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A11048 The courtiers academie comprehending seuen seuerall dayes discourses: wherein be discussed, seuen noble and important arguments, worthy by all gentlemen to be perused. 1 Of beautie. 2 Of humane loue. 3 Of honour. 4 Of combate and single fight. 5 Of nobilitie. 6 Of riches. 7 Of precedence of letters or armes originally written in Italian by Count Haniball Romei, a gentleman of Ferrara, and translated into English by I.K.; Discorsi. English Romei, Annibale, conte, 16th cent.; Keper, John, b. 1546 or 7, attributed name.; I. K. 1598 (1598) STC 21311; ESTC S116155 207,844 304

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