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the_o other_o sense_n what_o be_v this_o but_o wilful_a partiality_n so_o you_o do_v in_o redimo_fw-la eleemosynis_fw-la 138._o peccata_fw-la tua_fw-la dan._n 4._o and_o inclinavi_fw-la cor_fw-la meum_fw-la ad_fw-la faciendas_fw-la iustificationes_fw-la tuas_fw-la propter_fw-la retributionem_fw-la and_o nimis_fw-la honorati_fw-la sunt_fw-la amici_fw-la tui_fw-la deus_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o at_o a_o other_o time_n you_o follow_v the_o determination_n of_o the_o greek_a for_o a_o other_o advantage_n as_o psal._n 98._o adore_v his_o footstool_n because_o he_o be_v holy_a whereas_o in_o the_o hebrew_n it_o may_v be_v as_o in_o our_o latin_a because_o 〈◊〉_d it_o be_v holy_a see_v chap_v 13._o num_fw-la 18._o chap_v 9_o num_fw-la 23_o 24._o chap_v 18._o num_fw-la 1._o 2._o so_o you_o flee_v from_o the_o hebrew_n to_o the_o greâ—ke_n and_o from_o this_o to_o that_o again_o from_o both_o to_o the_o vulgar_a latin_a as_o be_v show_v in_o other_o place_n and_o as_o s._n augustine_n 20_o 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translation_n say_v joint_o &_o with_o one_o consent_n ordinance_n or_o statute_n for_o example_n rom._n 2._o if_o the_o uncircumcision_n keep_v the_o ordinance_n 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o law_n shall_v it_o not_o be_v count_v for_o circumcision_n and_o luc._n 1_o 6._o they_o be_v both_o righteous_a before_o 〈◊〉_d god_n walk_v in_o all_o the_o commandment_n and_o ordinance_n of_o the_o lord_n blameless_a why_o translate_v 〈◊〉_d you_o it_o ordinance_n and_o avoid_v the_o term_n iustification_n be_v it_o because_o you_o will_v follow_v the_o greek_a i_o beseech_v you_o be_v not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d just_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o be_v justify_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d iustification_n or_o justice_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n you_o may_v perhaps_o pretend_v that_o you_o follow_v the_o hebrew_n word_n and_o therefore_o there_o you_o translate_v 〈◊〉_d statute_n or_o ordinance_n but_o even_o there_o also_o be_v not_o the_o seventie_o greek_a interpreter_n sufficient_a to_o teach_v you_o the_o signification_n of_o the_o hebrew_n word_n who_o always_o interpret_v it_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o english_a iustification_n fulke_n these_o matter_n be_v drive_v so_o thin_a in_o 1._o the_o first_o chapter_n that_o you_o shall_v soon_o press_v out_o blood_n than_o any_o more_o probable_a matter_n for_o the_o old_a testament_n which_o we_o translate_v out_o of_o the_o hebrew_n you_o yourself_o do_v set_v forth_o our_o answer_n that_o we_o give_v the_o english_a of_o chukim_n when_o we_o say_v ordinance_n or_o statute_n and_o not_o 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o greek_a word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o of_o the_o septuaginta_fw-la be_v use_v in_o the_o same_o sense_n for_o precept_n and_o commandment_n as_o you_o yourself_o confess_v cap._n 1._o sect_n 50._o that_o very_a often_o in_o the_o scripture_n it_o signify_v commandment_n but_o the_o septuaginta_fw-la you_o say_v be_v sufficient_a to_o teach_v we_o the_o interpretation_n of_o the_o hebrew_n word_n who_o always_o interpret_v it_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d if_o they_o have_v always_o interpret_v it_o so_o it_o be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o teach_v we_o then_o there_o need_v none_o other_o translation_n but_o according_a to_o they_o then_o must_v you_o depart_v from_o your_o vulgar_a translation_n which_o in_o many_o thing_n depart_v from_o they_o but_o where_o you_o say_v they_o always_o interpret_v the_o hebrew_n word_n chukim_n by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d it_o be_v false_a for_o exod._n 18._o v._o 20._o 〈◊〉_d they_o translate_v it_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d praecepta_fw-la which_o your_o vulgar_a translation_n call_v ceremonias_fw-la ceremony_n as_o it_o do_v also_o gen._n 26._o v._n 5._o where_o the_o septuaginta_fw-la translate_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o which_o you_o see_v that_o justification_n be_v not_o always_o the_o english_a for_o the_o greek_a word_n which_o the_o septuaginta_fw-la do_v use_n also_o num._n 9_o v._n 3._o for_o chukoth_v they_o translate_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o law_n which_o the_o vulgar_a latin_a call_v 〈◊〉_d ceremonias_fw-la ceremony_n and_o for_o the_o hebrew_n word_n misphatim_o they_o give_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d comparation_n the_o vulgar_a 〈◊〉_d latin_a justification_n by_o which_o you_o may_v see_v how_o your_o translator_n use_v even_o the_o latin_a word_n that_o you_o make_v so_o much_o a_o do_v about_o likewise_o in_o the_o fourteen_o verse_n of_o the_o same_o chapter_n the_o septuaginta_fw-la translate_v chukath_v twice_o together_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o that_o which_o the_o vulgar_a latin_a call_v justification_n of_o the_o passover_o the_o greek_a call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o order_n of_o the_o pascall_n deut._n 4._o your_o vulgar_a latin_a turn_v chukim_v thrice_o ceremonias_fw-la ceremony_n and_o 〈◊〉_d deut._n 5._o twice_o and_o deut._n 6._o twice_o deut._n 7._o once_o and_o so_o common_o almost_o in_o every_o chapter_n but_o in_o the_o chap._n 11._o v._n 32._o the_o greek_a for_o chukim_n have_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d where_o 〈◊〉_d as_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o chapter_n he_o have_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o latin_a in_o both_o ceremonias_fw-la ceremony_n by_o which_o it_o be_v evident_a what_o the_o greek_n and_o latin_n mean_v by_o those_o word_n chap._n 20._o for_o this_o hebrew_n word_n and_o in_o a_o other_o the_o greek_a have_v nothing_o but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d commandment_n so_o have_v he_o 1._o reg._n 2._o v._n 3._o for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d commandment_n also_o 1._o reg._n 8._o v._n 58._o for_o chukim_n he_o have_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d for_o misphatim_o he_o have_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o he_o have_v it_o twice_o in_o the_o next_o verse_n where_o solomon_n pray_v that_o god_n will_v defend_v his_o cause_n and_o the_o cause_n of_o his_o people_n israel_n
paul_n ro._n 5._o v._n 19_o 〈◊〉_d who_o make_v it_o all_o one_o to_o be_v justify_v and_o to_o be_v make_v just_a and_o again_o by_o this_o reason_n that_o it_o shall_v be_v manifest_o repugnant_a to_o god_n justice_n to_o account_v he_o for_o just_a that_o be_v not_o just_a and_o therefore_o that_o man_n in_o deed_n be_v make_v just_a thus_o beza_n will_v you_o not_o think_v he_o be_v come_v to_o be_v of_o our_o opinion_n but_o he_o revolt_v again_o and_o interpreat_v all_o these_o goodly_a word_n in_o his_o old_a sense_n say_v not_o that_o any_o quality_n be_v inward_o qualitas_fw-la give_v unto_o we_o of_o which_o we_o be_v name_v just_a but_o because_o the_o justice_n of_o christ_n be_v impute_v to_o we_o by_o faith_n free_o by_o faith_n then_o at_o the_o least_o we_o be_v true_o justify_v not_o so_o neither_o but_o faith_n say_v he_o be_v a_o instrument_n wherewith_o 2_o we_o apprehend_v christ_n our_o justice_n so_o that_o we_o have_v no_o more_o justice_n in_o we_o than_o we_o have_v glory_n for_o glory_n also_o we_o apprehend_v by_o faith_n fulk_n 2._o all_o learned_a man_n i_o hope_v do_v see_v that_o you_o have_v no_o regard_n how_o vain_o you_o cavil_v so_o you_o may_v seem_v to_o the_o ignorant_a to_o say_v something_o against_o they_o that_o be_v godly_a and_o learned_a act._n 13._o v._n 39_o beza_n translate_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d absolui_fw-la that_o be_v say_v he_o to_o be_v declare_v just_a or_o absolve_v and_o give_v this_o reason_n why_o he_o use_v not_o the_o word_n iustificaâ—i_fw-mi in_o that_o place_n which_o he_o use_v elsewhere_o ne_fw-fr quis_fw-la illud_fw-la ab_fw-la omnibus_fw-la perinde_v acciperet_fw-la ac_fw-la si_fw-la casus_fw-la esset_fw-la modi_fw-la aut_fw-la instrumenti_fw-la per_fw-la quod_fw-la iustiâ—icemur_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la iustifiamus_fw-la ac_fw-la pronunciemur_fw-la aut_fw-la pro_fw-la iustis_fw-la habeamur_fw-la hoc_fw-la quidem_fw-la loco_fw-la malui_fw-la absoluendi_fw-la verbum_fw-la usurpare_fw-la ut_fw-la magis_fw-la perspicua_fw-la esset_fw-la oratio_fw-la lest_o any_o man_n shall_v take_v this_o word_n of_o the_o text_n ab_fw-la omnibus_fw-la as_o though_o it_o be_v the_o case_n of_o the_o mean_a or_o instrument_n by_o which_o we_o be_v justify_v that_o be_v make_v and_o pronounce_v just_a or_o account_v for_o just_a in_o this_o place_n i_o choose_v rather_o to_o use_v the_o word_n of_o absolve_a that_o the_o sentence_n may_v be_v more_o clear_a the_o latin_a ab_fw-la omnibus_fw-la may_v signify_v by_o all_o thing_n or_o from_o all_o thing_n therefore_o jest_n any_o man_n shall_v mistake_v the_o apostle_n as_o though_o he_o say_v we_o be_v justify_v by_o all_o those_o thing_n where_o he_o mean_v we_o be_v justify_v from_o all_o thing_n beza_n in_o this_o place_n use_v the_o word_n of_o absolve_a or_o acquit_v in_o the_o same_o sense_n that_o he_o do_v justify_v in_o other_o place_n where_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o same_o matter_n and_o say_v as_o plain_o as_o a_o man_n can_v speak_v that_o to_o be_v justify_v and_o to_o be_v make_v just_a or_o pronounce_v or_o account_v just_a before_o god_n be_v all_o one_o yet_o our_o momus_n find_v fault_n with_o he_o for_o expound_v to_o be_v justify_v rom._n 2._o v._n 13._o to_o be_v pronounce_v just_a as_o though_o god_n will_v pronounce_v any_o man_n just_a which_o be_v not_o just_a indeed_o but_o beza_n he_o say_v elsewhere_o protest_v that_o to_o be_v justify_v be_v not_o to_o be_v pronounce_v or_o account_v just_a but_o rather_o to_o be_v just_a indeed_o if_o martin_n have_v not_o beely_v beza_n we_o shall_v have_v have_v bezaes_n word_n set_v down_o both_o in_o latin_a and_o english_a but_o in_o truth_n beza_n have_v no_o such_o word_n yet_o in_o sense_n he_o have_v thus_o much_o that_o to_o be_v justify_v before_o god_n be_v to_o be_v just_a indeed_o and_o not_o to_o be_v only_o pronounce_v or_o account_v just_a when_o he_o be_v not_o so_o in_o deed_n but_o that_o we_o be_v make_v true_o just_a indeed_o by_o the_o justice_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v impute_v unto_o we_o free_o by_o faith_n and_o as_o for_o that_o new_a life_n or_o justice_n which_o be_v call_v inherent_a in_o we_o it_o be_v not_o the_o cause_n but_o the_o witness_n of_o that_o justice_n by_o imputation_n of_o which_o we_o be_v save_v follow_v he_o that_o be_v justify_v and_o not_o go_v before_o justification_n and_o faith_n indeed_o be_v the_o instrument_n by_o which_o we_o apprehend_v christ_n our_o justice_n neither_o do_v beza_n say_v that_o we_o be_v not_o true_o justify_v by_o faith_n but_o that_o faith_n be_v not_o the_o principal_a efficient_a cause_n which_o be_v the_o mercy_n of_o god_n but_o the_o instrumental_a cause_n by_o which_o we_o take_v hold_v of_o the_o mercy_n of_o god_n in_o christ_n in_o all_o this_o beza_n have_v say_v nothing_o contrary_a to_o himself_o nor_o to_o the_o truth_n and_o it_o be_v no_o absurdity_n to_o say_v that_o the_o justice_n of_o christ_n by_o which_o we_o be_v justify_v be_v no_o more_o inherent_a in_o we_o than_o his_o glory_n and_o yet_o both_o assure_v unto_o we_o by_o faith_n as_o for_o that_o justice_n which_o be_v a_o effect_n of_o god_n sanctify_a spirit_n and_o a_o fruit_n of_o our_o justification_n before_o god_n by_o which_o also_o we_o be_v justify_v or_o declare_v just_a before_o man_n as_o s._n james_n teach_v be_v inherent_a in_o we_o as_o also_o the_o first_o fruit_n of_o glorification_n by_o that_o peace_n of_o conscience_n &_o joy_n that_o we_o have_v in_o god_n be_v reconcile_v to_o we_o by_o christ._n mart._n 3._o for_o this_o purpose_n both_o he_o and_o the_o english_a 〈◊〉_d bibles_n translate_v thus_o abraham_n believe_v god_n and_o it_o be_v repute_v to_o he_o for_o justice_n rom._n 4._o v._n 3._o &_o 9_o where_o he_o interpreat_v for_o justice_n to_o be_v nothing_o else_o but._n in_o loco_fw-la the_o steed_n &_o place_n of_o justice_n so_o also_o take_v away_o true_a inherent_a justice_n even_o from_o abraham_n himself_o but_o to_o admit_v their_o translation_n which_o notwithstanding_o in_o their_o sense_n be_v most_o false_a must_v it_o needs_o signify_v not_o true_a inherent_a justice_n because_o the_o scripture_n say_v it_o be_v repute_v for_o justice_n do_v such_o speech_n import_v that_o it_o be_v not_o so_o in_o deed_n but_o be_v only_o repute_v so_o then_o if_o we_o say_v this_o shall_v be_v repute_v to_o thou_o for_o sin_n for_o a_o great_a benefit_n and_o so_o forth_o it_o shall_v signify_v it_o be_v no_o sin_n indeed_o nor_o great_a benefit_n but_o let_v they_o call_v to_o mind_n peccatum_fw-la that_o the_o scripture_n use_v to_o speak_v of_o sin_n and_o of_o justice_n alike_o it_o shall_v be_v sin_n in_o thou_o or_o unto_o thou_o as_o they_o translate_v bibl._n 〈◊〉_d 1577_o or_o as_o s._n hierome_n translate_v it_o shall_v be_v repute_v to_o thou_o for_o sin_n deut._n c._n 23._o &_o 24._o &_o as_o themselves_o translate_v it_o shall_v be_v righteousness_n unto_o thou_o before_o the_o lord_n thy_o god_n and_o again_o deut._n c._n 6._o this_o shall_v be_v our_o righteousness_n before_o the_o lord_n our_o god_n if_o we_o keep_v all_o the_o commandment_n as_o he_o have_v command_v us._n if_o then_o justice_n only_o be_v repute_v sin_v also_o be_v only_o repute_v if_o sin_n be_v in_o uâ—_n indeed_o justice_n be_v in_o we_o indeed_o fulk_n 3._o our_o translation_n take_v not_o from_o abraham_n true_a justice_n nor_o yet_o justice_n inherent_a but_o declare_v that_o he_o be_v not_o justify_v before_o god_n by_o work_n that_o be_v by_o justice_n inherent_a but_o by_o faith_n which_o apprehend_v the_o justice_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v altogether_o without_o us._n and_o therefore_o you_o cavil_v in_o your_o old_a rot_a quarrel_n when_o you_o go_v about_o to_o make_v repute_v to_o be_v contrary_a to_o truth_n or_o indeed_o faith_n be_v repute_v by_o god_n to_o abraham_n for_o justice_n indeed_o but_o not_o as_o justice_n inherent_a and_o abraham_n be_v true_o justify_v by_o faith_n 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