Selected quad for the lemma: truth_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
truth_n	woman_n	word_n	write_n	35	3	9.3855	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A94733	An apology or plea for the Two treatises, and appendix to them concerning infant-baptisme; published Decemb. 15. 1645. Against the unjust charges, complaints, and censures of Doctor Nathanael Homes, Mr Iohn Geree, Mr Stephen Marshall, Mr John Ley, and Mr William Hussey; together with a postscript by way of reply to Mr Blakes answer to Mr Tombes his letter, and Mr Edmund Calamy, and Mr Richard Vines preface to it. Wherein the principall heads of the dispute concerning infant-baptism are handled, and the insufficiency of the writings opposed to the two treatises manifested. / By Iohn Tombes, B.D.	Tombes, John, 1603?-1676.	1646 (1646)	Wing T1801; Thomason E352_1; ESTC R201072	143,666	170

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quapropter_fw-la vir_fw-la ornatissime_fw-la super_fw-la istis_fw-la apicibus_fw-la doctrinae_fw-la successione_n scilicet_fw-la baptismi●●_n lecum_fw-la circumcisionis_fw-la &_o paedobaptismi_fw-la origin●_n te_fw-la cujus_fw-la periti●_n in_fw-la rebus_fw-la &_o scriptis_fw-la hebraicis_fw-la &_o ecclesiasticis_fw-la veritatis_fw-la amor_fw-la animique_fw-la candour_n satis_fw-la spectantur_fw-la &_o latè_fw-la praedicantur_fw-la consulendum_fw-la duxi_fw-la pla●eat_fw-la itaque_fw-la claritudini_fw-la tu●_n mihi_fw-la quanquam_fw-la obscure_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d tamen_fw-la tanquam_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d super_fw-la ●stare_fw-la animi_fw-la sententiam_fw-la tui_fw-la impertire_fw-la et_fw-la quoniam_fw-la sit_v scio_fw-la te_fw-la plurimis_fw-la iisque_fw-la gravissimis_fw-la negotits_fw-fr occupari_fw-la responsum_fw-la tuum_fw-la se●_n pluribus_fw-la seu_fw-la pa●cioribus_fw-la verbis_fw-la tempore_fw-la à_fw-la ●eipso_fw-la posite_fw-la expect_v abit_fw-la dignitatis_fw-la vestrae_fw-la observantissi●●_n joannes_n tomb_n londini_fw-la ●●dibus_fw-la recto●is_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la 〈◊〉_d church_n 〈…〉_z august●●●4_n 1644._o though_o the_o answer_n be_v no_o other_o than_o a_o reference_n of_o i_o to_o the_o book_n i_o may_v meet_v with_o in_o stationer_n shop_n yet_o i_o conceive_v this_o advantage_n i_o have_v by_o it_o that_o what_o i_o find_v in_o book_n extant_a may_v be_v the_o more_o safe_o rely_v on_o and_o that_o my_o diligence_n to_o discover_v the_o truth_n will_v be_v the_o more_o apparent_a for_o which_o i_o deny_v myself_o rest_v write_n and_o without_o recompense_n from_o man_n lay_v out_o more_o than_o my_o estate_n can_v bear_v but_o m._n mar._n seem_v ready_a to_o catch_v at_o any_o thing_n that_o may_v make_v i_o suspect_v and_o so_o bring_v my_o writing_n out_o of_o credit_n &_o p._n 78._o of_o his_o defence_n thus_o he_o speak_v i_o be_o misinform_v by_o good_a friend_n who_o know_v &_o love_v you_o very_o well_o if_o 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new_a opinion_n why_o be_v not_o doctor_n twisse_n and_o master_n gataker_n and_o indeed_o all_o that_o clear_a truth_n more_o full_o than_o other_o censure_v in_o the_o like_a manner_n i_o wish_v if_o my_o word_n will_v take_v any_o impression_n on_o he_o that_o master_n martial_n will_v forbear_v thus_o judge_v lest_o he_o be_v judge_v i_o think_v i_o know_v myself_o better_a than_o master_n martial_n and_o i_o tell_v he_o my_o real_a intention_n be_v to_o discover_v truth_n yea_o all_o my_o way_n show_v i_o free_a from_o this_o itch_n after_o new_a opinion_n though_o i_o profess_v myself_o a_o impartial_a searcher_n of_o truth_n ●●llius_fw-la addictum_fw-la jurare_fw-la in_o verba_fw-la ●agistri_fw-la no_o not_o to_o the_o determination_n of_o the_o assembly_n may_v it_o not_o with_o better_a reason_n be_v say_v they_o have_v a_o itch_n after_o new_a opinion_n who_o hold_v that_o without_o power_n to_o suspend_v all_o scandalous_a person_n from_o the_o lord_n supper_n a_o man_n can_v with_o a_o good_a conscience_n be_v a_o pastor_n that_o without_o this_o power_n the_o church_n of_o christ_n be_v to_o be_v suspend_v from_o the_o lord_n supper_n many_o year_n etc._n etc._n and_o for_o fleight_v of_o author_n i_o have_v answer_v it_o already_o there_o be_v yet_o another_o charge_n as_o if_o i_o shall_v allege_v author_n against_o their_o mind_n beza_n as_o first_o master_n daniel_n rogers_n i_o say_v master_n daniel_n rogers_n in_o his_o treatise_n of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n part._n 1._o pag._n 79._o confess_v himself_o unconvince_v by_o demonstration_n of_o scripture_n for_o it_o master_n martial_n write_v to_o master_n daniel_n rogers_n he_o answer_v in_o these_o word_n if_o i_o be_v to_o answer_v that_o anabaptist_n i_o shall_v answer_v 〈◊〉_d silen●io_n &_o contemptu_fw-la for_o why_o shall_v i_o not_o since_o in_o that_o very_a place_n of_o my_o sacrament_n part._n 1._o pag._n 78._o 79._o where_o i_o confute_v thos●_n schosmaticks_n he_o 〈◊〉_d my_o word_n from_o their_o own_o defence_n my_o word_n be_v i_o confess_v myself_o unconvince_v by_o any_o demonstration_n of_o scripture_n for_o ●●●dabaptisme_n mean_v by_o any_o positive_a text_n what_o be_v that_o to_o help_v he_o except_o i_o think_v there_o be_v no_o other_o argument_n to_o evince_v it_o now_o what_o i_o think_v of_o that_o my_o next_o word_n show_v pag._n 77._o line_n 4_o 5_o 6_o 7._o i_o need_v 〈◊〉_d transcribe_v they_o in_o a_o word_n this_o i_o say_v though_o i_o know_v 〈◊〉_d yet_o that_o be_v no_o argument_n for_o the_o non-baptizing_a of_o infant_n since_o so_o many_o scripture_n be_v sufficient_o convince_a for_o it_o therefore_o this_o want_n of_o a_o 〈◊〉_d text_n must_v no_o more_o exclude_v infant_n etc._n etc._n then_o the_o like_a reason_n shall_v disannul_v a_o christian_a sabbath_n or_o woman_n kind_n not_o to_o be_v partaker_n