serve thee with all Sincerity for the Truth 's sake as it is in Jesus William Penn. THE CONTENTS CHAP. I. THE Introduction Our Adversary's Definition of Christianity Defective True Christianity stated Quakerism mistaken by him It is prov'd True Christianity and a Quaker a Right Christian Page 1. CHAP. II. How Christianity was introduc'd it hurts not the Quakers The Question is not of Christ's Visible Coming that is Owned by them Nor is their Religion a New One from that of Christianity but the Recovery of Lost Primitive Christianity since the Reign of Anti-Christ in the World That Quakerism as call'd made its Way by Purity Sorrow and Rejoycing as well as Christianity The Priest's Vilifying Expressions Rebuk'd That the Distinct Times of their Appearance is no Argument against their Harmony or being but Two Words for the same Thing since the same Truth may appear at Two distinct Ages of the World It would strike out J. Faldo as well as the Quakers if the Contrary were admitted That he grosly Contradicts himself as to Time Christianity has more or less been in the World where Godly Men and Women have been as well before as since that Appearance We intend no New Dispensation but the Renewed Revelation of the same Power which is the True Gospel p. 11. CHAP. III. J. Faldo's Charge That the Scriptures are not the Word of God Reasons for it The Scriptures by him urg'd against us clear'd and prov'd to be for us They are the Words of the Word a Declaration of the great Law Word or Commandment but not that Law Word or Commandment p. 24. CHAP. IV. His Charge What he quotes proves it not Revelation Infallibility and Inspiration consider'd The Priest prov'd Uncertain of his own Faith Our Friends debase not the Scripture but Lift them up His Objection about our Books Titles answer'd The Use of Scripture asserted The Light vindicated from Insufficiency Something of the True Rule p. 32. CHAP. V. The Charge Stated not Proved The Scriptures not the most Excellent nor only General Rule God may speak by Instruments The Instruments not the Rule but that which useth them That the Scriptures being Obligatory does not conclude it the General Rule under the Gospel The Dis-ingenuity of our Adversary in citing the Apostle's Words Reprehended The Scriptures no Judge in that sense wherein they are not the General Rule The Scriptures Confest to p. 52. CHAP. VI. We deny the Charge His Proof no Proof but against himself We Own Believe and desire to Obey the Scriptures they afford Comfort and are as Lights in the World but not that True Light The Light and Spirit Superior to them p. 63. CHAP. VII Commands upon Conviction to be obeyed All General Commands Obligatory Particular not but upon particular Commission Our Adversary's Dis-ingenuity The Scriptures a Means by which God may be known but not the Principle p. 70. CHAP. VIII His Charge of our Denying the Scriptures any Means by which God doth enable Men to resist Temptations And that we say they are Dangerous to be read rejected His Proofs lame The Scriptures are believed to be a Means c. The true Knowledge of them Divine No Knowledge of Divine Things but upon Experience It does not destroy Faith W. Penn's Words safe and sound The Priest a meer Shuffler Learning a Servant to Truth Christ the Word of God Faith by our Adversary preferred before Scripture The Scriptures ought to be Read Believed and Obey'd p. 76. CHAP. IX That we do not put the Scripture and Holy Spirit in Opposition The Wickedness of the Priest in his Proof They accord and we acquiesce in their Testimony We do not say that they are not to be obeyed without extraordinary Apostolical Revelation as basely suggested His Proof fictitious and forged Such only are by us deny'd as are only Literal Formal Christians The Scriptures own'd and believ'd in by us according as they testifie of themselves p. 91. CHAP. X. He chargeth us with a Denial of all the Ordinances of the Gospel First in general then in particular His Proof of the first Invalid His great Dis-ingenuity in wresting our Words especially I. Pennington's p. 102. CHAP. XI The first of the particular Ordinances he says we deny is the Ministry His Proof lame W. P. and his Friends defended J. F. and his Gang Reproveable We own a Gospel one but not his The Calling abused by such Pretenders p. 105. CHAP. XII The Second particular Ordinance is a Gospel-Church His Definition for us by its gross Contrariety to the Scripture His base Inference of our Denial of Religious Societies and Outward Gifts from our Friends asserting of but one Catholick Church and that it is in God A Gospel-Church owned Our Adversary proved Heterodox about Apostolical Preaching Inward Sence preferr'd before Intelligence p. 112. CHAP. XIII We deny Preaching says he His Dis-ingenuity in stating our Principles We hold and practise true Gospel-Preaching No Difference between what the Light teacheth and the Scripture Our Gospel is Peace Our Adversary's is War c. True Preaching Converts our Adversary's not p. 117. CHAP. XIV His Charge of our Denial of Gospel-Prayer inverted The Prayer he pleads for Anti-Gospel True Prayer stated asserted and defended with plainness from Scripture and Reason That as well in Families as Meetings and at Meals as both False Worship detestable to God All False wherein God's Spirit is not the first and Chief Mover and Assister The Subtility of Satan in putting upon unacceptable Prayer to prevent true Prayer p. 121. CHAP. XV. His Charge of our Denial of Baptism and the Sacraments introduc'd with a Discourse of positive Commands Destructive of the Foundation of Religion The Priest against God Scripture and Reason He confounds himself Baptism of Water prov'd John's and not to continue Mat. 28. 19. 1 Cor. 1. 17. Ephes 4. 5. cleared and vindicated The One Spiritual Baptism defended p. 129. CHAP. XVI The Supper he says we deny not denyed but fulfill'd The Scriptures consulted No Perpetuity proved That it was a Sign and that Signs were done away in Christ demonstrated The present Practice in the Case not Primitive Our Faith left with God in the Matter p. 141. CHAP. XVII His Charge of our Denying Christ's Transactions to influence into our Justification consider'd His Proofs not for him His Abuse of our Friends words Justification distinguished upon as Remission and as daily Acceptance The Transactions of Christ largely own'd by us The Scriptures confirm our Faith in Christ as a general and particular Saviour No Works of Man Meritorious p. 147. CHAP. XVIII He says we disown the True Christ It is prov'd that He denies in Contradiction to himself what we deny and that we are Scriptural and sound in our Belief And though we cannot exclude that Divinity from the true Christ Yet we also own that the true Christ took Flesh that he appeared for the Salvation of Mankind and that his Bodily Appearance was instrumental in the Point Christ
least what is our Quakerism or Christianity rather and we leave our Belief with that God who made it so to justifie it and us who thus sted fastly hold and daily yet patiently suffer for it by his own Discoveries in the Consciences of Men. But this I will add That since he has rendred us to be one thing in Shew and another in Reality our Appeal is to the God that made Heaven and Earth to right us in the Minds of all § 11. We dare not Believe or Practise what comes not in by True Conviction things meerly Historical excepted and yet there is a Conviction for them to The Devils who knew Christ and trembled were more sensible then those who know him only by Hear-say and make a Mock of that Trembling which seizeth the Contrite Souls of Men for Sin We declare in the Presence of the Eternal God that it was the Striving of the holy Spirit in us that first moved us to solid Repentance and as we came to be judged byit and reconciled unto God in our Minds so have we appear'd before all Men therefore it is utterly False that We cover our Tenets with the Names of Christian Principles since these following which are ours are truly Christian and Scriptural 1. God created Man Innocent in his own Image created he him 2. That Man or all Mankind has faln short of the Glory of God through Disobedience 3. That in the Seed promised Redemption can only be had 4. That this Seed is He that in time was call'd Christ 5. That by this Holy Seed both before and since that Coming the Serpent's Head hath been particularly bruised in all who have been redeemed or saved as the Holy Men and Women of Old and such in every Age as have known a Sanctification 6. That this Seed appeared in the Fulness and Stature of a Man in that Outward Body prepared of God above 1600. Years since and in it encounter'd and conquer'd Satan and trod him under his Feet 7. That he bore the Sin of the World 8. That he laid down his Life a Ransom for all 9. That such as Believ'd and Follow'd him as he then appear'd receiv'd Remission of Sins and Eternal Life 10. That what was then outwardly done did still refer and had relation to an Inward Work in the Souls of Men the Holy Life put forth it self to work Inward Conviction and drive the Mind into a Measure of the same in it self for the whole End of it was to draw the Minds of Men more Inward to a Manifestation of that same Life Vertue Power Wisdom and Righteousness in each Particular which appeared in that Body in General and qualified it to that great Work and sustain'd it under all its Sufferings and put that great Value upon them which really was in them Wherefore to the Divine Power first and to the Holy Manhood next do we ascribe that Great and Wonderful Benefit that thereby came unto the World § 12. But next we must deny his Quaker as well as his Quakerism indeed they go together who misseth one it is unlikely he should hit the other We never said that the Light in every Man was the only Lord and Saviour and very God Let him but show us any passage of any one acknowledg'd to be a Quaker and he will say something But me-thinks he that has quoted so many passages out of our Friends Books to so little purpose should not have neglected to instance in some one of us that hath so exprest our selves it shows that either he thinks to be believ'd Hand over Head or really there is no such Doctrine by us asserted and consequently he knew no such place to cite But for the Upright-hearted in all Forms who are desirous of the Substance that will give Life to the Soul and who stand only at a distance from us on the account of the many frightful Characters their Teachers give of us I shall briefly open our Faith in this Matter § 13. First We assert that all Men are enlightned let it be Lighted in their Souls or Understandings if our Adversaries will This is prov'd from Joh. 1. 9. also whatever may be known of God is manifest within for God has shewn it unto them Again whatever is reproved is made manifest by the Light for whatever makes manifest is Light All Knowledge of God comes by the Light he gives into the Soul as well as that all have that Light though few obey it § 14. Secondly This Light is Divine because it is the very Life of the Word which is God not an Effect of its Power as a Created Light which some vainly fancy but in Him or It the Word was Life and that Life Numerical was the Light of Men what is Life in the Word is Light in Men and who follow that Light as A Reprover of the Deeds of Darkness shall be made Children of Light and have the Light of Life § 15. Thirdly Though we say that all are enlightned by it or receive Light from it yet far be it from us to assert every such Illumination is the only Lord and Saviour and very God By no means but rather thus that the only Lord and Saviour and very God is the great Sun and Light of Righteousness to the Invisible World of Souls and Spirits if I may so speak who manifests unto every particular that which concerns the State of every Individual but not that every such Inlightning should be the Intire Lord Saviour God so that this Priest is already found deficient in his Work he should better have understood us before he had given an Account of us and discovered his Opposition to us What Superstructure can we expect from so infirm a Foundation how shall J. Faldo prove Quakerism no Christianity who is defective in his Definition of both Certainly the Quaker may be the best of Christians for ought he has groundedly opposed to him I am sure he would have thought such a Mistake in us most hainous to say nothing of that Advantage he would have taken to show his little Wit and great Prejudice in aggravating our Ignorance to the World CHAP. II. How Christianity was introduc'd it hurts not the Quakers The Question is not of Christ's Visible Coming that is Owned by them Nor is their Religion a New One from that of Christianity but the Recovery of Lost Primitive Christianity since the Reign of Anti-Christ in the World That Quakerism as call'd made its Way by Purity Sorrow and Rejoycing as well as Christianity The Priest's Vilifying Expressions Rebuk'd That the Distinct Times of their Appearance is no Argument against their Harmony or being but Two Words for the same Thing since the same Truth may appear at Two distinct Ages of the World It would strike out J. Faldo as well as the Quakers if the Contrary were admitted That he grosly Contradicts himself as to Time Christianity hath more or less been in the World where Godly Men
Let him find me says J. Faldo such a Scripture and I will be bound to turn Quaker I perceive the Man thinks he can turn Quaker much at the rate he can Pray I mean when he will but I will tell him so much that it is as hard a Task for him to turn True Quaker as to be a true primitive Christian a thing most difficult to be sure But to his Quibble about But that J. Parnel has told a I willfull Untruth in saying the Baptism is but One suppose it will be allow'd that there was one Baptism in the same sense that there was one Lord one Faith Now if there is but One Lord One Faith as it is to be supposed J. Faldo believes why should it be so Criminal to say there is but One Baptism If saying there is one Lord and one Faith be synonimous or equivalent with affirming that there is but one Lord and one Faith I cannot see how it should be an Untruth to say that there is One Baptism is one and the same thing wish our saying there is but One Baptism In short if there is more then One Baptism because the Apostle does not say there is but one Baptism then there are more Gospels Lords and Faiths because the Apostle did not say there was but one Gospel but one Lord and but one Faith consequently there may be many Gospels Lords and Faiths as well as Baptisms § 7. Enough of this Weakness His Strength follows Water-Baptism is the Sign the Baptism of the Spirit something but not all signified Now to call the Thing signifying and signified by the same Name doth not make them Two of that Name no more then there were two New Covenants because both the Matter contained in it Hebr. 8. 10. and Circumcision the Sign Gen. 17. 13. are called the Covenant I shall grant to him that the Thing signifying and signified are sometimes called by one and the same Name as Baptism But when distinguisht by Water and Holy Ghost I hope nothing that is not as blind or hardened as J. Faldo if yet he himself will say that therefore they are but One Baptism Christ himself distinguishes betwixt John's and his Baptism and himself and his Baptism And frequently his Apostles yea the Baptist himself seem'd to take all Occasions whereby to let People know that his Baptism was but that of Water and that the Baptism of Christ was not of Water but of the Holy Ghost as the Scriptures in the Margent plainly prove So in the Word Circumcision compounded of the same Letters and Syllables let it be used to express that of the Body or the Flesh or that of the Heart in Spirit Yet it is to be hoped that none will conclude there were not Two Circumcisions and so Two Jews the one Inward and the other Outward Though now he is no more a Jew that is one Outwardly neither is that Circumcision which is outward in the Flesh but he is a Jew which is one Inwardly and Circumcision is that of the Heart in the Spirit and not in the Letter whose Praise is not of Men but of God § 8. And should we grant him what he desires as to the same Name being applicable to the Sign and the Thing signified yet Weak and Wretched must his Sophism appear to all clear-sighted Readers For if therefore the Baptism of Water and of the Spirit are One because the same Word is applicable to the Sign and the Thing signified and in that sense they are both of them One Baptism Then by just Consequence must the Circumcision outwardly in the Flesh and the Circumcision of the Heart in the Spirit be One because the Word of it self is equally applicable to both and Consequently they are both of them One Circumcision And here but must and will be allow'd us What Jew Living could have reason'd better for the Continuation and Perpetuity of Circumcision But because he has said nothing here for Baptism more then what may be said for Circumcision and that Circumcision is utterly exploded of the Christian Religion as a Sign whose Signification is come and therefore no more a Sign our Assertion of the One Spiritual Baptism of Fire and the Holy Ghost as onely upon the same Fundation proper to Christ's Kingdom doth remain fix and Immoveable against all the Batteries of our Adversary CHAP. XVI The Supper he says we deny not deny'd but fulfil'd The Scriptures Consulted No Perpetuity prov'd That it was a Sign And that Signs were done away in Christ demonstrated The present Practice in the Case not primitive Our Faith left with God in the Matter § 1. BUt the Quakers he says disown the Ordinance of the Lord's Supper to be now a Gospel-Ordinance for which he cites J. Parnel a Young Man often in his Eye now dead as he was grieveously so to J. Faldo's Brethren the Independents at Cogshall in Essex who by unparallel'd and never to be forgotten Cruelties murder'd him as may be seen in my Second part of our serious Apology pag. 185. 186. 187. His words as he quotes them are these For the Bread which the World breaks is Natural and Carnal so also the Cup which they drink and here is no Communion but what is Outward and Carnal Shield of Truth pag. 13. Also W. Smith thus They Bread and Wine in the Lord's Supper are the Popes Invention His Primm pag. 39. To the first Citation I answer that the Bread and Wine being of an Outward Elementary Nature and Substance may with respect to what they signifie be very properly tearmed Natural and Carnal for so they are And the World that is those who are doing it upon meer Imitation and not from any Heavenly Commission they see no further and their Communion may well be said to be Natural Outward and Carnal To the second I do challenge J. Faldo to make it good and require it at his Hand in the View of the World to produce any such words out of W. Smiths Books and that he may not plead Mistake of Authors I will give him the Scope of all our Books Friends to prove that we ever call'd the Bread and Wine Christ blest the Invention of the Pope O ungodly Man What hast thou done that God should thus give thee up not onely to believe Lyes thy self but to endeavour to make others do the like Thy Book shall be a Milstone about thy Neck in the Day of the righteous and terrible Judgments of Almighty God We deny the Expression and lay the Slander at John Faldo's door § 2. But the Quakers main Objection says he is that Christ is come in Spirit to them and his Disciples were to do it in Remembrance of him till he came therefore this Precept doth not binde them J. Faldo pretends thus to answer But who would think that Christ in the Spirit was not come either in shedding it abroad miraculously as in the 2. of the Acts or as a
Spirit O the Hell-dark Expressions of the Quakers Spirit frightful and amazing Words bitter Curses Howlings and Roarings and what else J. Faldo's Devil pleaseth by which to render the Quakers Odious Well! But to Answer him It was a time of Joy and a time of Sorrow the Spirits of the Just rejoyced that he was born forth into the World and that Sun of Righteousness risen whose Discovering Light and Refreshing Beams would renew the World that had been in great measure bewilder'd since its first Innocent State but therefore was it not a time of Wo Sorrow Terror and Grievous Distress to all the Workers of Iniquity did not Christ come to bring War as well as Peace a Sword a Fire upon Earth Did not his Fore-runner come in an Astonishing Manner in Differing Attire of another Diet and from a Desolate Place to Preach Repentance and to Warn them with an O Generation of Vipers to flee the Wrath to come Did he not say that an Ax a Sharp and Terrible Instrument should be laid to every unfruitful Tree And did not the Apostles Preach to the Pricking of the Hearts of Thousands and Paul by name that Felix himself Trembled and all as knowing the Terrors of the Lord themselves they warn'd others wherefore Judgment is said to have begun at the House of God Finally did not the Devils Howl Roar and Tremble foreseeing they should be dislodg'd by one stronger then themselves Christ the Son of the Living God and was there no Terror Dread and Amazement in all this I perceive it may be a Vertue in the Primitive Christians but a Vice in the Quakers at least in J Faldo's Account § 7. But this know O Impartial People the Quakers were overtaken by the mighty Hand of God and great were their Travels and Pangs of Sorrow under the Righteous Terrors of the Lord whose hour of Just Judgments was come and being thereby made Witnesses of his handy Work and redeem'd through Judgment they became Ministers of Judgment unto others and the Terror of it struck Thousands the Devils Trembled and all Flesh at least in some was as Grass and the Beauty of their Carnal Outside Religion but as the Flower of the Field which in the Name of the Lord we testify fell and wither'd before the Brightness of his Appearance to us who put on Strength like a Giant that was to run his Race and girded himself with Power and who was able to stand before him the Hills melted at his Presence and the Mountains fled before him into the Sea And art thou given up J. Faldo to call Light Darkness and Darkness Light the Terrors of God the Possessions of Satan and the Remorse of Conscience Hell Broke Loose O Unhappy Man The Lord will reckon with thee for this Blasphemous Impiety and this I say to thee and all thy Associates that Eternal Misery will be the End of you for all your sweet Notions of Religion unless you obtain it through the Fire the firy Judgments of the Lord reveal'd in your Consciences For that end is Christ now as formerly manifested that Judgment might be laid to the Line and Righteousness to the Plummet in all and because we earnestly contend for the Inward Work of Christ as the most beneficial to Mankind therefore is it that you Priests have us in Hatred Scorn and Derision all the Day long and indeed we are grievously wronged by your Wickedness and Cruelty but the Lord is our Strength of whom therefore should we be afraid and why do you Rage and Imagine a Vain Thing concerning us § 7. Now for the time when Christianity and Quakerism came as he is pleas'd to distinguish them Some says he date Christianity from the Birth of Christ others WITH MUCH MORE REASON FROM THE RESURRECTION OF CHRIST witness that place All Power is given unto me in Heaven and in Earth The Consequence of this Assertion is thus much That Christ taught not Christianity That his Disciples who believed in him were but better kind of Carnal Jews That Christ's Life Doctrine and Miracles were not perform'd under a State of Christianity That he had not all Power before his Resurrection contrary to the Scripture In short That Christ and Christianity did not go together and if you will that Christ was not Christ but a good extraordinary Jew before his Resurrection for I am sure his Notion of the Beginning of Christianity warrants the Consequence O the Orthodoxality of this Wiffling Priest Busy-Body and Conceited enough Well but this is not all we have a Contradiction to add to his Burden Christianity made its Way by many Signs and Wonders wrought before Multitudes and that not only by Christ himself but also by his Disciples and Servants BOTH BEFORE AND AFTER HIS DEATH If this be not Giving and Taking Granting and Denying there is no such Thing in the World For here is Christianity before Christ's Death and yet WITH MUCH MORE REASON here is a Denial of that Assertion and AFFIRMING THAT IT TOOK ITS RISE AFTER HIS RESURRECTION Truly we need not much fear the Consequence of such Encounters when our Adversary puts Weapons into our Hands to his own Shame and Overthrow § 8. But that he may be further kind to us he proceeds The Disciples were called Christians at Antioch Act. 11. 26. but the Thing Christianity might well be before the Name Christian Enough for us Sober Reader to defend our first Chapter but a Woful Contradiction to himself where we say that what was call'd Christ was before the Name and something of the Excellent Nature of Truth Purity Holiness which leads to Salvation c. which the Word Christianity with us imports at large unless they should be excluded as any parts thereof which supposeth a Christianity Destitute of Truth Purity Holiness c. like that of this Age though in no appearance so clear as in that in which Christ visibly manifested himself § 9. But upon Peter's Words If any Man suffer as a Christian let him not be ashamed 1. Pet. 4. he observes Here Christianity is Distinguisht both from Judaism and Heathenism Both the Gentiles and the Jews were bitter Enemies to the Christian Name and that not for the Name but the Thing 's sake This must either regard the Apostate Jew and Gentile and so we close or the Jew and Gentile upon their Inward Knowledge of God and Obedience to him and here we recede and must deny his Assertion nay it would be a Contradiction to that Justice Purity and Worth he allows them to have had since it were to say that such Qualifications could be Ignorant of Christianity the Perfection of them for the Good among them became Disciples at least Lovers of the Christian Religion then not Haters of either Name or Thing For where among Jews or Gentiles their Hearts were Upright to God according to that Discovery he made of himself to them and that they kept to the divine Sence and Relish which they
had of the Love Purity Justice Mercy Goodness and Recompence of God for such as in any Age could come to God did first know that God was and that he was a Rewarder of all those that did draw nigh unto him to obtain which knowledg God had manifested it in man for he had shown it there unto him I say those who so retained the Sence of God in their knowledg were not aggriev'd Christianity should take Place for they measuring things as they inwardly felt them were proper Judges of Gods Rising and Breaking forth among the Sons of Men they could feel him leading out of and beyond the Use of those Elements which were once added because of Weakness and now became beggarly by a brighter Glory An inward sense being that they kept to as the more sure Word as they felt a with-drawing of the divine Life Power Spirit out of those inferiour Institutions they followed it not staying in any outward dispensation because God had been there if he had once left it But such as were Litteral Formal Exact Critical they were the Persons who having least of the Divine Sight and Sense of God's goings among the Sons of Men they contended for God's Exteriour Appointments as that they were signally given Good Men had Practised them and are we Wiser then our Fathers No we will have our Reasons indeed Darkness satisfied in the Matter Behold the Pharisee and Greek of Old to whom Christ's outward Appearance was to the one a Stumbling Block and to the other Foolishness and the many-headed Professor now who esteems no better of his Spiritual Manifestation in the Hearts of the Children of Men. O! what will the End be of the Gawdy Obstinate Hypocrites of this Age who resist so great Salvation Tribulation and Anguish forever unless they repent for what Men Sow that they shall Reap and who have improved their Talent shall enter into the Joy of their Lord. § 10. Well But when came this Quakerism into the world he tells us about the year 1651. quoting E. B's Epistle before G. F's Gr. Mist also a small Treatise writ by J. Whitehead and J. Pennington from whence he infers that Quakerism is a Late Dispensation therefore not that of Christianity But certainly this Man hath taken a very Quick Course to Un-Christian himself and all the Presbyterians Independents and Anabaptists in the World as well as the Quakers For I would ask him if there was not a Time since the Primitive Age wherein Darkness had overspread the Earth the Beast did Reign and the Pure Religion was wholly Wildernest If So Consequently the Resurrection of Truth is no more a New Dispensation or not that of Christianity then a Man that is exiled his Country is not essentially the same Man when he returns that he was before And so far is my Argument for those Separatists that though I take them to be short of the True Evangelical Faith and Righteousness yet I acknowledg them to have a Reformation unknown in that thick Apostacy which has couer'd the World and Ecclipst the blessed Light of the Glorious Gospel that shin'd in the first Ages after Christ But since we are of another Religion by his Account then the Christian because we cannot say that we were alwayes successively from the Apostles Time I will argue that the Presbyterians Independents and Anabaptists are not Christians nor is what they profess to be esteem'd Christianity because they cannot prove a Regular Succession from the Apostles Times their Date also being of later years What will they say then The Church was fled into the Wilderness Truth exil'd God as a stranger in the Earth yet Truth still the same in it self Very well so say we God was pleas'd to Renew the Right Christian Dispensation to us and by us according to John's Vision that the Everlasting Gospel was preacht again intimating that their had been a Time wherein it was not preacht If this be not a New Gospel because anew or again preacht neither is that which J. Faldo calls Quakerism a New Dispensation because it is Preaching anew the Everlasting Gospel to the Sons of Men which is God's Power inwardly manifested for the Conviction Conversion Redemption and Salvation of the Souls of such as believe in it § 11. And though he particularly seems to Triumph over Isaac Pennington's Distinguishing between the Dispensation of Moses Christ and his Apostles and THIS of our Day as if they had been three several Dispensations and consequently if Christ's was not that of Moses because it swallow'd it up neither this the Dispensation of Christ which J. Pennington saith it swallows up yet to me it seems a pittiful Catch and shows he knows not how to take things with that Candor they are writ J. P. means not a Distinct Administration in Kind but Dispensation of one and the same Light Life and Power by Nature at several Times and sundry Manners to the World Christ was before the Law under the Law with the Prophets but never so revealed as in that Holy Manhood will it therefore follow he was not Antecedent to that Appearance or He that appeared then more gloriously had never shown himself before Or because of a Difference in Manifestation therefore not the same HE through all those several Manifestations in himself Certainly this Man is very Unjust to J. P. especially when the Words above quoted that speak of a Dispensation he experienced a little before God broke forth by us called Quakers could have informed him that he meant the Divers Breakin gs forth of God's Light and Truth in order to the full Discovery and Recovery of Lost Primitive Christianity So that this present Appearance swallowing up all going before it had so term'd it as he doth not and therefore wrong'd is no more then God's Retriving to us the Ancient Gospel with additional Blessings and Assistances giving us the same Life and Foundation they had and what else he pleased by way of Improvement which alters not the Nature no more then a Child in Christ is not that Numerical Creature but another Distinct Being when a Man And if this Account of Things will not satisfie him he may chuse I have thus far cleared the Truth and those who sincerely profess it and therein my own Conscience both to God and the World CHAP. III. J. Faldo's Charge That the Scriptures are not the Word of God Reasons for it The Scriptures by him urg'd against us clear'd and prov'd to be for us They are the Words of the Word a Declaration of the great Law Word or Commandment but not that Law Word or Commandment § 1. THis Chapter will concern the Scriptures more directly in which we hope to prove that not We but our Adversary is mistaken with respect to what he chargeth upon us § 2. He intitles his Chapter thus That the Quakers Deny the Scriptures I was almost astonisht at it because he pretended to prove all out of our own Books
and none such had ever yet come to my hand But upon my sober Perusal of the Matter I found this to be the Upshot That the Quakers Deny them to be the Word of God therefore they deny them altogether Whence I take good Heart to show his Ignorance or great Dishonesty § 3. I will allow to him without going any farther that the People called Quakers do deny the Scriptures to be the Word of God and therefore shall take for granted what he quotes out of J. N. F. Howgil J. Parnel and W. Smith But that we do consequently Deny the Scriptures we shall oppose we hope to the Death § 4. I do declare to the whole World that We believe the Scriptures to contain a Declaration of the Mind and Will of God in and to those Ages in which they were written being given forth by the Holy Ghost moving in the Hearts of holy Men of God That they ought also to be Believed Read and Fulfill'd in our Day being Useful for Reproof and Instruction that the Man of God may be perfect And that they have been and are Instrumental to great Good upon the Spirits of People by the secret Power of God which often strikes and presseth home to the very Conscience the weighty Truths declar'd therein yet We do Deny them to be the Word of God ascribing that alone to Christ himself and that not without Scripture and Reason § 5. First It is granted on all hands that Christ is expresly called in Scripture the Word of God but no where that the Scriptures are so styled Secondly That though I should allow it to be a Figurative Expression and therefore says our Adversary Improper yet because a Word among Men conveyes the Mind of one unto another and that Christ is the great Word of God that in all Ages hath convey'd or spoken the Mind of God unto Mankind and so the Author of all good Words he only may by way of Right and Excellency be so styl'd of Us. Thirdly I shall easily grant to him that one Word may stand representative of many and that the Ten Words were not Ten Numerical Words because each Word contained many yet this I will say that Word in Scripture is taken for Commandment and they have an equivalent Signification as in Deuteronomy may be seen And since that was the Import of the Ten Words to wit Ten Commandments each Word has its own Commandment Therefore it is no more against us to allow those Ten Words to be more then Ten Words then Ten Commandments to have more then Ten Words And whatever our Adversaries may say or think of us We therefore Decline to call the Scriptures the Word of God because we believe It to be a Title only due to that Living Quickning Word by which God vouchsafes to disclose his Mind and Will unto Man-kind Christ the Way to the Father § 6. But sayes our Adversary to this Argument The Word was God therefore the Scriptures cannot be the Word because they are not God Let me tell you that the Scripture may be the Word and Christ the Word also and yet though Christ be the Word of God the Scriptures the Word may be quite another thing Certain I am this is quite another thing then good Doctrine How can the Scriptures be the Word of God and Christ the Word of God too Are there two Distinct Words of God the one quite another thing from the other O shameful Arguing If he had said Christ is the Word of God and the Scriptures a Word of God he would have a little better hit the Mark But to assert Two General Comprehensive Words of God sounds Harsh and Inconsistent I would fain know in Case we should admit this absurd Assertion how he would distinguish between these Two General Comprehensive Words For my part I think it as good Sense to call a King's Letters King or an Ambassador's Credential's Ambassador O no says our Adversary you Mistake Christ is called a Light a Rock a Lyon will it thence follow that there are no other Lights Rocks or Lyons I Answer There is no other Light Rock or Lyon then Christ with respect to That for which He is so call'd Neither is there any other Word then Christ with respect to that for which he is so styl'd to wit God's Living Powerful Word And this decides the Controversie and plainly adjudges us the Matter against the utmost Force of our Adversary to the Contrary For if he is therefore a Light because he only can and doth Discover the Unfruitful Works of Darkness a Rock because whoever build on Him is Safe and a Lyon because the King of all whose Utterings are able to Terrifie all Destruction from his Walks but what he brings upon his Adversaries and therefore there is not another Light to inlighten Man's Soul or Rock for Christ's Church to be built on neither any other Lyon to secure them from the Devourer consequently because he is the Living Spiritual Powerful Word of God there is not another that 's The Word of God § 7. But he further says That the Word of God is so exprest in Scripture as it must needs be understood not of Christ but the Scriptures He that regardeth not the Word of the Lord. He that feared the Word of the Lord Stand thou still a while that I may shew thee the Word of God the Sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God And the Cares of the World choak the Word and it becometh Unfruitful Mark 4. 19. which saith he cannot be understood of Christ or God and that a little Skill in the Original would free us from these Mistakes and to that Purpose To which I answer that the Word of the Lord mention'd in Exodus and Samuel are properly to be understood of the Living Spiritual Word of God which spoke to the People through those Servants of the Lord For who Received or Rejected the Mind of that Word exprest in many Words received the Word and it had a place in their Hearts or else rejected it and it had no place in them This makes nothing against us in the least For that Passage in the Ephesians Beza whom he quotes I suppose as embracing his Judgment has determin'd the Matter for he has it the Spiritual Sword Then let us read the Words thus The Spiritual Sword is the Word of God or The Word of God is the Spiritual Sword For Christ is as truly a Sword an Ax a Fire which the Word of God is call'd as a Lyon a Rock a Door And for the last Passage out of Mark which seems to carry most of Weight in it for our Adversary it may rightly be understood of that Truth which Christ the Word livingly sows in the Hearts of Men Women the Word of Advice Reproof Instruction and the like But of the Scriptures it cannot be understood as neither can any of the other places For first those
two Passages in Exodus and Samuel concern only particular Cases at a time when not a third part of the Scriptures were written as our Adversary will confess And for that in the Ephesians 't is manifest that the Scriptures are not the Spiritual Sword or Sword of the Spirit which are subject to so many Casualities as they are therefore not the Word of God whose Edge never blunts For as is the Spirit such is the Sword and such the Word to wit Living Spiritual Powerful which the Scriptures of themselves I think all will or should acknowledg are not I will not stick to confess also that a Word of Advice a Word of Counsel a Word of Reproof and a Word of Comfort lodge in the Scripture or the Scriptures with respect to the Times wherein they were given forth and now daily as brought home to the Conscience by the One Word of God who gave them first forth are Words of Truth Knowledg Wisdom Love Reproof Exhortation Edification c. yet never can we be brought to attribute unto the Declaration that Title which is peculiarly due to Him whose Declaration it is A Prince may express his Mind in Words but those Words are not that Prince neither can any one of his Titles as a Living Prince be properly given to his said Declaration Nor have we any other Way to Distinguish between the Word and Words Commandment and Commandments the Thing It self and those Expressions by which it doth declare it self then the Word of God and the Words of the Word which are Words of God or Holy Writings Holy with respect to the Matter or Truth they treat of § 8. But here J. Faldo steps in and seems to offer an Expedient in this Streight Says he Though you say they are not the Word of God eminently and I believe so too for the Scriptures cannot be the Word of God in that Sense wherein Christ is yet you may call them the Written Word of God for so we Distinguish them Truly this seems pretty modest though here we must part too unless he will come a little nearer For neither can the Word of God properly be said to be written The Words by which the Mind or Will of the Word is exprest may be recorded and as such a True Declaration but it is as Impossible for the Word of God to be written as it would be for a Prince or Senate to be written or contained in Letters though their Will and Pleasure may be largely declared by a Writing because it would be to say that the Word of God could grow Old Decay be Lost mis-Rendred Corrupted Transcribed Reprinted Corrected and be Subjected to Fire Water Vermin c. which were impossible So would it be an absolute Derogation from the Dignity peculiarly Due to the Living Word of God to give that which is its proper Title to any thing beneath its Living Powerful Quickning Self He has a Scripture or two for us I have written to him the great Things of my Law A sharp Rebuke says he to the Objecters against the Written Word of God but I don't see it for my share The great Things of the Law Word or Commandment which are required may be written but that doth not follow that the Eternal Law Word or Commandment Requiring is a written Law Word or Commandment but the Contrary And for Moses Writings of which Christ spoke 't is manifest they were not call'd the Word of God but the Word of God himself call'd them Writings § 9. But J. Faldo objects on t'other hand that he much feareth the Scriptures will lose of their Authority with People in case they should not be so acknowledg'd and at last he falls so down right upon us that he boldly but weakly concludes who Deny the Scriptures to be the Word of God deny them in every respect For who Denyes them that Title denyes what they have been generally Known by Distinguisht from and Lifted up above all other Writings and that Appellation on which is grounded their Authority and which puts an Awe upon the Consciences of Men. How Weak and Vain this is I could freely leave to the Reader without any further Consideration But that it might not be thought by any therefore Unanswerable I will say That to call them the Words of God and declared Mind and Will of God to Mankind is no such Diminutive Title but altogether Worthy of them § 10. If we do Deny to them what has been wrongly Attributed that no ways Lessens their Authority but Corrects the Mistake of those who thought of them beyond what they really are It is a poor Begging of the Question to say We Deny them that which many have Ascrib'd to them Their Authority is grounded upon the Living Word of God and who comes to that Honours the Scripture aright and who Err from the Holy Conduct of it their Verbal Praises of the Scripture are but like the Pharisees Painting the Prophets Sepulchres whilst they were Persecutors of One greater then the Prophets And who knows not how much the Shell hath had ascrib'd unto it the Honour only due to its Substance by those Watchmen of the Night whose Dark Minds could see no farther § 11. And for the Awe they have upon Men this is my Judgment and I am not asham'd of it that Attributing so much to the Letter of the Scriptures and Declining that Regard Men ought to have had unto the Holy Living Word of God that alone creates all things New and was the Author of and Rule to those sound Words themselves hath Rob'd the Living Word of God of its True and Rightfull Honour and rendred Mens Hearts more Formal and less Aweful then they would otherwise have been So that the only Way for People to come to a True Sight of Sincere Respect for and Grounded Belief in the Holy Scriptures is to be turned to the Voice of the Living Powerful Word of God from whom they came which is nigh unto every one to Direct and Order and Discipline to and in that Way of Holiness they testifie of and which Leads to Eternal Happiness CHAP. IV. His Charge What he quotes proves it not Revelation Infallibility and Inspiration consider'd The Priest prov'd Uncertain of his own Faith Our Friends debase not the Scripture but Lift them up His Objection about our Books-Titles answer'd The Use of Scripture asserted The Light vindicated from Insufficiency Something of the True Rule § 1. HIs Fourth and next Chapter to be examin'd endeavours to prove That we Equal our Writings and Sayings to the Scriptures and preferr them before the Scriptures In this Undertaking he must either prove what he asserts from our own Writings expresly or consequentially To run through every Quotation he makes would be as Tedious as Importinent But a few of what make most to his Purpose I will faithfully observe with his Inferences § 2. He begins with a Book Intituled Love to the Lost and so
out of that Sense in which they were given forth and to an other End then that for which they were given forth which proves to us that the Sense and not the Words shows the End of their being so given forth The Scriptures are a Sealed Book to all but those who know them by the same Hand which Originally gave them So that however Common they may be in the World they are Strangers to them that understand them not And though Old respecting the Time when they were revealed to the Saints yet New to every Age so that we assert not a Revelation of New Things but renewed Revelation of those Things God made former Ages Witnesses of otherwise Men are no more benefited by them And to be benefited they must be made ours by the Spirit which made them the Holy Ancients § 7. In short No Man can understand Spiritual Things but the Spiritually Discerning None can so be without the Inspiration of the Almighty or Spirit of God This is Scripture Now the Author of those Queries and J. Faldo also Denying Inspiration they consequently deny themselves to be Spiritually Discerning and for Men not Spiritual to Judge of Religious and Spiritual Matters much less to Write of them and bid their Writings go and throw down Self-Will and exalt the Truth is Vain and Idolatrous For the Scriptures themselves consider'd meerly as such are unable much less Writings founded on the Authority of Self Will for it is the alone Priviledge of God's Power and Spirit and no Writing whatever distinct from it can perform that Great and Mighty Work in Man § 8. And for Equaling our Writings with the Scriptures because we assert Inspiration and that what we have received and do declare of the Things of God is from the Revelation of his Spirit in our Hearts it is a Foolish Inference Truth was and is Truth all the World over and there was and is but One Way to come to it in all Ages I mean Inspiration The Scriptures are True and our Writings are True but will it therefore follow that we bring them upon a Vie Is this your Disputant But to determine this Case He should first have prov'd if he could what Power God gave to the Ancients and what to Us. How much of his Spirit to those Ages and what to This or else he loseth himself If he can Experimentally tell what were their Discoveries and Experiences and what are Ours he would be a Proper Judge But to think to run us down by Exalting them or to lessen what we are by Increasing their Praise is an old Artifice of the Devil and Sober Men will be more True to Themselves and Just to the Matter then so to censure us Cannot one Man be another Man's Brother and not the Elder Brother Doth it follow that because God has made what we know our own by his Holy Inspirations and Operations that therefore we put our selves upon the Comparison with the Ancients If true Christians fill up or add to Christ's Sufferings yet behind why should their Writings be shuffled out of all Relation to the Scriptures There may be a Relation where there is not an Equality much less a Preference and that we do assert against all Opposers § 9. But now let us see what he says of our setting the Scriptures beneath our own Writings and I will take his own Way to do it The Characters of the Scriptures given by the Quakers as says J. Faldo Characters of their own Teachers Writings and Sayings given by them Feeding Death with Death The Letter which Killeth Declar. from the Minist of the Word p. 7. The Voice of the Son of God was utter'd forth by him by which the Dead was rais'd F. H. Life of E. B. p. 20. Seeking the Living among the Dead J. Parn. Shield His Words Ministred Grace to the Hearers Fox jun. Life E. B. A Mistake for he dy'd before E. B. Reconciliation Death is a State without the Living Experimental Knowledg of God and his Work in the Heart And that State will talk of the Fame of Wisdom as saith the Scripture and that from the Scripture that is from or in the words of Scripture being Ignorant of the true Sense of the Scripture thinking there to have Life which Literal Knowledg it feeds upon and contents it self with where Nations have lain Apostatized from the Life of God and Power of Godliness The Letter Killeth that is the Literal Knowledge or rather their Imaginations from the Letter not being Divinely Inspir'd so as to understand it by which Men buoy and lift up themselves as Christians in the World and yet are Strangers to the inward sensible Work of God And it does Kill the Soul with respect to that true Life the Spirit and Power of God begets in all right Christians through whom the Voice of the Son of God has does and will utter it self to the Ends of the Earth for the Raising the Dead in Trespasses and Sins as that worthy Servant of God did which is now with his Lord. This disreputes not the Scriptures but those who make a wrong Use of them nor is there any Comparison betwixt Reading what God's Spirit requires immediate Hearing his Voice and being sensible of his present living Touches upon the Soul Writings are but holy Things at second hand a Living Ministry is the very Life Power and Spirit present and more immediate In short the Testimony of F. H. we prefer not before the Testimony Luke gives of holy Stephen We prefer the Scriptures before all Writings but before God's immediate Power we dare not do Paper Ink and Writing the same pag. 7. A Shield of the Truth Title J. P's Book Reconcil What 's this to the purpose We say that the Scriptures or the Writings not the Things written of mark that are Paper Ink and Writing which was spoken abstractively and upon a Comparison of them with the Word of God that was with God and was and is God over all blessed for ever Doth any Man think that we believe greater things of J. Parnel's Book By no means He call'd not his Book consisting of so much Writing Ink and Paper a Shield of Truth but that of which it treated was the Truth and with respect to the Controversial part of it as it was writ in Defence of the Truth it might be tearm'd a Shield in which sense the Scriptures by him urged have the upper-hand of his Writing by whose greater Authority with Men he abets and maintains the Doctrine contended for Shews you I suppose the Light your own Faces which the Scriptures cannot do Scorned Quak. accounts p. 20. A Spiritual Glass opened Smith ' s Cat. c. Morn Watch. Reconcil This can be no way hard to reconcile For when we say the Scriptures cannot show Men at all Times and in all States their Conditions but the Secret In-shining Light of God alone we are not so unworthy as to intend that any Book of
ours can No but with respect to that Principle which it directs to and is able to tell a man All that ever he did The only Spiritual Glass and which the best of Writings fall short of Precepts and Traditions of Men Morn Watch p. 18. Truth 's Principles Title of Crook ' s Book Reconcil It is deny'd that ever any such Words were ever spoken or written of the holy Scriptures as Precepts and Traditions of Men for they contain the holy Precepts and Traditions of the Word of God who is God himself it is base and unworthy thus to mince and mis represent our Writings For Truth 's Principles it signifies no more then the Declaration of what we believe as the very beginning of the Book expresly proves That Light is in the Scriptures prove that or tell me what one Scripture hath Light in it Lip of Truth p. 7. Light risen out of Darkness Title of Farnsworth's Book Reconcil There is not Light in the Scriptures that is there is not Living Spiritual Essential Light in the Scriptures or by way of Excellency but a descriptive and declarative Light they carry with them of the true Light the Author of those excellent Things therein mention'd In which Sense alone do we understand Richard Farnsworth's Title God having caused his Light to spring out of Darkness and he being then the Witness of it testified to the Truth thereof by a Declaration to the World of what he knew in the Matter He did not say That Book was that Light for so it had never been before him that writ it and the Writings of it and what Casualities the Book was or is liable to would fal upon the Light though he bears Record to an Everlasting Spiritual Light that shines Within where his Book cannot be But rather that he knew and witnessed the Visitation of the Day-spring of God's Eternal Light of Life to the World he writ his Book to give Notice thereof calling it by that Name because his Subject treated on doth manifestly import so much not that the Book was that Holy and Eternal Light § 10. Let it suffice to all impartial People that we only desire to make a Difference betwixt the Writings and the Thing written of and to the Eternal Overthrow of our Adversaries not wholly without their own Help since they think the Titles we give our Books very Glorious in themselves most unworthy of them but proper to the Scriptures whom they say we slight Let it be consider'd that not one of those Books is destitute of Scripture but is either generally in a Scripture Style or particularly defended by plenty of express Scriptures cited therefore of Necessity they the Scriptures must also partake with them in Common of those famous Titles And thus far have they the Preference that they are quoted on purpose to give the Truth we write of greater Credit what is that greater Credit but to be exactly agreeable with themselves so that our Adversaries Argument amounts to thus much They therefore prefer their own Writings before the Scriptures because they in all their Writings earnestly endeavour by numerous Quotations to prove what they write to be according to the Scriptures Behold Reader how at one Blow we fall The whole Chapter of this Fallible Errable Uncertain Busie Priest with respect to his Charge of our preferring our own Writings before the Scriptures § 11. But there remain two Things to be considered before we close this Chapter First his untrue Inferences Secondly his base Comparison of us with the Papists with Design to render us Odious to all that abominate their Idolatry First That the Scriptures both are and ever were Superfluous for the Light within as they pretend was alwayes fitted to Inspire every Man and Woman in the same Manner and to all Intents and Purposes as they were inspired and written Which how just and true it is we do reserve the Examination of it to God's Witness in the Conscience of the Reader Only this much I will say that though all Ability was and is in Him whom we declare to be the Light of all Mankind to Reveal the whole Mind of God yet in as much as very few in all Ages were so resigned up to the Holy Conduct of it as they ought to have been the Lord hath put it into the Hearts of Many to stir up the Negligent and Sloathful by a Reminding them with that Counsel in outward Writings or other Verbal Testimonies which they had long slighted in themselves that it might Instrumentally work upon them unfeigned Repentance and Conversion to God Therefore went God's Messengers forth Line upon Line and Precept upon Precept here a little and there a little But this I affirm and that in the Name of the Lord against the uttermost Strength of this Busie Priest that had those Prodigal◠in all Ages lived up to that Measure of Divine Light the Talent God gave to every Individual there had not been any such need for those Messages Wherefore the Occasion of them was not for want of any sufficient Gift from God but because of their own Rebellion Nay they were the Testimonies of the very Light of Christ in the Prophets and Apostles who were Heirs and Children of Light which they gave forth at divers Times in their several Ages as God pleased to move upon their Spirits with respect to Mankind so that still it was the Light within which so reprov'd and exhorted But suppose that the World had not been so Rebellious neither will it follow but that a slow Improvement of the Heavenly Gift might have occasioned many Divine Exhortations yea the Exercises of Mens Spirits as Davids for Instance in reference to the Spiritual Travel might for the Benefit of others have been written Let us suppose the highest State of Deliverance and Praise Men are capable of arriving at in this World yet Epistles of divine Love Experience heavenly Praises c. might have been transmitted from Church to Church as of the Flock and Family of God Therefore I utterly deny that the Perfection of the Light 's Teachings makes the Scriptures superfluous much less the general best Attainments that have been and now are in the World § 12. But that any Man so conceited of his Abilities as J. Faldo should so basely mistake Reason and abuse his Reader as to infer from the Ability of the Light in It self whether obey'd or not obey'd the Uselesness of the Scriptures or Testimonies of holy Men to the World is Ground for just Censure and severe Rebuke for it were to say that because a Master is of himself able enough therefore all Books are superfluous The Scripture don't argue the Insufficiency of the Light since so the Instrument would rise against its Principal but the Insufficiency of the Creature in which condition Line upon Line and Precept upon Precept may by the Light within good Men be given forth to invite and encourage Man to yield Obedience to the Conviction
not more obvious at Noon-day in a clear Sky then this must be to all Discerning Minds so that the Scriptures though professedly own'd by us to be Instrumental to the Knowledge of that Doctrine of Reproof and Instruction in Righteousness weightily mention'd by the Apostle Paul for certainly they do declare to us very Excellent Precepts and Rules yet they are so far from being THE General and Absolute Rule that the very Light or Spirit of Christ is and ought to be our Rule how far which Way and to what End we are to believe and practise them And I cannot forbear at this time though I have often done so to shew the horrible perversion of Scripture this Man is guilty of in the last of these two Scriptures by him quoted for Proof of the Third Head The Apostle in his Defence against the Publick Orator of the Jews tells the Governour then present among other Passages that though he was no Disturber as accused yet said he I confess that after the Way which they call Heresie do I Worship the God of my Fathers Believing all things which are written in the Law and the Prophets and have Hope towards God which they themselves also allow that there shall be a Resurrection of the Dead both of the Just and the Unjust § 6. Now brings in J. Faldo these words all things which are written in the Law and the Prophets do I exercise my self to have a Conscience void of Offence towards God and toward Men. I do say this is a perversion of Scripture for he hath First left out that which is more applicable to the Words and put that only in which is least so and Next he has done it in the same Character by which common Readers may be mistakenly strengthned against us this is plain And for the former I affirm that it could not be so proper in the Apostle to say he was exercised in his Belief of the Law and the Prophets as in that Way of Worship they call'd Heresie and his Hope of a Resurrection both left out by our Adversary Nor is such a Use of his words sutable to the Condition Paul was in For he having out-stript both the Law and Prophets and being brought to a Brighter Day and more Excellent Dispensation he cannot be so rightly said to have been exercised in that he had left behind him as in the Work of his own Day which fulfill'd and swallow'd up the other Dispensations as but Fore-runners of it which was that spiritual Worship Christ set up and he worshipp'd the God of his Fathers in and endeavour'd to gather others to though they reputed it Heresie and that Hope of the Resurrection of both Just and Unjust which they themselves pretended to own What then could be Paul's Meaning in that Confession to the Law and Prophets I Answer what is ours to the World before whom we stand charg'd by the Professors Tertullus J. Faldo at this Day namely that though he preach'd a further Glory and they therefore accused him of Undervaluing the Law and the Prophets becoming an Heretick Seducer and what not as this Man doth us he then as we now made his Defence confest to the Law and the Prophets yet testified to a more Spiritual Worship but unto which they prophetically tended Whence we observe 1 The greatest Enemies to the Spirituallity of that Evangelical Dispensation where the greatest Professors of a Literal Religion the only seeming Admirers of the Scriptures and earnest Contenders for the Faith and Religion once delivered to the Fathers at least as they pretended 2 That they were wont to account such as were eminent Promotors of the Gospel Contemners at least Slighters of the Law and the Prophets What need I say any more Behold a Parallel as plain as Light it self The Literal Jews then the Literal Christians now the Spiritual Jews then the Spiritual Christians now § 7. But one Passage more The Holy Scriptures determine according to their kind or as much as a WRITING can do whether we believe or practise aright or not For sayes he Those who come under the Executative Determination of Laws do find that Process in Writing doth not loose its Force for the Decrees and Sentences being put into that Form To his Assertion and the Instance he brings to prove it I will return this Answer To say the Scriptures determine as far as a WRITING CAN does our Adversaries business I mean for us since it manifestly implies that it is not so determinative of all Cases as some thing else may be which is a more Living Immediate and Infallible Judge then a WRITING is or can be and we will grant that the Scriptures do determine as much as any Writing in the World can do unless God would please immediately and more full to Reveal something less clearly laid down in the Scriptures and then should require that Revelation to be Written for Men must have a care of limiting either his Power or Will If J. Faldo had at the beginning of his Opposition to the Quakers Belief in the Scriptures well consider'd this I am of opinion that either he would have never given himself and us the trouble of so much needless Discours or have been so Careful of his Cause as never to have wounded it with this fatal Blow that the Scriptures can determin as far as a Writing will go Nothing to the Question at all which lyes here Whether any the best Writing or the Spirit of Truth that gave it forth is Judge and as far from his purpose as quite loosing of his Cause amounts to Again § 8. His Instance about the Law is lame for the good Laws of any Land are but Reason Written or rather declared by writing which is oblieging against the Corruption of a Judge but not the Reason of the Judge Neither is the Law the Judge but there is a Judge who interprets and speaks from the fresh Discoveries of his own Reason the Meaning and Intendment of those written Laws If the Laws be Sufficient without a Judge why is there a Judge If then they are Dark Obscure and Doubtful in many Cases so as to need a Judge and Interpreter which I call Living and Immediate Reason then since the Scriptures are Writings in which are many Things very Difficult to be understood it follows that there must be an immediate Living Judge which must be therefore the Spirit of Truth that gave them forth because none Knows the things of God save the Spirit of God and that those who are the Makers of Laws are the only Persons who are fit to judge and determine in Case of Difficulty by a declaration of their Mind or Intention in any such obscure Passage So that if J. Faldo should write a Thousand Years against the Quakers he would never be able to weather this one Passage in which he has most evidently subjected the Scriptures to a more Living Spiritual and Immediate Judge then any meer Writing
possibly can be which he makes them but to be § 9. In short either the Scriptures are not obscure a thing we daily see or if so yet sufficient which is impossible or they must have a Judge which is most true and necessary and what Judge but the Spirit of Truth which leads into all Truth And so far are Decrees from determining because written that they are therefore determinative of Controversie because of that Conviction the Power from whence they came works upon the Conscience So that though what is true in it self is not the less so because written yet is not the Writing subject to an hundred Casualities nor Matter therein declared as there eminently the Rule much less the Judge after our Adversaries Notion of a Judge But that Living Powerful Spirit which gave it forth and who are made spiritual Men by it For the spiritual Man judges all things Such Writings may be declaratory of the Mind and Determination of the Living Rule or Judge I grant but also I utterly deny that the Writings themselves are that Rule how People are to believe them and a Judge how to determine of the Difficulties and Obscurities within themselves A meer Begging of the Question and a thing altogether absurd We cannot end this Chapter without an Acknowledgment of the Goodness of God in Opening things so clearly to the making known his Divine Light and Truth and manifestly Discovering the great Darkness and Blindness of its Opposers CHAP. VI. We deny the Charge His Proof no Proof but against himself We Own Believe and desire to Obey the Scriptures they afford Comfort and are as Lights in the World but not that True Light The Light and Spirit Superior to them § 1. THe next Charge he brings against us is a Consequence of his already mistaken Judgment and untrue Assertions concerning us viz. That we take People off from Reading the Scriptures and Looking into them for Instruction and Comfort to prove which as he thinks for none else can that is not either as deeply Ignorant of us or as Malicious against us as J. Faldo shows himself in almost every particular he brings out W. Smith speaking thus in his Catech. pag. 95. And this is the Meaning of our Doctrine to bring People to the Everlasting Word of God in themselves O Ungodly Man What Evil Spirit hath possest J. Faldo into this wretched and impious Consequence Certainly he is grosly blind or he has sinned against the Light of his own Conscience if he hath Conscience enough to think it a Sin which I profess I doubt when the Malignity Frothiness Envy and Impious Unjustice of the Man are set before me For 1 let any tell me if it be a Sin to bring People to the everlasting Word of God in themselves though he Dirts us not a little for so doing 2 If we do hereby take Men off from reading and looking into the Scriptures I do affirm against this Ungodly Priest and that by Authority from God the Scriptures Reason and the first Reformers too that no Man on Earth can understand them but by being first brought to the Everlasting Word of God nigh in the Heart by which the Lord speaks forth his Will to the Creature and the Scriptures themselves direct to this and never said that of themselves some over-doing Priests assert concerning them whose whole End is this that by Exalting the Letter and Excluding the Spirit they may lock up all Knowledge in their own Areanum and plead the Impossibility of Knowing the things of God any other way then by their literal Ministration for should Men be but turned to the Certain Witness of God in their own Consciences there placed of the Lord their whole Trade Power and Reputation would fall and their Deceits be made manifest in the View of the World which God the Righteous Judge of Heaven and Earth is now accomplishing § 2. But he says that J. Parnel censures such that draw Peoples Minds from the Light within to the Light without putting the Letter for the Light c. Shield of Tr. pag. 10. And what then Because we say that he who inlightens all Men God that is the Sun and Fountain of all Divine Light and in whom there is no Darkness at all is greater then the Scriptures therefore will it follow that we take People off from Reading or Looking into them Behold your Priest you that hear him Is this Man to be accounted of as a Minister of the Gospel that thus unrighteously deals with us But God will recompense upon his Head in the Day of his terrible Vengeance for all his Hard and Ungodly Sayings against us We do say and that rightly Whoever puts the Letter in Opposition to or above the Spirit is an Idolater For there can be no Comparison rightly made between them the Heavens don't excell the Earth more then the Spirit does the Letter and the Power the Form But if we do not therefore deny the Form of Godliness because we prefer and press more earnestly the Power neither do we exclude the Scriptures because we prefer and press the Everlasting Word of God nigh in the Heart And this I will tell him that to busie the Minds of Men with the Depth of those Truths the Scriptures declare of by reading and exercising their Minds in Meditating thereon before they have been turned unto the Measure of the Light or Grace of God in the Heart to believe and obey that in its secret Discoveries Reproofs and Strivings is to set Men about Images to conceive a God a Christ a Salvation a Damnation an Heaven an Hell by which the Inward Work of God is overlook't and they become Rich in Notion whilst most barren in Obedience and of all People that live upon the Earth the Greatest Idolaters because they bow down to their own Imaginations for real Truths And this is the State of every Opposer to the Sacred Light within how full soever of the meer Literal Knowledg of the very Scriptures themselves for indeed who knows the new Birth though the Scriptures declare of it but who really experience it § 3. But J. Story he thinks has Contributed much to prove his Assertion in this Passage And although the holy Scripture without and the Saints Practices are as Lights in the World yet far be it from all true Christian Men so to Idolize them as to set them in Esteem above the Light which is sufficient to guide or to esteem them Equal with the Light and Spirit of God within J. S. Short Discourse Pag. 2. To this he objects that J. S. confesses them to be as Lights but not a Light and that our Commendations of that Idol the Light within are such that if they were true he were a stark Fool that would direct his Eyes to the Scripture But here the Priest fail's egregiously For if the Scriptures are as Lights I cannot see how they should be denyed to be as in the
they resist the Grace grieve the Spirit turn from the Way of the Light and are in a State of Death God hath been frequently pleased to move in the Hearts of the Obedient to visit the Rebellious that the Inward Strivings of the Holy Spirit might be the more Efficacious by its Strivings through some Outward Instruments but still it is the same Light Grace or Spirit of God Nor is the Light within any whit the more Insufficient to reclaim the Rebellious if minded for it is the same Light with that which moves in the Hearts of the Obedient to bear Record for God against their Ungodly Deeds Only Mens Minds being far strayed from that Holy Light or Word in the Heart and gone abroad into the wide World of Lusts and Vanities it hath pleased God to visit Mankind so degenerated by those who have been Obedient Children to the End they might be the more easily gained to a Subjection unto the Holy Light in themselves so that all Conviction and Conversion are to be ascribed to the Light Grace and Spirit of God whether immediately in the Creature or mediately by any Instrument Only take this by the way that whatsoever is Efficacious mediately is not to be understood simply of another Man's Measure of Light or Grace but in Conjunction with what God hath given and may be at work in the Party convicted and converting for every Mediate Conviction gives and Addition of Life and Strength to the Immediate Conviction that is wrought by the Operation of that so long neglected Measure of Light Grace or Truth in the particular Conscience We appeal then to every Impartial Person that reads us if we own not the Scriptures in that very Sense he would have People believe that we deny them to wit That God may and doth speak to People through the Writings of the Holy Prophets and Apostles which are commonly call'd Scriptures and consequently we do not deny the Scriptures to be any means by which we may come to know God Christ and Our selves so often as it shall please the Eternal God to reach into the Hearts of Men by any of those Truths therein declared of CHAP. VIII His Charge of our denying the Scriptures any means by which God does enable Men to resist Temptations and that we say they are Dangerous to be read rejected His Proofs Lame The Scriptures are believ'd to be a means c. The true Knowledge of them Divine No Knowledge of Divine Things but upon Experience It does not destroy Faith W. Penn's Words safe and sound The Priest a meer Shuffler Learning a Servant to Truth Christ the Word of God Faith by our Adversary prefer'd before Scripture The Scripture ought to be Read Believ'd and Obey'd § 1. HE further charges us with denying the Scriptures to be any Means whereby to resist Temptation and that we say That they are Dangerous to be read For Proof of which he quotes a Book called Love to the Lost and mine Entituled The Spirit of Truth Vindicated The first is this For those only are Children of God who are led by the Spirit of God to whom they who were led by the Letter were Enemies From whence he concludes That we account it a very dangerous thing to read the Scriptures Now if this Passage hath any relation to his Charge or Conclusion no Man ever saw the like the whole Scope of which is but this That there are Children of the Fleshly Literal and Historical Knowledge of the Scriptures and Religion who are Strangers to and therefore Persecutors of the Children born of the Spirit And that in all Ages there hath been more or less of this among Inward and Outward Jews and Christians and let J. Faldo deny it if he dare How Wicked then is he to extort indeed invent an Inference so forreign to the Matter and then charge it upon the Quakers in general and as if it were prov'd by that Passage in particular which can no wayes be concern'd in any such Unrighteous Doctrine I perceive it is as impossible for our Adversaries to do any thing against us without they have the Making of our Consequences as we are sure to find them mis-shapen enough by that time they get clear of their Hands but blessed be the Name of our God who has given us an Understanding and Boldness both to search the Reins of our Enemies Cause and defend his which he has put into our Hands in this our Day § 2. But hear him further if it may be worth while That this Abominable Tenet is the Quakers Take one Instance more out of their Famous Author W. P. or William Penn. But I will assure them they shall grope in the Dark till they come into the dayly Obedience of the Light and there rest contented to know only as they experience and not from a ravening comprehending Brain that would in its Unregenerated State grasp at the clear Mysteries of the Kingdom into which Fleshly Comprehensions and Notions can never enter but all must be as Unlearned from their first Birth Education and Traditional read Knowledge as he is unman'd that is again become a little Child before the Secrets of God's Work come to be made known Spir. Truth Vind. p. 23. Upon which hear his Comment That W. P. of all others should talk at this rate is most Ridiculous What! Know only as they experience know what God is no farther then they experience Can we experience his Omnipotency What! Know the Death of the Man Christ Jesus the Life to come and judging of all Men by the Lord Jesus only by Experience Where is Faith all the while If none but Believers are Saints such as W. P. are professedly none If Reader we are got beside the Matter charg'd against the Quakers to wit that they deny the Scriptures to be any Means whereby to resist Temptation our wandring Adversary who led me thither is only to be blam'd But since I am here I shall endeavour to clear the Truth and My self before we return to the Point in hand It cannot be so ridiculous in W. P. to assert the Impossibility of any Man 's Knowing God or the Things belonging to his Everlasting Kingdom but by Experience or as God hath been pleased by the Inspiration or Illumination of his Light or Spirit to demonstrate or discover unto Mankind as it is Impious and Antichristian in J. Faldo to assert the Right Knowledge of God obtainable any other way then by Experience And this Reader choaks J. Faldo and the rest of his Partners more then they are willing their Followers should know who for all their Cries against us as Overturners of a Gospel and Establishers of a Legal Righteousness dread the Consequence of having their own Strivings Runnings Willings and Literal Knowledge laid aside in which their Life Faith Worship and whole Religion mostly stand and of being reduced to the very Alphabet of Inward and Experimental Religion where the Righteous Judgements of
is some thing more Immediate Living Spiritual and Inward and that brings Thoughts Words and Deeds to Light savours relishes discovers and accepts or condemns In short thus if whatever makes manifest is Light then because the Thoughts Words and Deeds of Men and Women have been manifested unto them in all Ages as well before Scritures were and where they have not been as since they were and where they have been it follows that they had Light and that the same Light cannot be the Scriptures though the Matter Written called Scriptures was manifested by that Light to the holy Pen-men before they were written which still makes for the Authority of the Light within The Priest exhorts us to that he endeavours to overthrow and with which holy Armour we have fairly foyl'd him in his own Field The same may be said of the Word of God though not of the Scriptures any further then the sharp-Word of God may speak or pierce through them into the Consciences for with good Reason do we affirm that the Scriptures or Writings are not that Sword but that from whence they came The word was a Fire an Hammer a Sword in the Prophets But the Words or Writings it spoke by were not that Fire Hammer nor Sword neither bad they any other Edge then what the Word put upon them To the same purpose may I argue against their being the Off spring of God properly for as such they could not be subject to Casuality God's Off-spring is more Living and Eternal that Word is to high for properly taken I mean as Writings they were the Off-spring of the Writers only but the Truth they declare of is of God and that will abide forever § 12. But upon the Shield of Faith and the Sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God he has a pretty Fetch Faith in the 16. verse is preferred above the Word in the 17. verse Therefore it is not Christ the Word but the Scriptures the Word for Faith is not above Christ But neither will this do his Business and a Shame it is that this Man should bring these Places to prove that the Scriptures are Means whereby to resist Temptation which concern them not especially this in hand unless he would have Faith to be the Scriptures or Word of God in his Sense which as it is absurd so it will by him be denied since he allows the Faith to be preferr'd above the Word of God therefore distinct from it and not Consequently the same with it And should we grant to him That Christ is not understood by the Word of God but the Scriptures yet observe the fatal Blow his Cause receives at his own Hand Every true Christian hath Faith that Faith is above the Scriptures therefore every true Christian hath some thing in him above the Scriptures Every true Faith overcomes the World and quenches the fiery Darts of Satan consequently Temptations therefore not so properly the Scriptures but true Faith which is preferred above them and resists Temptations and overcomes the World The just they live by Faith but Faith is above the Scripture Therefore the Just live by that which is above the Scriptures and of course the Scriptures are not the Rule of Faith for how can any thing be ruled by that which is inferiour to it Thus much we get granting to him that the Scriptures are that Word of God But we deny that Gloss too For the Spiritual Sword as he says Beza renders it which is that Word of God must be at least of the Nature of that rest of the Armour mentioned in that Chapter I mean of an Invisible Spiritual Nature which the Bible as a meer Writing is not If any should say but the Truth it declares of I say so to and the very Words when by the living Word brought into the Conscience do Pinch Prick and Wound but then that Operation comes from the Power of the Word which through them reacheth into the Heart of the Creature and so the Words without and the Word within carry a double Conviction with them But said Christ to the Devil it is written what then therefore must the Quakers needs deny the Scriptures to be any Means to resist Temptation Or rather are they not such Means when God is pleased to use them which I am sure no right Quaker ever denyed Besides it was Reasonable that Christ should so answer set that Power aside which fill'd up those Words and chained Satan because the Devil used Scripture to prevail upon him as the place proves However we deny not but confess that where-ever God is pleased to speak by any place of Scripture to a tempted Soul the Scripture may be very well acknowledg'd to be a Means by which God scatters such Doubts and Dispondencies and gives Power over Temptations and that it may often so occur Yet we would not have People fly to them as what of themselves may be sufficient but rather have Recourse to that Divine Faith which the Scriptures testifie is able to Quench the fiery Darts and Overcome the Temptations of this World and which J. Faldo has largely confest is to be preferred above the Scriptures themselves § 13. The other part of his Charge to wit That they are dangerous to be read has been answer'd again and again We say Let them that read understand fear believe and Obey and then they will read worthily otherwise men read their own Condemnation and Destruction For the Holy Truths they declare of are not to be seen known or injoyed by every Prophane nor yet professing Person that reads them they are a sealed Book to all who err from and despise that Word of God nigh in the Heart which originally gave them forth and now bears living record to them Blessed are they that rightly Understand and Do them to such they are of great Price CHAP. IX That we do not put the Scripture and Holy Spirit in Opposition The Wickedness of the Priest in his Proof They accord and we acquiesce in their Testimony We do not say that they are not to be obey'd without extraordinary Apostolical Revelation as basely suggested His Proof fictitious and forg'd Such only are by us deny'd as are only Literal Formal Christians The Scriptures own'd and believ'd in by us according as they testifie of themselves § 1. TO close up his false Charges against us about the Scriptures though I thought not to bestow so much time about him be pleased to hear him and his Testimonies which he thinks sufficient to prove what he sayes of us to be true § 2. That the Quakers put the Scriptures and the Spirit of God in Opposition to each other To make this good he quotes W. Smith thus Traditions of Men Earthly Root Darkness and Confusion Nebuchadnezar's Image Putrefaction and Corruption Rotten and Deceitful all out of the Life and Power of God Apostacy the Whore's Cup the Mark of the Beast Babylon the Mother Bastards brought forth of
Substantial and Necessary to Salvation then those two of Water-Baptism and the Lord's Supper upon which he more peculiarly bestows the Title of Christian since no Man can ever be saved without the one I mean those Natural Ordinances as he calls them and any Man may be certainly saved without the other that he so peculiarly calls Christian-Ordinances which how Unreasonable and Preposterous it is let the Impartial Judge Yet again his great Ignorance and Abuse of God and true Religion appears in this that not only he himself egregiously errs in such a Construction but confidently affirms God to be more concernd to vindicate the former and take Vengeance for the Breach of his positive and exterior Precepts as the Ceremonial part of the Jews Worship and the Bread Wine and Water Sacramentally us'd now a days if yet as such they may be accounted Precepts which the Devil himself can creep into the Profession of and cannot cleanse as concerning the Conscience then of his fundamental natural and substantial Laws and Ordinances without which God cannot be worshipped nor one Soul saved in plain Contradiction to that notable Passage of the Prophet Bring no more Vain Oblations Incense is Abomination unto me the Sabbaths the Calling of Assemblies I cannot away with it is Iniquity even the Solemn Meeting And when you spread forth your Hands I will hide mine Eyes from you yea when ye make or multiply many Prayers I will not hear your Hands are ful of Blood WASH YE MAKE YOU CLEAN PUT AWAY THE EVIL OF YOUR DOINGS FROM BEFORE MINE EYES CEASE TO DO EVIL LEARN TO DO WELL SEEK JUDGMENT RELIEVE THE OPPRESSED JUDGE THE FATHERLESS PLEAD FOR THE WIDDOW Where the Case is determin'd against him For here we have an Account of their Exactness in many Outward Ceremonial Laws standing in figurative things and a most severe Reproof of them for their great Degeneracy Corruption as to their Morals or Rebellion against God's Natural Ordinances as J. Faldo calls them God himself brings the natural and positive Ordinances as by this Priest distinguisht into the Scales gives the weight against the latter Let him show us when ever there was a Man washt and clean'd that was reprov'd for omitting any of those positive and Ceremonial Laws as I have produc'd a plain Scripture that expresses God's Detestation and Abhorrence of those of his Elected Nation the Jews that erred from the Eternal Law of Righteousness writ in the Hearts of the very Heathens though they were never so punctually as to their Observance of outward Institutions and he will do something otherwise as it is manifest what a Kind of Christianity this Man would make that any Celsus or Porphyry would blow away with a breath so it is most clear that God lays a far greater Stress upon Mens walking up to those Immutable Ordinances by our Adversary called Natural which we can accept of as being proper to Mankind then those Temporary and Shaddowy Services that must vanish upon the Appearence of the Substance it self And Lastly It is no less then Blasphemy in our Adversary and an evident Contradiction to himself to assert That the Light he grants those Immutable Ordinances to result from may be doubtful or decay respecting it self since it were to say That God the Fountain of that Rivelet of Light from whence those excellent Streams come is Doubtful and lyable to Decay for whatever is naturally incident to any measure of Light is so to the whole Nay it is to affirm that from a doubtful and decayable Light may and doth issue forth Clear Divine and Eternal Precepts of Righteousness I would not have J. Faldo lay the Blame of his own Doubts or Decays upon the Light but upon his own Rebellion against it He has too too largely vilified that blessed Manifestation to receive much Benefit by it But O the Injustice of Men that impute all of Incapacity to see which is truly from themselves to the Light Within which yet they refuse to be ruled by Let the sober Reader be seriously warned that he believes in no such Pestiferous Doctrine which in short tends to no more nor less then an Exalting and Preferring the Exterior Coat or Shell of Religion and that most of their own making too above and beyond that Eternal Light which is the Law of God in the Heart that leads to perform our Duty uprightly both to God and Man For I had rather be Moral Socrates in the Day of God's terrible Judgment then Out-side-Christian J. Faldo with all his Jeer and Enmity against Christ's Light within But let 's hear what he sayes to these Christian-Ordinances in particular though we have no Reason to expect much to his own Purpose whatever he may say for ours when we consider how shamefully he has introduced them § 2. I shall begin with Water-Baptism it being the first in order of the two both in its Institution and Practice which the Quakers deny in these words Baptism we own which is the Baptism of Christ with the Holy Ghost and with Fire but we deny all others J. Parnel's Shield of Truth pag. 11. To which I say that we have great Reason so to do for first Christ never was Administrator of Water-Baptism but that of Fire and the Holy Ghost Water-Baptism was John's the Fore-runner figuratively and used to that Preparation necessary to receive the visible Coming of the Messiah were the Messiah now visibly to come and John Baptist alive it would be Indisputable But that Time being past and it being John's Visible Administration which is over and not Christ's and lastly that the Fore-runner is not to continue but give way to Him and his Administration that was so fore run which was Christ and his Baptism we do conclude that there is no such Baptism as J. Faldo charges us with the Denial of that can plead any Continuance in the Christian Church Which John himself was not unsensible of when he said I shall Decrease but he will Increase and who like the Morning Star accordingly Decreast and became Ecclipst by the Encrease of the Brighter Glory of Christ who was and is Lord of all § 3. If any should say that it is not meant of John's Baptism but a new Water-Baptism instituted by Christ because of those onely Words on which they ground their Commission Go teach all Nations Baptizing them c. J. Faldo answers for me that it is a Mistake He means not another Water-Baptism from John's when he tells us that the Water-Baptism which he calls the Christian Ordinance and renders the Quakers a sort of Heathens for denying is that Baptism which was in point of Order and Institution before the Bread and Wine were instituted which how well soever it may square with the Episcopalians Presbyterians Independents and Anabaptists Notion of Baptism whom he says he has no further concern'd in his Book then vindicated and his own date of Christianity from Christ's Resurrection it
is manifest first That no Commission was given by Christ before he broke Bread with his Disciples Consequently he must intend John ' s onely And next That John ' s Commission it self is not extant muâ—h less any Commission to perpetuate his as generally oblieging But above all that the Disciples of Christ should not onely use but esteem for an Ordinance of Christ a Baptism that had not their Lord for its Administrator as saith the Scripture for Jesus baptised not is absurd and all together Anti-Gospel If we will credit Christ's own saying The least in the Kingdom of Heaven is greater then John as if he should have said John's Administration was an Introduction and a Kind of Preparation in order to my Coming but no otherwise is it interessed in my Kingdom which is Spiritual and that I am now about to set up in the Hearts and Consciences of Men and the least of that Spiritual Kingdom is greater then the Children of John ' s Watery Dispensation § 4. That this is Truth I will further prove even from that very Place which they repute a sufficient Commission for Water-Baptism Go therefore and teach all Nations Baptizing them in the Name of the Father Son and the Holy Ghost c. In discoursing of things laid down by the Evangelists it will not alwayes suffice what some one Evangelist saith as in the Passage Controverted We have here a Commission it is granted but what it was with respect to the Baptism mentioned and the Time when it was to take place will be the Question To resolve which we must have recourse to another place without which this cannot be so clear to those who seek after Scripture-Demonstration Luke in his History of the Acts of the Apostles soon after his Address to Theophilus gives us an Account of some farewell-Expressions Christ used to his Disciples not so fully exprest in his History which he delivers to us after this manner And being assembled together with them he Christ commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem but wait for the Promise of the Father which sayes he ye have heard of me FOR JOHN TRULY BAPTIZED WITH WATER BUT YE SHALL BE BAPTIZED WITH THE HOLY GHOST NOT MANY DAYES HENCE From whence nothing can be clearer then first that the Baptism mention'd in Go teach all Nations Baptizizing them c. was not the Baptism of John but the Baptism of the Holy Ghost call'd the Promise of the Father which they were to wait for recorded by Luke both in the 24th Chapter of his History of Christ and the first Chapter of his History of the Acts of the Apostles Nay lest it should be thought that he meant of another Water-Baptism as some vainly imagine to help their Understanding and prevent all such Mistake he distinguishes not betwixt John ' s Water-Baptism and his own but betwixt Any Water-Baptism at all and his own Baptism of the Holy Ghost John indeed baptized with Water but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost Then you will be fitly qualified and commissionated after you shall have received the Promise of the Father which you are to wait for and then to go and teach all Nations baptizing them c. Suitable to those Expressions of the Baptist himself I indeed Baptize you with Water but he shall Baptize you with the Holy Ghost His Fan is in his Hand he will throughly purge his Floor He that cometh after me is preferred before me Besides the very words themselves taken in the Original Tongue import in Point of Propriety nothing less For the Greek knows no such thing as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 c. baptizing them in the Name but 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 baptizing them into the Name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost which by the frequent use of that Preposition ' Eis Into it is impossible for Water-Baptism to do no more then for a Man by it to be baptized with the same Baptism where-with Christ was to be baptized to be buried with him Christ to be baptized into Christ and so to be baptized into his Death or by it and not by One Spirit to be baptized into One Body Which because no Water-Baptism could ever do it consequently follows that it was never intended of Water-Baptism since it would then have been to ascribe that to meer Water-Baptism which it is both utterly impossible for it ever to perform and is really the alone Property of the Spiritual Baptism of Christ to effect § 5. To our Objection of the Apostle's Answer Christ sent me not to Baptize but to Preach he argues Because he did Baptize some therefore it was an Ordinance and that he baptiz'd so few was but providential not designed and the Reason why it was not laid upon the Apostle Paul was because his Call was extraordinary and out of due time But the Confusion and the Weakness of this Reply might save me the Labour of an Answer with all but those who might esteem it Unanswerable because almost Unintelligible For if every Practice was an Institution then because the same Apostle Circumcised it was a Christian-Ordinance Practice then we see and all the reasonable World knows is not Institution Many things indifferent in their Nature may be practised and used and yet never instituted or required That he had it not in his Commission the Priest himself grants but excuses that Defect by a greater viz. He was called extraordinarily and out of due time But as they were all extraordinarily called or else the Priest contradicts himself so if we may believe the Apostle he was Inferior to none of them If not in his Works I know no Reason why he should be reputed so in his Commission That his Commission was of God is granted on all hands And if it pleased God to make it none of Paul's Commission we would be glad to see any of our time produce one more large and effectual till when we are contented with no more Extent in the Point then God pleased to give his great Apostle and believe whatever J. Fuldo sayes to the contrary that he was a Gospel-Christian-Apostle And if Water-Baptism had been then reputed a Gospel Christian-Ordinance neither had God omitted that in his Commission nor had the Apostle spoke so lightly of it § 6. But J. Parnel offends him in these words at least he takes Offence at them They who would have one Baptism inward an other outward would have Two Baptisms when the Scripture saith The Baptism is but One. Shield of Truth p. 11. Which he would be thought to Confute thus and it seems more material then any thing he has writ on this Subject I must tell him by the way that he tells an Untruth wilfully He uses or rather abuses the Words of the Apostle just before repeated one Lord one Faith one Baptism and there he adds but which the Text has not And here the Scripture saith the Baptism is but one
Christ was before his Appearance and consequently our former Chapter is justified on our part against his Notions of the Lord 's Christ For it was impossible That the Visible Body taken from the Virgin should have made all things which was hung upon a Tree and buried c. But J. Faldo expresly says As the Word is the Light of Men so or in that manner is Christ the Light of Men Nay he calls it Christ's Appearing in the Flesh therein transacting and declaring Salvation c. intimating That Christ was before he took that Flesh or appeared in that Body and that he therefore took it and appeared in it to transact work declare and bring to pass by and through it as a peculiar Vessel and prepared Holy Instrument the great Salvation c. and consequently Christ was and is that Word which was with God and is God and the Light of Men c. And lest we should yet mistake him he calls it God manifested in the Flesh for those Ends to wit Salvation and Eternal Life And that he might speak all for us in a little and give the Deaths-wound to his own Cause he tells us in so many Words That the Salvation and Life Eternal of poor Sinners was wrapt up in Christ as God Is not this pretty fair for an Adversary as ill-willing to us and to the Truth as J. Faldo one of Ten Thousand in his Displeasure against us Certainly if the Quakers are condemnable for believing It was and is Christ as the Word in whom was Life and that Life the Light of Men that he was and is a Saviour J. Faldo must not be the Man that shall give the Sentence who I know not how nor why but that God and his Truth may be glorified by his Self-overthrow hath asserted the Quakers Principle and that at an high rate and if it can be an Honour to him that he has assisted to the Conquest of himself he ought to have it without any Envy § 2. But he is as serviceable to us altogether in Defence of the Light however undesigned which I prove thus If Christ be properly that Light which manifests or discovers any thing the terms of his Concession and therefore it doth manifest the Purpose and Grace of God which was given in Christ before the World was whereby Death comes to be abolished and Life and Immortality brought to Light Then must Christ Jesus this manifesting Light be a Divine and Saving Light without all Dispute Now J. Faldo affirms Christ to be that Word and proper Light that so manifesteth discovereth as exprest consequently that Light which doth so Manifest and Discover is a Saving Light Again If the Light be not only a Manifesting Light which is to take it Properly but a Comforting Light also which is to take it Metaphorically as saith J. Faldo Then this Light as the Word-Creator is not therefore call'd Light from a bare Act of Discovery but is a Principle of Life Power Vertue c. by which such as obey it are consolated and by the Reason of Contraries who rebel against it are condemned Which makes up those two States of Light and Darkness and their Rewards Consolation and Misery And thus much our Adversary further proves for us In him was Life and the Life was the Light of Men that is the Salvation and Eternal Life of poor Sinners was wrapt up in Christ as God which is to say That the Life of the Word was and is the proper Light of Men and unto all such poor Sinners as did and do believe in it that Light is unto them Salvation and Eternal Life then which nothing can be more Orthodox in the Point Who would think that J. Faldo should ever undertake the Quakers so little understanding their Principles And if he did know them What should aile the Man to be so much our Friend to write against himself under Pretence of writing against us One would think he did it by the same Figure Irony that some call Fools Wits Yet he would fain distinguish Christ the Light as Creator and Redeemer making the first Common the other Peculiar and that spoils all To which I shall briefly answer for he only starts it himself There is but one Kind of Light which results from the Life of the Word and because it cannot be such but it must be Divine and Sufficient as well to Redemption as Conviction it will unanswerably follow that the manifesting Light of the Word J. Faldo confesseth all Mankind more or less to be lighted with is of a Divine and Saving Nature and that which strengthens this Conclusion is that Christ as God is by our Adversary made the Saviour and unless he would deny him that he calls God to have been before that Manifestation in Flesh a Redeemer to the Ancients which were to conclude the Damnation of all that died antecedent Christ the Word as that Light was the proper Redeemer through all Generations Though I will grant to him and that in the Name of all that People call'd Quakers the Discoveries made by Christ or God manifested in the Flesh transcended all former Manifestations and as in my Spirit of Truth Vindicated it is largely confest had this Adversary been Ingenuous enough to have weigh'd it So again I declare that eminently whatever was before or hath been since might in a sense be said of that Manifestation because he that then appeared was the Fulness of that Light Life and Power which measurably was is and may be dispensed to the Sons of Men wherefore in that sense he was both before and after the same Convincer Converter Redeemer and Saviour to the Souls of Men. § 3. But he is much stumbl'd and not a little abusive because I would have 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 render'd Enlightneth rather then Lighteth in my Spir. of Truth Vindic. saying of me I perceive he is as very as those Physicians who impose severe Abstinence on others but they themselves will take their Cups off and their good Cheer to Wantonness and Giddiness How far this Character may be by any thought to resemble William Penn a Man he often strickes at I know not but I dare say for him he never was so Disingenuous as to deserve it and least of all from J. Faldo with whom he never had to do and who must needs make a Random-guess in the Matter But this is not the only Scurrility William Penn however unconcern'd he be has receiv'd at the hands of that Rude Priest nor that he is able to bear He takes it for granted that W. P's Passive Religion is like to be a Protection to his base Tongue and so long the Priest sleeps in a whole Skin I cannot imagine what his dashoe should signifie But it is ill done of a Priest to quarrell his next Order and one too which if I am not mistaken the Non-Conforming Priests have swarm'd after as the next way of Maintenance to their displac'd Carkasses
be the outward Commandments and Statutés For the Question was not about them but about the Commandment of Commandments and Word of Words which he resolves thus Let none say who shall ascend descend or go beyond the Seas to fetch the Great Word and Commandment But the Word is very nigh thee 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 signifies the Innermost parts of Men. Whereinto the Outward Commandments could never come Nay I do affirm and that with holy Boldness in the Spirit Power and Illumination of the blessed Gospel that all the by rote Learning of the Letter of either Law or Gospel as they are conâ—â—â—-distinguisht is of no more Value to the true Knowledge or Worship of God then the Cutting off a Dog's Neck either to God's Honour or Man's profit without the Inward Living Word should powerfully write and engrave upon the Soul its Holy Precepts neither could there be any Conviction in the Conscience concerning the Truth of those Statutes nor indeed any Conscience at all since Conscience is no other then that manifest Judgment Man makes of the Truth or Falshood of things with respect to his own Soul from the Word or Light of God in his Heart according to the Practice of the Apostle who was manifest and desir'd to Commend himself to the Consciences of all Men Not as to a blind unsensible Thing but that Judgment in Man though not from him which was right and not learned of Man but received of God Whereas J. Faldo scoffs at such kind of Knowledge the Perniciousness of which Doctrine ought to antidote all sober Persons from ever adhering to it or him that preacheth it For I will be bound to make it appear that by his own Principles he is assured of nothing and must set down under the extreamest Scepticism in the World Or if concludable by any thing it must be by the way Rome takes to resolve all Scruples that is Plurality of Votes however directed and this too rather for Peace sake then any Certainty there can be in it For who bars out of all Inward Senses Motions Revelations Inspirations or Enlightnings resolving only to insist upon what may arrive them from meer Books because of the Fallibility of Man and Difficulty of the Matter they do contain which Way can there be to compass any tolerable Certainty to rest Men's Souls upon This is your once Phanatical t'other day Enthusiastical now Pragmatical and Scoffing J. Faldo The first in the very beginning of Independency in the World the best part that belong'd to it I meane Enthusiasm but now deserted by many as much as the true Religion is by the Church of Rome § 9. The third and last Scripture he undertakes to secure us from all Share in is that of Peter We have also a more sure Word of Prophecy whereunto ye do well to take heed as unto a Light that shineth in a dark Place until the Day dawn and the Day-Star arise in your Hearts By this more sure Word of Prophecy says J. Faldo is meant those Prophecies written in the Old Testament which are call'd Verse 20. Prophecy of Scripture and are called the Light that shineth in a dark Place I hope it will be alwayes forreign to me to detract from the holy Scriptures But the Truth I will take Liberty to defend The whole Chapter is a very weighty and zealous Recommendation of the Gospel to the Churches pressing them to call to Mind the Love of God unto them and to mind their Duty to him who had so loved them And as a great Ground both of their Faith Love and Duty the Apostle in the 16th verse tells them For we have not followed cunningly divised Fables when we made known unto you the Power and Coming of our Lord Jesus Christ But were Eye-Witnesses of his Majesty for he received from God the Father Honour and Glory when there came such a Voice to him from the Excellent Glory THIS IS MY BELOVED SON IN WHOM I AM WELL PLEASED And this Voice which comes from Heaven we heard when we were with him in the Holy Mount We have also a more sure Word of Prophecy c. Now that this cannot be meant of the Scriptures and take in the Comparison I thus prove If the Reason of their Assurance that what they delivered to the Churches was not Fabulous but true was their being Eye-Witnesses of his Majesty and Eye and Ear-Witnesses of that Testimony God gave of his Son in the Mount by that Honour Glory and Voice of Words which were there utter'd and did in that Plaee uppear then the Scriptures not only were not a surer Word of Prophecy but not so sure because they never heard nor saw them so delivered nor yet had any of the Prophets so Glorious so Transcendent and Unquestionable a Testimony to their outward Eyes and Ears that we read of J. Faldo's most infallible Way of true Knowledge see pag. 91. as was that which God gave to the Disciples when he testified This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased But we may inform our selves from the Verses recited that they were a more eminent Ground for their Knowledge Assurance and Belief then the meer Scriptures And consequently the Scriptures are not the more sure Word of Prophecy Again the written Account of another's Revelation cannot be more sure to me then that Revelation which I do immediately receive from God suppose it be from God But this was a Revelation to the Disciples and they were sure it was from God Consequently the writen Account of another's Revelation as were the Prophecies of the Old Testament so called to the Disciples could not be a more sure Word of Prophecy For it were to say that they were more sure that he among them who was called Jesus was the Son of God from Isaiah's Testimony That he would give him for a Light to lighten the Gentiles c. then the Immediate Voice of God when he pointed so clearly at him This is my beloved Son He that is amongst you whom you have followed This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased Then which what could be more demonstrable on God's part and incredulous on their side who should yet subject that living Testimony to any the best Tradition Let me not forget to add That what the Disciples then saw and heard from God and the Epistle Peter wrot by the holy Ghost being made part of the New Testament-Writings and they accounted more eminent by far then the Old with respect to the more eminent Pouring forth of the Holy Ghost in that Day which the Prophets fore-saw and they enjoyed the Old cannot in any wise be reputed a more sure Word of Prophecy as J. Faldo asserts therefore this more sure Word of Prophecy must be another thing § 10. What that is which may be reputed a more sure Word of Prophecy will much deserve our serious Consideration If it was not the Voice in the Mount which
we have invincibly proved to be more Immediate Living Fresh Convincing and Confirming to the Disciples then any the best written Prophecies they had It will follow that it was meant of the holy Anointing that Spirit and measure of the Grace or blessed Light of Christ which is Internal and out of the Reach of all Visible Things to sophisticate corrupt mis-represent mis-render or mis-translate all which have greatly befallen the Scriptures For I do affirm that Sense it self is not so certain as Reason and what clearly and fully occurs to the Understanding part of Man is a more solid Ground for Faith and Knowledge then those External Sights and Visions which Man might be attended with to Confirmation For what shall be the Rule for trying the Certainty and Truth of any such Visions and Prophecies It must be some measure of that Anointing which was afterwards given more largely to them in order to try Spirits and in all other Cases which concern the Gospel otherwise they should not have believ'd with any Certainty or upon spiritual Conviction as to themselves For if a Man has not something Divine to direct and inform his Understanding as to the true Relish Judgment and Application of what he may read in any Book or externally might appear to his Sences in the Way of extraordinary Vision there could be no probable much less certain Ground for his Belief in or Knowledge of the Truth of that thing however true in it self In short That which is Truth it self which is able to teach all things to try all things and to lead into all Truth which the Scriptures though Truth cannot do for then they would be Clear Plain Perfect uncapable of Additions Diminutions Corruptions Mistranslations c. must be this more sure Word of Prophecy But that the Anointing which the Saints had received of him was able to do as saith the Apostle John but the Anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you and need not that any Man teach you but as the same Anointing teacheth you of all things and is Truth and is no Lye And even as it hath taught you ye shall abide in him Therefore this Anointing thus able to do all things must needs be that more sure Word of Prophecy if more shall be allowed In short The Law written in the Heart is a more sure Covenant Law and Word then the Law written upon Stones or the Outward Book of the Law else the Dispensation of the Law of Life within the Gospel-State would be less Sure and therefore less Noble then the Law without and the Prophecies of the Old Testament so call'd more Certain then the Scriptures of the New that belong to a more excellent Dispensation and are an Account of the fulfilling of those very Prophecies Nay it would be to assert that the Words of both Scriptures are more sure and certain and our Regard ought to be more eminently after them then the very Spirit from whence they came which at least in the Church of God every one has received a Measure to profit with and so perfectly subvert the very State of the Gospel which was and is the Time of the Pouring out of the Spirit upon all Flesh and bringing Mankind to a more near sure and living Word of Prophecy then any Outward Writings whatever can possibly be § 11. But because he tells us in another place that a little Skill in the Original would free us from many Absurdities we shall a little examine both what the Original Text will make for the clearing the Point in Controversie and what may be the sense of some Men of Learning a thing he pretends to and Impartiality which I hope he has not Confidence enough to pretend to I will suppose then the Prophecies of the Ancients to be intended but deny any Comparison at all to have been made between them and that Voice in the Mount 2 Pet. 1. 19. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 c. We also have a More sure Word of Prophecy as by our late Translation render'd I cannot perceive that Comparison in the Greek so hugg'd by the Priests and insisted upon by our Adversary with manifest Design to prefer the Writings before the Spirit that gave them forth the great Evangelical Word of Prophecy for the Words without any wrong not only may which were enough but ought to be rendred thus Also we have a very sure Word of Prophecy which neither questions the certainty of the Voice nor so much as intends any the least Comparison at all with it which I take to be the very Ground of that Opposition which is made against us The Reason why I so render it is ready 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Also I know our Translation hath but it is commonly understood by our Adversaries for 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 But which is a great Injury to the sense for 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Also is conjunctive and signifies onely another confirmatory Testimony whereas 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or But is a word that mostly doth and to be sure in that place would signifie a Comparison and Opposition Also then not being taken in the same sense with But there is nothing therein that can make for the Comparison or any Opposition whatsoever Now the Comparison it self 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 lately rendred more sure is in the ancient Translations more truly interpreted sure and very sure in which there is no room for any Comparison or Opposition in the least And if J. Faldo has but Greek and Honesty enough he must needs acknowledge that Positives Comparatives and Superlatives are used promiscuously in the Greek See Acts 25. 10. where 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is rendred as thou very well knowest whereas in J. Faldo's sense 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 would be interpreted as thou knowest better then I which certainly the Apostle Paul never intended when he spoke to Festus And as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Also is connective and joyns the 19th Verse to the 18th Verse so 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the expositive and distinctive Article doth not preceed but follow 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The Syriack one of the most approv'd Versions by learned Men has it thus We have over and above a true or sure Word of Prophecy The Arabick We have beside a very true Prophetick Word The Aethiopick has a Comparison not respecting the Sureness but the Antiquity of the Voices We have over and above an ancienter Word or Testimony which is so respecting time The French German Low-Dutch Swedish and several of our ancient English Traslations run thus We have also the sure Prophetick Word We have also the right sure Word of Prophecy We have also the very sure Word of the Prophets All which imports no more then that they had over and above their own particular Assurances of the Truth of the Christian Religion the Testimony of the Prophets whose Prophecies were fulfilled by the Coming of Christ and the Pouring out of
Apostolical or primitive Christianity And this shall close our Chapter and my honest and clear Answer to the second part of his Discourse which makes up more then three parts of four of his Uncharitable and Disingenuous Treatise AN APPENDIX Being A Reply to that last Part of his Book which pretends to answer the first of my Spirit of Truth Vindicated entituled An Examination of the first part of W. P's Spirit of Truth c. with a Rebuke of his Exorbitances § 1. THough there has been no Adversary which has fallen to my share that has shown more Incivility and less Learning a thing he pretends to in Answer to any of my Books then J. Faldo has done in this last part of his Quakerism no Christianity yet how little soever I have at least to bestow upon him I desire to manifest more Temper Truth and Civility then to recompence him with that Ill-bred Language those School-puns and loose irreverent if not prophane Sayings amidst the most weighty Matters it hath pleased him to give me for a great share of his Answer to the first Part of my Book I will rather betake my self to single out the Strength of his Objections if any there be and bestow my Time in Vindication of the Truth then to rail revile undervalue and stigmatize with I know not how many disgracefull Epithites a Way that never yet reacht into any Man's Conscience And this Ken I have of J. Faldo That all his Discourse of Christianity interlined with so much Babling Prattle and base Abuse would never move a sober Turk and a Banian is a Saint to a Congregation of such kind of Christians § 2. He tells me he expected great Things when first he set about to read my Book and began to stagger in his Mind as to that Ingenious Piece call'd The Spirit of the Quakers tried or to that purpose But knowing himself better I hope he will excuse me if I do not believe him He never had that Opinion of any thing writ in Defence of a People he testifies such irreconcilable Hatred to which is none of the meanest Blots in his Scutchion Pen the Answerer if he were not furnisht with Fore-head and Tales beyond measure his Pamphlet would have had nothing remarkable in it Whether this be most a Lye or an Abuse I know not perhaps the Reader may but sure I am there is more of both then stands with true Christianity to give a comprehensive Under value of what he can never answer which perhaps goes for one among such as have Faith in him or know no better § 3. But he is angry at my Stating the Question thus Whether God's Holy and Unerring Spirit is or should be the proper Judge of Truth Rule of Faith and Guide of Life among Men especially under the Administration of the blessed Gospel of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ or no. I affirm it and proceed to prove it by Scripture and Reason Upon which be pleased to hear his Reflection and from hence make a Judgment what that Spirit must be that should so pretend to answer my Spirit of Truth c. Considering his Words foregoing which are too many and too worthless to transcribe And what he drives at in the handling of this Question I never read one so lame and deformed in my Life come forth with such State and Confidence and such a train and rout of Mediums as deformed as it self There is in it neither Logick nor Honesty Certainly if he had not turned Quaker and in that Fall put all out of joynt he could not likely after such good Nursing have been thus lamentably cripled in his Intellects and somewhat besides One would think the Strain of this Comment were Answer to it self Why so much flourish and little done Must Noise supply the Absence of Reason and base Reviling go for Confutation Shallow Man what Lameness is there in the Question I profess I see none nor has he so much as pointed at one Limb that is defective in all this Rabble of Reflection I have neither Logick nor Honesty It had been to be wish'd that he had shown more of both in saying so or held his Tongue But my turning Quaker has put something out of joynt But what I know not unless the good Opinion I once undeserved had of such Mountebank Priests But give him his due he is the first Man that ever acquainted me with the Ground of Cripling I was never yet wise enough to think it a Natural Effect of Ill-nursing only through Carelesness in Nurses Falls and the like have brought it I perceive he is not only a Wel wisher to Physick by his hard Word Ebullitions but a small Pretender to Chyrurgery by his Terme out of joynt when he has given better Proof of his well-setting to rights his own dis-joynted or if he will dislocated Cause with that of Chistianity he may better set up for a Religious Bone-setter and in the mean time he can pass but for a Pretender But I have no Logick And why Because I say pag. 37. there is no more Difference to me between a Judge Rule and Gaide then essentially there can be in the Wisdom Justice and Holiness of God he should have added sayes J. Faldo nor between Truth Faith and Life amongst Men. I would know of any Man that can think himself capable of judging in the plainest Case if this be an Answer to my Argument I said then I do again that there is no more Difference in them respecting the Principle then essentially there can be in the Wisdom Justice and Holiness of God which are but so many Words to express the Perfection of one and the same Being for he is all and that in all Wise in being Just and both in being Holy They are inseparable for That which gives me a right Sense or Judgment of Truth from Error is as well to me a Rule what I should believe or dis-believe and a Guide what I should practise or not practise as at first it was my Judge of what was Truth from what was Errour All which sober and indeed unanswerable Arguing he thought fit to over-look which is very Disingenuous I say that the same Spirit which is a Judge is a Rule and Guide even in that very Act when it is a Judge and that unavoidably Therefore to distinguish them is frivolous and to maintain one to be a Rule and another a Judge is absurd and heterodox For his Addition it is not hard to answer That there is more Difference between Truth Faith and Life for one may be without the other two I mean Truth abstractly But if it shall be understood of Truth received into the Heart I say that there is so great an Affinity between Truth true Faith and an Heavenly Life that they follow each other almost at an instant and cannot be separated from each other § 4. But he is Angry that I should use these Words of Lord
Government and consequently they had as truly their Measure of the Holy Unerring Spirit as had Moses Joshua c. theirs § 7. The Third Scripture he would unconcern me in is this And the Inspiration of the Almighty giveth them Understanding Upon this he asks me this Question But doth this Incourage Men to cast off all External Means and the Use of their Reason Nothing less says he Nothing less say I too And who can help it if he understands me so But that he may be as base as base can be he askes this Question as the Result of my Argument upon the Place and never yet answers it at all But I cannot help it if J Faldo will render me a Fool that he may shew himself Wise I confess he wants some such Fool for his Work and his own Weakness may tempt him to that Dishonesty Only I would have the Reader know that Reason Memory and Understanding are all useful Servants we deny them not a Place in the Heavenly Work but as Instruments not Agents what should not move of themselves to Religious Worship but in and by the Motions of the Holy Spirit of God § 8. The next Scripture he thinks I abuse is this Whither shall I go from thy Spirit or Whither shall I flee from thy Presence From whence sayes he you can scribble thus If God's unerring Spirit be so nigh and the Sence or it so certain it must be either to Reprove for Evil done or to Inform Uphold Lead and Preserve in reference to all Good Now in which of the two senses it shall be taken the Presence of God's Eternal Spirit his being the Saints Instructer Judge Rule and Guide are evidently deduceable from the Words rudis indigestaque moles worse then ever Bear brought forth her Cubbs says J. Falde But this is not all hear him further which with her Licking may be brought into some Shape but your Products are so defective both in Truth right Reason and Syntax and Sense that it is no Dis-reputation to your Adversary to be confounded by them A notable Excuse for no Answer but Silence which is always counted Answer enough by him that hath never another to give Again It is an effectual but an impudent Course to Silence all the World from Opposing you by writing such confident confused Non-sense We may suppose then that there is such a thing as confused Sense Yet again Were it not for the sake of many who conceit your Infallibility which you are here so blindly pleading for I would as soon abandon my Time Non-sense to dispute witha distracted Man in his Raving Fits as with W. Penn till he come better to himself then I find him in his Pamphlet And Reader Canst thou think that my Adversary has taken a fair or probable Way to bring me to my self again whose best Arguments are sordid ill-bred Names down-right Lyes and Slanders I challenge any Man that can soberly pretend to Religion to so much as abet this manner of Proceeding against me and the Way I profess if this were to be Christian as it is Antichristian were I a Turk I should take great Care I came not within the very Suburbs of so base a Profession Where 's J. Faldo's Reading Learning Conscience in this one Passage I will not so much as attempt the Defence of my Argument for it were to say it needed my Assistance or that my Adversary had done somthing to indanger its Security who has so pleaded the Sobriety and Truth of it by an Opposition that could become none but a Creature as for-lorn of all Honesty as himself that it is a Credit to my Cause almost equal with our Clearness that so much Rancour and Ignorance set themselves against it This is no less Man then your Vaunting Struting J. Faldo his own self who thinks as well of himself and deserves as little of it from other Men as any Person that has come within my Ken a long time In short whether I am out of my Wits or he out of all Bounds of good Sense or Manners shall be left with the Reader to determine For my part if this be the Way he intends to take to confute his Opposers he is like to answer himself And give him his due he is as good at it as most Men I know and 't is not to be doubted but he may increase in that Science § 9. But he tells me that my main Fallacies are these two First from an Infallible Spirit-Teaching to the Infallibility of the Subjects in which the Spirit dwells as a Teacher Next from the Spirit 's Teaching to its Immediate and Peculiar Teaching If the First be true without any Consideration had to the Obedience of the Creature and his being guided by the Holy Spirit I will yield it to him that I am mistaken though not fall aciously that implying a Design to do so which I had not And for the Second I am content to stand by the Charge not of a Fallacy but our Faith and such as is Defensible both from Scripture and Reason For if the Truth of no Argument I have made nor any Expression that has fallen from me doth so much as imply his Charge let him not be angry with me that I say He is one of the basest Perverters among Men And if that very Passage by which he hopes to prove this great Deceit of mine is found mute in the Case I hope no Reader will be so unjust as to refuse me the Censure of his being an Unfair Adversary § 10. The first Place he thinks to make for him is this Quench not the Spirit On which I argu'd thus Those to whom he gave the Caution had the Spirit if those could not quench it that had it not consequently the primitive Churches were not without an Unerring Spirit To which he sayes but suppose they had the Spirit it is a miserable erronious and weak Conclusion that they were Infallible How far this makes for him or rather how greatly he has mistaken me is evident if it may be considered that there is not one Word of any Man 's being Infallible in all my Argument only that the primitive Churches had an Infallible Spirit not of their own or from themselves but from God and that they were only so in their Knowledge or Determinations from the unerring Guidance of God's Spirit unless they either were without the Anointing or that the Anointing was Fallible both which are contradicted by the Apostle John in that noted passage 1. 2. 27. So that my Adversary is manifestly guilty of that Fault He doth with no small Aggravation charge upon me viz That from my Arguing the Certainty of the primitive Churches having the Holy Spirit of God to direct them from the Impossibility of their Quenching what they had not he makes me to conclude the Infallibility of the Churches whether they were led by it or no As if I intended to plead the Infallibility