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A36591 Innocency and truth vindicated, or, A sober reply to Mr. Will's answer to a late treatise of baptisme wherein the authorities and antiquities for believers and against infants baptism are defended ... : with a brief answer to Mr. Blinmans essay / by Henry Danvers. Danvers, Henry, d. 1687. 1675 (1675) Wing D223; ESTC R8412 108,224 202

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