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A36591 Innocency and truth vindicated, or, A sober reply to Mr. Will's answer to a late treatise of baptisme wherein the authorities and antiquities for believers and against infants baptism are defended ... : with a brief answer to Mr. Blinmans essay / by Henry Danvers. Danvers, Henry, d. 1687. 1675 (1675) Wing D223; ESTC R8412 108,224 202

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there_o be_v none_o baptise_a in_o it_o but_o believer_n first_o because_o there_o be_v n●_n precept_n to_o baptise_v any_o other_o second_o no_o example_n for_o any_o other_o and_o three_o from_o what_o be_v say_v of_o they_o act._n 16.40_o they_o be_v only_o adult_a person_n capable_a of_o instruction_n and_o consolation_n for_o t●_n say_v paul_n and_o sylas_n after_o they_o come_v out_o of_o prison_n enter_v into_o the_o house_n of_o lydia_n and_o comfort_v the_o brethren_n there_o viz_o those_o in_o that_o family_n that_o have_v be_v trouble_v for_o the_o hard_a usuage_n and_o imprisonment_n of_o th●_n apostles_n beside_o it_o be_v very_o probable_a lydia_n be_v a_o single_a person_n no_o husband_n be_v mention_v but_o she_o in_o chief_a all_o along_o but_o sure_o it_o be_v on_o their_o part_n that_o say_v she_o have_v child_n and_o baptize_v child_n too_o to_o prove_v it_o for_o ●_o yet_o it_o do_v not_o appear_v but_o the_o contrary_n so_o that_o here_o i●_n neither_o child_n 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