Whose verses as the said author thought meete to insert into his history so I haue thought good to alleadge them here both because they be most worthy to read and doe plainely shew what an excellent and holy man he was QVem mâ—do miratur semper mirabitur orbis Ille Berrengarius non obiturus obit Quem sacra fidei fastigia summa tenentem Iam quinta dies abstulit ausa nefas Illa dies damnosa dies et perfida mundo Qua dolor et rerum summa ruina fuit Qua status ecclesia qua spes et gloria clers Qua cultor iuris iure ruente ruit Quicquid Philosophi quicquid cecinere Poetae Ingenio cescit eloquioque suo Sanctior et maior sapientia maius adorta Impleuit sacrum pectus et ora deo Pectus eam voluit vox protulit actio promisit Singula factori sic studuere suo Vir sacer et sapiens cui nomen erescit in horas Quo minor est quisquis maximus est hominum Cui fensus peperit paros seruauit honores Cui pauper potior diuite iusque lucro Cui nec desidiam nec luxum res dedit ampla Nec tumidum fecit multus et a tus honor Qui nec ad argentum nec ad aurum lumina flexit Sed doluit quoties cui daret hoc aberat Qui non cessauit in opum fulcire ruinas Donec inops dando pauper et ipse fuit Cuius cura sequi naturam legibus vti Et mentem vitijs or a negare dolis Virtutes opibus rarum praeponere falso Nil vacuum sensu dicere nec facere Laedere nec quemquam cunct is prodesse fauorem Et populare lucrum pellere mente manu Cui vestis textura rudis cui non fuit vnquam Ante sitim potus nec cibus ante famen Quem pudor Hospitium statuit sibi quamque libido Incestos superat tam superauit eam Quem natura parens cum mundo contulit inquit Degenerant alij nascitur iste mihi Quoque vagabatur et pene reliquerat orbem Inclusit sacro pectore iustitiam Vir sacer a puero qui quantum praeminet orbi Fama tam famae praminet ipse suae Fama minor meritis cum totum peruolet orbem Cum semper crescat non erit aequa tamen Vir pius atque grauis vir fic in vtroque modestus Vt liuor neutro rodere posset eum Liuor eum deflet quem carpserat ante nec tam carpsit et odit eum qua modo laudat amat Quam prius ex vita tam nunc ex morte gemiscit et quaeritur celeres huius abisse dies Vir vere sapiens et parte beatus ab omni Qui caelos anima corpore ditat humum Post obitum viuam secum socum requiescam Nec fiat melior sors mea sorte sua Verses of Hildebert Bishop of Mons vpon Berengarius tran slated English THe wonder of the Timesthat was of late And shall continue euerlasting date That Berengarius who gaue place to none For holy Faiths profession now is gone A wofull day vnto the world wherein Creat losse and sorrow threatens to beginne Whereby the Church the Cleargy and the Law The hopes of their successe to ruine draw All parts of wisdomes-loue and Poets vaine Within his wit and tongue he did retaine But greater and more holy wisdome brought Those gifts to more deuine-inspired thought Which working in his heart his mouth did preach And by example of his life did teach So all things did concur vnto his praise To giue him name that should suruiue his daies A wise and holie man who did regard Poore more then ritch and right aboue reward Whose plenty neither sloath nor riot bred Nor honour to proud humour him mis-led Who in delight of Lucre did not liue But all his grife was he did want to giue Who from the needy neuer shut his doore Vntill by giuing he himselfe was poore Who sought to follow Nature yeeld to law His minde from vice his words from guile to draw To truth and vertue he gaue chiefe defence He neuer sayd nor did things voide of sence He hurt no man but sought to pleasure all No popular respects could him enthral Plaine were his cloathes nor meate did hee desire Nor drinck till thirst and hungar did require Him honest shame did chuse her cheifest ghest While lust which conquers others he supprest And nature at his birth in ioy said she Let others goe this man is borne to me And Iustice whom the world did cleane forsake He to the Harbour of his heart did take Bred holy from a child who now doth more Excell himselfe in fame then all before All fame too little for his great desarts To equall by report his worthy parts A Godly sober man so wise and graue That enuies-selfe could not his praise depraue Nay Enuy which at him in life did raile Now after death doth loue him and bewaile A man most happy and most perfect-wise Whose soule now raignes in th' euerlasting skies O let my soule partake his blessed rest No better place of safety I request OF these verses both Antoninus in the place aboue cited Tritem de scriptor Eccle. in Heâ— lebertâ— fol. 68. and Tritemius the Abbat do make mention of the number of them 52. as these are by the which I haue alleaged the christian reader not moued with malice as it seemeth S. R. is but led by Godly reason may iudge whether I had not good cause to call Berengarius an excellent man The like I may say of Doctor Reynoldes of blessed memory whom I called an excellent Ornament pag. 144. which S. R. in like manner in his malice misliketh But the Godly I doubt not will acknowledge that his great learning and vpright and innocent