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know_v and_o remember_v it_o very_o well_o if_o he_o be_v not_o at_o this_o instant_n grievous_o astonish_v neither_o can_v he_o be_v so_o astonish_v and_o woeful_o distress_v in_o his_o soul_n without_o that_o intolerable_a and_o infinite_a weight_n of_o sorrow_n before_o speak_v of_o therefore_o brief_o so_o it_o be_v doubtless_o with_o he_o at_o that_o season_n all_o in_o vain_a than_o you_o charge_v i_o that_o i_o ster_v the_o scripture_n beyond_o their_o word_n and_o the_o truth_n 289._o â—â—g_v 289._o when_o in_o my_o discourse_n i_o show_v that_o christ_n in_o the_o garden_n be_v astonish_v &_o grievous_o perplex_v the_o text_n have_v only_o he_o begin_v to_o be_v astonish_v and_o grievous_o perplex_v i_o grant_v the_o text_n be_v so_o but_o think_v you_o that_o phrase_n in_o scripture_n signify_v a_o
either_o now_o or_o before_o he_o die_v in_o the_o flesh_n or_o both_o now_o &_o then_o also_o for_o he_o may_v well_o suffer_v it_o even_o now_o and_o yet_o fear_v it_o more_o ensue_a yea_o such_o a_o manner_n &_o measure_n of_o fear_n as_o this_o manifest_o be_v can_v not_o be_v but_o a_o very_a suffer_v of_o these_o spiritual_a sorrow_n which_o also_o that_o show_v where_o he_o say_v my_o soul_n be_v full_a of_o actual_a sorrow_n even_o unto_o death_n etc._n etc._n neither_o be_v there_o in_o this_o any_o a_o doubt_n full_a word_n 304._o pag._n 304._o which_o be_v your_o manner_n of_o writing_n 296._o pag._n 296._o nor_o b_o device_n unfit_a for_o divinity_n but_o your_o comparison_n of_o c_o fear_v captivity_n 301._o pag._n 301._o lose_v a_o purse_n etc._n etc._n be_v very_o unfit_a to_o be_v match_v with_o this_o fear_n in_o christ_n 302._o pag._n 302._o you_o think_v this_o be_v but_o a_o d_o jest_n if_o god_n be_v say_v to_o have_v hear_v christ_n and_o deliver_v he_o from_o that_o he_o fear_v and_o yet_o to_o let_v he_o suffer_v it_o forsooth_o no_o jest_n for_o he_o doubtless_o suffer_v it_o as_o before_o we_o have_v see_v now_o nevertheless_o god_n may_v well_o hear_v he_o 2._o way_n 1._o by_o sufficient_a sustain_v he_o in_o it_o 2._o by_o deliver_v he_o out_o of_o it_o in_o due_a time_n in_o one_o place_n you_o seem_v to_o observe_v a_o point_n both_o strange_a and_o very_o contrary_a to_o yourself_o 119_o pa._n 118._o 119_o in_o say_v e_o fear_n be_v more_o intolerable_a in_o christ_n they_o doubt_v be_v fear_n so_o intolerable_a a_o thing_n for_o he_o when_o as_o you_o have_v so_o often_o and_o so_o earnest_o affirm_v that_o he_o fear_v 124._o pa._n 22._o 124._o and_o for_o f_o fear_n become_v thus_o astonish_v 303._o pag._n 303._o where_o *_o you_o seek_v a_o weak_a advantage_n in_o that_o i_o say_v eisakoustheis_n may_v seem_v to_o show_v that_o christ_n be_v hear_v be_v in_o that_o which_o he_o be_v save_v from_o you_o see_v i_o challenge_v no_o certain_a but_o a_o seem_a reason_n from_o that_o word_n but_o yourself_o make_v a_o strange_a conclusion_n ergo_fw-la the_o active_a refer_v to_o god_n import_v that_o god_n be_v in_o the_o same_o pain_n do_v hear_v he_o last_o you_o say_v g_o indeed_o but_o in_o the_o garden_n christ_n never_o pray_v with_o strong_a cry_n &_o tear_n to_o be_v save_v from_o death_n 22_o pag._n 22_o that_o we_o read_v in_o the_o scripture_n i_o hope_v neither_o do_v you_o read_v express_o in_o the_o scripture_n at_o all_o that_o thus_o he_o pray_v in_o the_o garden_n you_o may_v sound_o gather_v it_o from_o the_o scripture_n i_o grant_v 12.27_o joh._n 12.27_o and_o so_o you_o may_v that_o his_o pray_v h_o before_o be_v of_o the_o self_n same_o nature_n and_o manner_n also_o after_o in_o that_o most_o doleful_a complaint_n on_o the_o cross_n when_o he_o cry_v my_o god_n my_o god_n why_o have_v thou_o forsake_v i_o where_o the_o very_a like_o request_n be_v plain_o imply_v as_o he_o make_v in_o the_o garden_n when_o he_o say_v let_v this_o cup_n pass_v from_o 5.7_o jeb_n 5.7_o so_o that_o the_o i_o apostle_n in_o all_o reason_n may_v be_v understand_v to_o have_v respect_n to_o all_o these_o time_n and_o woeful_a cry_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n 30._o pag._n 30._o and_o thus_o it_o be_v without_o all_o reason_n that_o you_o say_v k_o his_o agony_n end_v in_o the_o garden_n 116_o pa._n 115._o 116_o and_o that_o on_o the_o cross_n he_o have_v l_o always_o persistance_n in_o joy_n without_o obscuration_n or_o intermission_n likewise_o also_o that_o otherwise_o his_o astonishment_n must_v â—â—_o must_v pag._n â—â—_o continue_v 18._o hour_n from_o his_o enter_v into_o the_o garden_n after_o supper_n to_o the_o end_n of_o his_o life_n the_o next_o day_n at_o 3._o of_o the_o clock_n after_o noon_n how_o vain_a be_v this_o consequence_n how_o false_a be_v these_o say_n and_o contrary_a to_o scripture_n in_o all_o the_o circumstance_n but_o you_o say_v 30._o say_v pa._n 30._o the_o cause_n continue_v the_o effect_n can_v not_o cease_v the_o cause_n be_v god_n leave_v his_o weak_a nature_n in_o these_o sorrow_n at_o sometime_o more_o at_o sometime_o less_o also_o he_o be_v to_o be_v think_v to_o reveal_v and_o inflict_v the_o very_a sorrow_n not_o always_o in_o one_o tenor_n but_o sometime_o more_o sometime_o less_o final_o his_o manhood_n apprehend_v these_o arrow_n of_o god_n wrath_n sometime_o more_o sudden_o then_o at_o other_o time_n these_o be_v the_o true_a cause_n of_o his_o astonishment_n but_o these_o continue_v not_o 18._o hour_n together_o therefore_o the_o effect_n be_v not_o to_o continue_v still_o in_o that_o manner_n on_o he_o then_o you_o 29_o you_o pag._n 29_o say_v in_o the_o utter_n of_o these_o word_n the_o cup_n do_v pass_v from_o he_o by_o my_o own_o confession_n i_o confess_v it_o not_o but_o i_o confess_v his_o extreme_a astonishment_n do_v even_o quick_o pass_v from_o he_o yet_o the_o sense_n and_o taste_v of_o that_o cup_n may_v continue_v long_o in_o such_o a_o manner_n and_o measure_n as_o he_o be_v better_o enable_v by_o his_o deity_n to_o sustain_v it_o now_o what_o ill_a be_v there_o in_o these_o conceit_n i_o pray_v you_o what_o folly_n be_v there_o in_o they_o against_o we_o herein_o you_o do_v nothing_o else_o almost_o in_o your_o large_a treatise_n sâ—eacheâ—_n injurious_a sâ—eacheâ—_n but_o heap_v up_o many_o and_o most_o false_a imputarion_n that_o we_o think_v christ_n be_v in_o 1st_a in_o pag._n â—â—â—_o 116._o 1st_a doubt_n and_o fear_n of_o god_n favour_n 1st_a favour_n pag._n 1st_a destitute_a of_o faith_n hope_n love_n joy_n forsake_v of_o god_n favour_n grace_n spirit_n that_o â—â—â—_o that_o pag._n â—â—â—_o he_o continue_v 18._o hour_n together_o amaze_v as_o it_o be_v in_o a_o trance_n that_o he_o â—â—â—_o he_o pag._n â—â—â—_o vehement_o and_o often_o struggle_v and_o strive_v in_o his_o prayer_n against_o the_o know_a will_n of_o god_n &_o seek_v by_o all_o mean_n to_o decline_v the_o work_n for_o which_o he_o come_v into_o the_o world_n his_o flesh_n fear_v death_n though_o his_o spirit_n submit_v itself_o to_o the_o will_n of_o his_o heavenly_a father_n â—â—_o father_n pag._n â—â—_o we_o put_v christ_n beside_o himself_o when_o it_o please_v we_o that_o he_o know_v not_o what_o he_o pray_v nor_o pray_v in_o faith_n your_o l._n if_o you_o have_v reason_n but_o any_o thing_n probable_a want_v not_o outward_a mean_n enough_o to_o commend_v your_o cause_n you_o need_v not_o to_o devise_v against_o we_o such_o gross_a and_o base_a untruth_n but_o it_o bewray_v how_o desperate_a your_o matter_n be_v which_o can_v not_o come_v forth_o nor_o make_v any_o show_n to_o the_o world_n without_o such_o prop_n to_o lean_v on_o beside_o that_o which_o here_o in_o several_a place_n we_o have_v declare_v to_o the_o contrary_a in_o our_o 71._o our_o pag._n 5â—_n 70._o 71._o former_a treatise_n we_o show_v our_o mind_n though_o brief_o yet_o sufficient_o against_o these_o injurious_a speech_n how_o you_o seem_v to_o avouch_v that_o christ_n be_v by_o god_n forsake_v in_o a_o body_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 114.116_o â—â—2_n 103_o â—â—ore_a 〈◊〉_d but_o not_o in_o b_o soul_n let_v they_o declare_v that_o can_v for_o my_o part_n i_o know_v not_o your_o secret_n therein_o i_o be_o sure_a no_o man_n can_v in_o truth_n maintain_v it_o as_o for_o c_o ambrosâ—_n pag._n 114._o â—â—â—e_a pag._n 113._o 128._o 1â—0_o 〈◊〉_d 1._o of_o yeâ—â—â—ion_n see_v â—â—â—re_v pag._n you_o wrest_v he_o as_o you_o do_v hilary_n &c_n &c_n do_v before_o after_o this_o you_o be_v bold_a and_o ask_v if_o e_z any_o dare_v doubt_n of_o your_o doctrine_n yea_o sure_o i_o dare_v not_o but_o doubt_n of_o it_o also_o we_o have_v see_v that_o the_o public_a f_o authorize_v doctrine_n in_o england_n dare_v to_o doubt_v of_o it_o which_o make_v christ_n put_v himself_o between_o god_n wrath_n and_o our_o sin_n a_o part_n divers_a from_o his_o bodily_a death_n on_o the_o cross_n â—_o â—â—â—ore_a pag._n â—_o yet_o the_o extreme_a part_n of_o his_o passion_n see_v also_o other_o g_o authorise_v testimony_n hereof_o but_o why_o may_v not_o any_o dare_v doubt_n of_o your_o doctrine_n 2._o pet._n 2._o because_o the_o scripture_n say_v h_o christ_n suffer_v for_o us._n leave_v we_o a_o example_n that_o we_o shall_v follow_v his_o step_n etc._n etc._n and_o this_o be_v very_o true_a also_o the_o godly_a do_v follow_v his_o step_n herein_o many_o time_n as_o i_o i_o show_v you_o before_o 120.129_o â—at_a 1._o pa._n &_o here_o 120.129_o some_o be_v conformable_a in_o some_o measure_n with_o christ_n even_o in_o these_o his_o suffering_n then_o k_n you_o say_v we_o ought_v to_o be_v glad_a and_o rejoice_v thereof_o i_o answer_v we_o ought_v to_o
have_v another_o age_n mansion_n age_n dâ—râ—_n 〈◊〉_d age_n my_o coâ—â—nuance_n or_o during_o oâ—_n my_o mansion_n or_o endure_v or_o mansion_n and_o be_v remove_v to_o another_o place_n this_o can_v not_o be_v understand_v of_o his_o carcase_n rot_v and_o waste_v away_o to_o nothing_o in_o the_o grave_n and_o therefore_o endure_v not_o as_o the_o word_n signify_v therefore_o he_o mean_v it_o of_o his_o soul_n remove_v and_o abide_v elsewhere_o also_o he_o express_o oppose_v the_o land_n of_o the_o live_n to_o sheol_n therefore_o sheol_n be_v the_o land_n of_o the_o dead_a not_o the_o grave_n only_o nor_o hell_n only_o 53.8_o only_o which_o alâ—_n to_o be_v collect_v of_o that_o in_o prophet_n toâ—â—ing_v christ_n scinditurâ—_n râ_fw-la viventiâ—_n isai_n 53.8_o but_o as_o large_a and_o as_o general_a to_o the_o dead_a and_o as_o fit_a to_o receive_v both_o the_o part_n of_o man_n yea_o both_o good_a and_o bad_a man_n but_o separate_v and_o dissolve_v as_o the_o land_n of_o the_o live_n be_v to_o receive_v both_o those_o part_n unite_v and_o knit_v together_o again_o hezekiah_n be_v a_o godly_a man_n therefore_o hell_n be_v not_o for_o he_o also_o though_o he_o shall_v not_o see_v the_o lord_n in_o the_o land_n of_o the_o live_n which_o be_v the_o thing_n he_o desire_v yet_o thereby_o he_o seem_v to_o insinuate_v that_o in_o the_o land_n of_o the_o dead_a he_o may_v see_v he_o whither_o he_o be_v about_o to_o go_v and_o that_o must_v needs_o be_v the_o place_n of_o bless_a soul_n even_o that_o which_o here_o be_v note_v by_o the_o word_n sheol_n 150._o â—â—g_v 150._o it_o be_v a_o most_o vain_a reason_n that_o you_o give_v that_o sheol_v here_o be_v to_o be_v take_v for_o hell_n and_o so_o to_o be_v translate_v because_o death_n to_o the_o wicked_a be_v the_o passage_n to_o hell_n which_o death_n hezekiah_n be_v now_o near_o unto_o it_o be_v untrue_a that_o hezekiah_n be_v near_o unto_o that_o death_n which_o the_o wicked_a die_n or_o that_o he_o fear_v that_o kind_n of_o death_n or_o that_o there_o be_v no_o sound_a difference_n between_o the_o death_n of_o the_o godly_a &_o the_o death_n of_o the_o wicked_a or_o that_o by_o any_o mean_n according_a to_o sound_a divinity_n the_o death_n of_o the_o godly_a may_v be_v name_v or_o take_v for_o hell_n this_o be_v so_o vain_a that_o i_o will_v not_o stand_v any_o long_a to_o answer_v it_o another_o objection_n of_o you_o a_o be_v as_o weak_a 400._o pag._n 400._o where_o you_o say_v sheol_n here_o must_v be_v the_o grave_a because_o it_o be_v say_v b_o afterward_o 18._o ver_fw-la 18._o sheol_n do_v not_o confess_v the_o death_n can_v praise_v thou_o etc._n etc._n though_o i_o grant_v that_o the_o grave_n be_v not_o here_o exclude_v especial_o in_o the_o word_n next_o after_o they_o that_o go_v down_o to_o the_o pit_n can_v hope_v for_o thy_o truth_n yet_o i_o affirm_v that_o sheol_n namely_o in_o the_o former_a place_n vers_n 10._o can_v exclude_v the_o mansion_n of_o good_a man_n soul_n depart_v hence_o &_o that_o for_o the_o reason_n above_o note_v neither_o here_o do_v this_o circumstance_n limit_v it_o to_o the_o grave_a only_o because_o it_o be_v say_v sheol_n confess_v not_o thou_o for_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o he_o zekiah_n mean_v not_o absolute_o that_o there_o be_v no_o praise_v of_o god_n in_o sheol_n but_o only_o he_o understand_v that_o which_o c_o he_o so_o great_o desire_v 84.1_o â—hich_v be_v ytâ—â—inary_a great_a â—re_n of_o the_o â—lly_a geneâ—y_n psal_n 42._o &_o 84.1_o the_o outward_a frequent_v of_o the_o temple_n the_o holy_a ceremony_n and_o sacrifice_n &_o join_v to_o the_o visible_a congregation_n and_o publish_v of_o god_n goodness_n to_o other_o which_o he_o express_v immediate_o to_o be_v that_o praise_n of_o god_n that_o he_o mean_v &_o can_v be_v in_o sheol_n by_o knit_v close_o to_o the_o former_a these_o word_n do_v the_o live_n 38.19_o â—sa_fw-la 38.19_o the_o live_n he_o shall_v confess_v thou_o as_o i_o do_v this_o day_n the_o father_n to_o the_o child_n shall_v declare_v the_o truth_n this_o be_v that_o which_o he_o deni_v of_o sheol_n that_o none_o there_o do_v praise_n god_n to_o the_o example_n and_o edify_n of_o other_o he_o deny_v not_o simple_o nor_o absolute_o that_o there_o be_v none_o in_o sheol_n at_o all_o in_o any_o respect_n that_o praise_n god_n the_o very_a same_o david_n express_v also_o very_o plain_o 116.9_o psal_n 116.9_o sa_v e_o i_o shall_v walk_v before_o the_o lord_n in_o the_o land_n of_o the_o live_n 118.17_o psal_n 118.17_o and_o f_o i_o shall_v not_o die_v but_o live_v and_o declare_v the_o work_n of_o the_o lord_n where_o unless_o they_o mean_v only_o this_o visible_a praise_v of_o god_n to_o other_o edify_v otherwise_o these_o holy_a man_n have_v no_o cause_n so_o great_o to_o desire_v to_o praise_n god_n here_o for_o they_o know_v very_o well_o how_o that_o for_o their_o own_o part_n they_o shall_v praise_v he_o much_o better_a and_o more_o perfect_o in_o the_o next_o world_n fanâ—â—â—â—â—_n the_o seâ—â—â—â—gint_n use_v 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o fanâ—â—â—â—â—_n to_o the_o very_a same_o purpose_n the_o septuagint_n use_v hade_n in_o other_o place_n also_o beside_o in_o their_o translate_n of_o these_o aforesaid_a for_o it_o be_v true_o and_o well_o acknowledge_v by_o you_o 4â—_n you_o pag_n 4â—_n that_o both_o these_o word_n sheol_n and_o hades_n be_v just_a all_o one_o now_o the_o septuagint_n i_o say_v in_o other_o place_n do_v show_v thus_o much_o also_o septuagint_n also_o psal_n 9_o 〈◊〉_d after_o the_o septuagint_n if_o the_o lord_n have_v not_o holpen_v i_o my_o soul_n have_v almost_o dwell_v in_o hado_n in_o hebrew_n it_o be_v in_o silence_n which_o be_v not_o mean_v of_o hell_n for_o there_o be_v weep_v and_o wail_v and_o gnash_v of_o tooth_n but_o of_o the_o state_n of_o death_n nor_o yet_o of_o the_o grave_a only_a because_o here_o it_o be_v name_v to_o be_v the_o habitation_n of_o the_o prophet_n soul_n whither_o it_o be_v almost_o come_v when_o he_o be_v like_a to_o 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in_o deed_n first_o for_o 2d_o for_o pro._n 2d_o misheol_n the_o greek_a have_v eke_o thanátou_v from_o death_n reckon_v death_n and_o sheol_n to_o be_v all_o one_o so_o in_o ecclesiastes_n eccle._n ecclesiastes_n eccle._n sheol_n and_o veâ—s_fw-fr and_o veâ—s_fw-fr hammethim_n the_o dead_a be_v in_o effect_n all_o one_o and_o the_o very_a same_o do_v esai_n call_v 3â—_n call_v isa_n 3â—_n shagnare_fw-la sheol_n the_o gate_n of_o sheol_n which_o the_o 107.18_o the_o psa_fw-la 9_o â—_o 107.18_o psalm_n and_o 3â—_n and_o job._n 3â—_n job_n do_v call_v shagnare_fw-la mave_v the_o gate_n of_o death_n in_o the_o 27â—_n the_o pâ—o._n 3â—_n and_o 27â—_n proverbes_n he_o mean_v death_n not_o hell_n nor_o the_o grave_a strict_o take_v where_o by_o a_o excellency_n the_o greediness_n of_o it_o be_v note_v for_o be_v never_o satisfy_v for_o death_n general_o crave_v more_o than_o either_o hell_n or_o the_o grave_a strict_o take_v do_v so_o likewise_o abakuk_n couple_v they_o together_o as_o be_v 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be_v to_o be_v consider_v who_o right_o according_a to_o all_o the_o rest_n say_v e_z soul_n depart_v from_o their_o body_n do_v go_v to_o hades_n that_o be_v to_o a_o invisible_a place_n which_o in_o latin_a we_o call_v infernum_fw-la and_o jerome_n f_z infernus_fw-la be_v a_o place_n where_o the_o soul_n be_v include_v either_o in_o rest_n or_o pain_n and_o ruffinus_n upon_o g_o descendit_fw-la ad_fw-la inferna_fw-la give_v this_o sense_n descendit_n in_o mortem_fw-la he_o submit_v unto_o death_n all_o the_o rest_n which_o h_o you_o cite_v or_o can_v cite_v have_v nothing_o contrary_a but_o rather_o consent_v herewith_o so_o that_o it_o be_v certain_a by_o all_o the_o father_n general_o 1._o that_o hades_n and_o sheol_n be_v take_v for_o death_n noâ—â—_n noâ—â—_n the_o common_a state_n of_o death_n or_o the_o invisible_a world_n of_o the_o dead_a common_a to_o the_o soul_n both_o of_o good_a and_o bad_a though_o their_o particular_a place_n be_v far_o separat_fw-la and_o distinct_a 2._o that_o christ_n go_v not_o into_o hell_n the_o place_n of_o the_o damn_a as_o you_o hold_v but_o to_o the_o habitation_n of_o the_o bless_a decease_a call_v also_o by_o they_o abraham_n bosom_n which_o we_o know_v and_o you_o also_o be_v indeed_o heaven_n according_a to_o that_o word_n of_o christ_n 16._o christ_n joh._n 16_o 16._o i_o leave_v the_o world_n and_o go_v to_o the_o father_n which_o i_o have_v prove_v further_o before_o pag._n 149._o 150._o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o they_o err_v general_o as_o 21_o as_o pag._n 21_o yourself_o also_o hold_v in_o think_v that_o this_o habitation_n of_o the_o bless_a soul_n be_v beneath_o in_o the_o earth_n or_o that_o it_o be_v not_o heaven_n nevertheless_o this_o be_v the_o point_n wherein_o we_o agree_v and_o wherein_o they_o err_v not_o and_o which_o i_o cite_v they_o for_o and_o which_o be_v direct_o against_o you_o that_o hade_n which_o also_o be_v sheol_n belong_v to_o the_o bless_a soul_n decease_v aswell_o as_o to_o the_o damn_a 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that_o ever_o shall_v live_v and_o shall_v not_o see_v death_n shall_v he_o deliver_v his_o soul_n from_o the_o hand_n of_o inferi_n that_o be_v death_n for_o he_o can_v not_o here_o understand_v inferi_n to_o be_v the_o grave_a because_o then_o the_o soul_n must_v signify_v the_o dead_a body_n which_o a_o you_o say_v be_v more_o than_o absurd_a 168._o â—â—g_v 168._o wherefore_o the_o soul_n here_o be_v take_v proper_o for_o the_o soul_n than_o inferi_n be_v find_v apply_v to_o just_a man_n soul_n decease_v as_o well_o as_o to_o the_o wicked_a which_o augustin_n may_v have_v observe_v 15_o â—pist_v 57_o 〈◊〉_d civet_n dei_fw-la â—_o 15_o yea_o he_o himself_o b_o elsewhere_o grant_v also_o that_o the_o just_a in_o peace_n may_v be_v in_o inferis_fw-la after_o death_n and_o here_o he_o deny_v it_o but_o cold_o &_o waver_o proinde_fw-la ut_fw-la dixi_fw-la nondum_fw-la inveni_fw-la &_o adhuc_fw-la quaero_fw-la nec_fw-la mihi_fw-la occurrit_fw-la inferos_fw-la alicubi_fw-la in_fw-la bono_fw-mi posuisse_fw-la scripturam_fw-la now_o this_o be_v augustine_n difference_n herein_o let_v the_o reader_n judge_v 175._o pag._n 363._o before_o pa._n 56._o pag._n 175._o if_o you_o say_v true_o that_o c_o austin_n judicial_o and_o resolute_o affirm_v it_o or_o be_v it_o not_o rather_o as_o i_o call_v it_o his_o †_o conjectural_a inclination_n yea_o his_o only_a for_o d_o fulgentius_n deny_v not_o inferos_fw-la to_o the_o godly_a decease_a nor_o that_o christ_n be_v local_o with_o they_o only_o in_o inferis_fw-la so_o that_o in_o say_v he_o be_v where_o the_o wicked_a be_v torment_v he_o mean_v that_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o common_a place_n which_o in_o whole_a he_o call_v infernum_fw-la thus_o than_o we_o may_v see_v that_o augustine_n differ_v herein_o be_v to_o little_a purpose_n 1._o because_o it_o be_v contrary_a to_o all_o the_o ancient_a father_n before_o he_o with_o he_o and_o since_o he_o 2._o because_o we_o must_v not_o esteem_v his_o say_n by_o the_o latin_a inferi_n but_o by_o the_o original_a sheol_n and_o hades_n which_o be_v more_o against_o he_o as_o before_o i_o have_v show_v 3._o because_o it_o be_v waver_o deliver_v &_o with_o doubt_n in_o himself_o yea_o contrary_a to_o himself_o as_o i_o have_v show_v 4._o because_o he_o seck_v to_o maintain_v it_o erroneous_o for_o he_o give_v this_o reason_n and_o end_n of_o christ_n go_v to_o hell_n the_o place_n of_o the_o damn_a that_o he_o may_v deliver_v some_o of_o the_o damn_a sinner_n out_o of_o hell_n torment_n quos_fw-la esse_fw-la solvendos_fw-la occultâ_fw-la suá_fw-la iusticiâ_fw-la iudicabat_fw-la which_o most_o strange_a conceit_n of_o his_o yourself_o e_o do_v confute_v right_o 199._o pag._n 199._o but_o either_o grant_v this_o end_n and_o reason_n to_o be_v true_a or_o else_o say_v his_o main_a opinion_n be_v false_a also_o that_o christ_n go_v thither_o see_v he_o make_v that_o the_o reason_n of_o this_o and_o why_o may_v not_o austin_n err_v as_o well_o in_o say_v that_o he_o go_v to_o hell_n after_o death_n as_o in_o say_v that_o he_o go_v thither_o to_o loose_v out_o of_o pain_n such_o and_o such_o it_o seem_v austin_n be_v carry_v into_o this_o conceit_n 99_o ut_fw-la neque_fw-la frutrà _fw-la illâ—c_fw-la decendisse_fw-la existimetur_fw-la nulli_fw-la â—orum_fw-la prosuâ—urus_fw-la qui_fw-la ibi_fw-la erant_fw-la epist_n 99_o because_o he_o can_v not_o imagine_v what_o f_z else_o christ_n shall_v do_v in_o hell_n and_o that_o he_o be_v there_o in_o deed_n he_o think_v because_o he_o guess_v contrary_a to_o all_o antiquity_n beside_o that_o the_o meaning_n of_o inferi_fw-la and_o hade_n can_v not_o be_v apply_v to_o the_o estate_n of_o bless_a soul_n after_o this_o life_n which_o mistake_v of_o his_o as_o also_o you_o with_o he_o be_v plentiful_o convince_v i_o hope_v before_o wherein_o i_o desire_v the_o learned_a to_o judge_v as_o for_o augustine_n oppose_v against_o this_o our_o sense_n of_o hades_n say_v in_o graecà _fw-la linguâ_fw-la origo_fw-la nominis_fw-la quo_fw-la appellantur_fw-la inferi_fw-la ex_fw-la eo_fw-la quòd_fw-la nihil_fw-la suave_fw-la habeant_fw-la resonare_fw-la perhibetur_fw-la it_o show_v his_o mistake_n more_o yea_o the_o very_a ground_n of_o all_o his_o mistake_n as_o i_o think_v first_o it_o appear_v by_o this_o that_o austin_n have_v very_o little_a knowledge_n in_o the_o greek_a see_v he_o think_v that_o hades_n shall_v original_o signify_v nihil_fw-la suave_fw-la nothing_o sweet_a i_o conjecture_v that_o he_o think_v hades_n be_v make_v of_o hedys_n sweet_a and_o α_n the_o privative_a wherein_o then_o he_o miss_v much_o for_o hade_n in_o greek_a have_v always_o iôta_n write_v under_o hades_n the_o nature_n hades_n which_o show_v that_o in_o the_o true_a original_n whence_o hade_n come_v there_o be_v the_o letter_n iôta_fw-mi express_v but_o in_o hedys_n sweet_a there_o be_v none_o the_o truth_n be_v it_o come_v
fore_o the_o apostle_n time_n extend_v to_o good_a and_o bad_a 371._o pag._n 371._o and_o within_o pluto_n kingdom_n under_o the_o earth_n which_o they_o call_v hades_n as_o well_o the_o place_n and_o pleasure_n for_o the_o good_a â—â—les_n â—ag_n 379._o â—â—â—d_v in_o hoâ—â—r_n virgil_n â—istophanes_v â—â—pides_fw-la and_o â—â—ers_v you_o shall_v the_o world_n â—he_v dead_a â—he_v world_n of_o â—â—es_n be_v they_o 〈◊〉_d or_o bad_a to_o â—â—in_v pluto_n â—â—gdo_n which_o greekâ—â—â—ts_n call_v â—â—les_n as_o the_o prison_n and_o punishment_n for_o the_o bad_a be_v in_o their_o conceit_n prepare_v and_o settle_v again_o b_o hades_n with_o they_o be_v the_o ruler_n or_o place_n of_o soul_n be_v they_o in_o rest_n or_o pain_n where_o you_o make_v a_o strange_a answer_n that_o christian_a religion_n will_v assure_v that_o this_o place_n must_v needs_o be_v hell_n what_o that_o place_n where_o some_o good_a man_n soul_n decease_v be_v in_o rest_n be_v this_o hell_n yea_o be_v it_o hell_n in_o christian_a religion_n who_o then_o henceforth_o will_v care_v for_o hell_n if_o some_o soul_n have_v rest_n and_o pleasure_n in_o hell_n but_o you_o say_v also_o that_o those_o heathen_a greek_n do_v think_v that_o this_o place_n of_o soul_n be_v c_o under_o the_o earth_n it_o be_v true_a they_o think_v so_o indeed_o and_o it_o be_v their_o error_n as_o also_o the_o very_a same_o be_v the_o christian_a father_n error_n likewise_o which_o they_o draw_v certain_o from_o their_o acquaintance_n with_o those_o heathen_n â—â—â—ng_n 〈◊〉_d 379.381_o 〈◊〉_d hades_n it_o â—â—â—fe_v import_v no_o such_o â—â—â—ng_n but_o no_o where_o at_o all_o from_o the_o scripture_n yet_o none_o of_o these_o think_v this_o place_n to_o be_v very_a hell_n where_o soul_n be_v in_o rest_n there_o be_v small_a rest_n and_o few_o pleasure_n in_o hell_n but_o these_o heathen_n do_v understand_v hades_n chief_o for_o pluto_n the_o ruler_n of_o this_o place_n under_o the_o earth_n 371.374_o 〈◊〉_d 371.374_o so_o that_o though_o the_o place_n be_v also_o call_v hades_n yet_o this_o be_v but_o secondary_o i_o answer_v this_o be_v questionless_a utter_o untrue_a for_o rather_o the_o place_n or_o the_o estate_n of_o the_o dead_a be_v first_o &_o original_o call_v hades_n the_o god_n thereof_o who_o afterward_o they_o idolatrous_o imagine_v they_o do_v conceive_v secondary_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o place_n or_o thing_n which_o beside_o the_o evidence_n of_o the_o matter_n i_o be_o persuade_v that_o plato_n &_o plutarch_n do_v show_v also_o plain_a enough_o even_o here_o where_o you_o cite_v they_o howsoever_o this_o be_v not_o maternal_a nor_o to_o any_o purpose_n whether_o the_o place_n and_o state_n be_v with_o they_o first_o and_o chief_o call_v hades_n or_o whether_o the_o feign_a power_n of_o death_n and_o ruler_n of_o the_o dead_a as_o they_o imagine_v be_v first_o and_o principal_o so_o call_v this_o be_v certain_a that_o this_o power_n or_o ruler_n which_o they_o conceive_v to_o be_v over_o the_o dead_a as_o they_o like_v idolator_n make_v it_o a_o god_n so_o their_o meaning_n be_v to_o esteem_v he_o as_o the_o god_n of_o the_o dead_a in_o general_n and_o his_o state_n and_o kingdom_n to_o be_v the_o before_o the_o which_o â—â—ing_n a_o principal_a pomâ—â—â—_n our_o quaâ—â—â—_n be_v full_o gâ—â—â—ted_v by_o yâ—â—â—_n before_o habitation_n of_o the_o dead_a in_o general_n not_o of_o the_o wicked_a only_o in_o hell_n but_o of_o the_o good_a also_o in_o their_o elysian_a happiness_n which_o be_v to_o they_o in_o their_o estimation_n and_o reckon_n that_o which_o heaven_n indeed_o be_v to_o us._n but_o 39_o but_o pag._n 39_o you_o say_v there_o be_v no_o one_o place_n in_o truth_n common_a to_o all_o soul_n depart_v this_o life_n but_o some_o be_v in_o hell_n and_o some_o in_o heaven_n i_o doubt_v not_o but_o the_o bless_a in_o heaven_n &_o the_o damn_a in_o hell_n be_v both_o in_o condition_n &_o situation_n separate_v a_o funder_n exceed_v far_o yet_o nevertheless_o as_o they_o be_v somewhere_o with_o the_o in_o the_o compass_n of_o the_o create_a world_n so_o they_o be_v in_o a_o common_a place_n opposite_a indeed_o to_o this_o visible_a earth_n &_o world_n of_o the_o live_n but_o common_a to_o all_o the_o dead_a namely_o in_o this_o only_a respect_n as_o they_o be_v dead_a &_o depart_v hence_o &_o be_v unseen_a &_o utter_o exempt_v from_o all_o mutual_a meddle_v together_o with_o we_o that_o do_v live_v moreover_o we_o stand_v not_o so_o much_o on_o this_o that_o by_o hades_n must_v be_v understand_v any_o one_o place_n common_a to_o all_o the_o dead_a but_o the_o state_n and_o condition_n of_o death_n among_o the_o dead_a or_o the_o power_n and_o dominion_n of_o death_n which_o very_o apt_o also_o it_o serve_v for_o and_o fit_v our_o purpose_n aswell_o as_o to_o understand_v there_o by_o a_o common_a place_n but_o indeed_o all_o this_o i_o doubt_v not_o hades_n very_o well_o may_v signify_v when_o it_o be_v refer_v to_o man_n according_a to_o the_o circumstance_n of_o the_o author_n where_o it_o be_v read_v but_o this_o hades_n you_o say_v in_o those_o heathen_a author_n 41â—_n author_n pag._n 3â—â—_n 378_o 41â—_n be_v the_o very_a devil_n himself_o therefore_o his_o kingdom_n must_v be_v needs_o nothing_o but_o hell_n i_o answer_v the_o heathen_a in_o their_o conceit_n think_v he_o not_o to_o be_v a_o devil_n but_o a_o signifieâ—_n a_o vâ—z_fw-fr that_o 〈◊〉_d or_o of_o dâ—â—â—_n which_o by_o 〈◊〉_d be_v somâ—_n signifieâ—_n god_n even_o the_o god_n and_o ruler_n over_o all_o the_o dead_a and_o so_o they_o worship_v this_o foul_a idol_n therefore_o his_o whole_a kingdom_n &_o region_n they_o reckon_v to_o be_v the_o world_n of_o the_o dead_a or_o dominion_n of_o death_n which_o also_o they_o call_v hades_n it_o may_v be_v 37â—_n be_v pag._n 37â—_n porphyry_n mean_v that_o they_o hold_v he_o to_o be_v lord_n and_o ruler_n over_o hell_n and_o all_o the_o wicked_a spirit_n and_o devil_n therein_o yet_o he_o say_v not_o but_o that_o hades_n or_o pluto_n be_v think_v by_o they_o to_o have_v power_n over_o all_o the_o dead_a his_o rage_n against_o man_n and_o the_o fear_n that_o man_n have_v of_o he_o signify_v the_o unmercifulnes_n of_o death_n spare_v none_o and_o how_o it_o be_v to_o the_o nature_n of_o all_o man_n a_o thing_n most_o terrible_a so_o that_o they_o esteem_v a_o part_n indeed_o of_o his_o dominion_n to_o be_v hell_n peculiar_o but_o a_o part_n also_o to_o be_v the_o region_n of_o the_o happy_a which_o be_v their_o heaven_n but_o you_o say_v this_o be_v the_o devil_n yea_o even_o as_o the_o rest_n of_o their_o god_n be_v also_o very_a devil_n indeed_o &_o nothing_o else_o so_o be_v their_o high_a jupiter_n and_o so_o be_v apollo_n and_o so_o be_v mercury_n and_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o god_n and_o goddess_n which_o their_o impiety_n adore_v they_o be_v indeed_o none_o other_o then_o very_a devil_n illude_v the_o vanity_n of_o man_n and_o thus_o i_o grant_v be_v their_o hades_n or_o pluto_n likewise_o howbeit_o in_o their_o estimation_n he_o be_v not_o proper_o the_o devil_n but_o a_o power_n or_o ruler_n over_o the_o dead_a both_o good_a and_o bad_a and_o his_o kingdom_n the_o dominion_n and_o world_n of_o the_o dead_a both_o good_a and_o bad_a 171._o pag._n 171._o but_o a_o you_o remit_v poet_n and_o pagan_n use_v this_o word_n to_o the_o alleager_n yet_o poet_n &_o pagan_n be_v the_o authentic_a master_n for_o grammar_n both_o greek_a &_o latin_n yea_o they_o be_v you_o i_o doubt_v not_o in_o time_n past_a â—70_n before_o pag._n â—70_n austin_n as_o we_o see_v allow_v the_o etymology_n and_o natural_a property_n of_o hade_n to_o be_v regard_v yea_o all_o learned_a man_n in_o all_o age_n condemn_v this_o your_o reject_v of_o pagan_n and_o poet_n for_o the_o grammatical_a use_n of_o word_n who_o still_o they_o do_v regard_n and_o follow_v in_o this_o respect_n but_o here_o let_v we_o observe_v how_o the_o holy_a apostle_n do_v teach_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o gospel_n with_o the_o very_a word_n and_o language_n of_o the_o heathen_n observation_n observation_n there_o be_v in_o this_o point_n 3._o or_o 4._o thing_n that_o must_v be_v well_o observe_v and_o remember_v 1._o the_o apostle_n do_v speak_v of_o the_o mystery_n of_o true_a religion_n with_o the_o heathen_n word_n as_o i_o say_v yet_o so_o as_o that_o when_o the_o heathen_n word_n do_v imply_v some_o error_n with_o truth_n then_o in_o other_o express_a place_n they_o plentiful_o refute_v all_o their_o error_n imply_v in_o their_o word_n whereby_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v that_o all_o the_o proportion_n of_o truth_n which_o the_o heathen_a signify_v by_o they_o be_v yet_o full_o and_o right_o signify_v still_o in_o the_o apostle_n use_v of_o they_o but_o nothing_o further_o that_o be_v none_o of_o the_o
other_o fancy_n &_o fiction_n of_o the_o heathen_a as_o for_o example_n zeus_n jupiter_n be_v among_o the_o heathen_n their_o great_a god_n &_o he_o only_o be_v their_o high_a of_o who_o beside_o they_o hold_v a_o 1000_o fable_n and_o indeed_o he_o be_v none_o other_o but_o a_o devil_n as_o be_v before_o note_v nevertheless_o the_o apostle_n use_v the_o same_o for_o the_o only_a true_a god_n the_o author_n and_o governor_n of_o heaven_n and_o earth_n pass_v by_o all_o their_o fable_n when_o he_o appli_v the_o poet_n verse_n 2d_o verse_n act._n 2d_o his_o generation_n also_o we_o be_v tartarus_n which_o 3â—_n which_o pag._n 3â—_n you_o object_n though_o rare_o &_o sometime_o perhaps_o a_o philosopher_n will_v note_v thereby_o the_o air_n yet_o indeed_o usual_o and_o in_o a_o manner_n always_o they_o mean_v hell_n by_o it_o with_o a_o thousand_o of_o dream_n thereto_o belong_v yet_o peter_n not_o canonise_a nor_o commend_v their_o dream_n and_o fiction_n of_o hell_n notwithstanding_o signifi_v hell_n indeed_o by_o that_o word_n of_o they_o according_a to_o their_o common_a use_n thereof_o and_o according_a to_o the_o proportion_n of_o truth_n which_o therein_o they_o hold_v so_o daimonion_n which_o also_o ibâ—â—_n also_o pag._n ibâ—â—_n you_o object_n they_o use_v to_o signify_v by_o it_o both_o good_a and_o bad_a spirit_n follow_v and_o converse_v with_o they_o and_o the_o good_a they_o honour_v as_o god_n but_o indeed_o and_o in_o truth_n see_v these_o same_o be_v all_o devil_n therefore_o the_o scripture_n hold_v not_o the_o heathen_n erroneous_a meaning_n in_o this_o word_n yet_o it_o do_v retain_v that_o which_o they_o understand_v by_o it_o true_o that_o be_v to_o signify_v devil_n and_o bad_a spirit_n again_o theos_n the_o heathen_a use_v for_o to_o express_v the_o nature_n of_o god_n but_o so_o as_o that_o they_o think_v it_o common_a to_o many_o several_a god_n the_o apostle_n use_v the_o word_n also_o for_o the_o true_a god_n yet_o not_o understand_v therein_o a_o nature_n common_a to_o many_o which_o error_n they_o otherwise_o clear_o and_o often_o refute_v and_o thus_o we_o may_v speak_v of_o infinite_a mo_z the_o like_a word_n as_o fear_n the_o power_n and_o strength_n whereof_o they_o also_o feign_v to_o be_v a_o god_n and_o of_o hope_n and_o of_o revenge_n goddess_n etc._n etc._n like_o whereunto_o be_v hades_n even_o that_o which_o present_o we_o have_v in_o hand_n hadeâ—_n the_o diveâ—â—_n applicatâ—â—_n of_o hadeâ—_n with_o the_o heathen_a it_o common_o and_o most_o usual_o signify_v the_o state_n of_o dead_a man_n sometime_o rare_o the_o destruction_n of_o other_o thing_n which_o perish_v out_o of_o this_o visible_a world_n &_o have_v no_o more_o be_v here_o whereof_o anon_o we_o shall_v see_v further_o howbeit_o now_o to_o consider_v it_o as_o it_o respect_v man_n only_o thus_o the_o heathen_n chief_o and_o common_o by_o hades_n understand_v the_o state_n i_o say_v and_o condition_n of_o man_n both_o good_a and_o bad_a decease_a and_o go_v out_o of_o this_o world_n and_o they_o mean_v it_o common_o for_o the_o destruction_n of_o their_o person_n from_o out_o of_o this_o world_n general_o and_o indifferent_o again_o oftentimes_o particular_o touch_v their_o body_n burial_n also_o particular_o many_o thing_n touch_v their_o soul_n state_n be_v part_v from_o the_o body_n some_o of_o which_o they_o believe_v be_v in_o blessedness_n some_o in_o torment_n although_o they_o signify_v neither_o of_o these_o in_o the_o word_n hades_n but_o only_o as_o i_o say_v their_o state_n after_o their_o departure_n hence_o also_o they_o think_v some_o of_o the_o bless_a soul_n to_o be_v in_o the_o a_o chief_a blessedness_n 376._o which_o you_o â—â—iect_v pag._n â—â—4_n 376._o that_o be_v in_o presence_n with_o the_o god_n yet_o they_o be_v in_o hades_n also_o that_o be_v in_o a_o other_o world_n after_o they_o be_v wipe_v out_o from_o hence_o hither_o they_o admit_v only_o philosopher_n â—_o treat_n 1_o pa._n â—_o heroê_n &_o such_o like_a thus_o hither_o it_o be_v that_o b_o plato_n assign_v socrates_n and_o thus_o socrates_n himself_o hope_v to_o go_v to_o hades_n to_o the_o wise_a and_o good_a god_n other_o soul_n of_o good_a man_n they_o give_v blessedness_n unto_o in_o the_o elysian_a field_n under_o the_o earth_n as_o they_o fancy_v or_o where_o else_o i_o know_v not_o and_o these_o be_v also_o in_o hades_n so_o that_o both_o these_o estate_n and_o condition_n of_o bless_a soul_n decease_v which_o be_v their_o heaven_n though_o differ_v very_o much_o in_o place_n they_o yield_v to_o be_v in_o hades_n whence_o i_o think_v some_o of_o the_o father_n and_o after_o they_o some_o papist_n have_v feign_v divers_a place_n of_o rest_n and_o joy_n to_o the_o dead_a heaven_n present_o to_o the_o martyr_n but_o to_o other_o good_a christian_n a_o other_o place_n of_o rest_n &_o joy_n which_o they_o call_v abraham_n bosom_n either_o in_o the_o earth_n or_o where_o they_o also_o know_v not_o howbeit_o into_o the_o glory_n of_o heaven_n and_o the_o presence_n of_o god_n and_o of_o christ_n they_o admit_v none_o save_v only_o the_o martyr_n before_o the_o last_o day_n but_o this_o error_n and_o all_o other_o error_n about_o hades_n the_o apostle_n sufficient_o confute_v in_o their_o writing_n so_o that_o we_o be_v not_o now_o to_o respect_v the_o same_o in_o the_o use_n of_o hades_n only_o we_o be_v therefore_o to_o note_v how_o much_o and_o what_o beside_o all_o error_n may_v be_v true_o retain_v and_o mean_v by_o the_o apostle_n in_o apply_v this_o word_n hades_n as_o the_o heathen_a do_v to_o both_o sort_n of_o soul_n of_o dead_a man_n they_o may_v true_o understand_v that_o both_o have_v one_o common_a condition_n and_o state_n as_o touch_v their_o be_v in_o another_o world_n as_o they_o be_v dissolve_v depart_v from_o and_o wipe_v out_o of_o this_o visible_a world_n &_o aâ—_n they_o be_v now_o in_o the_o world_n of_o the_o dead_a a_o opposite_a estate_n &_o condition_n to_o the_o live_n this_o also_o the_o very_a natural_a etymology_n of_o the_o word_n according_a to_o grammar_n do_v proper_o yield_v in_o that_o it_o signify_v c_o unseen_a sheol_n hades_n the_o â—â—ke_v may_v be_v â—â—â—id_v of_o sheol_n or_o not_o see_v any_o more_o in_o this_o world_n or_o a_o estate_n not_o see_v here_o with_o we_o topos_fw-fr aîdes_fw-la a_o unseen_a place_n as_o plato_n call_v it_o where_o note_n it_o can_v be_v refer_v to_o the_o estate_n of_o angel_n because_o hades_n be_v the_o unseen_a state_n of_o they_o that_o once_o have_v a_o visible_a and_o ordinary_a be_v and_o conversation_n here_o in_o this_o world_n so_o that_o in_o very_a deed_n it_o have_v proper_o but_o a_o privative_a sense_n &_o not_o any_o thing_n positive_a in_o it_o though_o this_o do_v you_o can_v not_o brook_v all_o this_o then_o the_o apostle_n may_v well_o understand_v &_o allow_v in_o the_o word_n hades_n 396._o pag._n 396._o without_o any_o taint_n of_o heathenism_n and_o therefore_o also_o doubtless_o so_o they_o do_v but_o the_o heathen_n further_o make_v hades_n a_o divine_a power_n who_o also_o they_o call_v pluto_n as_o it_o be_v the_o god_n of_o death_n or_o of_o the_o dead_a because_o as_o before_o be_v show_v they_o dream_v that_o he_o hold_v all_o that_o be_v dead_a under_o his_o power_n both_o bless_a &_o damn_a soul_n and_o because_o no_o man_n that_o die_v whether_o good_a or_o bad_a do_v ever_o live_v here_o again_o and_o because_o all_o whosoever_o without_o exception_n must_v die_v therefore_o they_o call_v he_o hades_n améilichos_fw-fr kai_fw-fr adámastos_fw-la implacable_a and_o unmastered_a and_o nélees_n êtor_n echôn_o have_v a_o mercilesso_fw-la bear_v it_o in_o which_o sense_n in_o latin_a also_o they_o use_v parca_fw-la destiny_n the_o end_n of_o all_o because_o it_o spare_v none_o certain_o this_o deify_n of_o such_o a_o power_n or_o to_o make_v a_o god_n of_o it_o the_o apostle_n abhor_v and_o every_o where_n in_o their_o write_n they_o show_v what_o idolatry_n and_o extreme_a impiety_n it_o be_v but_o yet_o they_o may_v and_o do_v acknowledge_v such_o a_o power_n of_o death_n which_o work_v this_o destruction_n of_o all_o man_n from_o the_o world_n &_o detain_v they_o in_o death_n afterward_o wherefore_o they_o have_v in_o sundry_a place_n prosopopoeas_n thereof_o as_o in_o the_o revelation_n the_o key_n of_o death_n and_o hades_n death_n ride_v on_o a_o pale_a horse_n and_o hades_n follow_v after_o he_o death_n and_o hades_n yield_v up_o their_o dead_a and_o both_o be_v cast_v into_o hell_n likewise_o that_o o_o death_n where_o be_v thy_o sting_n o_o power_n of_o death_n where_o be_v thy_o victory_n but_o of_o these_o more_o anon_o hitherto_o the_o 1._o observation_n be_v manefe_a that_o the_o apostle_n use_v the_o heathen_n word_n yet_o need_v not_o nor_o
do_v nor_o understand_v in_o they_o any_o of_o their_o fancy_n and_o error_n which_o by_o their_o doctrine_n otherwise_o they_o refute_v nevertheless_o they_o may_v and_o do_v understand_v the_o general_a truth_n signify_v in_o they_o whatsoever_o the_o heathen_n use_v by_o they_o to_o signify_v and_o imply_v and_o thus_o be_v our_o word_n in_o controversy_n hades_n clear_v but_o to_o clear_v the_o rest_n also_o of_o those_o which_o 36â—_n which_o pag._n 36â—_n you_o object_n sec_n we_o be_v to_o observe_v that_o the_o apostle_n transfer_v the_o heathen_n civil_a word_n many_o time_n to_o their_o ecclesiastical_a use_n namely_o keep_v yet_o still_o the_o proportion_n of_o their_o former_a sense_n as_o in_o these_o apostle_n bishop_n deacon_n gospel_n law_n sin_n repentance_n hope_n conscience_n concupiscence_n etc._n etc._n which_o change_n be_v small_a and_o easy_a since_o the_o word_n have_v a_o just_a proportion_n still_o together_o both_o in_o civil_a and_o ecclesiastical_a use_n 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