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A45152 A plea for the non-conformists tending to justifie them against the clamorous charge of schisme. By a Dr. of Divinity. With two sheets on the same subject by another Hand and Judgement. Humfrey, John, 1621-1719. 1674 (1674) Wing H3703A; ESTC R217013 46,853 129

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recession from it Disputes betwixt Kings and Parliaments we think are not to be determined by private Persons without the doors of the Pallace and Parliament-House nor medled with by the Subject till the matters in difference if any be be agreed by themselves and by some publick action notified to the People We know for the King of England in civil things to suspend the execution of an Act which he hath found inconveniently practicable till the Parliaments meeting and further agreeing in it is no more than hath been done even during this Parliament and possibly to all may not appear unreasonable § 11. Upon this foundation we stand and practice Preaching to our People in places distinct from the Parochial Churches What can we do less May we having this liberty sit still and live without the publick worship of God Thus indeed a very great number of the People of England possibly not inferiour to the N. Con. yet we have rarely heard of one of them Endited Presented or Prosecuted when our Brethren were in their fullest career against the new Recusants at least not comparably to those of their Brethren who they knew were every Sabbath day if not with them yet somewhere strictly worshipping God and either Preaching Christ or hearing him Preach'd Surely our eager Men should rather have bent their Bows and made their Arrows ready against these Atheistical livers than against the Servants of the Living God though of a little different Livery different too not in the Cloath but in the insignificant Fringes and Laces of formes and ceremonies What though they could say which we know in truth they cannot that Christ amongst the Nonconformists was Preached of envy and strife yet had they been of St. Paul's Spirit from whom they pretend to derive though indeed Christ amongst the Noncon had been Preached of Contention and not of Sincerity Yet a little charity would have commanded them to judge as Paul Some out of good will Preached him But however they being as St. Paul saith Phil. 1.16 17 18. Set for the defence of the Gospel should have said after him What then Notwithstanding every way whether in pretence or in truth Christ is Preached and I therein do rejoyce and will rejoyce We shall only say had they been of St. Pauls Spirit they would have said so § 12. We take it to be a confessed Principle That every individual Member of the Church-Catholick Visible is bound in duty both to God and his own Soul to joyn himself to some particular Society of Christians with which he may enjoy all the Ordinances of God so as may be for his Souls advantage What shall therefore these indulged Ministers and People do How shall they live up to this peice of the Divine Will Shall they joyn with the Parochial Societies in their Temples They have professed to the World that the business is so stated by the Act of Uniformity that they cannot do this without doing what they judge sinful If they could neither would the Ministers 1662. have parted together with that publick exercise of their Ministry with the livelihoods also of themselves their Wives Children or exposed themselves to Excommunications Imprisonments Fines Banishments and all manner of Reproach and Obloquy or their Families to the Charitable Baskets of Christians Neither would more private Christians have suffered so much in most of these kinds as they have suffered in vain § 13. It must therefore be in Congregations locally separate from the parochial meetings Accordingly having first obtained his Majestie 's Licenses they practice Presently they hear a great Out-cry of Schisme and sinful separation from true Churches Gathering Churches out of Churches and we know not what nor do we believe they do that clamour at this rate § 14. But the truth of this clamour must be a little examined for the Non-conformists have got very little by his Majesties favour by escaping the hands of men to fall into the hands of the living God We remember when David was in his great strait 2 Sam. 24.14 he acquiessed in this Let me fall into the hands of the living God for his mercies are great and let me not fall into the hands of men We think we may in this case say the same thing and that with some advantage which David had not for his heart smote him for a known sin our hearts as yet do not condemn us for any such black thing as a sinful separation and we do believe those that thus clamour do not well understand what they say Let men rather call us Schismaticks sinful Separatists so we may worship God as his Word and our own Consciences tells us he should be Worshipped purely and in Spirit and Truth rather than we not Worship God at all or so as our Consciences shall continually flie in our faces § 15. But certainly God's Word hath laid us under no necessity of sining let us therefore challenge our confident Accusers to the Law and to the Testimony 'T is worth the while to examine whether this great cry be not Vox et praeterea nihil A clamorous scandal nothing else which we are the more advantaged to hope that it will prove by a noted passage in a great Church-man Mr. Hales his discourse of Schisme It is this Schisme is one of those Theological Scare-Crowes with which they who use to uphold a party in Religion use to fright away such as make any inquiry into it and are ready to relinquish or oppose it if it appeareth to them either erronious or suspicious Not that Schisme truly so called is of no graver importance but that which generally by School-men and Casuists and very many and some of those Learned Divines though like Elias men subject to like passions with other men is no more is as evident as the shining of the Sun at Noon-day to any one who knoweth any thing of Books or of the World § 16. The Greeks say those of the Latine Church are Schismaticks and they because they are the most ancient Church seem to have best right but the whole Latine Church requites them with the same-name of Obloquy The Papist so call the Protestants but they requite them with the like term saying They that gave the cause of the separation are the true Schismaticks Amongst the Protestants the Lutherans so revile the Calvinists nor are the Calvinists behind them Amongst the Calvinists The Episcopal men so call the Presbyterians the Presbyterians so call the Independents and Antipaedebaptists Thus we have called one another Schismaticks round Let us therefore leave these pittiful uncharitable Boyish Revenges especially seeing in vulgar use lately the term hath had no further significancy than to speak persons not of our mind and for a name to brand such of our Brethren with who are a little more inquisitive than others into the things of God and is of the same import amongst Protestants that the word Heretick is amongst Papists that is not one