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piece_n their_o image_n say_v it_o we_o we_o make_v it_o calui_fw-la calui_fw-la not_o now_o any_o scruple_n of_o conscience_n to_o retain_v still_o those_o church_n which_o be_v pollute_v with_o idol_n and_o to_o put_v they_o to_o better_a use_n because_o that_o which_o be_v add_v to_o the_o law_n propter_fw-la consequentiam_fw-la as_o they_o term_v it_o do_v not_o bind_v us._n i_o grant_v that_o all_o those_o thing_n which_o do_v tend_v to_o the_o plant_n of_o superstition_n ought_v to_o be_v take_v away_o so_o that_o by_o precise_a urge_v of_o that_o which_o be_v of_o itself_o indifferent_a we_o be_v not_o in_o to_o much_o rigour_n superstitious_a the_o place_n be_v worth_a the_o note_n it_o full_o overthrow_v your_o ground_n against_o the_o apparel_n saint_n augustine_n in_o that_o sermon_n quote_v in_o your_o margin_n speak_v against_o such_o as_o profess_v christianity_n do_v notwithstanding_o resort_v to_o the_o temple_n of_o the_o pagan_n at_o their_o solemnity_n and_o feast_n 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the_o pagan_n say_v in_o their_o heart_n why_o forsake_v we_o our_o god_n see_v the_o christian_n themselves_o worship_v they_o as_o well_o as_o we_o and_o again_o behold_v against_o what_o true_a god_n thou_o do_v offend_v while_o thou_o fall_v down_o before_o false_a go_n s._n augustine_n speak_v not_o one_o word_n in_o all_o that_o sermon_n of_o ceremony_n or_o any_o thing_n else_o take_v from_o the_o gentiles_n and_o by_o christian_n convert_v to_o other_o use_n much_o less_o of_o any_o such_o matter_n as_o we_o have_v new_a in_o question_n and_o therefore_o you_o do_v but_o abuse_v the_o reader_n by_o recite_v certain_a word_n of_o s._n augustine_n without_o the_o circumstance_n which_o open_v the_o true_a meaning_n of_o they_o i_o praise_v your_o wit_n for_o say_v that_o such_o thing_n may_v be_v convert_v to_o private_a use_n for_o deny_v that_o as_o s._n augustine_n plain_o do_v and_o i_o shall_v be_v find_v unto_o you_o that_o your_o doctrine_n shall_v have_v the_o few_o 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martyr_n in_o the_o epistle_n before_o mention_v touch_v this_o matter_n martyr_n p._n martyr_n write_v on_o this_o sort_n but_o let_v we_o consider_v your_o other_o argument_n that_o be_v to_o say_v it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o use_v these_o kind_n of_o vesture_n because_o they_o be_v invent_v by_o the_o pope_n tyranny_n in_o this_o point_n i_o do_v not_o well_o perceive_v how_o it_o may_v be_v affirm_v for_o a_o surety_n that_o we_o can_v use_v nothing_o that_o pertein_v to_o the_o pope_n and_o be_v use_v in_o god_n temple_n of_o idol_n conver_n t_v to_o the_o wor_n ship_n of_o god_n popery_n true_o we_o must_v take_v good_a heed_n that_o we_o bring_v not_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n into_o such_o bondage_n that_o it_o may_v not_o use_v any_o thing_n that_o the_o pope_n use_v it_o be_v very_o true_a that_o our_o forefather_n take_v the_o temple_n of_o idol_n &_o turn_v revenue_n revenue_n they_o into_o holy_a church_n where_o christ_n shall_v be_v worship_v and_o they_o take_v 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something_o you_o will_v say_v how_o unapt_o soever_o lest_o you_o shall_v seem_v to_o give_v place_n to_o the_o plain_a truth_n these_o vesture_n be_v neither_o use_v at_o the_o table_n of_o idol_n nor_o with_o the_o offence_n of_o the_o the_o weak_a as_o i_o have_v she_o wed_v before_o they_o be_v know_v of_o all_o man_n to_o be_v note_n of_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n aswell_o as_o the_o bell_n be_v know_v to_o be_v ring_v to_o godly_a prayer_n and_o preach_n etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o you_o have_v speak_v but_o answer_v nothing_o chap._n 5._o the._n 6._o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 60._o sect_n ▪_o 2._o bullinger_n and_o gualther_n in_o the_o epistle_n before_o allege_v answer_v this_o gualther_n bullinger_n and_o gualther_n question_n whether_o we_o may_v wear_v such_o apparel_n as_o the_o papist_n do_v say_v on_o this_o sort_n if_o we_o shall_v have_v nothing_o common_a with_o they_o then_o must_v we_o forsake_v all_o our_o church_n 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〈◊〉_d against_o 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o beginning_n there_o be_v apostle_n therefore_o there_o must_v be_v apostle_n now_o in_o y_z e_z beginning_z it_o be_v forbid_v to_o eat_v y_o it_o which_o be_v strangle_v ergo_fw-la we_o may_v not_o eat_v it_o now_o in_o y_z e_z beginning_z there_o be_v no_o christian_a magistrates_n ergo_fw-la there_o must_v e_o no_o e_z now_o in_o the_o beginning_n the_o apostle_n baptize_v in_o river_n the_o communion_n be_v minister_v to_o 12._o only_o etc._n etc._n ergo_fw-la quòd_fw-la posterius_fw-la falsum_fw-la that_o which_o be_v latter_o be_v false_a these_o be_v as_o good_a argument_n as_o you_o but_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o tertullian_n speak_v of_o matter_n of_o faith_n &_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n &_o therefore_o these_o argument_n &_o you_o also_o with_o such_o like_a be_v stark_o naught_o chap._n 3._o the._n 19_o division_n t._n c._n page_n 79._o sect._n ult._n now_o see_v that_o hierome_n confess_v y_o it_o a_o bishop_n &_o a_o elder_n by_o 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that_o woman_n shall_v baptise_v for_o even_o in_o that_o necessity_n the_o curate_n may_v be_v send_v for_o or_o some_o other_o minister_n that_o may_v soon_o be_v come_v by_o your_o question_n be_v soon_o answer_v for_o no_o man_n doubt_v of_o the_o person_n that_o be_v present_a at_o such_o a_o time_n but_o i_o have_v tell_v you_o that_o when_o such_o necessity_n require_v the_o curate_n or_o the_o next_o minister_n be_v soon_o send_v for_o as_o often_o time_n he_o be_v in_o as_o great_a extremity_n as_o that_o and_o what_o a_o reason_n call_v you_o this_o woman_n be_v present_a when_o the_o child_n that_o be_v bear_v be_v in_o great_a danger_n of_o death_n therefore_o the_o minister_n can_v be_v send_v for_o to_o baptise_v the_o child_n to_o your_o objection_n of_o the_o magistrate_n allow_v the_o practice_n of_o baptise_v by_o woman_n i_o answer_v first_o that_o your_o general_a proposition_n be_v untrue_a as_o i_o think_v for_o all_o the_o magistrate_n of_o this_o realm_n do_v not_o so_o second_o that_o if_o they_o do_v yet_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o they_o do_v it_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o book_n for_o many_o thing_n be_v permit_v as_o tolerable_a which_o be_v not_o establish_v by_o any_o law_n and_o therefore_o if_o you_o have_v do_v well_o you_o shall_v rather_o have_v reprove_v the_o custom_n that_o do_v use_v it_o than_o the_o book_n that_o speak_v never_o a_o word_n of_o it_o i_o deal_v as_o plain_o as_o i_o can_v for_o i_o keep_v i_o to_o the_o book_n but_o your_o vain_a conjecture_n and_o frivolous_a reason_n against_o that_o book_n may_v not_o be_v yield_v unto_o but_o open_v that_o they_o may_v appear_v in_o their_o colour_n chap._n 3._o the._n 2._o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 79._o sect._n ult._n your_o place_n of_o scripture_n allege_v against_o it_o be_v not_o of_o sufficient_a argument_n feeble_n argument_n force_n to_o prove_v your_o purpose_n christ_n in_o the._n 28._o of_o matthew_n say_v to_o his_o disciple_n go_v and_o teach_v all_o nation_n baptise_a they_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n etc._n etc._n ergo_fw-la woman_n may_v not_o baptise_v i_o say_v this_o argument_n follow_v not_o no_o more_o than_o this_o do_v ergo_fw-la pastor_n may_v not_o baptise_v for_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o a_o apostle_n be_v dislincte_n from_o a_o pastor_n t._n c._n pag._n 109._o sect._n 5._o the_o place_n of_o the._n 28._o of_o saint_n matthew_n be_v as_o strong_a against_o woman_n baptise_v as_o it_o be_v against_o their_o preach_n for_o 〈◊〉_d for_o untruth_n 〈◊〉_d have_v 〈◊〉_d the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n can_v not_o be_v pull_v in_o sunder_o which_o y_o e_z lord_n have_v join_v together_o from_o time_n to_o time_n for_o
evensong_n neither_o can_v they_o be_v bring_v to_o the_o contrary_a and_o yet_o the_o prayer_n be_v not_o the_o worse_o so_o they_o call_v the_o day_n of_o christ_n nativity_n christmas_n etc._n etc._n what_o be_v this_o to_o condemn_v the_o thing_n themselves_o but_o you_o say_v this_o term_n do_v import_v nothing_o else_o than_o a_o banishment_n from_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n so_o may_v you_o say_v that_o these_o name_n sunday_n &_o monday_n do_v import_n y_fw-mi t_z we_o dedicate_v those_o day_n to_o the_o sun_n &_o moon_n and_o so_o likewise_o may_v you_o say_v of_o the_o other_o name_v retain_v in_o the_o common_a and_o usual_a speech_n but_o all_o man_n will_v then_o espy_v your_o folly_n even_o as_o they_o may_v do_v now_o if_o they_o be_v dispose_v the_o absence_n of_o the_o woman_n after_o her_o delyverie_n be_v neither_o banishment_n nor_o excommunication_n as_o you_o term_v it_o but_o a_o withdraw_n deliverance_n the_o true_a cause_n of_o the_o absence_n of_o the_o woman_n after_o her_o deliverance_n of_o the_o party_n from_o the_o church_n by_o reason_n of_o that_o infirmity_n and_o danger_n that_o god_n have_v lay_v upon_o woman_n kind_n in_o punishment_n of_o the_o first_o sin_n which_o danger_n she_o know_v not_o whether_o she_o shall_v escape_v or_o no_o and_o therefore_o after_o she_o have_v not_o only_o escape_v it_o but_o also_o bring_v a_o child_n into_o the_o world_n to_o the_o increase_n of_o god_n people_n and_o after_o such_o time_n as_o the_o comeliness_n of_o nature_n may_v bear_v she_o come_v first_o into_o thanksgiving_n the_o cause_n of_o her_o thanksgiving_n the_o church_n to_o give_v thanks_n for_o the_o same_o and_o for_o the_o deliveraunce_n by_o christ_n from_o that_o sin_n whereof_o that_o infirmity_n be_v a_o perpetual_a testimony_n and_o this_o be_v do_v not_o jewish_o but_o christianly_o not_o of_o custom_n but_o of_o duty_n not_o to_o make_v the_o act_n of_o lawful_a matrimony_n unclean_a but_o to_o give_v thanks_n to_o god_n for_o deliveraunce_n from_o so_o manifold_a peril_n what_o christian_a heart_n can_v for_o the_o name_n sake_n thus_o disallow_v of_o it_o as_o you_o do_v the_o come_v so_o near_o the_o communion_n table_n be_v a_o very_a small_a matter_n to_o carp_v at_o it_o be_v think_v to_o be_v the_o most_o convenient_a place_n both_o for_o the_o minister_n &_o for_o the_o woman_n especial_o if_o she_o be_v dispose_v to_o receive_v the_o holy_a communion_n but_o such_o trifle_a quarrel_n argue_v a_o extreme_a penury_n of_o good_a and_o substantial_a reason_n the_o pay_v of_o her_o accustom_a offering_n which_o you_o seem_v most_o to_o mislike_v as_o yourself_o confess_v the_o meaning_n of_o the_o book_n to_o be_v have_v no_o such_o purpose_n and_o intent_n as_o you_o will_v make_v the_o reader_n to_o believe_v neither_o can_v it_o for_o she_o neither_o offer_v lamb_n turtle_n or_o 12_o levit._fw-la 12_o young_a pigeon_n as_o the_o law_n require_v but_o pay_v to_o the_o curate_n his_o accustom_a duty_n which_o both_o she_o may_v as_o lawful_o give_v and_o he_o receive_v as_o the_o other_o tenthes_o may_v be_v pay_v and_o receyve_v it_o be_v a_o portion_n of_o the_o pastor_n live_v appoint_v and_o limit_v unto_o he_o by_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o he_o may_v lawful_o receive_v it_o as_o it_o be_v appoint_v unto_o he_o and_o all_o your_o objection_n to_o the_o contrary_a be_v hereby_o answer_v full_o chap._n 7._o the._n 2._o division_n admonition_n in_o which_o book_n a_o great_a number_n of_o thing_n contrary_a to_o god_n word_n be_v contain_v as_o jewish_a 10._o jewish_a act._n 15._o 10._o purifying_n etc._n etc._n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 81._o sect._n 4._o the_o third_o be_v the_o jewishe_a purifying_n as_o you_o term_v it_o you_o cite_v for_o that_o purpose_n act._n 15._o where_o peter_n speak_v against_o certain_a of_o the_o pharisy_n which_o beleve_v and_o teach_v that_o it_o be_v nedeful_a for_o the_o gentile_n which_o be_v convert_v to_o be_v circumcise_v and_o to_o observe_v moses_n law_n say_v on_o this_o sort_n now_o therefore_o why_o tempt_v you_o god_n 15._o act._n 15._o to_o lay_v a_o yoke_n on_o the_o disciple_n neck_n etc._n etc._n how_o any_o thing_n here_o contain_v prohibit_v woman_n after_o they_o be_v deliver_v from_o the_o great_a danger_n and_o pain_n of_o child_n bear_v to_o give_v in_o the_o congregation_n thank_v for_o their_o deliverance_n let_v the_o godly_a reader_n judge_v sure_o this_o be_v no_o jewishe_a purify_n but_o christian_a give_v of_o thanks_n most_o consonant_a and_o agreeable_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n but_o hereof_o also_o some_o thing_n more_o be_v to_o be_v speak_v in_o a_o other_o place_n t._n c._n pag._n 119._o lin_v 24._o now_o whereas_o m._n doctor_n say_v that_o the_o place_n of_o the_o 15._o of_o the_o act_n allege_v by_o the_o admonition_n make_v nothing_o against_o this_o he_o shall_v have_v consider_v that_o if_o it_o be_v a_o jewyshe_a ceremony_n as_o they_o suppose_v it_o it_o be_v to_o be_v abolish_v utter_o for_o it_o be_v show_v there_o that_o all_o the_o ceremonial_a law_n of_o moses_n be_v do_v away_o through_o our_o saviour_n christ_n this_o also_o a_o part_n thereof_o must_v needs_o be_v therein_o comprise_v io._n whitgifte_n the_o place_n nothing_o perteyn_v to_o this_o purpose_n neither_o be_v give_v of_o thanks_n a_o jewysh_a ceremony_n and_o therefore_o their_o supposition_n be_v but_o vain_a chap._n 7._o the._n 3._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 119._o in_o the_o midst_n and_o whereas_o he_o say_v that_o it_o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o a_o thanksgiving_n for_o hit_v deliverance_n can_v be_v therefore_o but_o christian_a and_o very_o godly_a i_o answer_v that_o if_o there_o shall_v be_v solemn_a and_o express_a give_v of_o thanks_n in_o the_o church_n for_o every_o benefit_n either_o equal_a or_o great_a than_o this_o which_o any_o singular_a person_n in_o the_o church_n do_v receyve_v we_o shall_v not_o only_o have_v no_o preach_v of_o the_o 11._o theod._n li._n 4_o cap._n 11._o word_n nor_o minister_a of_o the_o sacrament_n but_o we_o shall_v not_o have_v so_o much_o leisure_n as_o to_o do_v any_o corporal_a or_o bodily_a work_n but_o shall_v be_v like_a unto_o those_o heretic_n which_o be_v call_v of_o the_o syriake_n word_n messalians_n or_o continual_a prayer_n and_o which_o do_v nothing_o else_o but_o prey_n io._n whitgifte_n truth_n be_v never_o contrary_a unto_o itself_o before_o you_o reprove_v the_o book_n of_o common_a prayer_n for_o want_n of_o thanksgiving_n for_o benefit_n receive_v and_o now_o you_o reprove_v it_o for_o appoint_v thanks_n to_o be_v give_v for_o deliverance_n from_o sin_n from_o manifold_a peril_n 3_o pag._n 108._o sect._n 3_o and_o danger_n and_o for_o the_o increase_n of_o god_n people_n all_o which_o thing_n be_v public_a although_o thanks_n be_v give_v by_o a_o private_a person_n for_o in_o deed_n the_o punishment_n and_o danger_n lay_v upon_o all_o womankind_n for_o disobedience_n 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their_o dream_n prophecy_n three_o they_o say_v that_o the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o baptism_n do_v neither_o good_a nor_o harm_n to_o any_o man_n fourthlye_a when_o they_o be_v charge_v with_o such_o thing_n they_o will_v not_o stand_v to_o they_o but_o impudent_o deny_v they_o last_o of_o all_o they_o teach_v that_o every_o man_n when_o he_o be_v bear_v do_v take_v of_o his_o parent_n as_o the_o nature_n so_o likewise_o the_o servitude_n of_o devil_n which_o be_v drive_v out_o by_o diligent_a prayer_n the_o holy_a spirit_n enter_v in_o etc._n etc._n this_o be_v all_o that_o theodoret_n in_o that_o place_n report_v of_o those_o heretic_n the_o which_o how_o much_o it_o make_v against_o either_o diligent_a or_o continual_a prayer_n 4._o luc._n 18._o rom._n 12._o epbe._n 6._o coll._n 4._o or_o thanksgiving_n for_o
sunday_n which_o you_o have_v deny_v to_o be_v his_o opinion_n in_o the_o former_a two_o place_n i_o have_v tell_v you_o what_o he_o mean_v by_o discipline_n and_o order_n or_o policy_n whereby_o he_o give_v to_o understande_v nothing_o less_o than_o that_o which_o you_o will_v conclude_v be_v but_o your_o own_o devise_n to_o serve_v for_o a_o poor_a shift_n at_o a_o need_n and_o although_o the_o matter_n be_v not_o great_a whether_o they_o labour_v or_o no_o yet_o the_o law_n of_o the_o prince_n and_o the_o order_n of_o the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v observe_v and_o so_o it_o appear_v that_o there_o be_v no_o reasonable_a cause_n as_o yet_o prove_v why_o you_o ought_v not_o to_o subscribe_v to_o the_o service_n book_n chap._n 2._o the._n 8._o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 82._o sect._n 1._o 2._o in_o the_o end_n you_o add_v patch_v if_o not_o altogether_o yet_o the_o great_a piece_n out_o of_o the_o pope_n portuis_fw-la to_o this_o i_o answer_v brief_o it_o make_v 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great_a consideration_n have_v that_o prince_n and_o noble_a man_n and_o such_o as_o have_v authority_n and_o pre-eminence_n in_o the_o church_n be_v choose_v to_o be_v of_o the_o signiory_n and_o will_v you_o make_v noble_a man_n and_o prince_n ecclesiastical_a person_n and_o such_o as_o must_v watch_v over_o the_o soul_n of_o man_n in_o deed_n those_o that_o be_v call_v presbyteri_fw-la in_o the_o scripture_n be_v ecclesiastical_a person_n for_o they_o be_v minister_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n and_o m._n caluine_n institut_fw-la cap._n 8._o sect_n 52._o caluine_n caluine_n say_v that_o all_o the_o senior_n be_v minister_n of_o the_o word_n his_o word_n be_v these_o habebant_fw-la ergo_fw-la singulae_fw-la civitates_fw-la presbyterorun_n collegium_fw-la qui_fw-la pastor_n erant_fw-la &_o doctores_fw-la nam_fw-la &_o apud_fw-la populum_fw-la munus_fw-la docendi_fw-la exhortandi_fw-la &_o corrigendi_fw-la quod_fw-la paulus_n episcopis_fw-la iniungit_fw-la omnes_fw-la 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this_o come_v to_o pass_v because_o the_o regiment_n leave_v of_o christ_n 23._o christ_n mat._n 18._o 7._o 1._o co._n 12._o 28_o rom._n 12._o 8._o 1._o ti._n 5._o 17._o act._n 15._o 2._o 4_o 6._o 22._o 23._o to_o his_o church_n be_v commit_v into_o one_o man_n hand_n who_o alone_o it_o shall_v be_v more_o easy_a for_o the_o wicked_a by_o bribe_v to_o pervert_v than_o to_o overthrow_v the_o faith_n &_o piety_n of_o a_o zealous_a and_o godly_a company_n for_o such_o manner_n of_o man_n in_o deed_n 13._o deed_n exod._n 18._o 21_o deut._n 1._o 13._o shall_v the_o senior_n be_v answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 130._o sect._n ult._n &_o pag._n 131._o 132._o &_o pag._n 133._o lin._n ult._n &_o pag._n 134._o sect._n 1_o you_o say_v all_o this_o come_v to_o pass_v because_o the_o regiment_n leave_v of_o christ_n to_o his_o church_n be_v commit_v unto_o one_o man_n hand_n and_o for_o the_o proof_n of_o this_o you_o note_v in_o the_o margin_n the._n 18._o of_o mat._n the._n 12._o of_o 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of_o the_o church_n they_o do_v where_o there_o be_v a_o constitute_v and_o order_v church_n perteyne_a unto_o the_o minister_n of_o y_fw-fr e_o church_n and_o to_o the_o ecclesiastical_a governor_n &_o that_o as_o they_o meddle_v not_o with_o y_z e_z make_v of_o civil_a law_n &_o law_n for_o the_o common_a wealth_n so_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n have_v not_o to_o ordain_v ceremony_n pertain_v to_o the_o church_n but_o if_o those_o to_o who_o that_o do_v apperteyne_a make_v any_o order_v not_o meet_v the_o magistrate_n may_v and_o aught_o to_o hynder_n they_o &_o drive_v they_o to_o better_a for_o so_o much_o as_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n have_v this_o charge_n to_o see_v that_o nothing_o be_v do_v against_o y_o e_o glory_n of_o god_n in_o his_o dominion_n io._n whitgifte_n the_o word_n of_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 126._o be_v these_o and_o for_n these_o three_o joint_o that_o be_v the_o ecclesiastical_a the_o admoni_fw-la tor_n and_o t._n c._n join_v with_o the_o papist_n 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express_v word_n take_v from_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n all_o authority_n of_o make_v and_o appoint_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d order_n and_o ceremony_n of_o the_o church_n and_o give_v the_o same_o only_a to_o minister_n and_o eccle_n asticall_a govern_v r_n he_o make_v it_o the_o princess_n duty_n to_o see_v those_o awe_v execute_v which_o these_o eccle_n asticall_a governor_n shall_v appoynte_v and_o prescribe_v and_o in_o his_o preface_n he_o say_v that_o evil_a person_n may_v not_o handle_v ecclesiastical_a matter_n and_o pag._n 35._o &_o 145._o y_o e_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n may_v not_o be_v the_o head_n of_o the_o church_n in_o that_o common_a wealth_n whereof_o he_o be_v the_o head_n where_o by_o as_o i_o suppose_v he_o mean_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d supreme_a governor_n and_o that_o the_o church_n may_v be_v establish_v without_o he_o pag._n 54._o he_o deni_v that_o the_o magistrate_n ought_v to_o prescribe_v what_o kind_n of_o apparel_n minister_n shall_v 〈◊〉_d in_o diverse_a place_n he_o make_v such_o a_o distinction_n betwixt_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n &_o a_o christian_a common_a wealth_n y_o it_o have_v a_o christian_a magistrate_n as_o he_o will_v do_v betwixt_o the_o church_n &_o a_o heathenish_a common_a wealth_n y_o it_o have_v a_o persecute_v and_o a_o unbeleve_a magistrate_n and_o separate_v the_o common_a wealth_n of_o england_n as_o far_o from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n as_o he_o can_v do_v the_o common_a wealth_n of_o turcia_n from_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n in_o turcia_n all_o this_o i_o have_v note_v to_o this_o end_n that_o the_o good_a subject_n and_o those_o that_o be_v careful_a for_o the_o preservation_n of_o the_o state_n of_o this_o realm_n and_o the_o lawful_a authority_n of_o her_o majesty_n may_v the_o better_o consider_v and_o
beware_v of_o this_o doctrine_n the_o which_o unless_o i_o prove_v to_o be_v the_o self_n same_o with_o the_o papist_n in_o substance_n let_v i_o sustain_v that_o punishment_n that_o be_v due_a unto_o they_o who_o i_o burden_n &_o charge_n with_o forgetfulness_n of_o duty_n in_o this_o point_n saunders_n in_o that_o traitorous_a book_n of_o he_o write_v thus_o that_o have_v deceive_v many_o agree_v saunders_n &_o the_o rep_n ere_fw-we agree_v because_o they_o see_v king_n to_o be_v christian_n and_o to_o rule_v over_o christian_n for_o they_o know_v not_o or_o at_o the_o least_o they_o will_v not_o know_v what_o difference_n there_o be_v whether_o thou_o rule_v over_o a_o christian_a in_o that_o he_o be_v a_o christian_n or_o in_o that_o he_o be_v a_o man_n for_o a_o king_n rule_v over_o christian_a man_n but_o not_o saunders_n saunders_n because_o they_o be_v christian_n but_o because_o they_o be_v man_n and_o because_o byshoppss_n be_v man_n in_o that_o respect_n he_o rule_v also_o over_o they_o etc._n etc._n and._n t._n c._n in_o his_o reply_n pag._n 35._o write_v on_o this_o miast_n pag._n 5._o in_o the_o miast_n manner_n say_v that_o the_o godly_a magistrate_n be_v the_o head_n of_o the_o common_a wealth_n but_o not_o of_o the_o church_n mean_v that_o particular_a church_n contain_v in_o the_o common_a wealth_n whereof_o he_o be_v governor_n and_o in_o the_o same_o page_n he_o say_v that_o the_o christian_a magistrate_n be_v but_o only_o a_o member_n of_o that_o particular_a church_n and_o pag_n 145._o he_o say_v that_o the_o prince_n may_v well_o be_v 1._o pag._n 〈◊〉_d say_fw-la 1._o monarch_n immediate_o between_o god_n and_o the_o common_a wealth_n and_o not_o between_o god_n &_o the_o church_n in_o that_o common_a wealth_n or_o any_o singular_a member_n in_o the_o church_n and_o in_o this_o place_n he_o will_v have_v the_o civil_a magistrate_n no_o more_o to_o intermeddle_v with_o make_v ecclesiastical_a law_n and_o order_n than_o the_o ecclesiastical_a minister_n shall_v deal_v with_o civil_a diverse_a such_o nip_v and_o pinch_v he_o have_v at_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n speak_v no_o other_o wise_n of_o he_o than_o of_o a_o turk_n or_o a_o jew_n and_o give_v he_o no_o more_o authority_n in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o over_o christian_n than_o if_o he_o be_v the_o great_a turk_n or_o wicked_a nero._n but_o i_o answer_v they_o both_o with_o the_o word_n of_o m._n musculus_fw-la in_o his_o common_a place_n titu_fw-la de_fw-fr magistratu_fw-la let_v ethnic_n and_o infidel_n which_o live_v not_o in_o the_o unity_n of_o truth_n but_o in_o the_o confusion_n of_o error_n have_v their_o diverse_a law_n musculus_fw-la musculus_fw-la and_o magistrate_n some_o profane_a and_o some_o holy_a who_o whole_a life_n be_v profane_a who_o religion_n be_v but_o ecclesiastical_a superstition_n and_o in_o the_o temple_n only_o christian_n people_n be_v altogether_o holy_fw-mi and_o dedicate_v to_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n not_o in_o temple_n 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