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A34986 A Babylonish opposer of truth by the truth reproved and his enmity, falshood, and confusion manifested in answer to an impertinent paper sent abroad by Thomas Crisp, in which his false foundation is discovered, and his building brought upon his own head / written by Stephen Crisp ; with a postscript by J. Penington and R. Richardson. Crisp, Stephen, 1628-1692.; Penington, John, 1655-1710.; Richardson, Richard, 1623?-1689. 1681 (1681) Wing C6924; ESTC R27135 15,223 20

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and J. P. again with the same tendency as before viz. to render their sence different from their Brethrens present practice and particularly their directing to the Light in our own Hearts or Consciences inconsistent with the unlimited power which he saith is given to Men and Women Meetings as may be seen p. 9 and 12. of his Book stiled Babels Builders unmasking themselves c. which if by E. B. and J. P. he means Edward Burroughs and Isaac Penington let me say is no less than a manifest Perversion of their Writings as well as that I demand of him to prove how it can be deducible therefrom and that the rather for that I my self know that my Father hath delivered to the contrary both by word and writing and never saw or heard any thing contradictory thereto come from him And I have also a Manuscript of Edward Burroughs by me written in the Ninth Year of the publication of Truth in London wherein after he hath given account of the first Preaching of the Gospel in that City he declares that the Mens M●eting there was set up in the Name Power and Wisdom of the Lord Jesus Christ and that he had given them Power and Authority so to do And afterwards speaking of the Womens Meeting saith It was in the same manner ordered in the Authority of Christ to be continued for such and such services and concludes These things was I moved of the Lord to write forth in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ for the Service of Truth and in the same Name Power and Authority c. do I enjoyn the free and perfect observation of the things herein signified Now in as much as it is clear that neither of them did oppose a man's being guided by the Light to his concurring in practice with that good order and government now Establish'd in the Church of Christ but acknowledged the benefit and necessity thereof so that as by the Spirit none can call Jesus accursed so none that is really led by the Light can under pretence of being directed thereto As the only Guide and Leader call that accursed or the Order and Edicts of Men which the same Light Grace and Truth that convinced at the beginning brings forth in the Church whether immediately or mediately through Instruments will not this man then be found a false accuser in the day of the Lord that would insinuate the contrary Let him consider it and have a care lest by his continual smiting against God's Servants and mis-representing them he be at length given up to a Reprobate mind for is it not grosly wicked thus elaborately to endeavour to render men otherwise than they are in God's sight and take those indirect means to prove it as he did by my Father as never to read his Book and see whether it were so or no but only take it upon trust from his Adversary and upon his sole Authority commit it to the Press and then instead of reclaiming it go on in a like evil work Surely as a man I would have wiped off such a blemish before I came in Print again on such an occasion but with regret let me say it I have seen too many hardned through the deceitfulness of sin and their very innocent Image lost when prejudice and envy hath filled them against the Lord's People and fallen short of what is civil generous and noble among men and become too much like the brute Beast that perisheth which indeed is not pleasant to behold though a just reward upon such as would lay God's Heritage wast This is what I thought my self more immediately conce●ned to observe having been already engaged in detecting the 〈◊〉 unfairness and injuriousness and being the person that demanded of him to make good what he had said relating to E. B. and my Father J. P. both publickly in Print of which I gave him one into his own hands and Privately in converse who am known by the name of John Penington A few Notes on some Principal Passages in Babel Builders and another Pamphlet subscribed Teste T. C BAbel c. Page 7. Their Reasons against such Subscriptions are lest Opposers should make ill work with it not that they are against the substance in it c. Note It may be observed how ambiguously he names Reasons and yet making but one thing the Reason Whereas there 's great difference betwixt one Reason the only Reason and all the Reason and all the Reasons the least Reason and the greatest Reason Because God and his Prophet said Because thou hast made the Enemies of God to Blaspheme was he not therefore otherwise displeased with what David had done Consider how much ado Friends in Barbados had and opposition they took this course As King James did with the Oath of Allegiance to distinguish Papists and the Scots with the Covenant to distinguish Malignants as they called them so in this these did aiming at the best in the general whatsoever the Worder or Worders of it might do in the particular which 't is probable S. C. believed but not that he believed it was ill meant in the General by the whole quarterly Meeting Which Errour in them through ignorance or shortness of in-sight as well as fore-sight G. F. c. taking care to convince them of in the first place wisely renders them docible and attentive by shewing them how they mist their aim in rather giving the Adversary just advantage against themselves thereby than getting thereby the advantage they expected against their Adversaries And shews them how so much against their want of fore-sight of the effect as one reason of it which T. C. makes all the reasons Then having prepared their minds thereby as a Preface there is an entring into the Matter it self and shewing their want of present clear in-sight into the nature of the thing There follows other reasons as from the Effects First That it would bring them from their own particular measures Secondly It would cause an Offering of a blind Sacrifice which could not be received among themselves Thirdly Neither in the wilful Opposers of them Fourthly A plain Affirmation and inference therefrom viz. therefore all are to give up to that in their own particulars Fifthly The effect of that viz. Unity and Fellowship which is a receiving strength For all things even in nature desire Union to gain strength thereby which is contrary to giving up and weakening by subscription and tying below a blind Offering as is said But the Unity and bond of the Spirit is above that a natural bond in the Divine Nature and clear and voluntary joyning for mutual joy and comfort So that Sixthly Here is a clear distinction of the two Writings viz. that above that below one Earthly the other Heavenly Seventhly Proved by the Saints Testimony in the Gospel who were led by one Spirit to see their names written in Heaven Eighthly From the absurdity and contradiction appearing in
the foolish Woman that pull'd down her House with her own Hands but as if thou hadst herein spoken too much Truth thou seeks to bury it again with three or four palpable Lies in the next Page First G. F. seemingly disowns the Paper yet owns it too Secondly The whole scope of their Letter is that they are only dissatisfied with the wording of it Thirdly That we have nothing against them we call Opposers but their not submitting to G. F's orders without Conviction Fourthly That G.F. c. does not at all contradict the principles in the Paper only the subscribing of it p. 13. Is not this strange work that thou shouldst set thy name to such notorious untruths and things wherein thou thy self shews every body how to contradict thee too First tell them that G. F. c. differs from the Subscribers and wherein even in such a principle of their Paper as thou differs from them in and indeed I too and then to tell them that G. F. does not at all contradict the principles c. This is even sad work to see men grope at noon day that might have enjoyed the light of the Sun as well as others if they had kept the love and fear of God in their heart so I intend not at present to bestow much more pains about this matter the foundation upon which it was built being discovered to be Enmity and Falsehood the Structure cannot stand In the mean time glad should I be that thou or some of you may sink down into Coolness and remember whence you are fallen and falling and what a Spirit is entred you that is refresh'd at any thing that is a grief to the Innocent People of God and are fretting and grieving at that which is our greatest Joy and Comfort in which many among you sometime did partake with us I say when ye see what Spirit this is that hath prevailed upon you it will make you wish you had not wandered from the Flock nor from the Shepherds Tents though it may be when it may be too late Therefore you that have time prize it the Lord's Day is come and His Judgments hastens and he will decide the Controversie As for S. E's Paper which thou puts in the end of thy Book we look upon to be more a fruit of a general Enmity against us as a People than any particular grudge against S. E. for we see how thou Improves it and at last with a bold-faced Lye charges us generally with it saying These things are Covered Excused or Justified Who among us have either Covered Excused or Justified S. E's Paper I never knew any nor I believe thou neither but on the contrary divers did Testifie against it before it was done and after it was done before it could be outwardly known whether it would be true or no but he did give out such a Paper to his own hurt and sorrow and to the grieving of many and it serves thou and you for food and nourishment and for a Stone to stumble upon But alas what will you gain by it do you think to make this Conclusion S.E. was mistaken and wrote that as the Word of the Lord that was his own word became his own burthen Ergo G.F. and the People called Quakers are led by a wrong Spirit and will and must fall Do you think this would not be sorry arguing if turned upon your selves but I let it pass and leave it to your better Considerations and seeing thou hast published E. S's Letter to J. S. in which the offence lies Here followeth his own Testimony against himself and it long since which though I know it will not satisfie those that seeks occasions of stumbling yet it may be a help to the simple in heart and a warning to all that may be tempted in like manner AS I was sitting Waiting upon the Lord on the 29th Instant these things rose in my Heart That I should acknowledge my Offence to all the Brethren in London and thereabouts and Bristoll and to all the Brethren North and South that have been Witnesses against the Spirit of Separation and am to let you know that it doth truly Repent me and sorely grieve me that you that do bear a faithful Testimony for God should have any Prophecy thrown at you which I spoke to John Story in an angry Spirit I do therefore acknowledge as I have signified in my last Paper about two years ago that I have had little Rest day nor night at times never since I spoke these words to John Story That it was the Word of the Lord that he should Die that year which were mine own words And soon became my Burthen and were spoken in the Dark and Darkness was upon my Spirit and so under a strong Temptation which I was suffered to fall into I not standing in the Councel of God for which I bore God's Indignation But I soon saw I should have gone to him in a Meek Spirit to beseech him to be reconciled to his Brethren But I do Judge and Condemn that hasty Spirit that set time for his Dying And called it the Word of the Lord. And do desire this may go as far as where ever it may have a service for Truth Barbados the 30. 3 Month 1681. S. E. POSTSCRIPT THomas Crisp having once before appeared in Print with a like evil design of opposing the Testimony of Friends in the beginning to the order and practice now observed among the Faithful and having therein curtailed a Testimony of my dear Father Isaac Penington and published that as Edward Burroughs his Vision which is questioned whether he ever wrote as well as that he confessed he had never seen or read that Book of my Fathers out of which he presumed to render him to the World as inconsistent with Friends now but taken it from the credit of another no less disingenious than himself I say he having been thus gross it had better become him to have taken shame to himself for his former headiness partiality rash and confused work than to have put forth another Pamphlet reflecting upon such on whom the care of the Churches is laid as Babel Builders especially seeing his unfairness and unworthiness was both privately represented to him and he publiquely required to make good First That ever Edward Burrough wrote that or any such Paper as he took upon trust as his Vision Or Secondly That that cited by him was Edward Burroughs 's entire Paper But that he instead thereof should take no notice of these reasonable demands as if they were not material or he not bound to make good what he had said and declared to the World but continue in his wicked work of smiting God's Servants and Messengers and traducing their Writings greatly detects the meanness of the man's Spirit and the little regard he hath to deal justly and equally with those he opposeth Yet he can have the face to bring up the names of E. B.