Selected quad for the lemma: truth_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
truth_n word_n write_a writing_n 120 3 9.0134 5 false
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A10240 A rejoynder unto William Malone's reply to the first article Wherein the founders of unwritten traditions are confounded, out of the sure foundation of Scripture, and the true tradition of the Church. By Roger Puttocke, minister of Gods word at Novan. Puttock, Roger. 1632 (1632) STC 20520; ESTC S100925 167,226 214

There are 17 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

charactere_fw-la because_o of_o the_o most_o solid_a reply_n reply_n and_o most_o manifest_a testimony_n of_o the_o scripture_n as_o one_o of_o your_o own_o have_v say_v ●_o say_v ●●●videar_fw-la humanis_fw-la argumentis_fw-la id_fw-la agere_fw-la etc_n ex_fw-la ●vangelio_fw-la profero_fw-la certa_fw-la docum●●●●a_fw-la aug._n l._n 1._o de_fw-fr bapt._n ●ont_n donat._n c._n ●_o lest_o i_o shall_v seem_v to_o deal_v in_o this_o only_a by_o humane_a argument_n say_v s._n augustine_n i_o will_v bring_v most_o sure_a argument_n out_o of_o the_o gospel_n and_o in_o the_o word_n follow_v he_o bring_v in_o this_o text._n 50._o text._n luc._n 9_o 50._o forbid_v he_o not_o for_o he_o that_o be_v not_o against_o we_o be_v with_o we_o by_o which_o he_o overthrow_v the_o main_a argument_n of_o the_o adverse_a party_n who_o hold_v that_o the_o thing_n of_o christ_n can_v not_o be_v have_v out_o of_o the_o church_n and_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o this_o question_n whether_o it_o be_v better_a to_o baptise_v or_o not_o to_o baptise_v such_o he_o have_v these_o word_n 14._o word_n recurrens_fw-la ad_fw-la illam_fw-la stateram_fw-la dominicam_fw-la ubi_fw-la non_fw-la ex_fw-la humano_fw-la sensu_fw-la sed_fw-la authoritate_fw-la divinà_fw-la return_n momenta_fw-la pensantur_fw-la invenio_fw-la de_fw-la ●●raque_fw-la te_fw-la domini_fw-la sententiam_fw-la aug._n l._n 2._o the_o bapt_a count_v donat_n c._n 14._o look_v to_o the_o divine_a measure_n that_o be_v the_o scripture_n whereby_o thing_n be_v measure_v by_o divine_a authority_n and_o not_o by_o humane_a opinion_n i_o find_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o lord_n concern_v both_o and_o he_o conclude_v this_o question_n with_o these_o word_n 7._o word_n perspectis_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la testimonijs_fw-la potest_fw-la etiam_fw-la dici_fw-la quod_fw-la veritas_fw-la declaravit_fw-la hoc_fw-la sequimur_fw-la aug._n l._n 4._o the_o bapt_a count_v donat._n c_o 7._o have_v search_v the_o testimony_n of_o the_o scripture_n i_o may_v say_v we_o follow_v that_o which_o the_o truth_n declare_v thus_o it_o appear_v by_o the_o judgement_n of_o s._n augustine_n that_o the_o point_n of_o doctrine_n be_v write_v although_o for_o point_n of_o practice_n we_o read_v nothing_o in_o the_o writing_n of_o the_o apostle_n 7._o that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v and_o that_o the_o father_n be_v unbegotten_a and_o unborn_a i_o believe_v those_o as_o the_o article_n of_o my_o faith_n but_o i_o will_v never_o believe_v he_o that_o say_v 3._o say_v aug._n count_v maximinum_n l._n 3._o c._n 3._o s._n augustine_n hold_v they_o to_o be_v unwritten_a article_n these_o word_n the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v the_o father_n be_v unbegotten_a i_o confess_v be_v not_o write_v verbatim_o yet_o there_o be_v other_o word_n write_v which_o do_v import_v the_o same_o and_o be_v equivalent_a unto_o they_o and_o may_v we_o not_o understand_v some_o word_n which_o we_o read_v not_o out_o of_o those_o word_n which_o we_o read_v say_v s._n augustine_n 1._o augustine_n in_o verbis_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la evangeliu●_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o sensu_fw-la hicro●●m_fw-la in_o galat._n c._n 1._o the_o word_n be_v not_o the_o gospel_n but_o the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n be_v the_o gospel_n say_v s._n hierome_n so_o i_o 119_o reply_v pag._n 119_o may_v say_v the_o form_n of_o word_n be_v not_o the_o article_n of_o faith_n but_o the_o thing_n signify_v by_o those_o word_n else_o the_o church_n believe_v not_o these_o two_o article_n until_o this_o form_n of_o word_n be_v ibidem_fw-la be_v quasi_fw-la non_fw-la ex_fw-la ijs_fw-la quae_fw-la legimus_fw-la aliqua_fw-la etiam_fw-la quae_fw-la non_fw-la legimus_fw-la intelligamus_fw-la aug._n ibidem_fw-la use_v the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v the_o father_n be_v unborn_a as_o for_o the_o article_n of_o faith_n signify_v by_o these_o word_n the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v s._n augustine_n proove_v it_o out_o of_o the_o scripture_n in_o which_o it_o be_v write_v in_o a_o other_o form_n of_o word_n ●1_n word_n glorificate_n ergo_fw-la deum_fw-la in_o corpore_fw-la vestro_fw-la ubi_fw-la delucidè_fw-la ostend_v it_o deum_fw-la esse_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la glorificandum_fw-la scilicet_fw-la in_o corpore_fw-la nostro_fw-la aug._n count_v maxim_n l._n 3._o c._n ●1_n glorify_v therefore_o god_n in_o your_o body_n this_o evident_o declare_v that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v god_n and_o that_o he_o must_v be_v glorify_v in_o our_o body_n say_v s._n augustine_n and_o again_o 66._o again_o glorifieate_v deum_n &_o portate_fw-la in_o corpore_fw-la vestro_fw-la quem_fw-la deum_fw-la nisi_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la cujus_fw-la corpora_fw-la nostra_fw-la dixerit_fw-la esse_fw-la templum_fw-la aug._n epist_n 66._o glorify_v god_n in_o your_o body_n who_o do_v he_o mean_v but_o the_o holy_a ghost_n who_o temple_n he_o call_v our_o body_n and_o concern_v the_o word_n coessential_a unbegotten_a and_o the_o like_a he_o say_v 174._o say_v etiasi_fw-la vocabula_fw-la ista_fw-la ibi_fw-la non_fw-la inveniuntur_fw-la fieri_fw-la potest_fw-la ut_fw-la illud_fw-la inveniamus_fw-la cvi_fw-la haec_fw-la vocabula_fw-la rectè_fw-la adhibita_fw-la indicentur_fw-la aug._n epist_n 174._o although_o those_o word_n be_v not_o find_v in_o scripture_n yet_o we_o may_v find_v that_o which_o be_v intend_v by_o those_o word_n this_o than_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o s._n augustine_n that_o the_o doctrine_n signify_v by_o those_o word_n be_v write_v in_o other_o word_n although_o those_o word_n themselves_o be_v not_o write_v and_o as_o s._n augustine_n answer_v pascentius_n the_o arian_n so_o i_o may_v answer_v the_o jesuite_n ibidem_fw-la jesuite_n quid_fw-la contentiosius_fw-la est_fw-la quam_fw-la ubi_fw-la de_fw-la re_fw-la constat_fw-la certare_fw-la de_fw-la nomine_fw-la aug._n ibidem_fw-la what_o be_v more_o contentious_a then_o to_o strive_v about_o word_n when_o the_o thing_n mean_v by_o they_o be_v manifest_a 8._o it_o be_v not_o a_o other_o point_n of_o faith_n which_o s._n augustine_n handle_v in_o the_o next_o testimony_n but_o the_o point_n of_o rebaptisation_n 19_o rebaptisation_n aug._n de_fw-fr unit_fw-la eccles_n c._n 19_o this_o neither_o of_o we_o both_o can_v find_v write_v express_o and_o evident_o in_o the_o scripture_n and_o this_o be_v not_o speak_v concern_v the_o doctrine_n but_o concern_v the_o practice_n in_o this_o point_n as_o appear_v by_o s._n augustine_n answer_n to_o the_o heretic_n demand_v ibidem_fw-la demand_v cum_fw-la in_o scripture_n non_fw-la inveniamus_fw-la aliquos_fw-la ad_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la iam_fw-la transisle_n ab_fw-la heretic_n &_o sicut_fw-la ego_fw-la dico_fw-la aut_fw-la sicu●_n tu_fw-la dicis_fw-la esse_fw-la succeptos_fw-la aug._n ibidem_fw-la see_v now_o we_o find_v not_o any_o in_o the_o scripture_n to_o have_v for_o saken_a the_o heretic_n and_o come_v home_o to_o the_o church_n and_o to_o have_v be_v receive_v either_o as_o i_o say_v or_o as_o you_o say_v this_o point_n of_o fact_n may_v well_o be_v distinguish_v from_o the_o point_n of_o faith_n &_o the_o doctrine_n may_v be_v write_v though_o reply_n reply_n the_o practice_n be_v not_o write_v howsoever_o we_o grant_v it_o that_o the_o practice_n be_v not_o write_v neither_o be_v the_o doctrine_n write_v express_o and_o evident_o that_o the_o baptise_a by_o heretic_n shall_v not_o be_v rebaptise_v yet_o s._n augustine_n from_o most_o certain_a principle_n and_o by_o most_o evident_a consequence_n out_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n conclude_v the_o doctrine_n of_o this_o point_n the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n herein_o be_v according_a unto_o the_o truth_n of_o scripture_n s._n augustin●_n may_v very_o well_o oppose_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n against_o the_o heretic_n &_o tell_v he_o ●bidem_fw-la he_o aug._n ●bidem_fw-la thou_o must_v believe_v the_o church_n which_o if_o thou_o refuse_v to_o do_v thou_o do_v not_o oppose_v thyself_o against_o i_o or_o against_o man_n but_o reply_n reply_n even_o against_o our_o saviour_n himself_o to_o thy_o everlasting_a damnation_n the_o baptism_n of_o child_n of_o which_o s._n augustine_n write_v in_o the_o next_o testimony_n be_v no_o unwritten_a doctrine_n but_o a_o point_n establish_v likewise_o both_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n and_o of_o the_o church_n and_o s._n augustine_n do_v well_o to_o declare_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n and_o of_o the_o church_n in_o this_o point_n say_n apost_n say_n aug._n serm_n 14._o de_fw-fr verb._n apost_n such_o force_n have_v the_o authority_n reply_n reply_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o fix_a rule_n of_o truth_n that_o be_v the_o scripture_n against_o this_o bulwark_n against_o this_o impregnable_a wall_n who_o so_o advance_v himself_o he_o shall_v be_v break_v and_o burst_v in_o piece_n as_o this_o be_v most_o true_o affirm_v by_o s._n augustine_n so_o it_o be_v as_o impertinent_o allege_v by_o the_o jesuite_n reply_n reply_n be_v it_o not_o record_v in_o the_o act_n of_o the_o apostle_n that_o 3_o that_o act._n 1._o 3_o christ_n after_o his_o passion_n show_v himself_o alive_a to_o his_o apostle_n be_v see_v
scripture_n and_o the_o father_n and_o find_v this_o for_o truth_n that_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n teach_v no_o unwritten_a tradition_n if_o they_o do_v so_o what_o be_v this_o to_o the_o purpose_n unless_o the_o jesuite_n can_v prove_v that_o the_o unwritten_a tradition_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v the_o same_o which_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n deliver_v they_o pretend_v that_o they_o be_v so_o so_o they_o do_v in_o their_o miracle_n which_o be_v but_o cozen_v and_o juggle_a trick_n of_o leaguer_n de_fw-fr main_a so_o they_o do_v in_o their_o relic_n which_o be_v but_o grand_a imposture_n as_o the_o angel_n gabriels_n feather_n our_o lady_n smock_n s._n peter_n chain_n and_o the_o like_a these_o i_o believe_v be_v as_o true_a relic_n from_o they_o as_o their_o tradition_n be_v the_o same_o which_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n teach_v and_o as_o they_o be_v so_o be_v their_o authority_n which_o be_v the_o subject_n of_o his_o next_o section_n wherein_o we_o be_v to_o examine_v sect_n iii_o whether_o unwritten_a tradition_n be_v of_o equal_a authority_n with_o the_o write_a word_n 1._o none_o but_o a_o non_fw-la ens_fw-la will_v say_v that_o a_o non_fw-fr ens_fw-la can_v be_v of_o equal_a authority_n with_o the_o write_a word_n when_o as_o bellarmine_n confess_v that_o ●_o that_o bellarm._n de_fw-fr ●er●o_fw-la dei_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n ●_o all_o tradition_n be_v not_o of_o equal_a authority_n among_o themselves_o but_o without_o any_o distinction_n whatsoever_o this_o jesuite_n will_v have_v they_o all_o to_o be_v of_o the_o same_o authority_n among_o themselves_o and_o of_o the_o same_o authority_n with_o the_o write_a word_n and_o the_o truth_n be_v they_o be_v no_o more_o worthy_a to_o be_v compare_v with_o the_o write_a word_n than_o 28._o than_o jer._n 13._o 28._o chaff_n with_o wheat_n than_o dross_n with_o ●2_n with_o be_v 1._o ●2_n silver_n the_o jesuite_n have_v already_o grant_v this_o 116._o this_o pag._n 116._o that_o the_o rite_n and_o ordinance_n of_o the_o church_n be_v ground_v only_o upon_o humane_a right_n and_o now_o he_o contradict_v the_o same_o that_o they_o be_v of_o divine_a right_n even_o equal_a with_o the_o write_a word_n and_o for_o this_o opinion_n he_o 120._o reply_v p._n 120._o boast_v of_o plain_a scripture_n and_o the_o uniform_a consent_n of_o ancient_a father_n it_o be_v no_o new_a thing_n to_o hear_v the_o enemy_n of_o the_o truth_n claim_v the_o scripture_n and_o the_o father_n to_o be_v they_o after_o the_o same_o manner_n the_o heretic_n boast_v that_o 27._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d euseb_n l._n 5._o hist_o c._n 27._o the_o father_n and_o the_o apostle_n hold_v &_o teach_v the_o same_o thing_n which_o they_o say_v first_o let_v we_o hear_v his_o plain_a scripture_n 15._o scripture_n ●_o thes_n ●_o 15._o therefore_o brethren_n stand_v fast_o and_o hold_v the_o tradition_n which_o you_o have_v be_v teach_v whether_o by_o word_n or_o by_o our_o epistle_n this_o text_n be_v no_o less_o than_o ten_o time_n allege_v by_o he_o and_o once_o for_o all_o i_o return_v this_o answer_n to_o it_o those_o tradition_n be_v 121._o reply_v pag._n 121._o write_v and_o not_o unwritten_a doctrine_n s._n paul_n declare_v his_o continual_a practice_n 22._o practice_n act._n 26._o 22._o he_o witness_v both_o to_o small_a and_o great_a and_o therefore_o to_o the_o thessalonian_o none_o other_o thing_n than_o those_o which_o moses_n and_o the_o prophet_n do_v say_v his_o doctrine_n deliver_v at_o thessalonica_n be_v take_v 2._o take_v act._n 17._o 2._o out_o of_o the_o scripture_n and_o suppose_v it_o be_v not_o write_v in_o the_o old_a testament_n yet_o it_o may_v be_v write_v in_o the_o new_a by_o himself_o or_o by_o some_o other_o of_o the_o apostle_n what_o he_o teach_v the_o philippian_n by_o word_n of_o mouth_n the_o 1._o the_o philip._n 3._o 1._o same_o thing_n he_o write_v afterward_o unto_o they_o in_o his_o epistle_n and_o unto_o the_o thessalonian_o he_o write_v those_o thing_n 5._o thing_n 2._o thess_n 2._o 5._o which_o he_o first_o tell_v they_o and_o 10._o and_o 2._o thess_n 3._o 10._o which_o he_o first_o command_v they_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d use_v by_o the_o apostle_n signify_v aswell_o both_o as_o whether_o and_o it_o be_v not_o only_o disjunctive_a but_o very_o 8._o very_o 1._o cor._n ●1●_n 1●_n c._n 15._o 11._o coloss_n 1._o 20_o rom._n 14._o 8._o oft_o conjunctive_a by_o which_o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v declare_v to_o be_v this_o hold_v fast_o the_o tradition_n or_o the_o doctrine_n which_o have_v be_v teach_v you_o both_o by_o word_n of_o mouth_n &_o by_o epistle_n the_o matter_n teach_v be_v the_o same_o although_o the_o manner_n of_o teach_v be_v different_a both_o by_o word_n of_o mouth_n and_o by_o epistle_n s._n ambrose_n expound_v it_o thus_o thess_n thus_o in_o traditione_n evangelij_fw-la standum_fw-la ac_fw-la perseverandum_fw-la monet_fw-la ambros_n in_o 2._o thess_n he_o admonish_v they_o to_o stand_v &_o to_o persevere_v in_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o gretzer_n your_o great_a sire_n defend_v bellarmine_n defend_v this_o interpretation_n that_o it_o may_v be_v the_o same_o doctrine_n which_o s._n paul_n deliver_v by_o word_n of_o mouth_n and_o by_o epistle_n and_o give_v this_o instance_n for_o it_o 5_o it_o sicut_fw-la eadem_fw-la fides_fw-la quae_fw-la confirmata_fw-la olim_fw-la fuit_fw-la per_fw-la circumcisionem_fw-la &_o pascha_fw-la quae_fw-la nunc_fw-la confirmatur_fw-la per_fw-la baptismum_fw-la &_o coenam_fw-la gretz_n defence_n bellarm._n l._n 4._o c._n 5_o even_o as_o it_o be_v the_o same_o faith_n which_o be_v former_o confirm_v by_o circumcision_n and_o the_o passeover_n which_o be_v now_o confirm_v by_o baptism_n and_o the_o lord_n supper_n it_o be_v most_o manifest_a by_o the_o precedent_a word_n that_o the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o such_o tradition_n as_o help_v to_o keep_v out_o 3._o out_o 2._o thess_n 2._o 3._o the_o man_n of_o sin_n the_o son_n of_o perdition_n it_o can_v then_o be_v that_o he_o shall_v speak_v of_o unwritten_a tradition_n because_o popish_a tradition_n be_v the_o only_a key_n to_o let_v he_o in_o 2._o to_o prove_v the_o uniform_a consent_n of_o the_o father_n he_o first_o allege_v s._n chrysostome_n thess_n chrysostome_n chrysost_n in_fw-ge ●_o thess_n by_o this_o say_n of_o s._n paul_n it_o be_v manifest_a say_v s._n chrysostome_n that_o the_o apostle_n do_v not_o 121._o reply_v pag._n 121._o deliver_v all_o thing_n by_o their_o epistle_n but_o that_o they_o deliver_v many_o thing_n without_o writing_n which_o be_v as_o worthy_a to_o be_v believe_v as_o those_o thing_n which_o they_o leave_v write_v we_o yield_v unto_o this_o that_o the_o apostle_n have_v not_o deliver_v all_o thing_n by_o writing_n and_o i_o will_v grant_v more_o unto_o the_o jesuite_n that_o the_o apostle_n have_v not_o deliver_v all_o thing_n by_o epistle_n or_o by_o word_n of_o mouth_n which_o be_v and_o may_v be_v observe_v in_o the_o church_n as_o all_o the_o rite_n and_o ceremony_n of_o it_o and_o those_o be_v the_o thing_n of_o which_o s._n chrysostome_n speak_v of_o thing_n indifferent_a concern_v necessary_a thing_n write_v upon_o the_o same_o chapter_n these_o be_v his_o word_n ●_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d chrysost_n hom_n 3_o in_o 2._o thes_n ●_o all_o thing_n be_v clear_a and_o true_a which_o be_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n all_o necessary_a thing_n be_v manifest_a but_o that_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v not_o necessary_a and_o be_v deliver_v without_o writing_n shall_v be_v as_o worthy_a of_o faith_n as_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v write_v this_o be_v one_o of_o his_o many_o hyperbolical_a speech_n it_o be_v rather_o a_o flourish_n of_o his_o rhetoric_n than_o a_o truth_n in_o divinity_n s._n basil_n say_v 29._o say_v basil_n de_fw-fr spirit_n sanct._n c._n 29._o i_o hold_v it_o to_o be_v a_o apostolical_a doctrine_n that_o reply_n reply_n we_o adhere_v unto_o unwritten_a tradition_n in_o proof_n whereof_o he_o allege_v scripture_n the_o author_n be_v suspect_v but_o i_o pass_v by_o that_o for_o the_o present_a i_o hold_v with_o the_o author_n that_o it_o be_v fit_a to_o yield_v unto_o such_o unwritten_a tradition_n as_o he_o write_v of_o and_o those_o be_v only_o ritual_a and_o not_o doctrinal_a unto_o these_o we_o do_v yield_v not_o as_o unto_o the_o word_n of_o god_n which_o be_v of_o divine_a power_n and_o abide_v for_o ever_o but_o as_o to_o the_o law_n of_o man_n which_o be_v of_o humane_a right_n and_o mutable_a according_a unto_o time_n &_o place_n and_o in_o proof_n of_o the_o lawful_a use_n of_o those_o we_o oft_o cite_v scripture_n as_o that_o author_n do_v in_o the_o next_o place_n he_o allege_v ●_o allege_v that_o of_o epiphan_n be_v answer_v sect._n 2d._o divis_n 10._o light_v ●_o s._n hierome_n 4●_n
fabulous_a novelty_n than_o epiphanius_n especial_o in_o genealogy_n into_o which_o it_o be_v probable_a he_o be_v mislead_v through_o his_o overmuch_o love_n of_o historical_a tradition_n he_o take_v upon_o he_o to_o tell_v who_o be_v astaroth_n be_v heracles_n and_o astaroth_n melchizedecks_n father_n and_o mother_n and_o who_o be_v the_o wife_n of_o bartheno●_n of_o sanue_n asura_n bartheno●_n cain_n seth_n and_o noah_n these_o be_v some_o of_o his_o fabulous_a novelty_n ground_v upon_o tradition_n without_o any_o authority_n of_o scripture_n for_o which_o he_o deserve_v to_o be_v censure_v we_o be_v will_v rather_o to_o cover_v then_o to_o discover_v the_o nakedness_n of_o this_o father_n and_o therefore_o favourable_o interpret_v his_o word_n that_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n that_o be_v their_o preach_n and_o the_o succession_n of_o true_a doctrine_n both_o which_o be_v the_o same_o with_o the_o scripture_n be_v the_o limit_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o bound_n of_o our_o faith_n this_o be_v consonant_a with_o the_o doctrine_n of_o other_o father_n sacerdot_n father_n ●criptura_fw-la est_fw-la murn_v adamantinus_fw-la circum_fw-la vallen●●eclefiam_fw-la chrysoft_a l._n 4._o de_fw-fr sacerdot_n the_o scripture_n say_v chrysostome_n be_v a_o adamantine_a wall_n environ_v the_o church_n the_o church_n say_v hierome_n mich._n hierome_n ecclesia_fw-la non_fw-la egressa_fw-la est_fw-la de_fw-la fi●●bus_fw-la suis_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la de_fw-fr scripture_n sanctis_fw-la hiero●_n l_o ●_o c._n ●_o in_o mich._n be_v not_o go_v out_o of_o her_o bound_n that_o be_v out_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n irenaeus_n tell_v we_o first_o that_o 2._o that_o iren_n l._n 3._o c._n 2._o heretic_n can_v possible_o be_v convince_v by_o only_a scripture_n 5._o i_o tell_v you_o that_o you_o belie_v this_o father_n this_o be_v all_o that_o he_o say_v when_o heretic_n be_v convince_v by_o the_o scripture_n reply_n reply_n they_o begin_v to_o accuse_v the_o scripture_n heresy_n have_v always_o a_o obstinacy_n join_v with_o it_o this_o obstinacy_n and_o not_o the_o insufficiency_n of_o scripture_n make_v the_o heretic_n not_o submit_v unto_o it_o s._n steven_n convince_v the_o jew_n by_o the_o scripture_n and_o so_o do_v s._n paul_n the_o athenian_n yet_o malice_n make_v the_o jew_n to_o 34._o to_o act._n 7._o 34._o gnash_v with_o their_o tooth_n at_o the_o one_o and_o obstinacy_n cause_v the_o athenian_n to_o 18._o to_o act._n 17._o 18._o rail_v upon_o the_o other_o the_o scripture_n be_v sufficient_a to_o convince_v the_o whole_a rabblement_n of_o jesuite_n although_o they_o do_v as_o those_o heretic_n do_v accuse_v it_o of_o insufficiency_n when_o as_o they_o be_v convict_v by_o it_o if_o the_o scripture_n be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o convince_v heretic_n because_o they_o rail_v upon_o it_o by_o the_o same_o reason_n they_o can_v be_v convince_v by_o tradition_n for_o irenaeus_n show_v that_o they_o do_v ibidem_fw-la do_v iren_n ibidem_fw-la likewise_o oppose_v tradition_n and_o that_o they_o will_v neither_o yield_v to_o tradition_n nor_o to_o scripture_n irenaus_n have_v a_o better_a opinion_n of_o scripture_n than_o the_o romanist_n have_v he_o spend_v three_o book_n in_o his_o argument_n take_v from_o scripture_n against_o the_o heretic_n and_o not_o three_o chapter_n in_o his_o argument_n take_v from_o tradition_n erasmus_n therefore_o well_o observe_v it_o prae●●●●_n it_o solis_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la praesidiis_fw-la pug●âsse_fw-la i●en●um_fw-la adversus_fw-la catervam_fw-la h●reticorum_fw-la eras●●_n in_o epist_n ad_fw-la triden_n epist_n iren._n prae●●●●_n that_o irenaent_v fight_v against_o the_o root_n of_o heretic_n only_o with_o the_o strength_n of_o scripture_n afterward_o reckon_v up_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n from_o s._n peter_n to_o elentherius_fw-la who_o sit_v in_o his_o time_n thereby_o to_o show_v that_o there_o be_v in_o the_o church_n a_o continual_a and_o orderly_a succession_n of_o bishop_n by_o who_o divine_a and_o apostolical_a tradition_n be_v true_o preserve_v there_o be_v do_v not_o prove_v that_o there_o be_v reply_n reply_n rome_n be_v once_o 8._o once_o rom._n 1._o 8._o famous_a for_o her_o faith_n but_o now_o her_o obstinacy_n and_o apostasy_n whereof_o she_o be_v 21._o be_v rom._n 11._o 21._o forewarn_v be_v manifest_a and_o apparent_a i_o grant_v that_o from_o the_o day_n of_o s._n peter_n until_o the_o time_n of_o eleutherius_fw-la or_o iranaeus_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n preserve_v tradition_n but_o not_o such_o tradition_n as_o be_v now_o observe_v in_o that_o church_n that_o church_n then_o be_v as_o ignorant_a of_o these_o late_a invention_n as_o this_o now_o church_n be_v wide_a from_o those_o tradition_n in_o his_o second_o chapter_n he_o have_v these_o golden_a reply_n reply_n word_n they_o be_v in_o his_o four_o chapter_n see_v that_o these_o demonstration_n be_v so_o great_a we_o must_v not_o seek_v for_o that_o truth_n among_o other_o which_o we_o may_v easy_o find_v out_o in_o the_o church_n by_o other_o he_o mean_v the_o valentinian_o the_o marcionist_n and_o those_o heretic_n against_o who_o he_o dispute_v among_o these_o we_o must_v not_o seek_v for_o the_o truth_n where_o then_o in_o the_o church_n must_v we_o not_o therefore_o seek_v it_o in_o the_o scripture_n this_o be_v to_o extract_v dross_n out_o of_o irenaeus_n his_o gold_n be_v the_o church_n without_o scripture_n and_o if_o we_o find_v truth_n in_o the_o church_n can_v we_o not_o therefore_o find_v it_o in_o the_o scripture_n ibidem_fw-la scripture_n iren_n ibidem_fw-la see_v that_o the_o apostle_n have_v lay_v up_o full_o in_o she_o as_o in_o a_o reply_n reply_n rich_a store-house_n all_o whatsoever_o belong_v to_o the_o truth_n the_o preach_v and_o writing_n of_o the_o apostle_n which_o be_v the_o same_o for_o substance_n of_o doctrine_n be_v the_o endless_a treasure_n lay_v up_o in_o the_o church_n as_o in_o a_o rich_a store-house_n these_o be_v ibidem_fw-la be_v iren._n ibidem_fw-la the_o thing_n of_o the_o church_n which_o we_o must_v love_v this_o be_v the_o tradition_n of_o truth_n which_o we_o must_v lay_v hold_n of_o namely_o of_o the_o truth_n preach_v by_o the_o apostle_n deliver_v unto_o the_o church_n in_o the_o scripture_n and_o preserve_v in_o the_o church_n this_o kind_n of_o tradition_n irenaeus_n commenmend_v by_o this_o kind_n of_o tradition_n he_o condemn_v the_o heretic_n and_o this_o kind_n of_o tradition_n be_v not_o of_o unwritten_a but_o of_o write_v doctrine_n even_o of_o such_o doctrine_n as_o be_v contradict_v by_o those_o heretic_n who_o err_v in_o point_n of_o write_a doctrine_n ibidem_fw-la doctrine_n iren_n ibidem_fw-la what_o if_o there_o be_v a_o controversy_n in_o some_o small_a point_n itself_o must_v we_o not_o make_v recourse_n unto_o those_o most_o ancient_a church_n and_o receive_v from_o they_o what_o we_o hold_v to_o be_v certain_a and_o undoubted_a not_o only_o in_o small_a but_o even_o in_o the_o great_a controversy_n we_o collect_v the_o testimony_n of_o antiquity_n we_o inquire_v what_o the_o primitive_a church_n have_v teach_v even_o as_o we_o do_v in_o this_o great_a controversy_n of_o unwritten_a tradition_n and_o we_o find_v that_o the_o primitive_a church_n teach_v as_o we_o teach_v and_o therefore_o we_o hold_v it_o as_o certain_a and_o undoubted_a that_o unwritten_a tradition_n be_v to_o be_v reject_v but_o the_o last_o word_n of_o irenaeus_n ●_o irenaeus_n this_o be_v answer_v sect._n ●_o d._n ●_o what_o if_o the_o apostle_n have_v not_o leave_v we_o the_o scripture_n ●●written_a shall_v we_o not_o then_o be_v oblige_v to_o follow_v the_o rule_n of_o tradition_n deliver_v by_o they_o unto_o those_o with_o who_o they_o leave_v the_o church_n in_o charge_n these_o say_v the_o jesuite_n put_v we_o in_o mind_n of_o t●at_n i_o dare_v say_v which_o never_o come_v into_o irenaeus_n his_o mind_n that_o the_o apostle_n deliver_v some_o thing_n only_o to_o certain_a person_n which_o they_o will_v not_o have_v lay_v open_a unto_o all_o by_o write_v this_o be_v to_o corrupt_v irenaus_n to_o sophisticate_a his_o golden_a word_n and_o to_o turn_v they_o into_o dross_n there_o be_v nothing_o in_o irenaeus_n sound_v like_o unto_o this_o but_o i_o see_v as_o the_o fool_n think_v so_o the_o bell_n tinck_v if_o the_o apostle_n have_v not_o write_v then_o there_o have_v be_v unwritten_a doctrine_n and_o now_o see_v the_o apostle_n have_v write_v must_v there_o needs_o be_v still_o unwritten_a doctrine_n irenaeus_n never_o know_v other_o doctrine_n deliver_v by_o the_o rule_n of_o tradition_n then_o be_v contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n so_o paul_n to_o timothy_n 1._o timothy_n ●_o tim._n 2._o 1._o thou_o therefore_o my_o son_n be_v 1●5_n reply_v p._n 1●5_n strong_a in_o the_o grace_n that_o be_v in_o christ_n jesus_n and_o the_o thing_n that_o thou_o have_v hear_v of_o i_o by_o many_o witness_n the_o same_o commit_v thou_o to_o faithful_a man_n who_o shall_v be_v able_a to_o teach_v other_o also_o here_o
great_a sin_n for_o a_o priest_n to_o be_v marry_v to_o a_o wife_n then_o to_o live_v in_o fornication_n with_o many_o whore_n that_o it_o be_v worse_o for_o a_o layman_n not_o to_o make_v his_o auricular_a confession_n once_o in_o the_o year_n then_o to_o live_v in_o sin_n all_o the_o year_n that_o it_o be_v a_o great_a sin_n to_o eat_v flesh_n in_o lent_n then_o to_o be_v drunken_a in_o the_o lent_n and_o to_o break_v a_o saint_n day_n than_o the_o lord_n day_n these_o tradition_n be_v contrary_a and_o repugnant_a to_o the_o tru●h_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n 128._o scripture_n chrysosto●e_n and_o hierome_n answer_v sect._n 3_o di●is_fw-la ●_o rep●y_a pag._n 128._o three_o that_o our_o tradition_n do_v not_o any_o way_n derogate_v from_o the_o fullness_n or_o perfection_n of_o the_o write_a word_n 3._o tradition_n be_v addition_n to_o the_o write_a word_n if_o they_o be_v so_o than_o they_o derogate_v some_o way_n from_o the_o perfection_n of_o it_o for_o that_o that_o be_v perfect_a need_v no_o addition_n and_o this_o addition_n of_o unwritten_a doctrine_n to_o the_o write_a word_n not_o only_o cross_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o scripture_n in_o the_o general_a command_n which_o forbid_v 3●_n forbid_v ●evel_n ●●_o ●●_o ●euter_n 12_o 3●_n addition_n and_o substraction_n but_o likewise_o derogate_v from_o the_o perfection_n of_o it_o for_o if_o the_o scripture_n be_v a_o covenant_n than_o 15._o than_o gal_n ●_o 15._o no_o man_n must_v add_v unto_o it_o philip._n it_o chrysost_n hom_n 12_o in_o philip._n if_o it_o be_v a_o canon_n it_o admit_v neither_o addition_n nor_o substraction_n if_o it_o shall_v it_o cease_v to_o be_v a_o canon_n say_v ch●ysostome_n they_o rather_o bring_v unto_o we_o the_o whole_a compliment_n of_o 1●8_n reply_v pag._n 1●8_n scripture_n as_o this_o example_n follow_v will_n most_o plain_o declare_v his_o majesty_n send_v over_o into_o th●s_n kingdom_n our_o of_o his_o trusty_a counselor_n wi●h_v his_o royal_a letter_n unto_o his_o subject_n where_o in_o he_o pr●scrib●t●_n unto_o they_o not_o only_o express_v law_n himself_o but_o also_o command_v they_o to_o fulfil_v whatsoever_o shall_v be_v enjoin_v they_o by_o his_o say_a counsellor_n to_o who_o he_o have_v impart_v his_o whole_a will_n and_o pleasure_n can_v it_o be_v say_v i_o pray_v you_o that_o the_o subject_n of_o ireland_n by_o obey_v unto_o such_o thing_n as_o be_v command_v by_o the_o say_a ambassador_n do_v derogate_v any_o thing_n unto_o the_o fullness_n and_o perfection_n of_o his_o majesty_n letter_n this_o his_o royal_a argument_n like_o golia●●_n sword_n shall_v undo_v himself_o be_v it_o to_o the_o scripture_n be_v the_o royal_a ●_z or_o the_o grand_a commission_n and_o the_o church_n be_v the_o trusty_a fr●●n●_n the_o ambassador_n or_o commissioner_n now_o i_o demand_v 1._o be_v not_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o commissioner_n or_o of_o the_o ambassador_n from_o his_o commission_n or_o his_o letter_n and_o not_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o commission_n or_o letter_n from_o the_o commissioner_n or_o ambassador_n so_o if_o this_o similitude_n hold_v the_o authority_n or_o credit_n of_o the_o church_n be_v from_o the_o scripture_n and_o not_o the_o authority_n or_o credit_n of_o the_o scripture_n from_o ●he_n church_n 2._o may_v not_o a_o ambassador_n as_o many_o have_v go_v beyond_o his_o commission_n and_o deliver_v thing_n contrary_a to_o the_o trust_v commit_v to_o he_o and_o so_o become_v a_o impostor_n so_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v go_v beyond_o her_o commission_n &_o have_v deliver_v these_o thing_n which_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o write_a word_n and_o in_o this_o she_o be_v a_o grand_a impostor_n similitude_n be_v a_o weak_a foundation_n to_o uphold_v this_o pillar_n of_o tradition_n upon_o which_o the_o weight_n of_o all_o other_o controversy_n do_v depend_v especial_o such_o a_o similitude_n as_o this_o which_o want_v foot_n to_o uphold_v itself_o 1._o king_n of_o themselves_o know_v not_o all_o thing_n which_o be_v fit_a for_o their_o subject_n neither_o can_v they_o foresee_v what_o passage_n will_v happen_v between_o their_o commissioner_n and_o their_o people_n and_o therefore_o they_o be_v force_v to_o leave_v many_o thing_n to_o the_o discretion_n of_o their_o ambassador_n but_o it_o be_v not_o so_o with_o the_o king_n of_o king_n he_o have_v reveal_v all_o thing_n necessary_a for_o his_o people_n to_o the_o penman_n of_o scripture_n and_o they_o according_a to_o that_o revelation_n have_v write_v all_o thing_n 1_o thing_n aristot_n de_fw-fr rhetor._n l._n 1._o c._n 1_o the_o best_a law_n say_v aristotle_n determine_v all_o thing_n themselves_o and_o leave_v very_o little_a to_o the_o discretion_n of_o the_o judge_n the_o law_n of_o god_n be_v the_o best_a and_o the_o most_o perfect_a law_n how_o then_o can_v there_o be_v so_o many_o and_o so_o great_a thing_n leave_v to_o the_o discretion_n of_o the_o church_n 2._o the_o law_n of_o kingdom_n be_v subject_a to_o mutation_n and_o addition_n so_o that_o his_o majesty_n may_v send_v over_o commissioner_n for_o this_o purpose_n but_o the_o law_n of_o god_n be_v a_o 6._o a_o revel_v 14._o 6._o eternal_a gospel_n the_o faith_n of_o the_o church_n be_v 3._o be_v jude_n vers_fw-la 3._o at_o once_o deliver_v unto_o the_o saint_n in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n as_o it_o be_v here_o confess_v by_o the_o jesuite_n in_o these_o letter_n it_o be_v true_a he_o have_v express_v his_o law_n and_o commandment_n himself_o yet_o forasmuch_o as_o all_o thing_n be_v not_o so_o manifest_o therein_o describe_v that_o our_o feeble_a understanding_n may_v attain_v unto_o the_o knowledge_n of_o his_o heavenly_a will_n by_o the_o same_o alone_a he_o himself_o command_v we_o to_o be_v rule_v by_o his_o church_n can_v any_o protestant_a say_v more_o god_n himself_o have_v express_v his_o law_n and_o commandment_n in_o the_o scripture_n and_o again_o all_o thing_n be_v therein_o describe_v though_o not_o so_o manifest_o this_o i_o confess_v do_v not_o derogate_v from_o the_o perfection_n of_o scripture_n but_o it_o over-throweth_a the_o jesuite_n and_o his_o cause_n because_o all_o thing_n be_v therein_o describe_v and_o there_o be_v only_o require_v the_o interpretation_n of_o thing_n obscure_a which_o no_o protestant_n deny_v because_o all_o thing_n be_v not_o therein_o so_o manifest_o describe_v 4._o the_o truth_n have_v convince_v the_o jesuite_n yet_o malice_n have_v set_v his_o wit_n a_o rave_a and_o his_o tongue_n a_o rail_n on_o his_o adversary_n of_o most_o gross_a vanity_n of_o great_a madness_n of_o ostentation_n and_o of_o not_o touch_v the_o point_n at_o all_o but_o who_o can_v with_o patience_n endure_v to_o hear_v this_o animal_n bray_v thus_o it_o seem_v he_o be_v touch_v to_o the_o quick_a and_o that_o make_v he_o kick_v as_o if_o he_o be_v mad_a if_o he_o be_v not_o it_o be_v because_o his_o own_o conscience_n be_v past_a feel_n and_o yet_o he_o take_v upon_o he_o to_o be_v the_o judge_n of_o a_o other_o man_n conscience_n he_o that_o cit_v scripture_n more_o for_o show_v then_o to_o purpose_n tax_v his_o answerer_n for_o allege_v so_o little_a scriptur●●●_n 〈◊〉_d 119._o reply_v pag._n 119._o and_o to_o so_o little_a purpose_n for_o bring_v in_o his_o proof_n out_o of_o scripture_n so_o scant_o who_o sometime_o be_v puff_v up_o with_o no_o thing_n but_o scripture_n the_o roman_a tradition_n monger_n have_v learn_v the_o trick_n of_o the_o jewish_a cabalist_n to_o call_v those_o of_o the_o adverse_a part_n scripturian_o or_o man_n puff_v up_o with_o scripture_n call_v they_o as_o you_o will_v i_o have_v rather_o be_v fill_v with_o scripture_n then_o with_o the_o puft-paste_n of_o tradition_n or_o the_o puftcrust_n of_o humane_a invention_n neither_o be_v the_o most_o reverend_a primate_n to_o be_v blame_v for_o allege_v in_o this_o point_n but_o a_o few_o text_n of_o scripture_n because_o brevity_n be_v the_o thing_n which_o he_o intend_v in_o the_o begin_n of_o this_o worke._n if_o he_o allege_v but_o one_o text_n to_o the_o purpose_n chrysostome_n plead_v a●●othe●_n 1_o chryso●●●_n hom_n ●6_n ad_fw-la ●●pul_n a●●othe●_n his_o excuset●_n what_o have_v i_o to_o do_v with_o multitude_n i_o have_v rather_o have_v one_o p●●●ious_a 〈◊〉_d th●●_n many_o half_a 〈◊〉_d and_o i_o think_v a_o judicious_a reader_n will_v like_v better_o of_o his_o little_a to_o great_a purpose_n then_o of_o the_o jesuite_n great_a deal_n to_o little_a purpose_n but_o it_o be_v to_o little_a purpose_n for_o first_o that_o text_n of_o matth._n 15._o in_o vain_a do_v they_o worship_v i_o teach_v for_o doctrine_n 119._o reply_v pag._n 119._o the_o commandment_n of_o man_n be_v far_o from_o prove_v any_o thing_n against_o we_o see_v that_o by_o it_o only_o such_o humane_a traditious_a be_v reprove_v a●_n be_v repugnant_a to_o the_o law_n of_o god_n 5._o jewish_a tradition_n
among_o christian_n we_o can_v easy_o have_v show_v not_o only_o the_o grandfather_n of_o this_o doctrine_n to_o be_v heretic_n among_o the_o christian_n but_o also_o that_o the_o s●ducers_n among_o the_o jew_n be_v the_o great_a grand_a father_n of_o it_o in_o a_o book_n of_o they_o call_v pirke_n aboth_o capitula_fw-la patrum_fw-la we_o read_v thus_o god_n give_v by_o moses_n not_o only_o the_o write_a law_n but_o also_o a_o unwritten_a law_n and_o 1._o and_o peres_n de_fw-fr tradit_fw-la eccle_n part_v 2._o asse●_n 1._o peresius_n cit_v this_o out_o of_o rabbi_n moses_n that_o god_n give_v unto_o moses_n several_a doctrine_n by_o word_n of_o mouth_n beside_o the_o write_a law_n which_o moses_n deliver_v to_o joshua_n joshua_n to_o the_o 70._o elder_n the_o 70._o elder_n to_o the_o prophet_n and_o the_o prophet_n to_o the_o chief_a of_o the_o synagogue_n these_o tradition_n the_o apostle_n condemn_v as_o 25._o as_o i●en_n l._n 4._o e._n 25._o iren●u●_n declare_v not_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n but_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o elder_n corrupt_v the_o law_n of_o moses_n be_v condemn_v by_o they_o these_o be_v condemn_v by_o the_o prophet_n 13._o prophet_n isa●_n 29._o 13._o as_o doctrine_n ●f_a man_n even_o then_o when_o the_o ceremonial_a law_n be_v of_o force_n and_o these_o be_v receive_v in_o the_o day_n of_o s._n peter_n not_o from_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n but_o 18_o but_o 1._o pet._n 1._o 18_o by_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o father_n namely_o those_o seducer_n among_o the_o hebrowe_n neither_o do_v s._n hicro●●_n in_o that_o epistle_n cite_v this_o t●xt_n at_o all_o &_o therefore_o his_o word_n be_v here_o impertinent_o allege_v short_o after_o they_o start_v up_o other_o heretic_n who_o teach_v answer_n answer_n that_o 2._o that_o iren._n l._n 3._o c._n 2._o the_o truth_n can_v not_o be_v find_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n by_o those_o to_o who_o tradition_n be_v unknown_a for_o as_o much_o as_o it_o be_v not_o deliver_v by_o writing_n but_o by_o word_n of_o mouth_n for_o which_o cause_n s._n paul_n also_o shall_v say_v we_o speak_v wisdom_n among_o they_o that_o be_v perfect_a this_o stick_v so_o close_o unto_o the_o jesuite_n that_o with_o all_o his_o idle_a shift_n he_o can_v shake_v it_o off_o ●●_o he_o answer_v ex_fw-la concessis_fw-la those_o heretic_n be_v so_o 153_o reply_v pag._n 153_o mad_a as_o to_o say_v that_o they_o be_v wise_a than_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o etc._n etc._n how_o then_o can_v they_o have_v any_o part_n with_o we_o who_o ad●it_v all_o apostolical_a doctrine_n 3._o be_v you_o not_o likewise_o tell_v that_o all_o of_o they_o do_v not_o break_v forth_o into_o that_o open_a impiety_n some_o of_o they_o and_o not_o all_o of_o they_o be_v so_o mad_a as_o to_o say_v they_o be_v wise_a than_o the_o apostle_n and_o you_o may_v be_v stare_v though_o not_o stark_o mad_a do_v you_o admit_v all_o apostolical_a doctrine_n why_o then_o do_v you_o not_o admit_v the_o communion_n sub_fw-la utrâ●_n specie_fw-la the_o inconstant_a council_n of_o constance_n see_v good_a reason_n to_o take_v away_o the_o cup_n and_o to_o make_v it_o a_o dry_a feast_n although_o as_o the_o 13._o the_o council_n constan_n sess_n 13._o council_n confess_v christ_n appoint_v it_o and_o the_o primitive_a church_n use_v it_o this_o declare_v that_o you_o be_v as_o bad_a as_o the_o worst_a and_o as_o mad_a as_o the_o mad_a heretic_n that_o ever_o be_v how_o can_v you_o do_v this_o to_o make_v a_o new_a law_n contrary_a to_o the_o law_n give_v by_o christ_n observe_v by_o the_o apostle_n and_o by_o the_o primitive_a church_n if_o in_o this_o point_n you_o do_v not_o think_v yourselves_o wise_a than_o the_o primitive_a church_n than_o the_o apostle_n yea_o then_o christ_n himself_o cardinal_n hosius_n break_v forth_o into_o this_o impiety_n 9●_n impiety_n hosius_n confess_v petricovi●●s●_n de_fw-fr tradit_fw-la 9●_n that_o the_o church_n which_o now_o be_v have_v more_o reveal_v unto_o it_o than_o be_v reveal_v unto_o the_o apostle_n and_o thus_o the_o same_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n which_o wrought_v in_o the_o forerunner_n of_o antichrist_n th●●_n be_v discover_v in_o his_o minister_n now_o his_o second_o shift_n be_v to_o put_v the_o heretic_n upon_o we_o you_o be_v in_o the_o same_o predicament_n with_o those_o heretic_n in_o deny_v unwritten_a tradition_n whatsoever_o can_v be_v prove_v to_o have_v be_v deliver_v by_o the_o apostle_n either_o by_o writing_n or_o by_o word_n of_o mouth_n we_o deny_v it_o not_o we_o willing_o receive_v what_o soever_o be_v true_o a_o apostolical_a tradition_n but_o 〈…〉_o nomine_fw-la it_o be_v you_o that_o be_v in_o the_o same_o predica●●●●_n for_o we_o can_v evident_o prove_v it_o and_o our_o ●4_n our_o council_n constan_n ses_fw-fr 13._o bellarm._n l._n 4._o de_fw-fr sacram._n lucharist_n c._n ●4_n adversary_n confess_v it_o that_o the_o church_n receive_v this_o write_a tradition_n from_o the_o apostle_n and_o do_v likewise_o observe_v it_o to_o administer_v the_o cup_n in_o the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n this_o apostolical_a tradition_n deliver_v both_o by_o writing_n &_o by_o word_n of_o mouth_n be_v little_o count_v of_o by_o you_o and_o therefore_o you_o may_v take_v up_o your_o stand_n among_o those_o heretic_n and_o enter_v your_o name_n in_o catalog●_n hareticorum_fw-la his_o last_o shift_n be_v this_o this_o holy_a father_n ir●n●us_n be_v accustom_v 153_o reply_v pag._n 153_o to_o urge_v the_o heretic_n with_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n which_o be_v preserve_v in_o the_o church_n by_o the_o succession_n of_o priest_n and_o if_o he_o be_v now_o alive_a he_o will_v as_o earnest_o ●rge_v you_o with_o the_o same_o looly_a tradition_n with_o what_o weapon_n irenaus_n fight_v against_o the_o heretic_n we_o have_v 5_o have_v sect._n 4._o diu._n 5_o already_o show_v tradition_n be_v either_o write_v or_o unwritten_a unwritten_a tradition_n be_v the_o heretic_n plea_n they_o speak_v disgraceful_o of_o the_o scripture_n that_o they_o be_v obscure_a may_v be_v diver_n sly_a interpret_v can_v not_o be_v understand_v without_o tradition_n and_o that_o tradition_n be_v before_o they_o the_o same_o spirit_n possess_v our_o adversary_n as_o if_o those_o heretic_n by_o some_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v transform_v into_o they_o against_o these_o heretic_n iren●●●_n fight_v first_o by_o the_o scripture_n then_o when_o they_o appeal_v unto_o tradition_n he_o fight_v against_o they_o by_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n preserve_v in_o the_o church_n if_o iren●us_o be_v alive_a he_o need_v not_o ●rge_a i●_n against_o we_o we_o urge_v it_o against_o you_o we_o be_v now_o upon_o trial_n by_o it_o we_o say_v that_o we_o follow_v the_o tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n preserve_v in_o the_o church_n that_o be_v the_o succession_n of_o true_a doctrine_n in_o the_o church_n as_o it_o be_v contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n but_o what_o be_v this_o to_o popish_a tradition_n they_o be_v not_o from_o the_o apostle_n they_o be_v not_o contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n nor_o preserve_v in_o the_o church_n but_o only_o maintain_v contrary_a to_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n as_o they_o be_v of_o old_a by_o heretic_n so_o in_o latter_a time_n by_o a_o antichristian_a faction_n they_o confess_v indeed_o as_o witness_v tertullian_n 25._o tertullian_n tertul._n de_fw-fr pr●scrip●_n c._n 25._o that_o the_o apostle_n answer_n answer_n be_v ignorant_a of_o nothing_o and_o differ_v not_o among_o themselves_o in_o their_o preach_n but_o they_o say_v they_o reveal_v not_o all_o thing_n unto_o all_o man_n some_o thing_n they_o deliver_v open_o &_o to_o all_o some_o thing_n secret_o and_o to_o a_o few_o because_o that_o paul_n use_v this_o sp●●ch_n unto_o timothy_n o_o timothy_n keep_v that_o which_o be_v commit_v to_o thy_o trust_n and_o again_o that_o good_a thing_n which_o be_v commit_v unto_o thou_o keep_v i_o confess_v in_o one_o thing_n our_o adversary_n be_v not_o like_o th●se_a heretick●s_n they_o confess_v that_o the_o apostle_n be_v ignorant_a of_o nothing_o but_o our_o adversary_n hold_v this_o that_o there_o be_v more_o reveal_v unto_o the_o church_n which_o now_o be_v than_o be_v reveal_v unto_o the_o apostle_n as_o we_o have_v hear_v from_o hosius_n the_o cardinal_n set_v aside_o that_o part_n of_o the_o testimony_n in_o all_o thing_n elf_n they_o be_v as_o like_v those_o heretic_n as_o if_o they_o have_v be_v spit_v out_o of_o their_o mouth_n and_o therefore_o lest_o their_o agreement_n shall_v be_v discover_v the_o jesuite_n in_o his_o wisdom_n think_v it_o the_o best_a way_n not_o to_o lay_v down_o these_o word_n of_o the_o answerer_n but_o only_o to_o return_v a_o blind_a answer_n unto_o they_o it_o be_v confess_v that_o tertullian_n be_v a_o maintainer_n of_o unwritten_a 154_o reply_v pag._n
of_o they_o forty_o day_n and_o speak_v to_o they_o of_o the_o thing_n appertain_v to_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n can_v any_o man_n tell_v where_o those_o thing_n be_v write_v which_o our_o saviour_n speak_v all_o those_o forty_o day_n 9_o all_o be_v not_o at_o all_o in_o the_o text_n neither_o be_v it_o true_a that_o our_o saviour_n speak_v all_o those_o forty_o day_n the_o text_n tell_v we_o of_o what_o he_o speak_v namely_o of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n and_o have_v not_o 23._o not_o act._n 28._o 23._o moses_n and_o the_o prophet_n write_v of_o this_o do_v not_o the_o gospel_n and_o the_o epistle_n treat_v of_o this_o it_o be_v of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n therefore_o it_o be_v not_o of_o popish_a tradition_n popish_a tradition_n be_v of_o meat_n but_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n be_v not_o of_o 17._o of_o rom._n 14._o 17._o meat_n it_o be_v profitable_a to_o know_v all_o that_o our_o saviour_n speak_v because_o he_o never_o speak_v in_o vain_a but_o it_o be_v necessary_a for_o we_o to_o know_v all_o it_o be_v less_o necessary_a to_o know_v where_o the_o thing_n be_v write_v which_o 119._o reply_v pag._n 119._o he_o speak_v at_o such_o and_o such_o a_o time_n it_o be_v enough_o to_o know_v that_o there_o be_v joh._n be_v cyrill_n l._n 12._o ●●_o joh_n c._n 68_o aug_n tract_n 19_o in_o joh._n enough_o write_v of_o all_o christ_n word_n and_o work_n for_o our_o salvation_n and_n our_o lord_n before_o his_o passion_n tell_v his_o disciple_n that_o 1●_n that_o joh._n 16._o 1●_n he_o have_v many_o thing_n to_o say_v unto_o they_o which_o then_o they_o can_v not_o comprehend_v but_o shall_v learn_v they_o after_o of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n yet_o none_o of_o they_o ever_o write_v what_o those_o many_o thing_n be_v s._n augustine_n tell_v we_o that_o joh._n that_o omnes_fw-la in●●plentistimi_fw-la haeretici_fw-la and_o act_n as_o sigmentorum_fw-la suorum_fw-la colorare_fw-la occasione_n ejus_fw-la sententis_fw-la adhuc_fw-la ●●lta_fw-la habe●_n etc._n etc._n aug._n tract_n 97_o in_o joh._n all_o foolish_a heretic_n use_v to_o colour_v their_o bold_a fiction_n with_o this_o say_n i_o have_v yet_o many_o thing_n to_o say_v unto_o you_o thus_o s._n augustine_n put_v both_o the_o fool_n and_o the_o heretic_n upon_o the_o jesuite_n 1._o jesuite_n lenseus_n l._n 3._o de_fw-la verbo_fw-la dei_fw-la non_fw-la script_n c._n 1._o lenseus_n who_o eye_n be_v as_o good_a as_o the_o jesuit_n profess_v that_o he_o can_v see_v nothing_o in_o this_o text_n for_o unwritten_a tradition_n but_o we_o deal_v with_o a_o jesuite_n who_o can_v see_v further_o into_o a_o millstone_n then_o a_o other_o and_o make_v himself_o wise_a than_o the_o apostle_n understand_v what_o those_o thing_n be_v which_o the_o apostle_n can_v not_o comprehend_v i_o may_v better_o conclude_v this_o of_o he_o that_o he_o never_o write_v this_o reply_n himself_o because_o he_o can_v not_o do_v it_o until_o he_o go_v over_o sea_n for_o help_n then_o he_o can_v conclude_v of_o the_o apostle_n that_o they_o write_v not_o all_o thing_n because_o they_o be_v not_o able_a to_o understand_v all_o thing_n until_o they_o go_v to_o jerusalem_n to_o receive_v the_o promise_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n it_o be_v more_o than_o he_o be_v able_a to_o prove_v that_o the_o thing_n which_o christ_n and_o the_o holy_a ghost_n teach_v the_o apostle_n be_v not_o the_o same_o 15._o same_o joh._n 15._o 15._o christ_n teach_v they_o all_o thing_n which_o he_o hear_v of_o his_o father_n but_o at_o the_o first_o they_o be_v not_o so_o ripe_a of_o 9_o of_o joh._n 20._o 9_o understanding_n nor_o so_o tenacious_a of_o 22._o of_o joh._n 2._o 22._o memory_n as_o they_o be_v afterward_o the_o holy_a ghost_n therefore_o first_o open_v their_o understanding_n not_o teach_v they_o any_o new_a thing_n but_o 16._o but_o jansen_n in_o joh._n c._n 16._o by_o a_o new_a way_n more_o full_o open_v their_o understanding_n say_v jansenius_n they_o be_v not_o teach_v 16._o teach_v aquin_n in_o joh_n c._n 16._o altiora_fw-la sed_fw-la altiord_n mode_n say_v aquinas_n and_o afterward_o bring_v 26._o bring_v joh_n 14._o 26._o those_o thing_n to_o their_o memory_n which_o christ_n first_o teach_v they_o so_o that_o we_o say_v with_o cyrill_n 16._o cyrill_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cyril_n catech_v 16._o christ_n do_v not_o teach_v one_o thing_n and_o the_o holy_a ghost_n a_o other_o thing_n but_o the_o very_a same_o thing_n and_o the_o 4._o the_o 1_o joh._n 1._o 3._o 4._o same_o thing_n they_o may_v write_v afterward_o although_o they_o do_v not_o comprehend_v they_o at_o the_o first_o and_n eusebius_n relate_v of_o s._n polycarpe_n 20._o polycarpe_n euseb_n l_o 5._o c._n 20._o that_o he_o make_v know_v some_o word_n speak_v by_o our_o saviour_n which_o be_v not_o record_v 119_o reply_v pag._n 119_o in_o scripture_n 10._o this_o be_v a_o silly_a shift_n to_o argue_v à_fw-fr verbis_fw-la ad_fw-la res_fw-la from_o word_n to_o doctrine_n we_o dispute_v of_o doctrine_n but_o the_o jesuite_n first_o fly_v unto_o thing_n as_o in_o the_o title_n of_o this_o section_n appear_v from_o thing_n again_o he_o fly_v unto_o word_n he_o say_v eusebius_n say_v that_o word_n that_o for_o eusebius_n relate_v irenaeus_n his_o word_n irenaeus_n say_v that_o polycarpe_n say_v that_o christ_n speak_v some_o word_n not_o record_v in_o the_o scripture_n this_o be_v a_o verbal_a argument_n this_o be_v to_o shrink_v quite_o from_o the_o question_n be_v any_o man_n so_o mad_a as_o to_o say_v that_o all_o the_o word_n be_v record_v in_o scripture_n which_o our_o saviour_n speak_v or_o will_v any_o wise_a man_n infer_v that_o all_o the_o doctrine_n which_o he_o teach_v be_v not_o write_v because_o all_o the_o word_n which_o he_o speak_v be_v not_o record_v let_v he_o be_v record_v for_o a_o ass_n that_o argue_v so_o this_o irenaeus_n say_v of_o polycarpus_n ibidem_fw-la polycarpus_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d euseb_n ibidem_fw-la polycarpus_n speak_v all_o thing_n consonant_a with_o the_o scripture_n any_o truth_n be_v not_o dissonant_n from_o the_o scripture_n as_o that_o malone_n be_v a_o jesuite_n but_o this_o be_v not_o consonant_a with_o the_o scripture_n only_o those_o thing_n be_v call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v the_o same_o or_o be_v speak_v of_o the_o same_o thing_n as_o thucydides_n &_o diodorus_n siculus_n be_v say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o be_v consonant_a because_o both_o have_v write_v the_o same_o of_o the_o same_o namely_o of_o the_o peloponnesian_n war_n the_o thing_n then_o which_o polycarpus_n speak_v be_v consonant_n with_o the_o scripture_n can_v not_o be_v any_o unwritten_a tradition_n which_o be_v plain_o dissonant_n to_o the_o scripture_n &_o either_o cross_a the_o truth_n or_o the_o perfection_n of_o they_o the_o occasion_n why_o irenaeus_n allege_v the_o word_n of_o polycarpus_n be_v because_o both_o he_o &_o florinus_n the_o heretic_n against_o who_o he_o dispute_v have_v hear_v the_o doctrine_n which_o polycarpus_n deliver_v which_o be_v consonant_n with_o the_o scripture_n &_o not_o because_o the_o heresy_n which_o florinus_n hold_v that_o god_n create_v evil_a nature_n can_v not_o be_v convince_v by_o scripture_n 2d_o scripture_n just_a martyr_n apolog._n 2d_o justin_n martyr_n likewise_o lay_v down_o many_o unwritten_a 109._o reply_v pag._n 109._o tradition_n deliver_v by_o our_o saviour_n unto_o his_o disciple_n when_o he_o appear_v unto_o they_o upon_o the_o day_n of_o his_o resurrection_n these_o thing_n say_v he_o christ_n deliver_v unto_o his_o disciple_n and_o he_o show_v what_o those_o thing_n be_v that_o the_o christian_n must_v meet_v together_o to_o sanctify_v the_o lord_n day_n this_o be_v a_o point_n deliver_v unto_o we_o in_o the_o ●_o the_o act._n ●0_n 7._o 1._o cor._n 16._o ●_o scripture_n that_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n must_v go_v before_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n this_o be_v likewise_o teach_v we_o in_o the_o 42._o the_o act._n 2._o 42._o scripture_n that_o the_o communion_n must_v be_v give_v unto_o none_o unless_o that_o they_o have_v be_v baptize_v the_o same_o have_v sufficient_a warrant_n in_o the_o 13._o the_o 1._o cor._n 12._o 13._o scripture_n all_o the_o rest_n of_o which_o he_o write_v be_v either_o doctrinal_a point_n write_v or_o ●i●uall_a point_n unwritten_a which_o belong_v not_o to_o this_o present_a controversy_n but_o what_o say_v you_o to_o the_o apostle_n s._n john_n and_o s._n paul_n s._n 120_o reply_v pag._n 120_o john_n will_v not_o commit_v all_o 1●_n all_o ●_o epist_n verse_n 1●_n to_o paper_n and_o ink_n and_o s._n paul_n give_v unwritten_a commandment_n to_o the_o corinthian_n 2._o corinthian_n 1._o cor._n 11._o 2._o praise_v they_o because_o th●y_v keep_v such_o precept_n as_o he_o deliver_v unto_o they_o and_o again_o 23._o again_o verse_n 23._o i_o receive_v
as_o may_v sometime_o deceive_v a_o man_n and_o therefore_o though_o the_o exposition_n be_v true_a yet_o how_o can_v i_o be_v as_o sure_o that_o it_o be_v true_a as_o i_o be_o that_o s._n johns_n gospel_n be_v canonical_a i_o like_v better_o of_o that_o say_n of_o marsilius_n 19_o marsilius_n dict_n a_o christi_fw-la five_o dei_fw-la non_fw-la vera_fw-la sunt_fw-la causaliter_fw-la ●o_o quod_fw-la ●i●dem_fw-la testificatur_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la catholica_fw-la vero_fw-la testimonio_fw-la sed_fw-la testimonium_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la causaliter_fw-la verum_fw-la est_fw-la dum_fw-la dicit_fw-la dicta_fw-la christi_fw-la vera_fw-la propte●_n ve●tatem_fw-la dictorum_fw-la christi_fw-la marsil_n desensor_n pacis_fw-la part_n 2._o cap._n 19_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n or_o of_o god_n be_v not_o therefore_o make_v true_a because_o the_o catholic_n church_n by_o a_o true_a testimony_n give_v her_o testimony_n unto_o they_o but_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o church_n be_v therefore_o true_a when_o she_o speak_v the_o true_a word_n of_o christ_n because_o of_o the_o truth_n of_o christ_n word_n and_n as_o s._n augustine_n say_v 5._o say_v august_n count_v epist_n fundament_n c._n 5._o that_o he_o beleevea_fw-mi the_o gospel_n 114._o reply_v pag._n 114._o by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n so_o be_v we_o to_o believe_v the_o tradition_n which_o the_o church_n propound_v unto_o we_o as_o the_o word_n of_o god_n 2._o i_o wish_v our_o adversary_n to_o consider_v two_o thing_n which_o make_v the_o meaning_n of_o s._n augustine_n most_o evident_a 1._o that_o s._n augustine_n speak_v of_o the_o primitive_a church_n d●_n church_n augustinus_n ibidem_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la sumit_fw-la pro●_n primitive_a congregatione_fw-la fidelium_fw-la qui_fw-la christum_fw-la viderunt_fw-la audierunt_fw-la &_o svi_fw-la testes_fw-la suerunt_fw-la gerson_n de_fw-fr vitâ_fw-la spirit_n lect_v 2_o d●_n s._n augustine_n say_v gerson_n in_o that_o place_n take_v the_o church_n for_o the_o primitive_a congregation_n of_o the_o faithful_a who_o do_v see_v hear_v and_o be_v witness_n of_o christ_n what_o be_v this_o to_o the_o now_o roman_a church_n have_v you_o the_o same_o power_n and_o authority_n which_o that_o church_n have_v your_o own_o driedo_n tell_v you_o no._n 4._o no._n ecclesia_fw-la primitiva_fw-la propter_fw-la collegium_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la majoris_fw-la erat_fw-la gratiae_fw-la majorisque_fw-la authoritatis_fw-la quam_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la quaenunc_fw-la est_fw-la driedo_n de_fw-fr dogma_fw-la l._n ●_o c._n 4._o the_o primitive_a church_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o college_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v of_o great_a grace_n and_o of_o great_a authority_n than_o the_o church_n which_o now_o be_v if_o the_o jesuite_n speak_v of_o the_o tradition_n deliver_v by_o that_o church_n we_o refuse_v they_o not_o let_v he_o prove_v this_o or_o that_o to_o be_v a_o tradition_n deliver_v by_o the_o apostle_n and_o we_o will_v believe_v it_o but_o if_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o now_o roman_a church_n his_o argument_n be_v of_o no_o force_n and_o as_o s._n augustine_n believe_v not_o the_o gospel_n by_o the_o authority_n of_o that_o church_n so_o we_o will_v not_o believe_v the_o tradition_n teach_v by_o she_o 2._o that_o this_o be_v the_o occasion_n why_o he_o allege_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n s._n augustine_n have_v be_v for_o nine_o year_n a_o manichee_n and_o now_o have_v to_o deal_v with_o the_o manichee_n to_o convert_v they_o he_o propound_v unto_o they_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n to_o move_v they_o even_o as_o in_o the_o time_n of_o his_o heresy_n it_o move_v he_o this_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o time_n past_a i_o have_v not_o believe_v the_o gospel_n if_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n have_v not_o move_v i_o but_o afterward_o be_v convert_v and_o make_v a_o bishop_n he_o make_v a_o better_a confession_n say_v 5._o say_v i_o be_o credere_fw-la coeperam_fw-la nullo_n modo_fw-la te_fw-la fuisse_fw-la tributurum_fw-la tam_fw-la excellen_v tem_fw-la illi_fw-la scripturae_fw-la per_fw-la omnes_fw-la jam_fw-la terras_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la nisi_fw-la per_fw-la ipsam_fw-la tibi_fw-la credi_fw-la &_o per_fw-la ipsam_fw-la te_fw-la quaeri_fw-la volu●sses_n aug._n confess_v l._n ●_o c._n 5._o now_o i_o begin_v to_o believe_v that_o thou_o will_v not_o have_v give_v so_o excellent_a authority_n unto_o the_o scripture_n itself_o ●ver_o the_o whole_a world_n but_o that_o by_o it_o thou_o will_v be_v believe_v and_o by_o it_o thou_o will_v be_v seek_v this_o be_v all_o that_o can_v be_v gather_v out_o of_o s._n augustine_n that_o the_o church_n be_v a_o good_a motive_n to_o persuade_v man_n to_o believe_v the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o not_o that_o it_o be_v such_o a_o doctor_n that_o can_v give_v such_o law_n as_o shall_v be_v equal_a with_o the_o word_n of_o god_n s._n augustine_n confess_v that_o he_o have_v a_o other_o motive_n to_o persuade_v he_o to_o believe_v beside_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n 11._o church_n she_o carthagine_v motum_fw-la esse_fw-la disputatione_n cujusdam_fw-la elpidij_fw-la cvi_fw-la manich●i_fw-la imbe●illa_fw-la responsione_n restiterint_fw-la august_n confess_v l._n 5._o c_o 11._o be_v at_o carthage_n he_o be_v move_v to_o believe_v by_o the_o disputation_n of_o one_o elpidius_n who_o argument_n the_o manichee_n be_v not_o able_a to_o answer_v but_o every_o mover_n be_v not_o a_o lawgiver_n 1._o lawgiver_n 1._o pet._n 3._o 1._o the_o honest_a conversation_n of_o the_o wife_n may_v move_v the_o husband_n to_o believe_v must_v he_o therefore_o believe_v whatsoever_o she_o shall_v say_v i_o may_v aswell_o infer_v thus_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o jew_n move_v we_o to_o believe_v the_o old_a testament_n therefore_o we_o must_v believe_v their_o cabbala_n their_o masore_v and_o all_o their_o unwritten_a tradition_n we_o be_v willing_a to_o 21._o to_o math._n 22._o 21._o give_v unto_o cesar_n the_o thing_n which_o be_v caesar_n and_o unto_o god_n the_o thing_n which_o be_v god_n and_o therefore_o we_o give_v unto_o the_o church_n the_o ministry_n to_o allure_v we_o and_o to_o move_v we_o to_o believe_v the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o to_o the_o scripture_n the_o dignity_n and_o authority_n to_o be_v the_o only_a word_n of_o god_n if_o the_o church_n be_v bind_v not_o only_o to_o preserve_v the_o sacred_a 124_o reply_v pag_n 124_o writing_n but_o also_o to_o deliver_v the_o form_n of_o wholesome_a doctrine_n contain_v in_o they_o why_o shall_v she_o not_o be_v likewise_o bind_v to_o preserve_v the_o sacred_a tradition_n and_o to_o deliver_v the_o form_n of_o wholesome_a doctrine_n in_o they_o contain_v and_o why_o shall_v not_o we_o receive_v they_o upon_o her_o credit_n 3._o if_o unwritten_a tradition_n have_v be_v commit_v to_o her_o trust_n there_o be_v no_o doubt_n but_o that_o she_o ought_v to_o preserve_v they_o and_o to_o deliver_v they_o as_o she_o receive_v they_o to_o keep_v nothing_o back_o but_o to_o deliver_v the_o whole_a counsel_n of_o god_n and_o to_o teach_v the_o form_n of_o wholesome_a doctrine_n whether_o write_v or_o unwritten_a but_o unwritten_a tradition_n be_v no_o wholesome_a doctrine_n they_o be_v part_n of_o that_o poisonous_a potion_n that_o bewitch_a doctrine_n which_o be_v in_o the_o golden_a cup_n of_o that_o glorious_a religion_n for_o outward_a show_n of_o the_o scarlet_a colour_a beast_n of_o rome_n and_o though_o it_o be_v true_a that_o the_o church_n receive_v unwritten_a tradition_n and_o that_o she_o be_v bind_v to_o teach_v they_o yet_o how_o can_v i_o be_v assure_v that_o this_o or_o that_o be_v a_o true_a tradition_n as_o sure_a as_o i_o be_o of_o any_o write_a article_n of_o my_o faith_n that_o christ_n die_v i_o believe_v because_o the_o scripture_n say_v it_o that_o this_o be_v a_o tradition_n you_o believe_v it_o because_o a_o father_n the_o father_n or_o the_o church_n say_v it_o can_v a_o man_n believe_v that_o testimony_n which_o may_v be_v false_a as_o sure_a as_o he_o beleive_v that_o cvi_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la subesse_fw-la falsum_fw-la no_o humane_a testimony_n can_v beget_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o full_a assurance_n which_o a_o divine_a testimony_n do_v 7._o do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n clemons_n alex._n strom._n 1._o 7._o we_o regard_v not_o a_o humane_a testimony_n let_v we_o confirm_v the_o question_n by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n which_o be_v the_o sure_a demonstration_n yea_o the_o only_a demonstration_n say_v clemens_n of_o alexandria_n it_o be_v 19_o be_v 2._o pet._n 1._o 19_o more_o sure_a than_o the_o testimony_n of_o man_n and_o of_o angel_n epiphanius_n lay_v down_o these_o for_o the_o limit_n and_o bound_n 125_o reply_v pag._n 125_o of_o our_o faith_n 55._o faith_n epiph_n h●res_v 55._o apostolical_a tradition_n and_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o the_o succession_n of_o doctrine_n by_o which_o god_n truth_n be_v fortify_v on_o every_o side_n that_o no_o man_n shall_v be_v deceive_v with_o fabulous_a novelty_n 4._o none_o of_o the_o ancient_n be_v more_o deceive_v with_o
lord_n god_n of_o israel_n have_v enter_v by_o it_o and_o so_o be_v many_o of_o our_o adversary_n who_o defend_v that_o she_o vow_v perpetual_a virginity_n by_o these_o word_n 34._o word_n luc._n 1._o 34._o how_o shall_v this_o be_v see_v i_o know_v not_o man_n that_o sunday_n ought_v to_o be_v keep_v holy_a reply_n reply_n 14._o this_o be_v a_o doctrine_n warrant_v by_o the_o scripture_n s._n augustine_n think_v that_o it_o be_v tipisied_a 13._o tipisied_a august_n epist_n 1_o 9_o add_v ●an●a●_n ●_o 13._o by_o the_o ●ight_a day_n appoint_v for_o circumcision_n and_o that_o it_o be_v teach_v by_o christ_n resurrection_n upon_o that_o day_n we_o find_v in_o scripture_n that_o it_o be_v call_v 10._o call_v revel_v 1._o 10._o the_o lord_n day_n and_o upon_o this_o rib●●_n observe_v that_o i_o may_v oppose_v one_o jesuite_n to_o another_o that_o which_o this_o jesuite_n can_v see_v 1._o see_v videmus_fw-la hic_fw-la etiam_fw-la tempore_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la sabbathi_o solemnitatem_fw-la mutatam_fw-la esse_fw-la in_o die●_n dominicum_fw-la riber_n in_o apoc._n c._n 1._o we_o see_v even_o here_o that_o in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o apostle_n the_o sabbath_n be_v change_v into_o the_o lord_n day_n we_o find_v that_o day_n ordain_v by_o s._n paul_n for_o 1._o for_o 1._o cor._n 16._o 1._o holy_a duty_n so_o chrysostome_n ambrose_n remigius_n primasius_n and_o many_o other_o expound_v that_o place_n and_o we_o find_v the_o observance_n of_o it_o 7._o it_o act._n ●0_n 7._o by_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o in_o preach_v of_o the_o word_n and_o administer_a of_o the_o sacrament_n upon_o that_o day_n that_o easter_n day_n be_v celebrate_v always_o upon_o sunday_n 126._o reply_v pag._n 126._o 15._o it_o be_v a_o decent_a order_n in_o the_o church_n to_o observe_v the_o feast_n of_o easter_n and_o there_o be_v no_o day_n fit_a than_o sunday_n for_o it_o but_o we_o deny_v the_o observe_n of_o it_o upon_o sunday_n upon_o another_o day_n or_o upon_o any_o day_n to_o be_v a_o point_n of_o faith_n it_o be_v only_o a_o custom_n or_o ordinance_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o come_v not_o within_o the_o compass_n of_o this_o question_n 22._o question_n controversia_fw-la de_fw-la die_fw-la paschatis_fw-la diu_fw-la ●eterum_fw-la ecclesias_fw-la exercuit_fw-la socrat._v l._n 5._o c._n 22._o this_o question_n about_o easter_n day_n say_v socrates_n trouble_v the_o church_n a_o long_a while_n the_o church_n of_o asia_n unto_o which_o s._n john_n write_v plead_v his_o tradition_n for_o the_o 14._o day_n other_o church_n observe_v sunday_n allege_v the_o tradition_n of_o peter_n and_o paul_n at_o the_o last_o it_o be_v determine_v in_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a that_o it_o shall_v be_v keep_v upon_o sunday_n not_o as_o if_o it_o be_v a_o point_n of_o faith_n but_o because_o it_o be_v a_o decent_a order_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &c_n &c_n it_o be_v a_o comely_a order_n say_v constantine_n in_o his_o letter_n write_v to_o the_o bishop_n that_o be_v absent_a which_o the_o church_n of_o the_o west_n north_n and_o south_n do_v observe_v and_o epiphanius_n say_v of_o the_o audian_o anacephal_a audian_o epiphan_n in_o anacephal_a they_o be_v of_o the_o same_o faith_n in_o all_o thing_n with_o the_o catholic_a church_n and_o yet_o they_o keep_v the_o passeover_n as_o do_v the_o jew_n and_n true_o they_o that_o deny_v this_o to_o be_v sound_a doctrine_n can_v reply_n reply_n possible_o have_v any_o sure_a ground_n for_o their_o faith_n for_o how_o can_v they_o prove_v that_o they_o have_v any_o word_n of_o god_n at_o all_o but_o only_o by_o the_o tradition_n and_o authority_n of_o holy_a church_n how_o will_v they_o know_v which_o book_n of_o scripture_n be_v canonical_a which_o not_o &_o c_o how_o shall_v those_o heretic_n be_v disprove_v who_o deny_v the_o canticle_n the_o four_o gospel_n &_o c_o how_o shall_v those_o five_o gospel_n attribute_v unto_o thady_n thomas_n barnaby_n bartholomew_n and_o andrew_n be_v disprove_v &c_n &c_n but_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n why_o then_o do_v he_o condemn_v such_o tradition_n 16._o such_o tradition_n we_o condemn_v not_o in_o the_o state_v of_o this_o question_v it_o do_v appear_v that_o we_o allow_v modum_fw-la tradendi_fw-la the_o manner_n of_o delivery_n of_o the_o volume_n of_o god_n write_v word_n by_o the_o authority_n or_o testimony_n of_o the_o church_n and_o all_o this_o concern_v the_o manner_n of_o delivery_n in_o this_o the_o jesuite_n not_o only_o bely_v our_o doctrine_n but_o also_o shrink_v from_o the_o question_n he_o shall_v prove_v that_o unwritten_a tradition_n be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n but_o he_o go_v about_o to_o prove_v that_o by_o a_o unwritten_a tradition_n namely_o by_o the_o authority_n and_o testimony_n of_o the_o church_n a_o man_n may_v know_v that_o there_o be_v a_o word_n of_o god_n and_o which_o book_n be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o which_o be_v not_o all_o question_n be_v not_o to_o be_v dispute_v of_o say_v 9_o say_v aristot_n l._n 1._o topic._n c._n 9_o aristotle_n of_o all_o thing_n this_o be_v most_o sure_a and_o aught_o to_o be_v believe_v that_o the_o scripture_n be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n as_o he_o that_o 6._o that_o heb●_n 11._o 6._o will_v come_v to_o god_n must_v first_o believe_v that_o god_n be_v so_o he_o that_o will_v come_v to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o god_n word_n must_v first_o believe_v that_o there_o be_v a_o word_n of_o god_n and_o that_o the_o scripture_n be_v this_o word_n to_o doubt_v of_o this_o be_v to_o deny_v a_o most_o sure_a principle_n and_o to_o dispute_v of_o this_o be_v to_o take_v away_o the_o very_a ground_n of_o this_o question_n if_o this_o question_n be_v give_v whether_o heaven_n cover_v all_o thing_n if_o the_o opponent_n shall_v argue_v thus_o it_o do_v not_o cover_v itself_o therefore_o it_o do_v not_o cover_v all_o thing_n we_o will_v judge_v he_o a_o silly_a sophister_n the_o trifle_a jesuite_n dispute_v after_o the_o same_o manner_n the_o scripture_n do_v not_o discover_v all_o point_n of_o faith_n because_o it_o do_v not_o discover_v itself_o to_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n but_o this_o point_n be_v except_v by_o the_o question_n itself_o for_o when_o the_o scripture_n say_v 27._o say_v 1._o cor._n 15._o 27._o that_o all_o thing_n be_v put_v down_o under_o he_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o he_o be_v except_v which_o do_v put_v down_o all_o thing_n under_o he_o so_o when_o we_o say_v that_o the_o scripture_n declare_v all_o point_n of_o faith_n it_o be_v manifest_a that_o this_o be_v except_v it_o need_v not_o declare_v itself_o to_o be_v the_o scripture_n or_o the_o word_n of_o god_n as_o the_o first_o good_a be_v to_o belove_a for_o itself_o so_o the_o first_o truth_n be_v to_o be_v believe_v for_o itself_o say_v scent_n say_v aquinas_n in_o prologue_n in_o scent_n aquinas_n the_o scripture_n be_v account_v among_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o be_v believe_v for_o themselves_o yea_o they_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d most_o worthy_a of_o belief_n be_v like_o principle_n in_o a_o art_n which_o oportet_fw-la discentem_fw-la credere_fw-la the_o learner_n must_v believe_v as_o 115._o as_o basil_n in_o psal_n 115._o bafill_v say_v so_o that_o in_o this_o disputation_n this_o must_v be_v datum_fw-la a_o thing_n grant_v and_o take_v pro_fw-la concesso_fw-la that_o the_o scripture_n be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n 5._o god_n august_n confess●l_n 6._o c._n 5._o hear_v they_o not_o say_v s._n augustine_n who_o demand_n how_o do_v you_o know_v the_o scripture_n to_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n for_o that_o be_v a_o thing_n to_o be_v believe_v yet_o we_o will_v be_v content_a to_o answer_v this_o foolish_a demand_n and_o to_o show_v by_o what_o mean_v we_o know_v which_o book_n be_v canonical_a and_o which_o be_v counterfeit_a we_o know_v the_o scripture_n to_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n by_o those_o argument_n which_o we_o find_v in_o they_o they_o need_v not_o testify_v for_o themselves_o but_o it_o be_v to_o be_v presuppose_v as_o a_o pracognitum_n that_o they_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n yet_o they_o bear_v witness_n for_o themselves_o the_o scripture_n be_v a_o witness_n to_o itself_o say_v 2._o say_v testis_fw-la est_fw-la ipsa_fw-la scriptura_fw-la bellarm_n the_o verb_n dei_fw-la ●_o 1_o c._n 2._o bellarmine_n dei_fw-la bellarmine_n humana_fw-la dicta_fw-la argumentis_fw-la &_o testibus_fw-la cge●●_n d●i_fw-la au●em_fw-la sermo_fw-la ipse_fw-la sibi_fw-la testis_fw-la est_fw-la salvian_n de_fw-fr gubernat●_n dei_fw-la humane_a say_n say_v salvian_n need_v argument_n and_o witness_n but_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v a_o witness_n to_o itself_o ●_o itself_o scotus_n in_o prolog_n in_o l._n 1._o send_v q._n ●_o scotus_n prove_v it_o by_o eight_o argument_n take_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n itself_o the_o
which_o i_o will_v brief_o repeat_v by_o the_o majesty_n of_o the_o speaker_n by_o the_o title_n of_o the_o book_n by_o the_o power_n of_o the_o doctrine_n in_o the_o conscience_n by_o the_o simplicity_n and_o purity_n of_o the_o stile_n by_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o prediction_n by_o the_o agreement_n in_o all_o thing_n though_o write_v by_o sundry_a person_n in_o sundry_a place_n and_o at_o sundry_a time_n by_o the_o perfection_n of_o it_o and_o by_o the_o testimony_n which_o our_o saviour_n give_v unto_o the_o 27._o the_o luc._n 24._o 27._o old_a testament_n 16._o testament_n 2._o pet._n ●_o 16._o s._n peter_n to_o the_o epistle_n of_o s._n paul_n and_o s._n paul_n to_o the_o whole_a 17._o whole_a 2._o tim._n 3._o 17._o scripture_n by_o all_o these_o it_o be_v more_o than_o probable_a and_o credible_a that_o the_o scripture_n be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n these_o be_v sufficient_a argument_n to_o beget_v a_o acquire_v faith_n in_o any_o man_n if_o the_o 4._o the_o 2._o cor._n 4._o 4._o god_n of_o this_o world_n have_v not_o blind_v his_o eye_n so_o that_o he_o can_v 1●_n can_v psal_n 119._o 1●_n see_v the_o wonderful_a thing_n contain_v in_o the_o law_n the_o natural_a man_n be_v blind_a and_o 14._o and_o 1._o cor._n 2._o 14._o perceive_v not_o the_o thing_n of_o god_n by_o his_o active_a understanding_n neither_o can_v he_o conceive_v they_o by_o his_o passive_a understanding_n although_o they_o be_v most_o evident_o reveal_v and_o therefore_o god_n work_v in_o his_o own_o a_o infuse_a faith_n and_o open_v their_o eye_n that_o they_o may_v see_v and_o believe_v this_o truth_n there_o be_v 80._o be_v in_o scripture_n est_fw-la sol_fw-la justitiae_fw-la august_n in_o psal_n 80._o in_o the_o scripture_n the_o sun_n of_o righteousness_n as_o s._n augustine_n say_v a_o blind_a man_n can_v see_v this_o sun_n no_o more_o than_o a_o blind_a man_n can_v see_v the_o sun_n in_o the_o heaven_n as_o therefore_o the_o eye_n of_o the_o body_n must_v be_v light_n that_o it_o may_v see_v the_o sun_n so_o must_v the_o eye_n of_o the_o soul_n be_v spiritual_o illuminate_v that_o it_o may_v see_v this_o sun_n of_o righteousness_n this_o be_v wrought_v outward_o by_o the_o word_n which_o 8._o which_o psal_n 19_o 8._o give_v light_n unto_o the_o eye_n and_o inward_o by_o the_o spirit_n which_o 11._o which_o 1._o cor._n 2._o 11._o only_o know_v the_o thing_n of_o god_n and_o work_v this_o by_o 1._o by_o origen_n de_fw-fr principijs_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 1._o work_v upon_o the_o spirit_n and_o the_o understanding_n as_o ovigen_n say_v and_o when_o the_o heart_n be_v purify_v that_o a_o man_n do_v the_o will_n of_o god_n than_o he_o shall_v 17._o shall_v joh._n 7._o 17._o know_v whether_o the_o doctrine_n be_v of_o god_n or_o no._n and_o as_o a_o friend_n know_v the_o voice_n of_o his_o friend_n so_o the_o spouse_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o sheep_n of_o christ_n know_v his_o 4._o his_o cant._n ●_o ●_o joh._n 10._o 4._o voice_n these_o be_v the_o mean_n by_o which_o we_o know_v the_o scripture_n to_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n by_o which_o we_o know_v what_o book_n be_v canonical_a and_o which_o be_v counterfeit_a and_o for_o the_o manifestation_n of_o this_o truth_n we_o do_v likewise_o allow_v the_o testimony_n of_o the_o church_n these_o caution_n remember_v 1._o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o church_n be_v one_o but_o not_o the_o only_a mean_n he_o that_o know_v the_o sun_n to_o be_v the_o sun_n only_o because_o he_o be_v tell_v so_o and_o he_o that_o know_v his_o horse_n to_o be_v his_o horse_n only_o because_o the_o ostler_n tell_v he_o so_o be_v as_o wise_a a_o man_n as_o he_o that_o know_v not_o the_o scripture_n to_o be_v the_o scripture_n but_o only_o because_o holy_a church_n tell_v he_o so_o i_o will_v demand_v one_o thing_n of_o this_o jesuite_n if_o a_o man_n deny_v the_o scripture_n will_v he_o not_o convince_v he_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n which_o testify_v for_o the_o scripture_n and_o if_o he_o deny_v the_o testimony_n of_o the_o church_n will_v he_o not_o convince_v he_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n which_o testify_v for_o the_o church_n thus_o be_v he_o force_v to_o dance_v in_o a_o circle_n and_o in_o the_o end_n to_o bring_v all_o conclusion_n to_o be_v prove_v by_o the_o scripture_n we_o rather_o hold_v that_o the_o scripture_n be_v the_o only_a mean_n to_o know_v the_o church_n by_o then_o that_o the_o church_n be_v the_o only_a mean_n whereby_o to_o know_v the_o scripture_n so_o say_v the_o author_n of_o the_o imperfect_a work_n upon_o matthew_n 49._o matthew_n ante●_n multis_fw-la modis_fw-la ●stendeba●ur_fw-la quae_fw-la esset_fw-la ecclesia_n christ_n &_o quae_fw-la gentilitas_fw-la nun●_n autem_fw-la nullo_n modo_fw-la cognos_fw-la citu●_n volentibus_fw-la cog●oscere_fw-la quae_fw-la sit_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la christ●_n nisi_fw-la tantummodò_fw-la per_fw-la scripturas_fw-la hom._n 49._o in_o former_a time_n there_o be_v many_o way_n whereby_o to_o know_v which_o be_v the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o which_o be_v gentilism_n but_o now_o if_o a_o man_n will_v know_v which_o be_v the_o church_n of_o christ_n the_o scripture_n be_v the_o only_a mean_n whereby_o to_o know_v it_o and_o s._n augustine_n show_v we_o where_o we_o must_v seek_v for_o the_o church_n 16_o church_n in_o pr●scripto_o legis_fw-la in_fw-la pro_fw-la phetarum_fw-la praedictis_fw-la in_o psal_n morum_fw-la ●antibu●_n in_o ipsius_fw-la pastoris_fw-la vocibus_fw-la in_fw-la evargelistarum_fw-la praedicationibus_fw-la &_o laboribus_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la in_fw-la omnibus_fw-la canonicis_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la librorum_fw-la authorita●ibus_fw-la aug._n de_fw-fr unitat_fw-la eccles_n c._n 16_o in_o the_o prescript_n of_o the_o law_n in_o the_o prediction_n of_o the_o prophet_n in_o the_o psalm_n in_o the_o word_n of_o the_o pastor_n himself_o in_o the_o sermon_n and_o labour_n of_o the_o apostle_n that_o be_v in_o the_o canonical_a authority_n of_o the_o holy_a bible_n 2._o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n be_v a_o mean_n to_o declare_v which_o be_v the_o canonical_a scripture_n but_o not_o to_o make_v the_o scripture_n canonical_a as_o he_o that_o declare_v ignatius_n to_o be_v canonize_v for_o a_o saint_n do_v not_o thereby_o canonize_v he_o it_o be_v a_o good_a argument_n not_o a_o priori_fw-la but_o à_fw-la posteriori_fw-la as_o when_o the_o goldsmith_n declare_v the_o gold_n to_o be_v good_a but_o the_o romanist_n speak_v most_o disgraceful_o of_o the_o scripture_n prolegom_n scripture_n scripturas_fw-la valere_fw-la quantum_fw-la fabulae_fw-la aesopi_n si_fw-la destituantur_fw-la authoritate_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la he●man_n apud_fw-la breut_n in_o prolegom_n that_o the_o scripture_n be_v no_o better_a than_o aesopes_n fable_n if_o they_o want_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n and_o without_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n 12_o church_n se_fw-la non_fw-la plus_fw-la fidei_fw-la adhibiturum_fw-la quam_fw-la tito_n livio_n gul._n bailius_n catech._n contr_n tract_n 1._o q_o 12_o they_o will_v believe_v they_o no_o more_o than_o titus_n livy_n thus_o i_o have_v make_v good_a my_o promise_n and_o have_v run_v the_o wild_a goose_n chase_v after_o this_o gagler_n in_o these_o three_o section_n who_o at_o last_o see_v his_o fault_n that_o all_o this_o while_n he_o have_v answer_v nothing_o that_o have_v be_v object_v confess_v that_o it_o be_v time_n for_o he_o to_o examine_v the_o scripture_n which_o be_v produce_v against_o unwritten_a tradition_n in_o reexamine_v of_o what_o he_o have_v examine_v it_o shall_v be_v make_v manifest_a that_o sect_n v._o the_o jesuite_n use_v most_o silly_a shift_n in_o answer_v the_o scripture_n which_o be_v produce_v against_o unwritten_a tradition_n the_o three_o observation_n gather_v by_o the_o jesuite_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o this_o section_n be_v already_o answer_v and_o therefore_o i_o need_v not_o actum_fw-la agere_fw-la yet_o i_o will_v be_v content_a to_o give_v they_o a_o touch_v answer_n first_n the_o tradition_n which_o we_o maintain_v 127._o reply_v p._n 127._o can_v be_v say_v to_o be_v precept_n or_o commandment_n of_o man_n but_o of_o god_n himself_o forasmuch_o as_o they_o proceed_v immediate_o from_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n 1._o be_v your_o ecclesiastical_a tradition_n immediate_o from_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n your_o solemn_a baptise_v of_o bell_n your_o friday_n fast_a and_o the_o like_a can_v you_o prove_v their_o original_n to_o be_v immediate_o from_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n second_o that_o the_o like_o our_o tradition_n be_v not_o any_o 128._o reply_v pag._n 128._o way_n contrary_a or_o repugnant_a to_o the_o truth_n of_o holy_a scripture_n 2._o there_o be_v neither_o sense_n nor_o truth_n in_o this_o observation_n the_o like_a our_o tradition_n be_v not_o be_v none_o sense_n not_o contrary_a to_o the_o truth_n of_o holy_a scripture_n be_v contrary_a to_o the_o truth_n that_o it_o be_v a_o
be_v not_o more_o repugnant_a to_o the_o law_n of_o god_n then_o popish_a be_v ye●_n even_o to_o every_o commandment_n that_o title_n give_v to_o the_o pope_n 〈◊〉_d d●●●●oster_n papa_n the_o lord_n 〈◊〉_d god_n the_o pope_n be_v repugnant_a to_o the_o 1._o that_o image_n be_v to_o be_v worship_v i●_n repugnant_a to_o the_o 2._o that_o unwritten_a tradition_n do_v supply_v the_o defect_n of_o the_o write_a word_n be_v adi●●●on_v our_o to_o it_o and_o repugnant_a to_o the_o 3._o that_o a_o saint_n day_n be_v more_o due_o to_o be_v observe_v then_o the_o lord_n 〈◊〉_d i●_n repugnant_a to_o the_o 4._o that_o a_o man_n may_v give_v his_o good_n unto_o the_o church_n and_o let_v his_o parent_n starve_v ●●_o repugnant_a to_o they_o that_o ●n_o some_o ●ases_v the_o subject_n may_v kill_v his_o king_n be_v repugnant_a to_o the_o 6._o that_o the_o stew_n may_v be_v permit_v and_o priest_n allow_v their_o concubine_n be_v repugnant_a to_o the_o 7._o that_o religious_a person_n may_v ensise_v and_o steal_v such_o child_n from_o their_o parent_n as_o will_v be_v fit_a for_o their_o turn_n be_v repugnant_a to_o the_o 8._o the_o doctrine_n of_o aequivocation_n be_v repugnant_a to_o the_o 9_o and_o that_o lust_n without_o consent_n be_v no_o sin_n be_v repugnant_a to_o the_o last_o can_v these_o be_v repugnant_a to_o the_o scripture_n and_o be_v tradition_n deduce_v by_o sound_a inference_n from_o the_o scripture_n this_o the_o jesuite_n affirm_v of_o they_o his_o reason_n be_v the_o scripture_n command_v we_o to_o obey_v the_o church_n and_o 130._o reply_v pag._n 130._o the_o holy_a ghost_n teach_v the_o church_n all_o truth_n and_o christ_n be_v present_a with_o his_o church_n unto_o the_o world_n ●nd_n and_o he_o that_o hear_v the_o church_n hear_v god_n and_o the_o scripture_n command_v tradition_n and_o command_v we_o to_o hold_v fast_o what_o the_o apostle_n have_v deliver_v with●●●_n writing_n and_o the_o church_n in_o all_o age_n have_v teach_v unwritten_a tradition_n etc._n etc._n this_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d his_o ●●ckow_n song_n and_o all_o these_o text_n of_o scripture_n we_o have_v already_o ●_o already_o sect._n ●_o answer_v this_o be_v a_o budget_n wide_a enough_o to_o hold_v all_o the_o trash_n of_o romish_a tradition_n it_o be_v his_o gladius_fw-la delphicus_fw-la which_o serve_v for_o all_o use_n if_o this_o argument_n be_v find_v there_o need_v no_o more_o scripture_n than_o this_o obey_v the_o church_n this_o give_v you_o power_n quid●●b●●_n addend●_fw-la to_o say_v what_o you_o listen_v and_o it_o will_v bear_v you_o out_o but_o it_o be_v a_o false_a argument_n consist_v of_o quatuor_fw-la termini_fw-la for_o the_o scripture_n speak_v of_o one_o church_n and_o the_o jesuite_n of_o a_o other_o the_o scripture_n commend_v write_v tradition_n and_o the_o jesuite_n be_v all_o for_o unwritten_a tradition_n the_o holy_a scripture_n not_o only_o be_v able_a to_o make_v we_o 3._o we_o ●_o tim._n 3._o wise_a answer_n answer_n unto_o salvation_n which_o they_o shall_v not_o be_v able_a to_o do_v if_o they_o do_v not_o contain_v all_o thing_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n but_o also_o by_o 〈…〉_o of_o god_n that_o be_v the_o 11._o the_o 1._o tim._n 6._o 11._o minister_n of_o god_n word_n 〈◊〉_d who_o i●_n 〈◊〉_d to_o 27._o to_o act._n 20._o 27._o declare_v all_o the_o counsel_n of_o god_n may_v be_v perfect_o instruct_v to_o every_o good_a work_n which_o can_v not_o be_v if_o the_o scripture_n do_v not_o contain_v all_o the_o counsel_n of_o god_n which_o be_v sit_v for_o he_o to_o learn_v or_o if_o there_o be_v any_o other_o word_n of_o god_n which_o he_o be_v bind_v to_o teach_v that_o shall_v not_o be_v contuine_v within_o the_o limit_n of_o the_o book_n of_o god._n thus_o say_v the_o answerer_n the_o jesuite_n will_v willing_o write_v he_o himself_o out_o of_o these_o word_n he_o wind_v and_o turn_v himself_o every_o way_n like_o a_o eel_n that_o be_v take_v he_o snatch_v and_o catch_v like_o a_o man_n ready_a to_o be_v drown_v y●t_o every_o thing_n that_o come_v in_o his_o way_n his_o first_o shift_n be_v this_o there_o be_v no_o such_o say_n in_o the_o apostle_n writing_n as_o this_o 131._o reply_v pag._n 131._o the_o scripture_n be_v able_a to_o make_v we_o wise_a unto_o salvation_n he_o say_v indeed_o that_o they_o be_v able_a to_o make_v timothy_n wise_a un●o_o salvation_n ●t_a less●_n he_o will_v say_v th●●_n whatsoever_o s._n paul_n affirm_v of_o timothy_n may_v be_v apply_v unto_o we_o all_o which_o be_v most_o absurd_a for_o who_o will_v say_v that_o the_o apostle_n 23._o apostle_n 1._o tim._n 5._o 23._o forbid_v timothy_n to_o drink_v water_n do_v thereby_o forbid_v we_o all_o in_o like_a manner_n 6._o there_o be_v not_o the_o least_o word_n in_o scripture_n speak_v of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o of_o tradition_n but_o our_o adversary_n do_v apply_v it_o general_o unto_o themselves_o only_a this_o because_o it_o concern_v the_o power_n of_o the_o scripture_n must_v be_v peculiar_a unto_o timothy_n and_o not_o apply_v unto_o all_o but_o evil_n shall_v not_o the_o scripture_n be_v as_o able_a to_o make_v we_o at_o timothy_n wise_a into_o salvation_n either_o it_o must_v be_v because_o he_o have_v better_a mean_n to_o be_v make_v wise_a than_o we_o have_v or_o because_o have_v the_o same_o mean_n he_o be_v more_o to_o 〈◊〉_d of_o this_o wisdom_n not_o the_o first_o if_o it_o be_v true_a which_o the_o jesuite_n observe_v that_o timothy_n 〈◊〉_d only_o the_o old_a testament_n 〈◊〉_d we_o have_v both_o the_o old_a and_o the_o 18._o the_o 1._o cor._n 2._o 14._o psal_n 119_o 18._o new_a nor_o the_o second_o because_o the_o understanding_n be_v alike_o corrupt_v in_o all_o 〈◊〉_d it_o be_v not_o ●_o capable_a of_o this_o save_a wisdom_n until_o god_n ●_o 〈…〉_o it_o and_o this_o 〈◊〉_d of_o his_o absure_n instance_n of_o timothyes_n not_o drink_v 〈◊〉_d which_o declare_v his_o brain_n to_o be_v as_o weak_a u_fw-mi timothyes_n stomach_n because_o all_o stomack●_n ar●_n not_o ●ike_o weak_a but_o all_o men●_n understanding_n until_o they_o be_v sanctify_v be_v alike_o wicked_a and_o uncapable_a of_o holy_a thing_n what_o therefore_o s._n paul_n here_o affirm_v of_o timothy_n may_v be_v apply_v unto_o all_o and_o it_o be_v apply_v unto_o all_o by_o chrysostome_n on_o this_o text_n say_v very_o the_o apostle_n speak_v this_o of_o timothy_n ●●th_v therapy_a admonish_v all_o man_n his_o second_o shift_n be_v this_o though_o we_o shall_v grant_v this_o that_o the_o scripture_n be_v 1●1_n reply_v pag._n 1●1_n able_a to_o make_v we_o wise_a unto_o salvation_n yet_o be_v do_v not_o follow_v from_o thence_o that_o they_o contain_v express_o all_o thing_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n 7._o express_o be_v a_o express_a lie_n a_o addition_n of_o his_o own_o for_o the_o answerers_n inference_n be_v this_o therefore_o they_o contain_v all_o thing_n necessary_a for_o salvation_n now_o thing_n be_v contain_v in_o scripture_n not_o only_o express_o but_o like_o wise_a by_o inference_n his_o three_o shift_n be_v this_o it_o be_v confess_v the_o chief_a of_o our_o adversary_n that_o the_o 131_o reply_v pag._n 131_o apostle_n in_o that_o place_n mean_v none_o other_o but_o the_o old_a testament_n only_o as_o himself_o declare_v plaint_n enough_o thou_o have_v learn_v the_o holy_a scripture_n of_o a_o child_n which_o be_v able_a to_o make_v thou_o wise_a and_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v not_o write_v when_o timothy_n be_v a_o child_n and_o will_v our_o answerer_n grant_v that_o the_o old_a testament_n alone_o contain_v all_o thing_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n then_o consequent_o the_o new_a testament_n i●●●●d●lesse_a 8._o it_o be_v the_o better_a for_o our_o cause_n if_o the_o apostle_n h●●re_o speak_v only_o of_o the_o old_a testament_n that_o it_o be_v able_a to_o make_v in_o wise_a unto_o salvation_n for_o then_o both_o old_a and_o new_a be_v join_v together_o must_v needs_o contain_v all_o thing_n 〈…〉_o salvation_n it_o be_v confess_v that_o when_o timothy_n be_v a_o child_n he_o learn_v only_o the_o old_a testament_n and_o then_o the_o new_a be_v not_o write_v but_o 〈◊〉_d when_o paul_n write_v this_o ●_o 6._o ●_o 1._o thr●_n 4._o 6._o epistle_n unto_o he_o he_o be_v a_o 〈◊〉_d he_o be_v bishop_n of_o ephesus_n this_o epistle_n be_v write_v he_o a_o little_a before_o s._n paul_n death_n and_o then_o all_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v write_v but_o only_o that_o which_o 〈◊〉_d add_v if_o i_o shall_v say_v of_o a_o old_a judge_n that_o he_o have_v know_v 〈◊〉_d of_o a_o young_a student_n this_o do_v not_o exclude_v his_o knowledge_n of_o such_o lawe●_n as_o be_v make_v in_o after_o time_n so_o s._n paul_n speech_n of_o timothy_n that_o he_o know_v the_o scripture_n of_o a_o child_n do_v
therefore_o though_o they_o be_v glorious_a thing_n in_o your_o eye_n they_o be_v not_o holy_a that_o of_o origen_n which_o the_o jesuite_n allege_v concern_v the_o baptise_n of_o child_n that_o it_o be_v a_o tradition_n from_o the_o apostle_n be_v 11._o be_v sect._n 4._o divis_fw-la 11._o former_o answer_v hippolytus_n the_o martyr_n in_o his_o three_o homily_n against_o the_o heresy_n of_o noetus_n there_o be_v one_o god_n who_o we_o do_v not_o otherwise_o answer_n answer_n acknowledge_v but_o out_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n for_o as_o he_o that_o will_v profess_v the_o wisdom_n of_o this_o world_n can_v otherwise_o attain_v hereunto_o unless_o he_o read_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o philosopher_n s●_n whosoever_o of_o we_o will_v exercise_v piety_n towards_o god_n can_v learn_v this_o elsewhere_o but_o out_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n etc._n etc._n all_o this_o run_v upon_o the_o same_o strain_n with_o that_o which_o 13●_n reply_v pag._n 13●_n you_o even_o now_o produce_v out_o of_o origen_n and_o therefore_o as_o you_o repeat_v the_o same_o so_o we_o return_v you_o the_o same_o answer_n and_o withal_o we_o desire_v you_o with_o this_o holy_a martyr_n to_o understand_v whatsoever_o the_o scripture_n do_v teach_v for_o they_o teach_v you_o to_o hold_v such_o tradition_n as_o the_o apostle_n give_v whether_o by_o writing_n or_o by_o word_n they_o teach_v you_o to_o hearken_v unto_o the_o church_n 4._o hippolytus_n here_o take_v the_o same_o oath_n with_o origen_n &_o both_o give_v their_o verdict_n against_o unwritten_a tradition_n this_o be_v the_o same_o strain_n upon_o which_o they_o run_v his_o answer_n unto_o that_o of_o origen_n be_v already_o confute_v &_o if_o this_o be_v the_o same_o as_o indeed_o it_o be_v no_o wise_a than_o the_o former_a but_o threadbare_a and_o wear_v out_o at_o the_o elbow_n i_o need_v not_o again_o confute_v it_o it_o can_v fit_v with_o the_o word_n of_o this_o holy_a martyr_n for_o as_o it_o be_v ridiculous_a to_o say_v the_o wisdom_n of_o this_o world_n may_v be_v attain_v unto_o by_o read_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o philosopher_n &_o then_o to_o interpret_v this_o not_o immediate_o by_o read_v their_o writing_n but_o mediate_o by_o go_v to_o the_o live_a philosopher_n so_o it_o be_v as_o absurd_a to_o say_v our_o piety_n towards_o god_n may_v be_v learn_v out_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n &_o then_o to_o interpret_v this_o not_o immediate_o out_o of_o the_o scripture_n themselves_o but_o mediate_o by_o go_v to_o the_o church_n yea_o it_o be_v more_o absurd_a because_o the_o writing_n of_o the_o philosopher_n be_v not_o so_o well_o able_a to_o make_v a_o man_n wise_a for_o the_o world_n as_o the_o scripture_n be_v to_o make_v a_o man_n wise_a unto_o salvation_n the_o scripture_n teach_v we_o to_o ●●ld_v such_o tradition_n as_o the_o apostle_n give_v but_o they_o teach_v the_o same_o doctrine_n both_o by_o scripture_n and_o by_o word_n of_o mouth_n this_o make_v nothing_o for_o popish_a tradition_n such_o the_o apostle_n never_o give_v by_o writing_n or_o by_o word_n of_o mouth_n they_o teach_v we_o to_o hearken_v unto_o the_o church_n when_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n be_v consonant_a with_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o scripture_n and_o not_o to_o hearken_v unto_o the_o church_n when_o it_o tea●heth_v otherwise_o 16._o otherwise_o jen_fw-fr ●3_n 16._o thus_o say_v the_o lord_n of_o host_n harken_v not_o unto_o the_o word_n of_o the_o prophet_n that_o prophesy_v unto_o you_o and_o teach_v you_o vanity_n they_o speak_v the_o vision_n of_o their_o own_o heart_n and_o not_o out_o of_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o lord_n athanasius_n in_o his_o ●ratian_n against_o the_o gentile_n the_o holy_a answer_v ●_o answer_v scripture_n give_v by_o inspiration_n of_o god_n be_v of_o themselves_o sufficient_a for_o the_o discovery_n of_o truth_n 5._o this_o be_v a_o evident_a testimony_n direct_o opposite_a to_o the_o position_n of_o our_o adversary_n which_o they_o have_v learn_v from_o condemn_a heretic_n 2._o heretic_n iren._n l._n 3._o c._n 2._o that_o truth_n cannot_v be_v find_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n by_o they_o that_o be_v ignorant_a of_o tradition_n and_o yet_o the_o jesuite_n paint_v this_o likewise_o with_o false_a colour_n answer_v first_o the_o scripture_n discover_v this_o truth_n that_o we_o must_v 139._o reply_v p._n 139._o ●old_a fast_o unwritten_a tradition_n we_o have_v oft_o discover_v this_o to_o be_v a_o untruth_n and_o for_o the_o better_a discovery_n of_o it_o we_o will_v observe_v one_o thing_n more_o from_o the_o force_n of_o the_o greek_a word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o athanasius_n use_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v not_o a_o mediate_a sufficiency_n as_o if_o the_o scripture_n be_v sufficient_a for_o the_o discovery_n of_o truth_n because_o they_o send_v we_o to_o the_o church_n nor_o such_o a_o sufficiency_n as_o need_v any_o other_o help_n as_o if_o the_o scripture_n be_v sufficient_a for_o the_o discovery_n of_o truth_n by_o have_v the_o help_n of_o unwritten_a tradition_n join_v with_o they_o but_o as_o lambine_v in_o his_o note_n upon_o aristotle_n ethic_n observe_v 7._o observe_v plur●bus_fw-la ver●●is_fw-la haec_fw-la vox_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cvi_fw-la nulla_fw-la respondet_fw-la latina_n est_fw-la de_fw-la claranda_fw-la est_fw-la autem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v qui_fw-la ●●s_o bonis_fw-la contentur_fw-la satisque_fw-la copiosè_fw-la instructus_fw-la est_fw-la quique_fw-la nullas_fw-la externas_fw-la opes_fw-la desiderat_fw-la lamb._n in_o arislot_n ethic._n ●●_o c._n 7._o this_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d must_v be_v express_v by_o more_o word_n for_o there_o be_v no_o one_o latin_a word_n that_o can_v full_o declare_v it_o he_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v con●ent_v with_o his_o own_o store_n and_o be_v furnish_v with_o enough_o and_o with_o abundant_a and_o desit_v no_o other_o help●_n it_o be_v such_o a_o self●-sufficienci●_a as_o be_v in_o the_o heavenly_a kingdom_n of_o which_o theophylact_n say_v 18._o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d theophyl_n in_o joh._n 18._o it_o be_v sufficient_a and_o need_v nothing_o such_o than_o be_v the_o fullness_n and_o the_o selfe-sufficiencie_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n that_o it_o have_v store_n in_o itself_o it_o be_v full_o furnish_v yea_o so_o abundant_o that_o it_o need_v not_o the_o help_n of_o unwritten_a tradition_n to_o discover_v any_o truth_n athanasius_n here_o speak_v not_o of_o all_o truth_n but_o of_o two_o special_a 130._o reply_v p._n 130._o point_n of_o faith_n only_o to_o wit_n that_o idol_n be_v not_o god_n and_o that_o christ_n be_v the_o only_a true_a god_n concern_v which_o two_o article_n he_o write_v th●se_a two_o book_n to_o maearius_n and_o for_o the_o discovery_n of_o those_o two_o point_n the_o holy_a father_n say_v that_o the_o scripture_n be_v sufficient_a as_o in_o these_o two_o book_n to_o macari●s_n he_o write_v of_o these_o two_o point_n and_o also_o of_o many_o other_o point_n for_o in_o the_o first_o he_o write_v of_o the_o deity_n of_o the_o father_n of_o the_o immortality_n of_o the_o soul_n etc._n etc._n and_o in_o the_o second_o of_o christ_n manhood_n his_o incarnation_n death_n resurrection_n etc._n etc._n so_o here_o he_o speak_v not_o only_o of_o those_o two_o point_n but_o of_o all_o truth_n in_o general_a that_o the_o scripture_n be_v sufficient_a for_o the_o discovery_n of_o truth_n and_o therefore_o in_o his_o tractate_n of_o christ_n incarnation_n he_o tax_v they_o of_o great_a i●●desti●_n which_o speak●_n the_o ●hings_n which_o be_v no●_n write_v athanasius_n in_o that_o pla●e_n make_v mention_v not_o only_o of_o the_o 13●_n reply_v p._n 13●_n holy_a scripture_n but_o also_o of_o the_o book_n of_o holy_a father_n and_o to_o both_o do_v he_o attribute_v this_o sufficiency_n forasmuch_o as_o a_o man_n by_o read_v of_o those_o book_n may_v discover_v the_o true_a sense_n and_o meaning_n of_o the_o scripture_n this_o be_v not_o the_o true_a sense_n and_o meaning_n of_o this_o father_n in_o the_o word_n follow_v though_o he_o make_v mention_n of_o the_o book_n of_o the_o father_n yet_o he_o never_o intend_v to_o impart_v any_o part_n of_o this_o sufficiency_n unto_o they_o or_o to_o make_v they_o equal_a with_o scripture_n as_o you_o do_v with_o tradition_n but_o he_o declare_v that_o they_o be_v good_a commentary_n or_o help_n for_o the_o understanding_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n his_o word_n be_v these_o there_o be_v also_o many_o book_n of_o the_o holy_a father_n in_o which_o if_o a_o ●an_v employ_v himself_o he_o may_v in_o some_o sort_n attain_v unto_o the_o interpretution_n of_o the_o scripture_n it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o say_v that_o by_o read_v of_o the_o book_n of_o the_o father_n a_o man_n may_v in_o some_o sort_n attain_v unto_o the_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n &_o
all_o soul_n may_v be_v cure_v and_o from_o which_o every_o man_n may_v take_v a_o medicine_n to_o heal_v his_o disease_n now_o as_o it_o be_v absurd_a to_o say_v this_o apothecary_n shop_n contain_v all_o medicine_n for_o all_o disease_n because_o it_o be_v write_v on_o the_o shop_n door_n go_v to_o such_o a_o place_n for_o they_o so_o it_o be_v a_o senseless_a thing_n to_o say_v the_o scripture_n contain_v all_o medicine_n for_o the_o soul_n because_o it_o send_v to_o a_o other_o for_o they_o that_o of_o the_o ambassador_n letter_n of_o credence_n be_v already_o 3_o already_o sect_n 5._o diu._n 3_o answer_v and_o so_o be_v that_o of_o s._n 2_o s._n sect._n ●_o diu._n 2_o basil_n in_o commend_v unwritten_a tradition_n s._n basil_n teach_v further_a ●6_n further_a basil_n in_o ethicis_fw-la regul_n ●6_n that_o every_o word_n and_o action_n ought_v to_o be_v confirm_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o holy_a scripture_n answer_n answer_n etc._n etc._n and_o that_o it_o be_v the_o property_n of_o a_o faithful_a man_n to_o be_v full_o persuade_v of_o the_o truth_n of_o th●se_a thing_n that_o be_v deliver_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n ●2_n scripture_n idem_fw-la ibid._n reg_fw-la ●●_o c_o ●2_n and_o not_o to_o 〈◊〉_d either_o to_o reject_v or_o to_o add_v any_o thing_n thereunto_o for_o if_o whatsoever_o be_v not_o of_o faith_n be_v sin_n as_o the_o apostle_n say_v and_o faith_n be_v by_o hear_v and_o hear_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n than_o whatsoever_o be_v without_o the_o holy_a scripture_n be_v not_o of_o faith_n must_v needs_o be_v sin_n these_o two_o testimony_n the_o jesuite_n pass_v over_o in_o silence_n 9_o many_o other_o testimony_n be_v produce_v out_o of_o the_o father_n by_o the_o most_o reverend_a primate_n as_o that_o of_o gregory_n niss●ne_n resur_n niss●ne_n greg._n 〈◊〉_d dialog_n de_fw-fr anima_fw-la &_o resur_n in_o that_o only_a the_o truth_n must_v be_v acknowledge_v wherein_o the_o seal_n of_o the_o scripture_n testimony_n be_v to_o be_v see_v of_o s._n hier●ms_n helvid_n hier●ms_n hieron_n adv_fw-la helvid_n as_o we_o deny_v not_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v write_v so_o we_o refuse_v those_o thing_n t●_n a●_n be_v not_o write_v that_o god_n be_v bear_v of_o a_o virgin_n we_o believe_v because_o we_o read_v it_o that_o mary_n do_v marry_v after_o she_o be_v deliver_v we_o believe_v not_o because_o we_o read_v it_o not_o with_o those_o of_o theodoret_n 2._o theodoret_n theodor_n dial_n 2._o i_o be_o not_o so_o bold_a as_o to_o affirm_v any_o thing_n that_o the_o scripture_n have_v pass_v in_o silence_n 26_o silence_n idem_fw-la in_o exod._n quaest_n 26_o it_o be_v a_o idle_a and_o a_o senseless_a thing_n to_o seek_v those_o thing_n that_o be_v pass_v in_o silence_n these_o the_o jesuite_n pass_v not_o over_o in_o silence_n but_o as_o he_o be_v idle_a and_o senseless_a in_o seek_v after_o unwritten_a thing_n so_o he_o make_v a_o idle_a and_o senseless_a answer_n in_o defence_n of_o thing_n unwritten_a these_o father_n do_v always_o suppose_v holy_a tradition_n to_o be_v 143._o reply_v p._n 143._o virtual_o contuine_v in_o the_o scripture_n howsoever_o they_o be_v not_o plain_o express_v in_o the_o same_o we_o believe_v the_o same_o that_o there_o be_v many_o holy_a doctrine_n which_o be_v holy_a tradition_n which_o be_v not_o plain_o express_v word_n for_o word_n in_o the_o scripture_n and_o yet_o we_o call_v they_o doctrinal_a tradition_n write_v because_o they_o be_v virtual_o contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n and_o by_o sound_a inference_n deduce_v from_o they_o but_o this_o make_v nothing_o for_o popish_a tradition_n they_o be_v not_o holy_a but_o profane_a not_o write_v but_o unwritten_a not_o plain_o express_v nor_o virtual_o contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n but_o only_o teach_v and_o deliver_v by_o a_o church_n and_o that_o no_o true_a church_n but_o a_o false_a church_n i_o have_v hear_v of_o a_o subtle_a disputant_n who_o will_v undertake_v by_o three_o distinction_n to_o avoid_v any_o argument_n be_v it_o never_o so_o evident_a the_o jesuite_n go_v beyond_o he_o for_o with_o this_o one_o distinction_n only_o of_o mediate_v and_o immediate_a he_o have_v answer_v all_o the_o testimony_n of_o these_o father_n the_o vanity_n of_o this_o distinction_n we_o have_v oft_o discover_v and_o now_o leave_v it_o to_o the_o judgement_n of_o a_o understand_a reader_n 10._o and_o now_o the_o jesuite_n contrary_a to_o the_o duty_n of_o the_o defendant_n become_v the_o assailant_n huddle_v together_o a_o confuse_a number_n of_o testimony_n for_o unwritten_a tradition_n out_o of_o the_o father_n but_o that_o nothing_o may_v escape_v we_o without_o due_a examination_n we_o will_v be_v content_a once_o more_o to_o run_v the_o wild-goose_n chase_n and_o to_o hunt_v he_o out_o of_o every_o corner_n the_o arian_n deny_v that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n ought_v to_o be_v worship_v 143_o reply_v pag._n 143_o as_o god_n and_o with_o god_n allege_v that_o it_o be_v not_o where_o write_v in_o the_o scripture_n to_o that_o we_o answer_v thus_o say_v s._n basil_n 29._o basil_n basil_n l._n the_o spir_n sanct._n c._n 29._o if_o nothing_o else_o that_o be_v unwritten_a be_v admit_v then_o let_v this_o also_o be_v reject_v but_o if_o many_o mystery_n beside_o this_o be_v receive_v of_o we_o without_o writing_n than_o i_o pray_v you_o among_o the_o rest_n let_v this_o also_o be_v receive_v for_o true_o i_o hold_v it_o to_o be_v apostolical_a doctrine_n to_o adhere_v also_o unto_o unwritten_a tradition_n among_o which_o this_o which_o we_o now_o have_v in_o hand_n be_v not_o the_o mean_a for_o asmuch_o as_o they_o who_o in_o the_o beginning_n do_v govern_v all_o deliver_v it_o unto_o those_o that_o come_v after_o they_o and_o so_o by_o use_n in_o process_n of_o time_n and_o by_o continual_a custom_n it_o have_v now_o take_v strong_a r●●ting_n etc._n etc._n the_o jesuite_n doubt_v of_o that_o treatise_n of_o basil_n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la there_o be_v more_o cause_n to_o doubt_v of_o this_o book_n de_fw-fr spiritu_fw-la sanct●_n whether_o it_o may_v not_o be_v account_v among_o the_o postuati_n the_o author_n of_o it_o speak_v of_o meletius_n as_o if_o he_o be_v dead_a long_o before_o he_o 19_o he_o lib._n de_fw-fr spir._n sanct._n c._n 19_o they_o that_o live_v with_o meletius_n say_v that_o he_o be_v of_o this_o opinion_n but_o what_o need_v i_o remember_v the_o thing_n long_o pass_v yet_o the_o true_a basil_n and_o meletius_n be_v co●t●ne●_n s._n basil_n write_v four_o 59_o four_o basil_n epist_n 56_o 57_o 58._o 59_o epistle_n unto_o he_o yea_o s._n basil_n die_v three_o year_n before_o for_o basil_n die_v a_o 378._o and_o meletius_n die_v a_o 381._o as_o 4._o as_o baron_fw-fr annal_n tom._n 4._o baronius_n observe_v admit_v the_o author_n we_o answer_v to_o the_o matter_n by_o distinguish_v the_o doctrine_n contain_v in_o the_o fo●me_n of_o word_n from_o the_o form_n of_o word_n itself_o this_o doctrine_n the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v to_o be_v worship_v as_o god_n be_v no_o unwritten_a tradition_n 25._o tradition_n basil_n c._n 25._o it_o be_v agreeable_a to_o that_o which_o be_v write_v in_o other_o word_n say_v s._n basil_n and_o he_o prove_v it_o by_o the_o descension_n of_o the_o 29._o the_o idem_fw-la c._n 29._o holy_a ghost_n upon_o christ_n in_o his_o baptism_n the_o form_n of_o word_n of_o which_o he_o dispute_v be_v this_o glory_n be_v to_o the_o father_n and_o to_o the_o son_n with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n the_o question_n between_o he_o and_o the_o heretic_n be_v about_o the_o syllable_n cum_fw-la whether_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o say_v cum_fw-la spiritu_fw-la sanct●_n and_o not_o rather_o in_o spiritu_fw-la sanct●_n and_o in_o proof_n of_o the_o lawfullnesse_n of_o this_o form_n of_o word_n he_o affirm_v this_o which_o the_o jesuite_n allege_v prove_v it_o to_o be_v lawful_a though_o it_o be_v not_o write_v express_o in_o scripture_n as_o many_o other_o rite_n and_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n be_v observe_v though_o they_o be_v not_o write_v this_o tradition_n we_o willing_o admit_v and_o desire_v most_o reverendly_a to_o use_v it_o in_o the_o lyturgie_n of_o our_o church_n yea_o we_o allow_v the_o decent_a rite_n and_o order_n of_o the_o church_n and_o those_o be_v the_o tradition_n of_o which_o s._n basil_n dispute_v namely_o of_o ritual_a tradition_n listen_v a_o little_a more_o and_o you_o shall_v hear_v he_o declare_v that_o 144_o reply_v pag._n 144_o 27_o 144_o basil_n c._n 27_o the_o doctrine_n &_o constitution_n of_o the_o church_n s●me_v of_o they_o we_o have_v out_o of_o the_o write_a word_n &_o some_o other_o we_o receive_v by_o the_o secret_a &_o hide_a tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n &_o both_o have_v equal_a foree_n unto_o godliness_n neither_o can_v any_o man_n that_o have_v the_o least_o sight_n in_o the_o thing_n of_o the_o church_n
already_o 14._o already_o rom._n 15._o 14._o fill_v with_o all_o knowledge_n what_o paul_n desire_v to_o impart_v unto_o they_o he_o desire_v to_o receive_v the_o same_o from_o they_o but_o i_o hope_v you_o will_v not_o say_v that_o paul_n desire_v to_o be_v teach_v any_o unwritten_a tradition_n by_o they_o eusebius_n also_o tell_v we_o ●_o we_o euseb_n ●_o 1._o de_fw-fr demo●str_n evang_v c._n ●_o that_o the_o disciple_n of_o our_o lord_n 14●_n reply_v pag._n 14●_n commend_v unto_o the_o faithful_a such_o thing_n as_o they_o learn_v of_o their_o master_n partly_o by_o writing_n and_o partly_o without_o writing_n and_o therefore_o ancyran_n therefore_o idem_fw-la co●t_fw-la mar●_n epis●_n ancyran_n the_o church_n from_o one_o end_n of_o the_o world_n unto_o a_o other_o confirm_v her_o doctrine_n by_o testimony_n out_o of_o the_o scripture_n and_o by_o unwritten_a tradition_n 12._o i_o tell_v you_o that_o eusebius_n by_o such_o thing_n as_o be_v deliver_v without_o writing_n mean_v not_o s●ch_a thing_n as_o be_v doctrinal_a for_o he_o commend_v 3._o commend_v 〈…〉_o in_o 1._o ti●_n 3._o consta●tine_n his_o good_a admonition_n give_v to_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a among_o which_o theod●ret_n relate_v this_o for_o one_o 7._o one_o theod●r_n l._n 1._o cap._n 7._o consult_v only_o with_o the_o scripture_n which_o do_v full_o instruct_v ●●_o in_o such_o thing_n other_o thing_n such_o as_o be_v ritual_a may_v be_v commend_v without_o writing_n neither_o do_v e●s●bius_n say_v that_o such_o thing_n be_v deliver_v to_o the_o faithful_a without_o write_v ibid._n write_v illis_fw-la autem_fw-la qui_fw-la animas_fw-la adhuc_fw-la affectibus_fw-la obnoxias_fw-la gerebant_fw-la curationisque_fw-la indigentes_fw-la tradidisse_fw-la quae_fw-la ijs_fw-la con●enire_fw-la a●bitrabantur_fw-la idque_fw-la partim_fw-la 〈◊〉_d partim_fw-la sine_fw-la literis_fw-la euseb_n ibid._n but_o unto_o those_o who_o soul_n be_v as_o yet_o mislead_v by_o their_o affection_n and_o stand_v in_o need_n of_o cure_v they_o deliver_v those_o thing_n which_o they_o judge_v fit_a for_o they_o partly_o by_o writing_n partly_o without_o writing_n now_o if_o they_o be_v deliver_v unto_o such_o as_o be_v not_o perfect_a but_o carry_v away_o with_o the_o storm_n of_o their_o affection_n how_o can_v they_o be_v unwritten_a tradition_n for_o according_a to_o your_o doctrine_n unwritten_a tradition_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o dignity_n of_o such_o great_a mystery_n be_v not_o deliver_v by_o the_o apostle_n unto_o such_o as_o be_v unsound_a and_o waver_v but_o unto_o they_o that_o be_v sound_a stay_v perfect_a and_o faithful_a it_o be_v true_a that_o the_o faith_n be_v deliver_v by_o the_o apostle_n in_o a_o diverse_a manner_n according_a to_o the_o capacity_n of_o their_o hearer_n sometime_o more_o accurate_o and_o sometime_o more_o plain_o sometime_o more_o brief_o and_o sometime_o more_o full_o but_o the_o same_o point_n of_o faith_n be_v still_o deliver_v unto_o all_o both_o by_o writing_n and_o without_o writing_n the_o jesuite_n in_o favour_n of_o his_o cause_n false_o translate_v that_o other_o testimony_n of_o eusebius_n thus_o it_o be_v to_o be_v english_v confirma●_n english_v ecclesia_fw-la ex_fw-la divinis_fw-la scripture_n testimony_n ex_fw-la non_fw-la scripta_fw-la traditione_n confirma●_n the_o church_n confirm_v the_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n by_o unwritten_a tradition_n howsoever_o it_o be_v translate_v it_o make_v no_o more_o for_o unwritten_a tradition_n than_o it_o do_v for_o the_o writing_n of_o the_o father_n and_o of_o the_o heathen_a themselves_o because_o the_o church_n confirm_v her_o doctrine_n by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n and_o likewise_o of_o the_o heathen_a this_o inference_n be_v as_o sound_v s._n paul_n confirm_v his_o doctrine_n by_o the_o testimony_n of_o heathen_a poet_n and_o so_o the_o church_n confirm_v her_o doctrine_n by_o the_o writing_n of_o the_o heathen_n therefore_o those_o poet_n and_o those_o heathenish_a writing_n be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o be_v to_o be_v compare_v with_o the_o write_a word_n this_o inference_n 〈…〉_o be_v as_o ●ound_v as_o this_o the_o church_n confirm_v the_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n by_o unwritten_a tradition_n or_o the_o church_n confirm_v her_o doctrine_n by_o unwritten_a tradition_n therefore_o unwritten_a tradition_n be_v as_o sure_a as_o scripture_n and_o be_v to_o be_v compare_v with_o it_o the_o proof_n be_v not_o always_o to_o be_v compare_v with_o the_o thing_n prove_v in_o this_o present_a controversy_n as_o in_o all_o other_o we_o make_v use_v of_o the_o writing_n of_o the_o father_n and_o of_o other_o help_n yet_o we_o give_v the_o honour_n of_o the_o day_n unto_o the_o scripture_n they_o must_v make_v the_o onset_n they_o be_v infallible_a and_o be_v sufficient_a for_o the_o final_a determination_n of_o all_o question_n of_o faith_n yet_o the_o field_n be_v fight_v and_o the_o enemy_n vanquish_v ex_fw-la superabundanti_fw-la we_o make_v use_v of_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o writing_n of_o the_o father_n and_o of_o other_o help_v rather_o ad_fw-la pompam_fw-la then_o ad_fw-la pugnam_fw-la for_o our_o great_a glory_n and_o your_o great_a confusion_n s._n epiphanius_n 69._o epiphanius_n epiphan_n haeres_fw-la 69._o the_o father_n be_v uncreate_v and_o unbegotten_a 145_o reply_v pag._n 145_o but_o where_o be_v this_o say_v write_v so_o the_o word_n coessential_a or_o consubstantial_a be_v not_o write_v and_o 75._o and_o idem_fw-la haeres_fw-la 75._o god_n have_v teach_v we_o both_o by_o holy_a scripture_n and_o also_o by_o tradition_n 13._o in_o the_o state_v of_o this_o question_n we_o allow_v unto_o the_o church_n the_o delivery_n of_o wholesome_a word_n according_a to_o the_o doctrine_n contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n so_o that_o we_o dispute_v not_o against_o unwritten_a word_n but_o against_o unwritten_a doctrine_n and_o though_o these_o word_n unbegotten_a coessential_a etc._n etc._n be_v not_o write_v yet_o the_o doctrine_n signify_v by_o they_o be_v write_v in_o other_o word_n as_o we_o have_v 12._o have_v sect._n 4._o divis_n 12._o former_o declare_v this_o be_v a_o doctrine_n teach_v we_o both_o by_o holy_a scripture_n and_o by_o tradition_n by_o tradition_n that_o be_v by_o the_o preach_n of_o god_n word_n by_o which_o we_o confess_v god_n teach_v we_o and_o not_o by_o write_v only_o this_o only_a concern_v ●●dum_fw-la tradend●_n the_o manner_n of_o delivery_n but_o the_o question_n be_v de_fw-fr re_fw-mi tradi●â_fw-la of_o the_o matter_n deliver_v whether_o god_n by_o tradition_n have_v teach_v we_o any_o unwritten_a doctrine_n the_o jesuite_n play_v ●ack_o on_o both_o side_n now_o against_o he_o leave_v his_o assail_a we_o by_o the_o father_n and_o return_v again_o to_o answer_v the_o father_n object_v against_o he_o like_o a_o tire_a lade_n he_o desire_v to_o ●hange_v his_o pace_n and_o yet_o be_v neither_o good_a at_o troth_n or_o amble_v the_o holy_a scripture_n answer_n answer_n say_v s._n lu●an_n s._n cyril_n l._n 7._o cont_n lu●an_n cyrill_n of_o alexandria_n be_v sufficient_a to_o make_v they_o which_o be_v bring_v up_o in_o it_o wise_a and_o most_o approve_a and_o furnish_v with_o sufficient_a understanding_n and_o again_o that_o which_o the_o holy_a scripture_n have_v not_o say_v by_o what_o mean_n shall_v we_o receive_v and_o account_v it_o among_o those_o thing_n that_o be_v true_a s._n cyrill_n as_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o father_n under_o the_o 145_o reply_v pag._n 145_o name_n of_o scripture_n comprehend●th_v always_o unwritten_a tradition_n 14._o sure_o the_o sea_n make_v his_o brain_n addle_n he_o go_v far_o to_o suck_v a_o bull_n and_o here_o be_v a_o bull_n indeed_o he_o may_v aswell_o s●●_n by_o a_o man_n be_v mean_v a_o bull_n or_o under_o a_o man_n be_v comprehend_v a_o bull_n as_o to_o say_v under_o scripture_n the_o faiber_n always_o comprehend_v unwritten_a tradition_n tradition_n be_v oft_o take_v for_o scripture_n but_o the_o scripture_n be_v never_o take_v for_o unwritten_a tradition_n they_o be_v as_o like_a as_o light_v and_o darkness_n this_o be_v as_o good_a nonsense_n as_o the_o roman_n catholic_n church_n and_o this_o say_v he_o appeareth_z by_z cyrils_n exhortarion_n heortast_n exhortarion_n cyril_n ho._n ●_o heortast_n lay_v up_o in_o the_o inward_a closet_n of_o thy_o heart_n the_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n as_o a_o certain_a treasure_n lay_v hold_v on_o such_o action_n as_o be_v acceptable_a unto_o god_n call_v you_o this_o a_o evident_a proof_n it_o be_v a_o evident_a proof_n that_o your_o assertion_n be_v false_a see_v you_o can_v bring_v no_o better_o a_o proof_n for_o it_o here_o be_v no_o mention_n of_o scripture_n nor_o of_o tradition_n nor_o of_o unwritten_a how_o then_o do_v this_o prove_v that_o under_o scripture_n cyrill_n comprehend_v unwritten_a tradition_n i_o know_v the_o word_n tradition_n may_v be_v take_v for_o scripture_n but_o under_o scripture_n to_o comprehend_v unwritten_a tradition_n be_v as_o usual_a with_o the_o father_n as_o truth_n be_v
with_o the_o jesuite_n in_o theodoret_n we_o meet_v with_o these_o kind_n of_o speech_n 1._o speech_n theodor._n dialog_n 1._o by_o the_o answer_n answer_n scripture_n alone_a be_o i_o persuade_v 45._o persuade_v idem_fw-la in_o genes_n q_o 45._o we_o ought_v not_o to_o seek_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v pass_v in_o silence_n but_o rest_n in_o the_o thing_n which_o be_v write_v unwritten_a tradition_n be_v not_o pass_v in_o silence_n by_o the_o 145._o reply_v pag._n 145._o scripture_n neither_o ●ought_v you_o to_o gainsay_v they_o if_o you_o will_v be_v persuade_v by_o the_o scripture_n and_o true_o we_o may_v not_o doubt_v of_o the_o meaning_n of_o theodoret_n if_o we_o note_v well_o what_o he_o record_v in_o his_o history_n to_o wit_n that_o the_o father_n of_o the_o nicen_n council_n condemn_v the_o arian_n by_o unwritten_a tradition_n 15._o as_o unwritten_a tradition_n be_v not_o scripture_n so_o they_o be_v not_o contain_v in_o scripture_n i_o confess_v the_o scripture_n do_v not_o pass_v they_o in_o silence_n no_o more_o than_o it_o do_v juda●_n but_o it_o be_v to_o condemn_v they_o the_o scripture_n do_v contain_v some_o tradition_n such_o be_v write_v tradition_n and_o such_o be_v the_o tradition_n establish_v in_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a against_o which_o the_o arian_n dispute_v this_o jesuite_n have_v gather_v his_o basket_n of_o scrap_n from_o bellarmine_n full_a table_n out_o of_o who_o he_o may_v have_v learn_v to_o cite_v the_o place_n aswell_o as_o the_o word_n the_o word_n be_v these_o 1._o these_o theodor._n l._n 1._o c._n 1._o by_o unwritten_a word_n yet_o some_o book_n read_v it_o by_o write_a word_n pious_o understand_v they_o be_v condemn_v it_o be_v not_o material_a how_o we_o read_v it_o either_o by_o write_a word_n or_o by_o unwritten_a word_n for_o our_o question_n be_v not_o of_o unwritten_a word_n but_o of_o unwritten_a doctrine_n the_o unwritten_a word_n be_v coessential_a or_o consubstantial_a which_o word_n though_o they_o be_v not_o write_v letter_n for_o letter_n in_o scripture_n yet_o the_o doctrine_n signify_v by_o those_o word_n be_v write_v in_o other_o word_n as_o we_o have_v oft_o show_v and_o once_o more_o will_v make_v it_o appear_v athanasius_n be_v one_o of_o the_o nic●n●_n council_n and_o the_o word_n cite_v out_o of_o theodoret_n be_v take_v out_o of_o afros_fw-la of_o athanas_n in_o epistol_n ad_fw-la afros_fw-la athanasius_n and_o yet_o the_o jesuite_n have_v 119._o have_v pag_n 119._o former_o declare_v unto_o we_o the_o judgement_n of_o this_o holy_a father_n that_o the_o scripture_n be_v sufficient_a for_o the_o discovery_n of_o this_o truth_n that_o christ_n be_v god_n so_o that_o by_o the_o opinion_n of_o this_o holy_a father_n the_o arian_n may_v be_v condemn_v by_o scripture_n aswell_o as_o by_o unwritten_a word_n the_o word_n be_v unwritten_a and_o yet_o the_o doctrine_n write_v theodoret_n in_o the_o same_o chapter_n cite_v by_o the_o jesuite_n add_v this_o out_o of_o athanasi●●_n that_o they_o of_o that_o famous_a council_n gather_v testimony_n out_o of_o the_o scripture_n and_o by_o they_o condemn_v the_o arian_n add_v unto_o this_o the_o grave_a oration_n which_o the_o great_a &_o learned_a emperor_n cons●antine_n make_v in_o that_o council_n in_o which_o he_o conclude_v with_o this_o exhortation_n unto_o which_o they_o all_o yield_v 7._o yield_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d theodor._n l._n 1._o c_o 7._o let_v we_o resolve_v the_o thing_n in_o question_n by_o the_o divine_a scripture_n in_o those_o thing_n say_v s._n 146._o s._n august_n de_fw-fr doct_n christian_n l._n ●_o c._n 9_o reply_v pag._n 146._o augustine_n which_o be_v plain_o lay_v down_n in_o the_o scripture_n all_o those_o thing_n be_v find_v which_o appertain_v to_o faith_n and_o direction_n of_o life_n can_n you_o infer_v therefore_o that_o tradition_n be_v not_o necessary_a answer_n answer_n and_o may_v you_o not_o infer_v also_o that_o therefore_o your_o doctrine_n deduce_v by_o sound_a inference_n be_v as_o needless_a s._n augustine_n speak_v in_o this_o place_n not_o of_o all_o and_o every_o point_n in_o particular_a but_o only_o of_o such_o point_n as_o be_v general_o necessary_a for_o every_o one_o to_o know_v as_o the_o creed_n the_o ten_o commandment_n and_o the_o like_a 16._o unwritten_a tradition_n and_o sound_a inference_n differ_v as_o much_o as_o truth_n and_o error_n sound_a inference_n be_v plain_o though_o not_o express_o word_n for_o word_n contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n but_o for_o unwritten_a tradition_n there_o be_v neither_o plain_a nor_o express_v warrant_n in_o they_o you_o declare_v s._n augustine_n meaning_n contrary_a to_o his_o mind_n he_o speak_v of_o all_o thing_n you_o of_o some_o thing_n appertain_v to_o all_o person_n he_o speak_v of_o the_o scripture_n that_o in_o some_o place_n it_o be_v plain_a in_o other_o place_n obscure_a you_o of_o point_n of_o faith_n which_o be_v necessary_a for_o some_o but_o no●_n for_o every_o one_o to_o know_v he_o say_v in_o the_o plain_a place_n all_o thing_n that_o appertain_v to_o faith_n be_v l●ide_v down_o you_o say_v all_o plain_a point_n of_o faith_n be_v lay_v down_o in_o scripture_n be_v there_o not_o a_o plain_a difference_n between_o your_o interpretation_n and_o s._n augustine_n text_n we_o know_v that_o there_o be_v some_o thing_n necessary_a &_o some_o thing_n not_o necessary_a to_o be_v know_v whosoever_o will_v be_v save_v say_v athanasius_n in_o his_o creed_n which_o be_v sing_v in_o your_o church_n it_o be_v necessary_a that_o he_o hold_v the_o cutholicks_n faith_n other_o thing_n there_o be_v which_o be_v not_o necessary_a scrap_n necessary_a athanas_n ad_fw-la scrap_n we_o must_v know_v that_o god_n i●_n and_o that_o be_v be_v a_o rewarder_n but_o how_o we_o need_v not_o know_v say_v the_o same_o father_n and_o s._n augustine_n write_v of_o the_o question_n how_o the_o soul_n become_v taint_v with_o originals_n sin_v say_v ultimo_fw-la say_v credo_fw-la eti●m_fw-la divinorum_fw-la ●loq●oru●_n claris●im●_fw-la authorit●●_n esset_fw-la si_fw-la ●o●o_fw-la ill●●_n sine_fw-la dispendio_fw-la promise_v saluti●_n ignorare_fw-la ●on_n poss●●_n august_n l._n ●_o de_fw-fr peccat_fw-la merit_n c._n ultimo_fw-la i_o believe_v that_o the_o scriptur●●_n will_v likewise_o declare_v this_o plain_o if_o it_o be_v a_o thing_n of_o which_o a_o man_n can_v not_o be_v ignorant_a without_o the_o less_o of_o salva●i●●_n but_o this_o doctrine_n be_v never_o know_v to_o s._n augustine_n neither_o do_v we_o receive_v it_o that_o there_o shall_v be_v paint_v of_o faith_n which_o be_v necessary_a for_o all_o and_o those_o shall_v be_v contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n and_o that_o there_o be_v point_n of_o faith_n not_o necessary_a for_o all_o but_o only_o for_o some_o and_o those_o shall_v not_o be_v lay_v down_o in_o the_o scripture_n 5_o scripture_n ●phes_n 4._o 5_o there_o be_v one_o lord_n one_o faith_n one_o baptism_n as_o one_o lord_n of_o priest_n and_o people_n and_o one_o baptism_n for_o all_o so_o but_o one_o faith_n for_o all_o even_o a_o 1●_n a_o verse_n 1●_n unity_n of_o faith_n for_o paster_n teacher_n and_o for_o the_o saint_n how_o can_v this_o faith_n be_v catholic_a if_o the_o same_o faith_n be_v not_o necessary_a for_o all_o his_o only_o answer_n must_v be_v this_o that_o unwritten_a tradition_n be_v no_o part_n of_o the_o catholic_a faith_n &_o that_o they_o be_v not_o general_o necessary_a for_o all_o to_o know_v if_o they_o be_v they_o will_v be_v find_v among_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v plain_o lay_v down_o in_o scripture_n 4._o scripture_n una_fw-la fide●_n quia_fw-la unum_fw-la &_o idem_fw-la creditur_fw-la à_fw-la ●unctis_fw-la fidelibus_fw-la unde_fw-la catholicadi●tur_fw-la aquin._n in_o ephes_n 4._o there_o be_v one_o faith_n say_v aquinas_n because_o one_o and_o the_o same_o thing_n be_v believe_v of_o all_o the_o faithful_a and_o therefore_o it_o be_v ●alled_v catholick●_n there_o be_v no_o specifical_a but_o only_o a_o gradual_a difference_n between_o the_o faith_n and_o knowledge_n require_v of_o the_o priest_n and_o of_o the_o people_n and_o the_o scripture_n make_v both_o the_o man_n of_o god_n and_o a_o godly_a man_n perfect_a and_o thorough_o furnish_v to_o every_o good_a work_n this_o answer_n of_o the_o jesuite_n be_v not_o unlike_o that_o answer_n make_v by_o a_o chaplia_n of_o b●shop_n b●●ners_n unto_o the_o martyr_n hawk_n 1586._o hawk_n fox_n his_o acts._n pag._n 1586._o that_o the_o scripture_n be_v sufficient_a for_o salvation_n but_o not_o for_o instruction_n and_o i_o answer_v as_o the_o martyr_n do_v god_n send_v ●e_v the_o salvation_n and_o you_o the_o instruction_n if_o in_o the_o thing_n plain_o lay_v down_o in_o scripture_n all_o thing_n be_v find_v which_o be_v general_o necessary_a for_o every_o one_o to_o know_v why_o then_o do_v you_o teach_v that_o it_o be_v not_o find_v in_o scripture_n that_o the_o 118._o the_o pag._n
p._n 164._o allege_v not_o only_o the_o same_o text_n which_o ancient_a heretic_n allege_v but_o also_o direct_o in_o the_o same_o sense_n when_o s._n augustine_n urge_v maximinus_n the_o arian_n with_o unwritten_a tradition_n he_o receive_v this_o answer_n from_o he_o max._n he_o aug._n l._n 1._o cont_n max._n these_o say_n which_o be_v not_o in_o scripture_n may_v not_o be_v receive_v of_o we_o see_v our_o lord_n warn_v we_o do_v say_v without_o cause_n do_v they_o worship_v i_o t●●ching_v for_o doctrine_n the_o commandment_n of_o mention_v be_v not_o this_o selfsame_o text_n the_o first_o which_o you_o in_o like_a manner_n produce_v against_o unwritten_a tradition_n 6._o s._n augustine_n do_v not_o urge_v maximinus_n with_o unwritten_a tradition_n they_o dispute_v of_o unwritten_a say_n not_o of_o unwritten_a but_o of_o a_o write_a doctrine_n &_o by_o unwritten_a say_n he_o urge_v he_o wherefore_o we_o say_v for_o ourselves_o it_o be_v a_o direct_o for_o direct_o in_o the_o same_o sense_n we_o allege_v it_o not_o we_o allege_v it_o against_o unwritten_a doctrine_n not_o against_o unwritten_a say_n as_o that_o arian_n do_v and_o we_o receive_v unwritten_a say_n which_o be_v not_o in_o scripture_n although_o we_o refuse_v to_o receive_v unwritten_a doctrine_n this_o be_v a_o verbal_a argument_n take_v ●_o verbis_fw-la ad_fw-la res_fw-la how_o can_v it_o be_v in_o the_o s●●●_n sens●_n and_o against_o the_o same_o truth_n when_o we_o receiu●_n both_o the_o say_n and_o the_o doctrine_n reject_v by_o that_o arian_n irenaus_n and_o tertullian_n do_v open_o make_v it_o know_v that_o the_o valentinian_o gnostic_n and_o mareionits_n condemn_v unwritten_a 156_o reply_v pag._n 156_o tradition_n hilary_n epiphanius_n and_o augustine_n do_v testify_v the_o same_o of_o the_o arian_n s._n basil_n of_o the_o eunomian_o the_o donatist_n plead_v only_o for_o scripture_n deny_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n and_o of_o tradition_n and_o yet_o s._n augustine_n still_o pursue_v they_o with_o unwritten_a tradition_n 7._o in_o all_o this_o the_o jesuite_n harp_v upon_o three_o string_n 1._o that_o the_o heretic_n do_v plead_v only_o for_o scripture_n 2._o that_o they_o reject_v unwritten_a tradition_n 3._o that_o the_o father_n pursue_v they_o by_o unwritten_a tradition_n to_o the_o first_o i_o answer_v suppose_v it_o be_v so_o that_o the_o heretic_n do_v plead_v only_o for_o scripture_n be_v they_o therefore_o heretic_n that_o do_v the_o same_o what_o then_o shall_v we_o say_v of_o the_o father_n who_o be_v as_o earnest_a to_o try_v all_o controversy_n by_o the_o scripture_n as_o the_o heretic_n be_v this_o make_v man_n heretic_n say_v s._n augustine_n 222._o augustine_n non_fw-la quod_fw-la scripturas_fw-la non_fw-la contemnunt_fw-la sed_fw-la quod_fw-la eas_fw-la non_fw-la intelligunt_fw-la aug._n epist_n 222._o not_o because_o they_o fly_v to_o the_o scripture_n but_o because_o they_o understand_v they_o not_o the_o father_n do_v not_o condemn_v the_o heretic_n for_o appeal_n unto_o scripture_n but_o as_o we_o ha●●_n show_v out_o of_o irenaeus_n &_o tertullian_n for_o speak_v disgraceful_o of_o it_o that_o truth_n can_v not_o be_v know_v out_o of_o scripture_n by_o they_o that_o be_v ignorant_a of_o tradition_n because_o all_o thing_n be_v not_o deliver_v in_o scripture_n theodo●et_n set_v forth_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o heretic_n in_o this_o manner_n haeres_fw-la manner_n s._n vides_fw-la ni_fw-fr petitisè_fw-la scripture_n demonstrationibus_fw-la stultitiam_fw-la svam_fw-la constringinum_fw-la scripturae_fw-la recusant_n &_o scopum_fw-la &_o usum_fw-la si_fw-mi quando_fw-la vero_fw-la putart_n nudum_fw-la aliquod_fw-la effatum_fw-la à_fw-la genuinâ_fw-la recisum_fw-la orationis_fw-la see_v ad_fw-la suum_fw-la propositum_fw-la accommodant_fw-la ●uis_fw-la confirmandis_fw-la theodor_n in_o opusc_n count_v vanas_fw-la haeres_fw-la whensoever_o they_o see_v that_o their_o folly_n be_v discover_v by_o demonstration_n take_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n than_o they_o deny_v the_o scope_n and_o the_o use_n of_o scripture_n and_o if_o at_o any_o time_n they_o think_v that_o there_o be_v any_o bare_a say_n which_o be_v sever_v from_o the_o 〈◊〉_d meaning_n may_v serum_n for_o their_o turn_n that_o they_o make_v use_v of_o to_o confirm_v their_o opinion_n yet_o whensoever_o they_o appeal_v unto_o scripture_n the_o father_n accept_v of_o the_o challenge_n and_o ●ought_v with_o they_o at_o those_o weapon_n ar●an_n weapon_n lapidando●_n esse_fw-la haereticos_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la argume●tis_fw-la athan._n orat._n co●t_fw-la ar●an_n they_o account_v the_o scripture_n to_o be_v the_o touchstone_n of_o truth_n heretic_n be_v t●●e_v stone_v with_o the_o argument_n of_o scripture_n say_v athanasi●●_n mat._n athanasi●●_n sicut_fw-la sal●at●r_fw-la u●rbo_fw-la doctrinae_fw-la suae_fw-la silentium_fw-la imposuit_fw-la sadduc●_n be_v sic_fw-la ●aeient_fw-la christi_fw-la imitatores_fw-la ex●mplis_fw-la s●rit_fw-la turarum_fw-la quibus_fw-la oportet_fw-la secundum_fw-la sanam_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la omnem_fw-la vo●em_fw-la abm●●es_fw-la ere_o h●raonis_fw-la origen_n tract_n 23._o in_o mat._n as_o our_o saviour_n by_o the_o word_n of_o his_o doctrine_n put_v the_o sadducee_n to_o silence_n so_o must_v we_o by_o the_o example_n of_o scripture_n if_o we_o will_v be_v the_o follower_n of_o christ_n by_o the_o which_o according_a unto_o sound_a doctrine_n we_o ought_v to_o stop_v the_o mouth_n of_o every_o proud_a phara●h_n say_v origen_n s._n augustine_n do_v not_o reject_v the_o appeal_n of_o the_o donatist_n unto_o scripture_n as_o if_o it_o be_v cora●_n non_fw-la judice_fw-la but_o commend_v it_o as_o the_o best_a way_n as_o appear_v by_o his_o answer_n unto_o 2d_o unto_o aug._n l._n 5._o contra_fw-la donat._n c._n 2d_o cyprian_n appeal_v in_o the_o same_o point_n unto_o the_o same_o judge_n and_o by_o his_o several_a answer_n to_o the_o donatist_n themselves_o 3._o themselves_o sunt_fw-la libri_fw-la dominici_fw-la quorum_fw-la authoritatiutrique_fw-la consentimus_fw-la ibi_fw-la quae●anius_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la ibi_fw-la discutiam●s_fw-la causam_fw-la nostram_fw-la id●●_n de_fw-la unitat_fw-la ●cles_n cap._n 3._o there_o be_v the_o book_n of_o the_o lord_n unto_o who_o authority_n we_o both_o submit_v in_o they_o let_v u●_n seek_v for_o the_o church_n by_o they_o let_v we_o examine_v our_o cause_n and_o again_o in_o his_o six_o chapter_n read_v this_o out_o of_o the_o law_n out_o of_o the_o prophet_n out_o of_o the_o psalm_n cut_v of_o the_o gospel_n and_o epistle_n read_v it_o and_o we_o will_v believe_v it_o the_o hope_n of_o prolong_v the_o controversy_n of_o tire_v the_o orthodox_n this_o move_v the_o heretic_n to_o appeal_v to_o the_o scripture_n that_o so_o the_o sentence_n may_v not_o final_o pass_v against_o they_o as_o if_o the_o jesuite_n be_v question_v before_o a_o inferior_a judge_n for_o his_o religion_n shall_v appeal_v unto_o his_o majesty_n to_o gain_v time_n thereby_o and_o as_o we_o see_v some_o man_n that_o love_v trouble_v appeal_n from_o court_n to_o court_n to_o vex_v their_o adversary_n though_o their_o cause_n be_v never_o so_o bad_a s._n paul_n ●●_o paul_n act._n ●5_n ●●_o appeal_v unto_o caesar_n so_o do_v his_o enemy_n be_v caesar_n therefore_o no_o sufficient_a judge_n in_o like_a manner_n as_o the_o father_n appeal_v unto_o scripture_n so_o do_v the_o heretic_n be_v therefore_o this_o practice_n evil_a or_o be_v the_o scripture_n therefore_o no_o sufficient_a judge_n the_o more_o do_v appeal_v unto_o it_o the_o more_o witness_n there_o be_v of_o the_o sufficiency_n of_o it_o origen_n give_v this_o reason_n why_o the_o tempter_n use_v scripture_n luc._n scripture_n origen_n 〈◊〉_d 3._o in_o luc._n because_o if_o he_o have_v speak_v without_o book_n his_o word_n can_v have_v have_v no_o authority_n you_o may_v aswell_o say_v that_o we_o learn_v this_o doctrine_n from_o the_o devil_n as_o from_o heretic_n it_o be_v a_o truth_n which_o the_o father_n have_v teach_v which_o the_o heretic_n acknowledge_v and_o the_o devil_n believe_v it_o and_o he_o be_v worse_a than_o a_o heretic_n than_o the_o devil_n that_o will_v deny_v it_o to_o the_o second_o i_o answer_v as_o all_o heretic_n reject_v not_o tradition_n so_o all_o that_o reject_v tradition_n be_v not_o heretic_n tradition_n be_v either_o write_v or_o unwritten_a they_o reject_v some_o write_a tradition_n and_o those_o be_v point_n of_o faith_n else_o they_o can_v not_o be_v heretic_n but_o all_o poinis_fw-la of_o faith_n necessary_a for_o all_o to_o know_v as_o the_o ●4●_n the_o pag._n ●4●_n jesuite_n have_v confess_v be_v express_v in_o the_o scripture_n he_o name_v the_o valentinian_o guostick_n and_o marcionite_n and_o these_o teach_v against_o the_o nature_n of_o christ_n and_o against_o the_o resurrection_n and_o the_o like_a as_o he_o confess_v again_o the_o arian_n and_o the_o ennomian_o and_o they_o teach_v against_o the_o deity_n of_o christ_n and_o of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o for_o the_o donatist_n they_o teach_v against_o the_o unity_n of_o baptism_n all_o these_o we_o have_v prove_v to_o be_v write_v tradition_n reject_v
that_o they_o be_v good_a subject_n the_o evil_a of_o the_o fact_n we_o deny_v for_o though_o they_o use_v not_o the_o word_n tradition_n yet_o they_o use_v such_o a_o word_n as_o declare_v the_o meaning_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n in_o those_o place_n what_o will_v you_o say_v for_o your_o vulgar_a latin_a in_o which_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v not_o always_o translate_v tradition_n but_o sometime_o 2._o sometime_o 1._o cor._n 11._o 2._o praecepta_fw-la &_o in_o english_a not_o tradition_n but_o precept_n i_o may_v say_v of_o the_o septuagint_n as_o sometime_o galatinus_n say_v of_o the_o chalde_n paraphrase_n that_o it_o be_v rather_o a_o exposition_n in_o some_o place_n than_o a_o translatiö_n yet_o the_o apostle_n in_o allege_v the_o old_a testament_n do_v usual_o follow_v the_o 18._o the_o compare_v prov._n 3._o 34._o with_o i_o be_o 4._o 6._o and_o prov_n 11._o 31._o with_o 1._o pet._n 4._o 18._o septuagint_n rather_o than_o the_o hebrew_n so_o that_o translator_n may_v sometime_o vary_v from_o the_o original_a word_n &_o yet_o be_v blameless_a aslong_o as_o they_o retain_v the_o sen●e_n intend_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n in_o that_o word_n thus_o our_o translator_n have_v do_v there_o be_v only_o a_o verbal_a or_o grammatical_a no_o real_a or_o doctrinal_a difference_n betwixt_o the_o original_n &_o the_o translation_n tradition_n be_v a_o doctrine_n ordinance_n instruction_n or_o institution_n &_o again_o doctrine_n ordinance_n instruction_n or_o institution_n be_v a_o tradition_n and_o if_o beza_n must_v be_v censure_v for_o translate_n it_o the_o doctrine_n deliver_v &_o not_o tradition_n then_o what_o say_v you_o to_o those_o book_n which_o be_v approve_v &_o yetrender_v it_o by_o interpres_fw-la by_o syrus_n interpres_fw-la commandment_n &_o bibl._n &_o vatabl._n bibl._n institution_n &_o not_o tradition_n if_o it_o be_v a_o tradition_n it_o be_v a_o delivery_n a_o delivery_n must_v have_v something_o deliver_v it_o can_v not_o be_v a_o delivery_n of_o rite_n because_o they_o have_v little_a power_n to_o keep_v out_o the_o man_n of_o sin_n &_o the_o apostle_n give_v that_o exhortation_n it_o must_v needs_o be_v a_o delivery_n of_o doctrine_n or_o a_o doctrine_n deliver_v as_o for_o his_o exception_n at_o the_o change_n of_o the_o number_n we_o may_v account_v this_o among_o the_o number_n of_o his_o cavil_n for_o by_o doctrine_n deliver_v he_o mean_v not_o one_o singular_a doctrine_n but_o all_o the_o whole_a sum_n of_o s._n paul_n doctrine_n many_o word_n grow_v out_o of_o use_n through_o abuse_n tyrannus_n of_o old_a signify_v a_o king_n host_n a_o stranger_n sophista_fw-la a_o wise_a man_n he_o will_v not_o be_v account_v a_o wise_a man_n that_o shall_v now_o english_a they_o so_o so_o of_o old_a traditio_fw-la be_v take_v diverse_a way_n for_o the_o manner_n of_o delivery_n either_o by_o writing_n or_o by_o word_n of_o mouth_n and_o for_o write_v doctrine_n aswell_o as_o for_o thing_n unwritten_a but_o now_o our_o adversary_n abuse_v the_o word_n and_o wheresoever_o they_o find_v it_o they_o apply_v it_o to_o unwritten_a tradition_n therefore_o our_o translator_n do_v well_o not_o to_o use_v this_o word_n tradition_n which_o be_v pervert_v by_o our_o adversary_n may_v become_v a_o stumble_a block_n to_o the_o reader_n but_o rather_o to_o use_v another_o word_n which_o may_v agree_v with_o the_o original_a and_o declare_v the_o meaning_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o yet_o may_v not_o be_v so_o easy_o pervert_v to_o a_o false_a meaning_n this_o cavil_v martin_n have_v another_o fling_n at_o our_o translatour_n yea_o they_o do_v so_o glad_o use_v the_o word_n tradition_n when_o it_o 162_o reply_v pag._n 162_o may_v tend_v to_o the_o discredit_n thereof_o that_o they_o put_v the_o say_a word_n in_o all_o their_o english_a bibles_n when_o it_o be_v not_o in_o the_o greek_a at_o all_o as_o 20._o as_o coloss_n 2._o 20._o why_o be_v you_o lead_v with_o tradition_n and_o as_o another_o english_a translation_n more_o heretical_o why_o be_v you_o burden_v with_o tradition_n tell_v we_o you_o that_o profess_v to_o have_v skill_n in_o the_o greek_a whether_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v signify_v tradition_n justify_v your_o translation_n if_o you_o can_v either_o out_o of_o scripture_n or_o father_n etc._n etc._n tea_n tell_v we_o if_o you_o can_v why_o you_o translate_v for_o tradition_n ordinance_n and_o contrary_a for_o ordinance_n tradition_n tell_v i_o why_o your_o vulgar_a latin_a allow_v by_o clement_n the_o eight_o be_v guilty_a of_o the_o same_o fault_n if_o it_o be_v a_o fault_n in_o it_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o signify_v custom_n be_v translate_v 14._o translate_v act._n 6_o 14._o tradition_n and_o in_o like_a manner_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o signify_v tradition_n be_v translate_v 2._o translate_v 1._o cor_n 11._o 2._o precept_n or_o custom_n tell_v i_o that_o and_o i_o will_v tell_v you_o this_o tell_v i_o why_o the_o translator_n of_o theod●ret_n print_v at_o cullin_n a_o 1573._o translate_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d tradition_n and_o why_o hentenius_n translate_n oecumenius_n translate_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d institution_n we_o can_v justify_v our_o translation_n by_o scripture_n for_o it_o call_v these_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 22._o 〈◊〉_d coloss_n 2._o 22._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d doctrine_n of_o man_n and_o it_o call_v doctrine_n of_o man_n 1●_n man_n mat._n 1●_n tradition_n the_o interpretation_n of_o the_o father_n do_v likewise_o justify_v this_o translation_n for_o s._n ambrose_n interprete_v this_o place_n of_o such_o error_n quos_fw-la humana_fw-la invenit_fw-la traditio_fw-la which_o humane_a tradition_n find_v out_o what_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d pythagoraea_n but_o the_o tradition_n of_o pythagoras_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v ordinance_n and_o if_o ordinance_n signify_v tradition_n why_o may_v not_o the_o word_n be_v so_o translate_v why_o do_v the_o jesuite_n himself_o not_o distinguish_v more_o accurate_o in_o his_o translation_n of_o the_o greek_a testimony_n between_o these_o word_n for_o common_o he_o translate_v 1._o translate_v pag._n 143._o ●_o pag._n 150_o 1._o pag._n 155._o 1._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d doctrine_n and_o take_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ordinance_n preach_n and_o tradition_n for_o the_o same_o at_o last_o he_o conclude_v this_o section_n with_o a_o wise_a observation_n of_o his_o own_o the_o last_o translation_n correct_v all_o the_o former_a do_v 163._o reply_v p._n 163._o clear_o declare_v what_o a_o handsome_a scripture_n the_o poor_a people_n rely_v upon_o all_o the_o while_n before_o that_o it_o be_v not_o the_o pure_a word_n of_o god_n but_o the_o corrupt_a invention_n of_o translator_n here_o be_v a_o handsome_a observation_n of_o as_o wise_a a_o divine_a as_o martin_n himself_o there_o be_v but_o a_o verbal_a difference_n betwixt_o tradition_n ordinance_n and_o institution_n if_o a_o verbal_a difference_n corrupt_v a_o translation_n and_o make_v it_o a_o false_a invention_n and_o no_o pure_a word_n of_o god_n what_o then_o shall_v become_v of_o all_o your_o latin_a translation_n they_o can_v be_v number_v say_v s._n 11._o s._n aug._n the_o doct_n christ_n l._n 2._o c._n 11._o augustine_n josh_n augustine_n hieron_n praesat_fw-la in_o josh_n as_o many_o book_n so_o many_o several_a copy_n say_v s._n hierome_n until_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n decree_v the_o vulgar_a latin_a what_o pure_a word_n of_o god_n can_v the_o roman_a church_n have_v yea_o if_o a_o verbal_a difference_n corrupt_v a_o translation_n then_o at_o this_o day_n they_o have_v no_o pure_a word_n of_o god_n for_o the_o vulgar_a latin_a differ_v more_o from_o the_o original_n than_o our_o english_a do_v lindanus_n a_o popish_a bishop_n confess_v 1●_n confess_v lindan_n de_fw-fr optim_fw-la generinterpret_v l._n 3._o cap._n 1●_n it_o have_v many_o corruption_n of_o all_o sort_n etc._n etc._n some_o thing_n be_v translate_v too_o intricate_o some_o improper_o and_o some_o not_o true_o and_o such_o variety_n and_o difference_n there_o be_v between_o the_o copy_n themselves_o that_o hardly_o be_v one_o like_o another_o yet_o if_o they_o convert_v the_o word_n and_o do_v not_o pervert_v the_o sense_n no_o wise_a man_n will_v call_v they_o a_o corrupt_a invention_n of_o false_a translator_n because_o the_o truth_n of_o scripture_n be_v the_o sense_n and_o not_o the_o word_n and_o variety_n of_o translation_n differ_v only_o verbal_o do_v not_o hinder_v but_o rather_o do_v further_o we_o to_o find_v out_o the_o true_a sense_n if_o we_o will_v wise_o compare_v they_o together_o sect_n ix_o the_o whole_a sum_n of_o the_o iesuit_n reply_n be_v cast_v up_o the_o remainder_n be_v nothing_o 1._o nothing_o but_o insolent_a brag_n and_o vain_a tau●ologies_n do_v here_o in_o his_o last_o section_n at_o the_o first_o light_n
father_n speak_v of_o the_o scripture_n as_o they_o be_v 168._o reply_v p._n 168._o compare_v with_o the_o writing_n of_o man_n which_o be_v but_o of_o humane_a authority_n say_v that_o the_o scripture_n alone_o have_v the_o prerogative_n of_o undoubted_a truth_n our_o adversary_n give_v forth_o that_o the_o father_n hereby_o do_v reduce_v the_o certainty_n of_o all_o truth_n unto_o the_o sole_a scripture_n absolute_o 9_o as_o comparison_n be_v odious_a especial_o with_o the_o scripture_n so_o this_o observation_n be_v ridiculous_a we_o have_v oft_o show_v that_o the_o father_n do_v give_v unto_o the_o scripture_n not_o only_o a_o comparative_a certainty_n &_o infallibility_n above_o the_o writing_n of_o any_o doctor_n whatsoever_o but_o likewise_o do_v attribute_n unto_o they_o the_o only_o assure_a certainty_n and_o the_o absolute_a infallibility_n when_o s._n peter_n say_v 1●_n say_v 2._o pet._n 1._o 1●_n we_o have_v a_o more_o sure_a word_n with_o what_o do_v he_o compare_v the_o certainty_n of_o the_o scripture_n only_o with_o the_o writing_n of_o the_o doctor_n of_o the_o church_n no_o but_o even_o with_o this_o voice_n or_o unwritten_a word_n when_o it_o be_v first_o speak_v this_o be_v my_o well-beloved_a son_n then_o it_o be_v not_o certain_a whether_o it_o be_v the_o voice_n of_o god_n or_o no_o it_o may_v have_v be_v the_o voice_n of_o a_o angel_n but_o at_o that_o time_n the_o writing_n of_o the_o prophet_n concern_v christ_n be_v more_o sure_a because_o there_o be_v more_o certainty_n &_o assurance_n that_o the_o scripture_n be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n then_o that_o this_o voice_n be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n s._n peter_n suppose_a successor_n hold_v many_o unwritten_a tradition_n such_o as_o god_n never_o speak_v &_o such_o as_o the_o doctor_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n never_o deliver_v unto_o he_o and_o all_o those_o he_o will_v have_v to_o be_v as_o sure_a and_o certain_a as_o god_n write_v word_n and_o suppose_v the_o doctor_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n have_v deliver_v these_o tradition_n be_v they_o therefore_o as_o certain_a and_o infallible_a as_o the_o scripture_n the_o jesuite_n affirm_v it_o figure_v it_o pag_n 171._o if_o true_o figure_v these_o tradition_n be_v corroborate_v by_o the_o write_a attestation_n of_o the_o saint_n and_o holy_a doctor_n this_o be_v a_o warrant_n of_o itself_o infallible_a and_o undoubted_a the_o cardinal_n deny_v it_o even_o in_o this_o his_o observation_n for_o he_o grant_v we_o that_o though_o the_o certainty_n and_o infallibility_n of_o all_o truth_n be_v not_o to_o be_v reduce_v only_o and_o absolute_o unto_o the_o scripture_n yet_o he_o hold_v that_o the_o father_n do_v esteem_v the_o scripture_n to_o be_v more_o certain_a and_o infallible_a than_o the_o writing_n of_o the_o doctor_n of_o the_o church_n or_o writing_n of_o humane_a authority_n here_o be_v manasseh_n against_o ephraim_n and_o ephraim_n against_o manasseh_n and_o both_o against_o the_o truth_n the_o write_a attestation_n of_o the_o doctor_n be_v the_o best_a authority_n which_o the_o jesuite_n can_v produce_v for_o unwritten_a tradition_n thi●_n write_v attestation_n be_v not_o so_o certain_a &_o infallible_a as_o the_o scripture_n as_o the_o cardinal_n confess_v then_o the_o consequence_n be_v sure_a that_o unwritten_a tradition_n be_v not_o as_o certain_a &_o infallible_a as_o the_o scripture_n &_o consequent_o the_o certainty_n &_o infallibility_n of_o all_o doctrine_n must_v be_v reduce_v only_o &_o absolute_o to_o the_o scripture_n as_o for_o the_o obedience_n due_a unto_o the_o commandment_n of_o the_o king_n give_v only_o by_o word_n of_o mouth_n whensoever_o it_o be_v prove_v that_o god_n give_v necessary_a commandment_n only_o by_o word_n of_o mouth_n which_o be_v not_o write_v and_o that_o the_o unwritten_a commandment_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v the_o same_o we_o will_v give_v obedience_n to_o they_o 4._o when_o the_o father_n dispute_v with_o heretic_n do_v 168_o reply_v pag._n 168_o argue_v as_o they_o say_v adhominem_fw-la that_o be_v when_o they_o urge_v they_o out_o of_o their_o own_o erroneous_a principle_n and_o provoke_v they_o unto_o the_o sole_a authority_n of_o the_o write_a word_n our_o adversary_n step_v forth_o and_o will_v have_v this_o kind_n of_o argue_v to_o be_v universal_a withal_o whereas_o this_o be_v the_o conclusion_n to_o be_v drawe●_n from_o hence_o therefore_o the_o father_n admit_v no_o mean_a to_o be_v with_o the_o heretic_n for_o trial_n of_o true_a doctrine_n but_o only_o the_o scripture_n for_o the_o heretic_n for_o the_o most_o part_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o their_o disputation_n will_v disavow_v all_o authority_n of_o tradition_n and_o of_o church_n save_v only_o that_o of_o the_o scripture_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o the_o father_n to_o keep_v their_o nose_n to_o the_o grindlestone_n do_v only_o press_v they_o with_o scripture_n 10._o this_o observation_n be_v a_o very_a heap_n of_o untruth_n 1._o that_o the_o heretic_n for_o the_o most_o part_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o their_o disputation_n be_v accustom_v to_o reject_v tradition_n and_o to_o fly_v unto_o scripture_n only_o as_o the_o heretic_n be_v many_o and_o their_o opinion_n different_a so_o their_o practice_n be_v diverse_a the_o cardinal_n can_v prove_v that_o ten_o of_o the_o hundred_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o their_o disputation_n do_v renounce_v tradition_n and_o only_o betake_v themselves_o to_o scripture_n it_o be_v rather_o their_o practice_n to_o allege_v tradition_n of_o their_o own_o and_o never_o to_o forsake_v that_o fastness_n until_o they_o be_v beat_v out_o of_o it_o they_o be_v as_o earnest_a pleader_n for_o unwritten_a tradition_n and_o as_o great_a enemy_n against_o the_o scripture_n as_o our_o adversary_n be_v or_o can_v be_v and_o therefore_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o first_o they_o be_v style_v 3._o style_v hieronym_n l._n 2._o in_o e●av_n c._n 3._o deutorotae_n tradition-monger_n and_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o latter_a they_o be_v call_v car●_n call_v tertullian_n de_fw-fr resurrect_v car●_n lucifugae_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la owl_n fly_v from_o scripture_n 2._o that_o it_o be_v a_o erroneous_a principle_n in_o the_o heretic_n to_o fly_v only_o unto_o scripture_n i_o read_v of_o the_o father_n condemn_v of_o heretic_n for_o fly_v from_o scripture_n for_o not_o understand_v the_o scripture_n for_o misinterpret_v of_o they_o but_o i_o never_o read_v where_o they_o be_v condemn_v by_o the_o father_n for_o fly_v to_o the_o scripture_n it_o be_v true_a that_o the_o jewish_a cabalist_n will_v reproach_v those_o that_o be_v give_v unto_o the_o scripture_n with_o this_o nickname_n of_o karaim_n as_o roman_a traditi●n-m●ngers_a call_v we_o scripturia●s_o but_o the_o father_n never_o account_v it_o a_o error_n s._n augustine_n have_v clear_v this_o to_o be_v no_o error_n in_o commend_v 26._o commend_v aug_n l_o 5_o cont_n donat._n c_o 26._o cyprian_n appeal_v unto_o the_o scripture_n &_o 1●2_n &_o aug._n epist_n 1●2_n this_o make_v man_n heretic_n say_v he_o nor_o because_o they_o do_v not_o contemn_v but_o because_o they_o do_v not_o understand_v the_o scripture_n these_o two_o untruth_n we_o have_v 7_o have_v sect_n 7._o diu._n 7_o already_o full_o confute_v 3._o that_o the_o father_n admit_v no_o other_o mean_a for_o trial_n of_o true_a doctrine_n with_o the_o heretic_n but_o only_a scripture_n i_o will_v not_o question_v the_o truth_n of_o this_o conclusion_n because_o it_o serve_v to_o our_o purpose_n 1._o to_o show_v that_o this_o be_v no_o erroneous_a principle_n to_o fly_v only_o ●nto_o scripture_n 2._o it_o overthrow_v what_o the_o jesuite_n affirm_v 156._o affirm_v pag._n 153._o &_o 156._o that_o the_o father_n still_o produce_v unwritten_a tradition_n against_o the_o heretic_n and_o that_o they_o make_v tradition_n and_o not_o scripture_n the_o only_a mean_n whereby_o to_o try_v true_a doctrine_n with_o heretic_n 3._o it_o manifest_o declare_v what_o the_o father_n thought_n of_o the_o sufficiency_n of_o scripture_n see_v they_o dare_v try_v the_o point_n in_o controversy_n between_o they_o and_o the_o heretic_n even_o at_o their_o own_o weapon_n and_o by_o their_o own_o principle_n suppose_v scripture_n to_o be_v their_o weapon_n and_o their_o principle_n as_o therefore_o the_o father_n deal_v with_o the_o heretic_n press_v they_o only_o with_o scripture_n so_o may_v we_o deal_v with_o you_o but_o we_o have_v be_v content_a to_o be_v try_v both_o by_o the_o scripture_n and_o by_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n deliver_v by_o the_o mouth_n not_o only_o of_o twelve_o but_o also_o of_o cccxviii_o father_n give_v their_o verdict_n against_o you_o 5._o when_o the_o father_n do_v dispute_v of_o a_o custom_n or_o question_n 169_o reply_v pag._n 169_o not_o yet_o determine_v by_o the_o church_n and_o consequent_o tradition_n can_v be_v allege_v for_o the_o same_o then_o the_o father_n provoke_v their_o adversary_n unto_o scripture_n only_o and_o