detestandis Idolis The truth of these things is so generally known throughout the Nation that as I am sorry the mention thereof should drive Mr. T. into such a sweaâ—ing passion as it seems to do so can I not but wonder at his confidence in calling those things palpable gross untruths when the whole Nation knows the contrary His Satyrical expressions I omit The visible Lineaments and Characters of false Prophets being instamped upon the fore-heads of the present Ministers they are not to be heard but separated from CHAP. VIII Arg. 6. Sect. 1. A sixth Argument against hearing the present Ministers Saints must not have Communion with Idolaters The vanity of Mr. T. his arguings to the contrary evinced 1 Cor. 10. 14. 2 Cor. 6. 14 15 16 17 18 opened A threefold Idolatry Whether the Idolaters of old worshipped the creature terminatively Of the golden Calf Baal Molech That the Worshippers of them worshipped them not terminatively proved Of devil-Devil-Worship Psal 106. 37 38 explained The Heathen Images dedicated to the true God The Testimony of the Heathens in this matter Of refined Idolatry Worshiping of God in a way not of his appointment is Idolatry The Testimony of Calvin Perkins Ames Pareus Willet Peter Martyr c. to the truth of the Assertion The Romans worshipped the Godds an hundred and seventy years and more without Images A Sixth Argument advanced in S. T. against hearing the present Ministers is this Those that are guilty of Idolatry Saints may not have communion with much less own them as their Teachers but ought to separate from them But the present Ministers of England are guilty of Idolatry Therefore The Major is bottomed upon express Commands from Christ 1 Cor. 5. 11. 10. 14. 2 Cor. 6. 14 18. To which Mr. T. replies 1. The Conclusion is not the same with that which Chap. 1. was undertaken to be defended That it is not lawful for Saints to hear the present Ministers which we may do though Communion with them be unlawful though we are bound not to own them as our Teachers but separate from them Answ Now this I confess I understand not Communion consists in giving and receiving a constant or frequent attending upon any ones teaching especially when by the Prelates instituted and inducted to such a Parish as a Teacher whereof I am a Member is an Argument of my owning him for my Teacher Separation from any one consists in this that I have no Communion with him in that in respect of which I am bound to separate from him That I should with frequency hear a man preach as a Minister of the Gospel and yet be said to have no Communion with him to separate from him is an Aenigma that needs some Oedipus to unravel He tells us 2dly The Major is not true if the Idolatry be in worshiping in any other way than what he hath prescribed or if the Idolatry be secret or if open if by infirmity a man falls into it and repents or be not censured as such or teacheth not such Idolatry nor requires any communion with him in his Idolatry Answ 1. If the Major be not true it follows that its lawful to have Communion with Idolaters for with persons guilty of Idolatry the Major saith we must not have Communion Mr. T. is driveâ— to his shifts indeed when to defend the cause he hath undertaken he is forced to plead for such gross absurdities so contradictory to the Scriptures and the judgment of all sober Christians that ever were in the world 2. If worshipping God in another way than he hath appointed be in Scripture Idolatry and in it we are commanded to abstain from such Worship and Worshippers then though the Idolatry consist therein the Major is true When the Scripture commands us to flee from Idolatry it means that which is so in its own sense not Mr. T 's 3. 'T is true I am not to separate from a person I know not to be guilty of Idolatry till I know he is so but this reacheth not the case of the present Ministers whom we prove manifestly guilty hereof When Ezekiel once came to understand that the Antients of the House of Israel committed Idolatry in the Chambers of their Imagery Ezek. 8. 7 to 13. he might not have Communion with them though they committed it in the dark 4. Repentance restores a man fallen into the same place amongst the Saints he was in before he fell but this is not at all to the purpose the present Ministers justifie their actings would compel aâ—l to do as they do 5. That 't is not our duty to separate from Idolaters till they are under Church-censure is a meer fancy 1st What if they are such as are in no Church-state persons without with whom the Church hath nothing to do 2dly What if the so called Church be generally overspread with Idolatry as our Animadverter will confess the Church of Rome is must I wait the Churches censure till I refuse to hold communion with Idolaters Is it ever likely that an Apostate Idolatrous Church will pass sentence upon it self or rational that I hold communion with them till they do So is 6. That 't is not our duty so to do except they teach it and require my communion with them in it For 1. he that practiseth it teacheth it by his practice 2. As it relates to the present Ministers 't is vain and frivolous they both practise and preach it and require my communion with them in it He saith 3dly The Texts do not prove the Major Answ Let the judicious Reader judge for himself whether they do or no 1 Cor. 5. 11. we have already vindicated from his exceptions That 1 Cor. 10. 14. is not to our purpose because the Apostle onely saith Flee from Idolatry not from teachers that are Idolaters is a fond conceit The intendment of the Apostle is to provoke to the greatest circumspection not onely to avoid the thing it self which saith Pareus Was not only the gross Idolatry of the Gentiles but every kind of Idolatry but all the occasions thereof And certainly the hearing or attending on the ministry of persons guilty of Idolatry is no mean occasion thereof 2 Cor. 6. 14 15 16 17 18. commands separation from the Idol Mr. T. grants Now I must profess I know not by what Logick he will prove that though it be my duty to separate from Idols I may so far retain communion with the Idolater as to own him for my Teacher the very repeating these absurdities is confutation sufficient Before we attempt the proof of the minor Proposition we premise in S. T. That Idolatry may be considered under a threefold Notion 1. Most gross and absurd Idolatry when the creature is worshiped terminatively This we say few are guilty of In the matter of the golden Calf Israel was not they worshipped God in it Exod. 32. 5. Maimonides de Idolat 8. 2 3. tells us That through the Idols Idolaters worshipped
the same or greater wickednesses are committed and increase groans to the Lord in us to cause the light of his glorious Gospel to arise and shine upon them as also stir us up to thankfulness for the light of the Gospel he hath sent amongst us and whilst we have it to walk in it not loving darkness more than light But thus far will the light of Nature engraven upon the heart lead us with respect to the right Worship of God and I humbly conceive ne plus ultra not a step farther 2dly As there is a natural or moral Worship of God so is there that which is ceremonial or instituted which depends upon Divine Revelation and is nothing but the expression of the moral and internal Worship of God our love faith fear subjection of and to him in those external wayes that are of his own revelation wherein he hath said he will have us manifest and express them and as a great encouragement thereunto hath promised in our so doing to meet with us and bless us This is that which is most usually in Scripture called the Worship of God and Christ And this is that Worship whereunto I refer hearing the Word as 't is a Gospel-Institution to be practised by the Saints which was so plainly asserted in the Sober Testimony that there was no occasion for Mr. T. to trouble himself or the Reader with his guessing at the meaning of the Author did he not delight to multiply words but to have owned it if true or otherwise to have addressed himself to the confutation thereof That which I asserted was that Hearing by the Saints under the dispensation of the Gospel for of them and their duty is the question proposed pag. 13. is part of Instituted Worship Which when Mr. T. endeavours the confutation of I may be supposed to be concern'd in his discourses but till then the most partially addicted Reader will acquit me from any bounden service or attendance on them 'T is an easie way of answering Books though not much to edification to desert the main point to be impugned and divertise ones self and Reader with discourses that are but at best collateral thereunto and scarce speak a word to that which is the alone thing to be spoken to as Mr. T. in this matter hath done So that in what he saith not speaking to the thing in question in these two first Sections I am little concerned yet can I not but take notice of one thing 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 as we pass on which I cannot close with him in viz. That we worship God in hearing when we hear which he pretends to prove from 1 Thess 2. 13. which as thus crudely proposed I humbly conceive is very remote from truth There is more to be done than so I am apt to think that those who worship God in hearing must first come to it as to an Institution of Christ Which if a man doth nor he worships not God at all therein For persons to come to hear a Sermon out of custom curiosity lothness to undergo the penalties of the Land censures of others for company or the like not heeding it or coming to it as an Institution of Christ will hardly be accounted by the Lord as worshipping him being indeed not at all so 2dly That they set themselves to hear what is spoken as the Word of the eternal God receive it in meekness faith love giving up themselves to its authority and conduct which except we do we worship not God Jehoiakim in Jeremiah heard the Roll read but he takes his Penknife cuts it in pieces and throws it into the fire The Pharisees hear Christ preach Luke 16. 14. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 they blew their noses at him in scorn and derision Act. 7. you have Stephen preaching to the Jews who for a great while hear him with silence and attention bâ—t v. 54. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 they were vexed so as if they had been cut with a Saw 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 they shewed their teeth and grind them like mad dogs against him To which many more instances might be added of such as heard the Word of God under such abominable passions Will Mr. T. say that such as these worship God in hearing what more absurd And yet if he deny it his Assertion falls to the ground That men worship God in hearing when they hear 'T is one device of Satan to undo souls and no mean one by miscalling things and appropriating those names and titles to them that do not belong to them to cause them to think that they have and do what they neither have nor do Some transient checks of conscience slight and superficial sorrow for sin assent to propositions of truth escaping the pollutions of the world saying their prayers going to hear he calls and would make poor hearts believe they are so the saving convictions of the Spirit Gospel-humiliation precious unfeigned Faith Evangelical Sanctication and Holiness worshipping God c. which if they do they have only this advantage that they go down with more pomp and state to Hell than those that know nothing of these semblances of Grace and Holiness 'T is a fond conceit that poor blind ignorant creatures flatter themselves with that their going to Church as they call it and joyning with the Preacher in the outward acts of praying and preaching supposing it to be according to the Institution of Christ is worshiping God and I am sorry to find Mr. T. by such expressions hardning them in this dangerous conceit Alas ye cannot thus worshâ—p God for he is a jealous God he is a Spirit and will be worshipped in Spirit and in Truth Precious Mr. Burroughs in his Treatise of gospel-Gospel-Worship speaks excellently to this matter pag. 93. Though I do kneel down in prayer and present my body to hear the Word this is noâ— to worship God as a Spirit and yet he that worships him not as a Spirit worships him not at all And p. 109. Many people think it a very easie matter to worship God and so it were if Mr. T. his Assertion were true If it were nothing else to worship God but to come and hear a Sermon then it were the easiest matter in the world to worship God but there is more required in the duty of God's Worship than thou hast been acquainted with there is a power of Godliness in it And citing Josh 24. 19. he adds q. d. You think it is nothing to serve the Lord alas you cannot serve the Lord for he is a holy God and a jealous God you must have other manner of hearts than yet you have you must understand his Worship in another manner than yet you do until you understand God his Wayes and Worship you cannot serve the Lord i. e. you do not cannot worship him Nor doth the Scripture 1 Thess 2. 13. prove his Assertion but rather the contrary The words are For this cause thank we God without
than all is and shall be for your good 2. He speaks to the particular Church of Corinth of which neither Paul nor Apollos nor Gephas were Pastors or Teachers 3. He is condemning them upon the account of their crying up and preferring one before another upon the supposition of the excellency of gifts some thought they saw in one others in the other which caused them to side and tumultuate the one against the other To allay which amongst other things he tells them All is theirs whether Paul c. i. e. the gifts of the one and the other were for their use â—nd emolument as the Lord was pleased in his providence to cast them amongst them 4. He speaks of extraordinary unlimited Officers tâ—at were to continue but for a season and whilst they were fixed and â—etled in no particular Church so that the Corinthians might lay as much claim to them upon that account as any other Therefore National Ministers may be Ministers of Christ is this Animadverter's Logick whâ—ch when I purpose ludicrè sophisticare I may imitate him in What follows viz. That a man may be a Commissioner for approbation of Publick Preachers throughout a Nation as Mr. T. was when that was in fashion and so a National Minister or an Itinerant Preacher and yet be a Minister of Christ is not at all to the purpose 1. If Mr. T. look'd upon himself as such an one when he sate at White-Hall amongst the Tryers I know many of theâ— that then sate there did not And in the sense I speak of National Ministers as explained in the beginning of this Section he could not be one 2dly Some at least of the then Tryers were so far from being National Ministers that to my knowledge they were not Ministers at all but private Gentlemen whom the then Powers thought fit to entrust with the management of that affair Sect. 16. No National Church under the Oeconomy of the Gospel The National Church of England destitute of what Mr. T. makes essential of a true Church Somewhat more essential to a true Church than the truth of Doctrine of Faith the truth of Worship the truth of holy Conversation viz. Segregation and Aggregation proved The Aâ—imadverter's Argument retorted upon himself Though every defect of Order doth not nullifie a Church yet the defect of that Order that is of the essence of a true Church doth Of the Disorders of the Church of Corinth Their impertinent Allegation by the Animadverter of Synods the learned Whitaker's judgment of them and General Councils These no proof for National Churches Of many particular Congregations under one Presbyterial Government These may be yet no National Church The Church of Jerusalem but one particular Congregation meeting together in the same place for celebration of Ordinances How this Church was the pattern of all other Churches Mr. T. his Cavils refuted THe next attempt of Mr. T. in this Section is to prove a National Church so denominated from their subjection to some Canon-Rulers Ecclesiastical which is the National Church we are enquiring after or conveening by Deputies in some National Synod though not of Divine Institution is a true Church This seems at first blush to be a difficult task to assert a Church not of Divine Institution to be a Church of God for so 't is if a true Church his Temple Tabernacle in which he walks and dwells is to me such a Paradox as requires a strong brain and hard forehead to make good But Aquila non capit muscas nothing but what others despair of ever accomplishing is thought by daring spirits worthy the attempting We attend his proofs Thus he argues They may be a true Church who have all things essential to a Church and nothing destructive of its being such But a National Church may have all things essential to a Church c. Therefore Answ Very good We deny his minor Proposition that a National Church may have all things essential to a Church c. What saith he for the proof of it He tells us that a National Church may have the truth of Doctrine of Faith the truth of Worship the truth of holy Conversation besides which there is nothing essential to a true Church Answ But this is gratis dictum and without proof 1. That Mr. T. can give us an account of any National Church under the Oeconomy of the Gospel concerning which it may be affirmed that the truth of the Doctrine of Faith the truth of Worship the truth of holy Conversation did appertain to it i. e. if I do not much mistake him it hath been sound in Doctrinals the true Worship of Christ hath been managed and carried on in it and the particular members thereof i. e. the multitude of the Inhabitants of the Nation holy and righteous will not hastily be believed by such as have thought themselves concerned to look into these matters As for the Church of England we suppose he will not have the confidence to assert that it may be truly affirmed of it that the members thereof are so qualified The frequent staggering and shameful spewings through excess that we daily behold in no small number even of the Captains and chief of this Herd evince the contrary Of the soundness of their Doctrine we give an account Chap. 11. and of the truth of their Worship Chap. 8. But 2dly The Animadverter full well knew that his Antagonists look not not upon the particulars instanced in to be the Essentials of a Church We Country-folk are not wont to say that when the materials of an House are fitted and brought together the House is built there must be an orderly forming and placing of each piece in the building according to the Scheme or Platform thereof before this can be affirmed of it And therefore hic pes figendus he should have manifested the truth of his dictate that besides these there is nothing essential to a true Church We are apt to think that two things over and above whâ—t is instanc'd in by him are so essential to a true Church that without them it is not such 1. Segregation or separation from the wicked carnal formal hypocritical world and the worship thereof of which chap. 4. of the S. T. and in our Epistle to the Reader prefixt to this Treatise 2. Aggregation or a solemn gathering together by free and mutual consent into particular Congregations in the fear of the great God gâ—ving up our selves to him and one another according to his will to â—alk together in the fellowship of the Gospel in obedience to all the Institutions and Appointments of our dear Lord. 1. That thus it should be in Gospel-dayes the Prophets of old bear their Testimony Jer. 50. 5. Come let us †Heb. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which points forth not a casual aggregation not a forc'd conjunction but a free and voluntary giving up themselves to the Lord and to one another 'T is used of such a conjunction
it is Is not the Discipline of their Church from the Canon Law with what forehead can he deny it Whence is the Hierarchy Ecclesiastical decrees Episcopal jurisdiction Procurations Dispensations Pluralities Non-residencies Popish-retained-Ceremonies their Excommunications by a Commissary Ordinations Absolutions Degradations Visitations Offerings Courts Silencing of Godly Preachers disquieting the Lords people for Non-conformity if not from the Cannon-Law These things are notoriously known to be from them So that Mr. T. grants the present Ministers may lawfully be separated from But this might be a slip of his pen before he was aware That it is our duty to separate from persons acting from an Antichristian Power Office or Calling we prove 2ly 'T is unlawful to attend upon the Teachings of Antichrist therefore upon the teachings of such as act by vertue of a power derived from him To this Mr. T. replyes If by teachings of Antichrist be meant the teachings of the present Doctrine of the Church of Rome and the power derived from him be meant the English Bishops Ordination it is impudency to say they derived their power from Rome Answ 1. We are not yet speaking of the Ministers of England to separate from those that act from an Antichristian power be they Ministers of Germany Holland if they so act in their Ministry they are to be seperated from and that because we may not attend upon Antichrist in his Teachings or Ministration doth Mr. T. deny tâ—is He saith indeed if they preach truth we may attend upon their Ministry though they so act Answ But this hath been often said without the least proof and as frequently replyed to and its inconsutilousness in its applâ—cation to the present Ministers who preach Popish Errours and are interdicted the preaching all truth manifested 'T is an assertion most derogatory to the Dignity and Authority of our Lord and King and not to be born by his Loyal Subjects Hath not he Servants enough of his own to do his work to preach his Gospel but he must be beholding to the greatest enemies he hath in the world to send forth Servants into his Vineyard 2dly The present Ministers of England deny their power from the Papacy or they do not if they do not it had been my mistake not impudency to say they did If they do as most certain it is they do and they themselves acknowledge it and plead it the Impudency is rather in Mr. T. to deny it I add in S. T. 3dly Christ calls his to separate from every thing of Antichrist Rev. 18. 4. 14. 9 10 11. Therefore from his Ministry or such as act by vertue of an Antichristian power To which our Animadverter replies 1 Rev. 18. 4. may be understood of a local departure from Babylon when her judgment of destruction from the Kings of the Earth draws nigh Answ 1. And who can hinder Mr. T. from making conjectures his it may be is no proof that it is However the ground of the Lord 's calling them out of Rome should it be granted him that by Babylon were meant the City of Rome is plainly intimated to be lest they should partake of their sins Not their dwelling in Rome but their complying with the Antichristian Ministry Worship thereof their abominable Rites and Ceremonies is that which is loathsom to the Lord. 2dly 'T is true God calls not his People to depart from every doctrine the Pope teacheth there is some truth remaining amongst them which is to be cleaved to because truth much less a rejection of the Bible These are but vain words empty flourishes this Animadverter knows full well that these things are not affirmed by those with whom he hath to do 3dly To a departure from her by forsaking Communion with her in Worship and leaving subjection to her Government he grants this Scripture may be extended which is all we need contend for The Worship of Rome and England are much the same as we prove The Church-government in use amongst us by Arch-Bishops Bishops issues from the same sourse and spring as is known Therefore a separation from the Worship and Ministry of England lawful by the Animadverter's confession 4thly When God commands to come out of her he must be interpreted to come out of every thing of her viz. that which is truly hers whatever hath not the stamp and authority of God upon it for the reason why the Lord would have his forsake any thing of hers is because it is hers and hath not his own Image and Superscription 'T is ridiculous to imagine that God should command a separation from her Worship and Government and not from her Ministry when this is a main part of her 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or Church-Government He adds 2dly By the Beast and his Image Rev. 14. 9 10 11. is meant some Empire or State which promotes Idolatry the Roman Papacy the worshipping of which is undoubtedly the acknowledging of its power and subjection to their Idolatrous Decrees and Edicts The receiving his mark is a profession of our being the servants of the Pope to subject to his authority and after the citation of Mr. Brightman and Mr. Mede speaking to this purpose he saith which doth evince that the worship of the Beast and his Image is not retaining every usage of the Papists though superstitious and corrupt but acknowledging the universal Monarchy of the Popes adoring Images the Host c. Answ 1. But what doth evince that this is all that is intended by worshipping the Image of the Beast Mr. T. would bear his Reader in hand as if he had produced somewhat for the confirmation of his Assertion when he hath not said the least word tending thereunto The very truth is 2ly The Beast mentioned Rev. 14. 9 10. is the same with the Beast mentioned Rev. 13. 11. or the false Prophet Rev. 19. 21. or Antichrist consider'd in his Ecclesiastical State composed of head the Popes and members the rest of the Antichristian Clergy whether at Rome or elsewhere for as the learned Mede saith the Pope alone maketh not up the Beast except the Clergy be joâ—n'd with him since the Beast doth signifie a company of men composed of a certain order of members like as the Beast hath not one man alone the Image of the Beast cannot be a dumb Image 't is expresly said to be a speaking one viz. the Ecclesiastical policy that in its Cannon-Laws upon which both that of Rome and England is founded breatheth forth nothing but Excommunication against such as shall disobey them upon which they are deliver'd over to the Secular Power here with us though not to be burned yet to perpetual Imprisonment The worshipping the Beast and receiving the mark is subjection to an Antichristian Ministry and Church-polity from which it is the duty of the people of God to separate and if we prove not the Ministers of England to be so we acknowledg this Argument to be null and that notwithstanding any thing in it
the God that made the Heaven and the Earth Mr. T. replies 1. To worship the Creatures terminatively is most gross-Idolatry the Israelites Exod. 32. and many Heathen Idolaters did not do so 2. 'T is not true that few or none worship the Creature terminatively for the most of the Idolaters of old worshipped the Host of Heaven and at this day the Devil himself is worshipped in the East and West Indies Answ 1. That most of the Idolaters of old worshipped the Host of Heaven is granted that they worshipped these or any other Idols terminatively our Dictator attempts not the proof of What is said of Baal 1 Kings 16. 31. or Molech Psal 106. 37 38. who is also call'd Moloch Amos 5. 26. and Milcom 1 Kings 11. 33. and Malcham Zeph. 1. 5. i. e. the Sun proves not that they so worshipped the Sun in commemoration of which these Images were erected 'T is true Psal 106. 37 38. 't is said They sacrificed to Devils but that therefore they worshipped the Devil as the utmost terminus cannot be conceived 'T is call'd Devil-worship because it was not from God but of the invention and instigation of the Devil as all the false worship in the World is Of their worshipping Molech or Milcham 't is expresly said that they worshipped the Lord too when they worshipped him Zeph. 1. 5. Heb. to the Lord and in Malcam as the Papists say they direct their worship to God only in or through their Images which fully answers what can be pleaded from Acts 7. 41 42 43. 2. The most learned of the Heathens do affirm That their Images were dedicated to the true God whom in them they worshipped reputing the Images themselves but Stooks and Stones and that in them they worshipped but one God Seneca saith By Jupiter standing in the Capitol with Lightning in his hand they understand the Preserver and Governor of all things the Maker of all the World Qu. natur l. 2. c. 45. Who it was that sang 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Mr. T. is not ignorant See Arnobius l. 6. contra Gent. We premise 2dly That there is a somewhat more refiâ—ed Idolatry and to this Head we refer 1. The ascription of a God-head to any creature as to Herod Acts 12. 22. 2. The ascription of the properties of the God-head to any Creature 3. The worshipping God in any other way than what he hath prescribed which is the Idolatry forbidden in the second Commandment 4. The Oblation of Worship and Service to God that hath been offered up to Idols for which there is no prescription in the Scriptures 'T is this second sort of Idolatry we say the present Ministers of England are guilty of Mr. T. answers 1. The definition of Idolatry by Dr. Rainold â—ath hitherto been received by all Protestants that he knows of that it is exhibiting Divine Worship to a Creature proved from Rom. 1. 15. Answ 1. That this is Idolatry I grant that nothing else is so will not be proved Protestants affirm otherwise as Calvin Perkins Ames Paraeus Though 2. the very truth is when we submit to a Worship of humane devising we exhibit Divine Worship to a Creature viz. the deviser imposer thereof we worship him 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 besides the Creator as Hilarius Beza expound the Phrase Rom. 1. 25. And Paraeus Explicat cate p. 3. Q. 9. p. 528. saith What is required in the second Commandment Answ That we express not God by any Figure and that we worship him not in any other way or manner than he hath in his Word commanded us to worship him 1 Sam. 15. 23. Deut. 12. 30. Mat. 15. 9. Idolatry is contrary to this Commandment which is a false and superstitious worship of the Deity of which there are two chief kinds one more gross ☜ as when a false Deity is worshipped this is forbidden in the first Commandment another more refined when the true God is pretended to be worshipped but there is a mistake in the kind of Worship i. e. when Worship is pretended to be performed to God in some work which he hath not required this is condemned in this second Commandment p. 529. Those who sin against the second Commandment sin also against the first because they who worship God otherwise than he will be worshipped they feign to themselves another God and indeed worship not God but the figment of their own brain To feign another Worship of God is to feign another will of God and by consequence another God Mr. Perkins Vol. 1. p. 659. saith When God is worshipped otherwise and by other means than he hath revealed in his Word that is Idolatry Idolatrous Worships are all they which are appointed without the Command of God Mel. Tom. 2. p. 107. We shall onely add what we find mentioned by the Learned Peter Martyr in his Comment on the first of Sam. ch 7. p. 40. Men are wont sometimes to feign to themselves Commentitious gods as Jupiter Neptune Mercury Sometimes to worship the one and true God but with a Worship that is forbidden or strange i. e. not commanded as if any one should slay his Son or do what King Ahaz did who constituted a Damascene Altar in the Temple of God To do thus is nothing else than to worship an Idol For men do hereby feign a God who will so be worshipped who is in truth no God Therefore August Quest 29. in lib. Jos in which place the same thing is proposed to the people by Joshua that is here by Samuel He that feigns to himself God to be other than he is doth carry in his heart another God Wherefore not only Jupiter and the vain Deities but also those Idols and Phantasms are altogether to be cast out of our mind This will be done if we constitute to our selves God to be such as he is described to us to be in the Holy Scriptures Tertul. in lib. de idololat saith Not only the Cross and made Worship of Images is Idolatrous for the Antients of old had Temples †The Romans for above 170. years worshipped the Godds without Images say Vario Plutarch without Images who were nevertheless Idolaters It matters not whether thou make to thy self a God of Plaiscering or Marble or of a Trunk of a Tree I add saith P. Martyr or of thy own Phantasm an Idol is so call'd of 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which is a Form an Idol therefore is a little Form Samuel therefore exhorts chap. 7. 3. that they cast away commentitious Godds and vain Worship and evil Opinions of God out of their minds What this Animadverter mentions out of Tertullian in his Book of Idolatry c. 15. makes for us If Idolatry be when any thing that is not God is extolled beyond the measure of humane honour then when the Prescribers of Divine Service are so extolled as they are when the Service prescribed by them is subjected to it being the peculiar honour
and Bethel was no necessary part of Gods Worship for the same reason but it was of Jeroboams when once established and commanded by him The case is the same here Liturgical Forms are no necessary parts of Gods Worship because no where commanded by him but are of the Lyturgists Worship because established by Law And this is all we affirm they are the necessary parts of that Worship which is managed and carrâ—ed on by them which they suppose is the Worship of God What he adds from the Preface of the Common-Prayer-Book That particular Forms of Divine Worship and the Rites and Ceremonies appointed to be used therein are things in their own nature indifferent and alteraâ—le makes not void what we have asserted it rather establisheth it For 1st The same may be said of many acknowledged essential parts of Divine Worship Circumcision Sacrificing yet alterable and abolished If it be said that none could abolish them but God the answer is easie nor can any abolish the Lyturgical Forms and Rites but only those who have such Authority as that by which they were imposed who are to the Lyturgists as Vice-Godds We add in S. T. 2dly That the present Ministers of England make the Liturgy or Common-Prayer-Book-Worship a principal part yea the whole Worship of God Whence we conclude That the present Ministers of England worshipping God in the way thereof which he hath not prescribed they are Idolaters To which Mr. T. 1. He doth not think its true that any Minister of England would affirm the Common-Prayer-Book to be an essential part of Worship Answ But what Mr. T. thinks in this matter is not considerable the truth of the assertion is notoriously known and he may as well tell us they disown the Cross in Baptism which they are daily in the practice of He adds 2dly If it were they do not think it an essential part of Worship by virtue of Gods Command but they conceive they ought to obey their Governours Laws not judging others who use it not Answ 1. This is not at all ad Rhombum Jeroboam's Priests and those Apostatick Worshippers that struck in with him did not account sacrificing at Dan and Bethel an essential part of Worship by virtue of Gods Command but the Kings 2. To obey their Governours in such things as these Mr. T. saith is bottomed upon Christ's Command and if so whilst they account it their duty from divine Precept to subject to their Governours imposing it upon them as an essential part of Worship they do little less than account it to be so by virtue of Divine Command 3. I wonder with what forehead Mr. T. could say They judge not others who use it not when their Pulpits ring with invectives against them and they will not suffer them to preach but Excommunicate and Imprison them for no other reason but because they will not conform to it Sect. 5. A second Argument proving the Ministers of England Idolaters They act in holy things by virtue of an Office-power received from Idolaters and offer up to him a Worship abused to Idolatry with the Modes and Rites of Idolaters All will-worship Idolatry The testimony of the Antients c. The Romish Church Idolaters their worship Idolatry The present Ministers act by virtue of an Office-power received from that Idolatrous Church Com. -Prayer-Book-Worship Idolatry The Rites used by the Ministers Idotrous Rites in themselves indifferent when once abused to Idolatry not to be used proved The Testimony of the Learned touching this matter A Second Argument proving the Ministers of England Idolaters is in S. T. thus formed Those who act in the holy things of God by virtue of an Office-power received from-Idolaters and offer up to him a Worship neerly of Humane composition once abused to Idolatry with the Modes and Rites of Idolaters are themselves such But the present Ministers of England do so Therefore In the Major two things are asserted 1st That such as act in the holy things of God by virtue of an Office-power received from Idolaters are themselves such at least in respect of that their Office-power Jeroboams Priests being Idolaters those that acted by virtue of an Office-power from them must needs be so as those who act by virtue of authority to them committed from Rebels in matters civil are equally guilty of Rebellion as those from whom they derive that their authority This Mr. T. denies But 1. for the ground of his denial noâ—hing is offered but Dictates built upon this mistake That none can be accounted Idolaters but such as exhibit Divine Worship to the Creature The vanity of which is before evinced 2dly I desire at his leisure to be informed whether there be any truth in that Maxime One cannot give that to another that he hath not himself If the Idolater communicate an Office-power to another and he have none himself but that which is Idolatrous he doth most assuredly communicate an Idolatrous Office-power to him That persons acting from authority received from Rebels if under hand they design the restitution of their Prince are not to be accounted Rebels as he saith is an assertion 1. That will scarce pass for truth amongst the learned of the Law 2. Impertinent For 1. The present Ministers act from such an authority for the support of Antichristian Courts oppressive diabollical Usurpations and Prerogatives for the keeping out their lawful Prince Christ Jesus 2. They justify their acting from the authority aforesaid refuse to act from any other contemn and despise it 2dly That worshipping God by a Form meerly of humane composition with the Rites and Modes of Idolaters is Idolatry those that so worship him are Idolaters Mr. T. replies That this makes not Idolaters unless there be Idolatry in the Form and the Rites be Idolatrous in the Use Answ 1. This he speaks without proof 2. Upon this mistake that there is no other Idolatry but the giving of Divine honour to the Creature 3. All will-worship is Idolatry so saith August de Consens Evang. Lib. 1. Cap. 18. Vazq de Adorat Lib. 2. Disput 1. Cap. 3. Dr. Bils ag Apol. p. 4. p. 344. and Mr. T. denies not such a worshipping God as that mentioned to be will-worship What he adds That it is not true that they are Idolaters who use that which is of divine appointment to the right use because Idolaters abused it to Idolatry Those may do well to take notice of that are concerned in it For our parts we say no such thing the allegation is impertinent to the matter in hand the Form used in the English Liturgy is not of Divine appointment nor the Rites thereof neither will Mr. T. have the confidence to assert they are That I any where revoke that assertion of mine That few or none worship the Creature terminativè is Mr. T. his mistake 'T is true pag. 65. I say That Bellarmine affirms that the Images themselves terminate the veneration given to them as they are in
abolished not suffered to remain for nourishing Superstition much less imployed in the true Worship of God Answ 1. That the Animadverter can see any such Principle at the bottom of our Argument must be imputed to that wonderful quicksightedness that is predominant sometimes in him we only say that God calls his people out of places of false-worship i. e. not such as have been but such as are at present such which is the utmost of what Mr. T. can compel us to own from any thing we have asserted in this Argument But 2dly Having such good company as the learned Ainsworth Robinson and other Worthies and Witnesses of Christ in their day and being satisfied which is the all in all to us that they have in this matter the Spirit for their Guide and Leader we are contented to advance a step or two farther with them The Proposition but now laid down by Mr. T. we subscribe to and judge its clearly proved by Exod. 20. 4. 5 6. 23. 13. Isa 30. 22. Gen. 35. 2 3 4. Deut. 12. 2 3 30 32. 17. 18 19 20. 2 King 10. 26 27 28. 18. 4. 23. 12 13 14 15. 2 Chr. â—7 6. Acts 17. 23. 19. 26 27. Jude 23. with Lev. 13. 47 51 52. Rev. 17. 16. 18. 11 12. The Scriptures cited by the Separatists of old We are not willing to debate this matter at large That the things mentioned should be abolished they give their Reasons in their Apologie pag. 76. The sum whereof is 1. The retaining of them is a breach of the second Commandment Exod. 20. 4 5 6 with Deut. 12. 2 3. Isa 30. 22. 2. So long as they are continued Antichrist is not fully abolished according to Rev. 17. 16. 18. 11 12 13. 2 Thes 2. 8. with 2 King 10. 26 27 28. 3. The consecrating of any Garments Places or the like peculiarly to the Worship of God now in the time of the Gospel hath no Warrant in the Word 4. The worshipping God in the places and by the things appointed and hallowed of God himself was under the Law a part of honour done to him and pleasing him Deut. 12. 5 6. Lev. 17. 3 4. The destroying them tended to his dishonour Psal 79. 1. 74. 6 7 8. The building and repairing them pertained to the establishing and restoring his true Worship Hag. 1. 4 8. So on the contrary the worshipping God now in the places and by the things dedicated and hallowed by Antichrist is a special part of Popish Devotion such is the building repairing them as the razing them will be to their dishonour and greater confusion The like may be said of the Heathen Places touching which see Deut. 12. 2 3 4. with 2 King 10. 26 27 28. 14. 3 4. 23. 8 13 15 19. 5. Godly Princes are commended for abolishing the Monuments of false Worship 2 Chr. 17. 6. 2 King 18. 4. 23. 12 13 14 15. 6. This being done the People are more easily perswaded to the true worship of God in Spirit and Truth whereas otherwise they are still nourished in Superstition Gen. 35. 2 3 4. 2 King 18. 4. 2 Chr. 11. 34. Acts 17. 23. 19. 26 27. Lev. 13 14 Chap. with Jude 23. 7. The Lord hath promised a blessing to them which do reject and abolish them and threatned a curse to the contrary and so also hath done Isa 30. 22 23. Exod. 20. 5 6 2 Chr. 17. chap. 31. 20 21. with 2 Chr. 21. 13 14. 24. 17 25. 28. chap. We shall only add 8. That the soul of the Lord did detest and abhor whatever was used to Idolatry whether Vestments or Places under the Law is evident from the fore-cited Scriptures that he is as jealous a God now as ever the Animadverter will not deny nor can he That the Idolatrous High Places dedicated to the Popish Mahuzzims or Saints-Idol Godds as the most of the High-places of England the Image of the Saint to which each was dedicated being set up in the Rood-Loft betwixt the Church and Chancel where in many places the Rood-Loft yet remains are as Idolatrous and upon that bottom as much abhorred by the Lord as those of old were and therefore are to be separated from destroyed as those of old 9. They are some of the things of Antichrist they were consecrated by him dedicated as is known to his He-Saints and She-Saints and therefore must perish with him 10. The People generaly Idolize them bow down when they come in to them honour them with Cap and Knee think there is holiness in them and that God is more acceptably served there than else where which if nothing else could be said they being detestable Idols are therefore to be abhorred by the Saints We shall only add the sayings of two Learned men of late dayes who give their judgment touching this matter The one is Mr. Mede who expounds the 39th vers of Dan. 11. as a part of the description of Antichrist He renders the Text thus He shall make the holds of Mahuzzims with all or joyntly to the forreign Godd And paraphraseth tâ—us And though the Christian God whom he shall profess to acknowledge and worship can endure no compeers yet he shall consecrate his Temples Ecclesiastical holds joyntly to the Christian God and his Mahuzzims to God and the Saints The other is precious Cotton on the Vials who pag. 14. on Vial. 7th saith thus When the zeal of God lifts up the hearts of people then they will not endure a consecrated place in all the World where they come and when this Vial is poured out the earth shall be full of the knowledge of God and then all the Chappels of ease and Churches of state and Temples of glory ☞ wherewith the world hath been deluded shall be thrown down they will not leave them a stone upon a stone that shall not be thrown down Our Animadverter cites Mr. Robinson touching this matter who pag. 354 356 in his Justification of the Separation from the Church of England there pleads against going to worship in these Ecclesiastical holds and tells us 1. That his Arguments are fully answered by Mr. Paget Answ How much to the purpose Mr. Pagets Answers are to the Arguments produced others will judge 2. Mr. Robinsons Texts he tells us are impertinent The unclean thing 2 Cor. 6. 17. not to be touched is the Idol it self not the place abused to Idolatry which is touched when adored or worshipped Answ 1. This is more than the Animadverter proves noâ— iâ— it likely that any in the Church of Corinth did or were about to worship the Idol that he should caution and charge them not to do so Being converted from dumb-Idols to the living God 't is not to be thought they should return to worship them again that they were guilty of so doing is not in the least intimated as is their going to the Idols-Temple and sitting at meat there which
is a contract of the word Worthy-ship and notes singular respect by reason of some worth in the thing worshipped conceived in the heart and expressed by some sign which he gathers from the use of the word Worshipful and your Worship given to Superiours and gives us several distinctions about Worship which as they are trite and obsolete so what the intendment of the Animadverter should be in producing them excepâ— to shew his reading or amuse the Reader with a multiplicity of words and distinctions and thereby render him the more unfit to examine what is offered in the Controversie to consideration I cannot divine As the quibling upon every particular word in a Dispute is much like that which the Apostle condemns 1 Tim. 6. 4. 2 Tim. 2. 14. so I know not of what use it can be to the Reader nor that it serves to any thing save to render the Controversie more arduous and difficult when the meaning of each other is obvious to any considerate understanding without it There is as I know of no more than a twofold Worship of God 1. That which is natural original or moral which I call natural because in the principle of it it was concreated with man and moral because it is invariable and alway the same and is comprehensive of our saith affiance and trust in God our subjection to him as the God sovereign Lord and King and Lawgiver to all That Worship which the Law of Nature or the Law written and engraven upon the hearts of the children of men teacheth is that I call the natural Worship of God Four things this Law teacheth with respect to Worship First that God is to be worshipped Whether there were ever any so guilty of Atheism as to deny a Deity is not much to our present purpose to enquire Cicero saith Nullam unquam fuisse Gentem c. That there was never any Nation so barbarous which knew not that there was a God And to the same purpose Seneca Epist 3. Veritatis Argumentum est omnibus aliquid videri tanquam Deos esse quod omnibus de Diis opinio in sita sit neque ulla gens usquam est adeo extra Leges moresque posita ut non aliquos Deos credat Nor is there any thing Psal 14. 1. opposit thereunto which the Chaldee Paraphrast renders No power or dominion of God in the Earth But this as was said is not of our present disquisition Upon the acknowledgment of a Deity the principles of Nature dictate that he is to be worshipped 2dly That as God is to be worshipped so is he not only severally each one by himself but by persons in particular bodies and societies to be worshipped and served is another dictate of Nature The erection of Temples for Worship with the forms of publick Service and Priests for the managery thereof to be found amongst the most ignorant and dark corners of the World both before and since the Gospel-dispensation sufficiently evince the truth of the suggestion Yea 3dly That God is to be worshipped according to that Revelation â—â— Himself he is pleased to exhibit to the children of men not according to their wills one or other of them Hence when any had a design of imposing Laws upon others of their own devising they presented them unto them not as their own inventions upon which foot of account they knew they would meet with little respect from persons attending the dictates of Nature but as received from the Godds Thus did Zaleucus Lycurgus Minos Numa the most famous Lawgivers amongst the Gentiles Famous is the saying of Socrates in Plato to this purpose That every God will be worshipped 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in that way which pleaseth best his own mind Contrary to which as if those 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 enstamped upon the hearts of men as men were totally obliterated Some assume the confidence to plead that the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or manner of Worship is not from divine direction and prescription but only the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or Worship it self 4thly That the Voice of God when he should be pleased or in what manner soever to speak to them was to be hearkned and attended to the same Law of Nature did indoctâ—inate them in I say the Voice of God for however unto some of them there were Godds many and Lords many yet the wisest and most learned amongst them did acknowledge but one chief Deity or God at whose beck and ordinance all the rest were whom therefore they contemn'd as things of naught Hence Plautus in Casina Act. 2. Unus Tibi hic dum sit propitius Jupiter Tuistos minutos cave Deos flocci feceris Hence Satan easily abused them to an attendance upon his dictates as the Oracles of God though never so cruel and sanguinary That it was usual amongst the Gentile Nations to offer up Men and Women in Sacrifice to the Godds is known Tacitus tells us of the Germans that they were wont to sacrifice Men to Mercury Tacit. de morib German Tertullian assures us that the people of Africa sacrificed their Children to Saturn and that openly even to the time of the Proconfulship of Tiberius Apol. c. 8. And when the Carthaginians were overcome by Agathocles the Sicilian Tyrant judging the Godds to be greatly angry with them they at once sacrificed two hundred Noblemens Sons to Saturn as Pescenninus Festus witness The same Abomination was rife among the Romans which seems to have continued amongst them to the time of the Consulship of Cornelius Lentulus and Publius Licinius Crassus as witnesseth Pliny Natur. Hist l. 3. c. 1. the French as Cicero Orat per Fontei the Britans as Tacitus Annal. 14. of whom saith Horace Visam Britannos hospitibus feros were led captive to the like ferosity to their own flesh That they received this Abomination from their diabolical Oracles which they mistook for the voice of the Gods to them is more than probable That the destruction of Menecaeus and Iphigenia is to be fixed here is known Nor had the maner of the Lacedemonians wounding themselves in the worship of their Gods any other spring as witnesseth Apollonius apud Philostrat l. 6. c. 10. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 c. i. e. in the honour of Diana it was their custom to wound themselves according as men say to the Commandment of the Oracles And Pausanias Baeotic 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The Oracle of Delphos enjoyns that a beauteous Child be offered in Sacrifice to Bacchus This was the state and condition of the Gentile World whilst God was known only in Jewry the times of which ignorance he winked at and suffered each Nation to do what was good in their own eyes under the regiment of Satan perpetrating the most horrible abomination being fearfully cruel to their own flesh The review of which may fill us with pity and bowels towards the poor dark corners of the World wâ—ere this gross darkness is still residing and
be viz. when Antichrist according to Paul whose Epistles Peter conversed with 2 Pet. 3. 15. should be revealed In respect of each of which the title is applicable to the present Ministers 1. They assume the title of Teachers falsly as is proved chap. 3. of S. T. 2dly They teach false things as we demonstrate ch 5. 10. of S. T. 3dly That they are teachers of a great part of the Lie of Antichrist their Discipline Worship and Doctrine thereabout being for the most part hammered at his forge cannot be denied Secondly Of them it is said 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that they shall bring in Heresies of destruction The word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 signifies to bring in besides i. e. besides mens expectations or besides the Truth taught by Godly Teachers by themselves in part also to countenance their Errors so the Assembly They shall do it fraudulently under the vizard of Truth so Aretius They shall do it privily and subtilly pretending a shew of Piety and name of the Church so Gerh. Heresies of cestruction are no other but the Heresies or false Doctrines of Antichriâ—â— such as destroy and lay waste the Church the Truths and Institutions of Christ being alien and contrary to what is of his prescription and are supported by force and violence against them that do oppose them For which at the last swift destruction is brought upon themselves Upon which account Antichrist as is thought is called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Rev. 9. 11. i. e. a Destroyer and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 2 Thess 2. 3. the son of destruction or perdition That the Ministers and Church of England do thus is too evident to admit of a denial They assume to themselves the name of the Church cry out against all others that separate from them as Hereticks and Schismaticks preach some truth with which they slily mix their Errours that lay waste the Institutions of Christ and persecute all these imprison waste ruine destroy them or at the least attempt it to the utmost of their power that stand up against their Innovations and Church-destroying Doctrines The greatest difficulty may seem to be in those words that are spoken of them Thirdly That they shall deny the Lord that bought them the words are 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 They denied not that he bought them if it be meant of Christ but denied him as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or Lord cast off in part at least his Authority as sole King and Lord of his Church And this too not openly and in words which is against the express letter of the Text they shall privily or slily bring it in but in practice doing that which doth invelop or wrap up in it a denial of the Despotical or Kingly Office and Authority of Christ And this saith Grotius the word signifies De tali desertione quae non verbo sed reipsa fiat figurate usurpatur Hugo Grot. Whence Dux Gregis the Captain of this Herd is called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that lawless-one that despiseth sets light by the Laws and Authority of Christ That hereof the present Ministers are guilty we prove chap. 4. 5. of S. T. So that not one of the Scriptures produced but may justly be applyed to them And the Conforming-Ministers are rightly charged as the false Prophets of the Jews are in the places produced in S. T. This Mr. T. denies but if he would have made good his denial in my conceit he should have produced the particular places mentioned and manifested that they could not properly be applyed to them But he knew an easier way Mentiris Bellarmine mentiris a few keen words against his Antagonist would cost him little 'T is true he tells us that the present Ministers teach the Fundamentals of Christian Religion but what he means by the Fundamentals of Religion he tells us not Doth he intend that they own one God c. so did the false-Prophets The great Fundamental of true Religion is That God is to be worshipped according to the Revelation he hath made of himself in the Scriptures of Truth that all we do in his Worship and Service that relates to it as such be bottom'd on divine prescript This fundamental they deny introducing the Ordinances and Inventions of man and making these a part of Worship A departure from which is the ground of all the Apostacy that ever was in the World 4thly This Animadverter's plea for the Church and Ministers of England is not much better than what was or might have been made use of by Jeroboam himself for his Ministry Church and Worship Touching which precious Ainsworth in his Arrow against Idolatry ch 3. introduceth Jeroboam speaking after this rate I see my course O men of Israel to be much suspected if not wholly misliked of many some thinking my Ceremonies to savour too rankly of Heathen Superstition some charging me plainly with flat Apostasie and forsaking of God But how far off I am from all such Impiety I hope to manifest to all indifferent persons chiefly sith that I have neither spoken nor done against any Article of the Ancient Faith not changed any Fundamental Ordinance of Religion The very plea of Mr. T. for the present Ministers given us by Moses but worship with reverence the God of my Fathers and love him as I am taught with all my heart and with all my soul cleaving unto him alone who is my life and the length of my dayes Other Godds of the Nations I utterly abhor with all their impure rites and services The alteration I have made is in matters of circumstance things whereof there is no express certain or permanent Law given us of God and which are variable as time place or person give occasion and such as good Kings have changed before me and have been blameless This the sum upon which he dilates excellently and Sect. 12. introduceth him asserting his Worship for substance to be the same that God commanded by Moses We worship saith he the same God we offer the Sacrifices of Beeves and Sheep burn Incense pay First-fruits and Tythes and observe all the Ordinances that our Fathers have kept since the World began We hold the main Article of our Messiah to come and of Redemption from our sins by him Thus plausibly with much more mentioned by that worthy person before-named in his Arrow against Idolatry a Tract to say no more worthy the perusal Might Jeroboam plead for himself and practice as Josephus tells us he did B. 8. Jews Antiq. â—ap 3. yet are his wayes and worship abominable and not to be joyned with And yet Mr. T. hath not hitherto said more for the justification of the Ministers and Worship of England Parvas habet spes Troja si tales habet If no more can be pleaded in defence of the present Ministers and Worship than Jeroboam could plead for his Innovations and horrible Apostacy from God their case is deplorable indeed Sect. 11. In the height of the
Israelitish Apostasie God left not himself without a Witness reserved to himself a Remnant Of the self-invented Worship of that day Whether there be no such Worship to be found in England The duty of Saints with relation thereunto Of Mr. T. his rash judging THat God left not himself without a Witness in the height of the Israelitish Apostasie but raised up one or other to testifie for him against their self-invented Worship that he reserv'd unto himself a Remnant that clave to him and his pure Appointments is a seventh Assertion in the S. T. which Mr. T. also grants to be true Sect. 12. but yet hath somewhat to say hereunto 1. That self-invented Worship was bowing the knee to Baal 1 King 19. 18. Rom. 11. 3 4. Serving Idols 2 King 17. 12. Burning Incense to Vanity Jer. 18. 15. Going after other Godds to serve them and worship them Jer. 25. 6. 35. 15. Answ Very good Doth the Author of the S. T. deny that when the Apostacy of the Jews arose to its height it came indeed to this the beginning hereof being laid in the departure from that Principle That God is to be served according to the revelation he makes of himself not according to mans inventions his citation of the places now again mentioned by Mr. T. evinceth the contrary 2. O but there is no such self-invented Worship found in England Answ That there is not in every particular the same is granted I know not that they set up the image of Baal to worship it what they do in the chambers of their imagery God only sees openly they serve not the same Idols nor burn Incense to Vanity c. but that there is no such self-invented Worship to be found in England is gratis dictum and without proof All self-invented Worship being indeed such like it in its principle a departure from the fore-mentioned fundamental-principle of Religion being the source and spring from whence it issues forth A bowing the knee to Baal or yielding obedience to other Lords viz. the Instituter and Commander of that Worship which is invented a serving Idols in the setting up Man in the room of the Spirit of God and the image or form created and made by him in the place of Divine Appointments But 2dly 'T is to me a fond conceit to imagine that upon a supposition that the Ministers and Church of England are not guilty of such gross Abominations as the places mentioned intimate the Jews to be guilty of against whom the Prophets bear their Testimony Therefore none must bear testimony against present Abominations nor can they be justified in their so doing from these Texts Whereas had they been guilty of less wickedness than they were it had been the duty of the Servants of the Lord to have testified against them The doing of what was not commanded by the Lord as well as what was expresly forbidden is part of their Testimony 2 King 16. 11. 17. 11 13. We pretend not to be extraordinarily raised up and spirited to witness against present Abominations conceiving it not at all needful in the present undertaking Every Christian that hath tenderness to the honour and glory of God according to the capacity they are in being obliged to testifie for him against the Innovations and Will-worship of the day Whether that speech of Christ to James and John be most aptly applyed to this Animadverter and that generation he is become the Advocate of and who they are that call for fire to come down from Heaven upon those that will not imbrace their doctrines others will judge We have through grace otherwise learned Christ Whether it be bitter or holy Zeal for God that moves us by whom whether our language will be judged just reproof or unjust reviling will one day be declared I am sure Mr. T. hath adventured upon what doth not at all appertain to him in judging before the time And in this can we rejoyce that under all his Censures we have the Testimony of the Spirit of the Highest That in godly simplicity and from a principle of holy Zeal â—o God we are carried forth in this matter Though we dare not acquir our selves of fleshly mixtures which we too much discern to our abasement and grief in all our undertakings But what hath this Animadv to accuse us of 'T were as easie to have manifested if it had been so and we conceive he would not have spared us could he have done it wherein the bitterness of our Zeal did appear as to have said it was bitter to have shewed wherein our reproof was unjust as to intimate it to be so These are but words and I hope not spoken from a spirit of gall and bitterness towards us though perhaps some other will be apt to think they are so Sect. 12. The People of God of old not to hearken to the teachings of such as were not sent by the Lord. The Command of God touching their cutting-off Saints forbidden to hear them The false Prophets preached much truth though not the whole truth So doth Antichrist They were not called false Prophets meerly for their preaching falshood but because they ran before they were sent The present Ministers preach falshoods c. In what sense to be cut off Separation from the enjoyned false worship of old commanded 'T is a breach upon the Sovereign Authority of God called by the names of Adultery Whoredom Idolatry c. Upon what account so called Jer. 9. 2. Hos 3. 3. 1. 2. Rev. 14. 8. explained worshipping God at Jerusalem Non-separation from his Worship there no argument of the unlawfulness of Separation from the Church of England IN his 13th Section Mr. T. takes notice of what I offer in the eighth place touching the duty of the Saints of old viz. That they were 1. Not to hearken to the teachings of such as were not sent of the Lord though they pretended never so much to be sent by him This we prove 1. from the Command of God touching these false Prophets viz. to cut them off Deut. 18. 20. 2dly They are expresly forbidden to hear them Deut. 13. 3. Jer. 27. 6 16. To which the Animadverter replies 1. None are said in the Texts mentioned nor in any other he meets with not to be sent by the Lord who delivered the Truth of God but such as delivered falshoods inciting to Idolatry or contradictory to the message to the true Prophets Answ 1. If by the Truth of God he means the whole Truth of God 't is granted That never any false Prophet delivered the whole Truth of God nor do the Ministers of England as we prove S. T. p. 91. If he mean that all they delivered was false and erroneous there is nothing more false can be invented or spoken They knew and so did Satan that set them on work that so to have done had been immediatly to have miscarried in the design they were advancing Antichrist in his Ecclesiastical
state is called the false Prophet Rev. 19. 21. his Doctrine and Worship a Lie 2 Thess 2. 11. yet many Truths are imbraced and preached by him 2. If Mr. T. thinks they were called false Prophets meerly upon the account of their preaching Falshoods and such as incite to Idolatry and contradict the message of the true Prophets he is mistaken They are called false Prophets upon the account of their running before they were sent Ezek. 13. 6. Jer. 14. 14 15. which they had been though they had delivered nothing but Truth coming in his Name when he never sent them And as such were to be put to death So saith Maimonides in his Treatise of Idolatry Chap. 5. Sect. 7 8. one who understood these things as well as Mr. T. The false Prophet is to be strangled to death although he prophesie in the Name of the Lord and neither addeth nor diminisheth Deut. 18. 20. Whether he prophesieth that which he hath not heard by Prophetical Vision or whoso hath heard the words of his fellow-Prophet and saith That this word was said unto him and he prophesieth thereby lo he is a false Prophet and is to be strangled to death That they preached falshoods we deny not and such intimated at least some of them but that they were singly upon this foot of account so called this Animadverter will never prove The Hebrews who more perfectly knew these things than we say the contrary as but now was manifested They were false Prophets though they prophesied Truths without adding or diminishing if they pretended God sent them spake to them when he did not 3. The present Ministers as the false Prophets of old preach falshood and such as incite to Idolatry as we prove S. T. chap. 7. and such as are contradictory to the great Prophet Christ as we manifest ch 4 5. of S. T. Therefore not to be heard by the concession of this Animadverter though commanded by Kings and Rulers By which he may guess how fit these things are to my present purpose and how frivolously he speaks when he saith I should have left out these Allegations if I had well bethought my self how unfit they were to my present design but I will not he presumes say that the present Ministers should be cut off Answ If by cutting off he means putting to death I will not indeed say so though it may be Mr. T. when an Assistant for the ejection of scandalous Ministers thought it lawful civilly to slay them the saying of Divine Service being one branch of scandal for which they were to be ejected And the truth is the Author of S. T. thinks they should not open their mouthes as if Messengers and Embassadors for God till he opens them by giving down the holy Unction to them the great qualification of Gospel-Preachers which most of them 't is to be feared want and an heart to relinquish their Antichristian standing that they may go forth in the work of God from Authority received not from his grand Enemy but from himself 2dly As not harkning to the false Prophets was the duty of the Children of the Lord of old so is Separation from the devised Worship of that day in the fore-cited places asserted and proved to be 1. From the greatness of the sin of self-invented Worship which is 1st A breach upon the soveraign Authority of God 2dly Called by the names of Whordom Adultery Idolatry Fornication Psal 73. 27. Isa 57. 3 8. Jer. 9. 2. Ezek. 23. 45. Hos 3. 7. and 7. 3. Lev. 20. 5. Jer. 13. 27. Ezek. 16. 17. and 20. 30. Hos 1. 2. Rev. 14. 8. and 18. 9. 19 20. 3dly Separation here-from is solemnly charged upon them as their duty Hos 4. 15. Amos 5. 5. Prov. 4. 14. and 5. 8. Cant. 4. 8. To which Mr. T. reples 1st That devised Worship which is tearmed Adultery c. is Lev. 20. 5. committing whordom with Molech Psal 73. 27. being far from God c. Ans 1. But Sir the Question is not what that self-invented Worship was that is so call'd but whether it be not so call'd let it be what it will on the account of its being self-invented The Lord had taken that People into Covenant with himself for his Bride Beloved To them he was Ishi a Lord a Husband By him as such they were obliged by virtue of that Covenant into which he had taken them to be solely guided and ruled to observe his Statutes and Judgments to do them not harkning to the voice of any other beside himself Their acting contrary hereunto was a breach of this Covenant which being a Covenant of Betrothment or Conjugal relation the breach of it is therefore called by the names of Adultery Whordom c. which they had been guilty of had they in smaller matters than those instanced in turned aside from God Jer. 3. 19 20. But I said How shall I put thee among the Children and give thee a pleasant Land a goodly Heritage of the Hosts of Nations and I said Thou shalt call me My Father and shalt not turn away from me Surely as a Wife treacherously departeth from her Husband so have you dealt treacherously with me O house of Israel Their turning aside to their own Inventions is the bottom upon which these abominations are so called Psal 106. 39. Thus were they defiled with their own works and went a whoring with their own inventions Jer. 9. 2. They be all adulterers i. e. turned away from God say the Assembly Hos 3. 3. Her not playing the Harlot is expresly said to be her not being for another man which should she be as by subjecting to the Ordinances of men in the Worship of God we are she plays the Harlot And Hos 1. 2. Departing from the Lord or his Institutions and Appointments is called committing great whordom 2dly 'T is true the Worship which is called Fornication Rev. 14. 8. and 18. 9. is such as Babylon made all Nations even the Kings of the Earth to commit Which learned Brightman upon Rev. 14. 8. interprets to be the Superstitions Errors and Idolatries of the Church of Rome which the West sucked from her as from her Mothers Breasts which proved Wine of wrath or jealousie as well as Fornication because hereby the jealousie of God was stirred up and provoked against them as to purpose it hath been manifesting and displaying it self in Characters of Blood and Flames Ruine and Devastation more or less throughout the European Kingdoms That the very Service of the Ch. of Engl. called by an Antiphrasis Divine Service is the Service of the Church of Rome That many of the Fornications Superstitions Errors c. of the old Strumpet are yet remaining in the Church of England we have demonstrated Chap. 7. of S. T. The Holy-dayes observed by the Church of England are the Holy-dayes of Rome its Collects Prayers Litany Rites from thence Mr. T. knows and in part confesseth pag. 102 of his Theodulia So
such thing 1 Cor. 12. 28. speaks not a tittle to it For 1. The Church vers 28. is the Body of Christ vers 27. This Paul tells them the Church of Corinth they were and every Saint in the Church a Member in particular 2. 'T is such a Church amongst whom a Schism might be vers 25. as in the Church of Corinth there actually was which was the occasion of Pauls writing to them That there should be no schism in the Body But Schism is entirely in one Church amongst the members of one particular Society saith that learned man J. O. in his Treatise of Schism Besides 3. It will be hard to prove that in the Church catholick-visible as such Officers are set and placed as 't is vers 28 29. These were in the Church of Corinth which was founded by Paul Acts 18. 8 9 10. Probably Peter had been there for he intimâ—tes That at least some of them had gloried overmuch in him 1 Cor. 3. 21 22. Cephas i. e. Peter Prâ—â—hets Teachers Miracles Gifts of heaâ—ing Helps Governments diversities of Tongues were found amongst them as is known Some of these there is no question but they relate to a particular Church That the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or Teachers here are the same who are elsewhere called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Presbyters Elders and Overseers Mr. T. will not I presume deny Arguments lie near at hand for the demonstration thereof were it needful These are placed of God in particular Churches relate to them as such Acts 14. 23. 15. 2 4 6 22 23 16. 4. 20. 17. 21. 18. Tit. 1. 5. Jam. 5. 14. Act. 20. 28. Nor am I singular in the application of this Scripture to the particular Church of Corinth Pareus hath these words upon the place Et quia c. And because he had said that the Church of the Corinthians was the Body of Christ c. manifesting his consent and harmony with us herein that Paul is not treating of the Church-Catholick-visible but of a particular Church of Christ viz. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 of the Church of God that was in Corinth Nor can this Scripture be meant of the invisible Church of Christ for in it God hath placed no Officers that I know of nor will the Animadverter say he hath 2dly If by the Universal Church-visible he mean the Elect of God redeemed sanctified justified by the spirit of the Lord and the blood of Jesus These are indeed called by the name of the Church in Heb. 12. 23. Eph. 1. 22. To which we may add Mat. 16. 28. Eph. 5. 25 26. That the word Church 1 Cor. 15. 9. is taken for the visible Church indefinitely I cannot subscribe to Possible by the Church of God he means First The Churches of God by an usual Figure there being in those dayes few or no Believers but were added to one Church or other as might easily be demonstrated Acts 2. 41 42. and Acts 4. 32. The multitude of Believers is a Paraphrastical description of the Church Acts 5. 11. The great care of the Apostles was to reduce them that embraced and believed the Gospel into a Church-state or that Order of the Gospel which however oppugned by Mr. T. will be found to be of the Institution of Christ As is evident from the Churches in Jerusalem Acts 7. Samaria chap. 8. Antioch Chap. 14 15. In Syria Cilicia Acts 15. 41. Phrygia Galatia Acts 16. 5 6. Macedonia Chap. 16. Thessalonica Chap. 17. Achaia Chap. 18. Ephesus Chap. 19. Asia Rev. 1. and 2. and 3. Rome Rom. 1. c. planted by them notwithstanding the utmost attempts of the power of darkness or great Red Dragon in the Roman Pagan Empire and of the Children of the Kingdom or the chief Priests Scribes Pharisees Rulers multitudes of People especially of the baser sort fit for any desperate design contradicting blaspheming opposing them herein When once we read of the Gospel preached and mingled with Faith in them that hear it the next news we frequently hear is that these Believers embody together for the worshiping God in the same numerical Ordinances the enjoyment of those priviledges and mutual performance of those duties which in a scattered individual state and capacity they were not capable of Though Secondly By way of eminency he might in that expression and no doubt he did so I persecuted the Church of God have his eye upon that famous Church of Jerusalem in the persecution and dispersion whereof he had it seems no mean hand Acts 7. 58. and 8. 3 4. As for Saul he made havock of Gr. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 he laid waste the Church entering into every house halling 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 by force and violence dragging them along the ground both men and women he committed them to Prison And the very truth is this is the most considerable instance if not the only one of Sauls Persecuting the Church of God 'T is true Acts 9. 1. 't is said And Saul breathing out threatnings and slaughters against the Disciples of the Lord but that only imports the wrath and fury that was in his spirit against them and resolution to persecute imprison waste and destroy them the usual issue of blind zeal for the Tradition of their Fathers in other places as he had already done at Jerusalem For which end he procures Letters to Damascus to bring men and women disciples bound to Jerusalem that he should find of this Heresie there But Oh the wonder of Love Before he arrive thither Christ way-layes him speakes from Heaven to him converts him and sets him upon preaching up that very way and truth he was thus violently persecuting and setting himself against So that not the visible Church indifinitely taken but some particular Churches of Jesus Christ and in especial and by way of eminency that famous Church at Jerusalem is intended 1 Cor. 15. 9. That which Mr. T. mentions in the 5 th place That the word Church is taken for the Church Topical i. e. A particular Church of Christ or a company of Believers dwelling in this or that place giving no themselves to the Lord and one another according to his will walking to gether in the fellowship of the Gospel and meeting 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in the same place for the worshiping God in the same numerical Ordinances according to the prescription will and institution of Christ Acts 8. 1. 1 Cor. 1. 1. Ephes 1. 1. and many other places Of which Chap. 4. of S. T. we assent to as true But that we should ever subscribe 6thly To that dictate of the Animadverter That Church in Scripture is taken for a Church of a Country or Nation and then it is put in the Plural Number as the Churches of Asia Galatia Judaea being so dissonant to truth and contrary to the express language of the Spirit of the Lord he could never imagine For the Churches of Asia Christ tells us expresly they were Seven
Disciples to appeal in matters of Scandal found upon their Brethren with which he hath promised his Presence to which he hath given the Keys of the Kingdom power of binding and loosing is a Church of his own forming But this is a particular Congregational-Church Mat. 18. 17 18 19. as we have demonstrated Therefore Arg. 7. If the Form of Churches be not of Christ's appointment then there is either no beauty splendour glory therein or Christ bears not cannot bear that glory But both of these are absurd 2 Cor. 3. 7 8 9. Zech. 6. 13. Therefore Arg. 8. If the Form of Churches be not of Christ's appointment Then the Church of Christ may have communion with yeeld obedience to the inventions constitutions ordinances and appointments of men of Antichrist the Man of Sin But that they are charged â—ot to do upon most dreadful penalties Rev. 18. 4 5. 14. 9 10 11. Therefore Arg. 9. If the Form of Churches be not of Christ's appointment Then either Christ hath not left sufficient Laws for the government of the Saints or man may super-add to his Laws But both these are false scandalous and injurious to Christ Gal. 3. 15. 2 Tim. 3. 16 17. Rev. 22. 18 19. Arg. 10. If the Form of Churches be not of Christ's appointment Then the Church is not to be governed as 't is taught for it must be taught only by the Word of God Isa 8. 2. But the Consequence is absurd Therefore Arg. 11. If the placing of Officers in particular Churches be of the appointment of Christ then the Churches themselves are so But the placing of Officers in particular Churches is of the appointment of Christ 1 Cor. 12. 28. Eph. 4. 11 12. Therefore Arg. 12. Those Churches which Christ owns for his Candlesticks in allusion to the Candlesticks of the Temple which were purely of divine institution are of the institution of Christ But Christ owns particular Churches for his Candlesticks viz. the Seven Churches of Asia which we have before demonstrated were particular Churches Rev. 1. 20. Therefore Those that desire further satisfaction in this matter may consult a little Treatise lately published entituled A brief Instruction in the Worship of God and Discipline of the Churches of the New Testament p. 93. where they will find it clearly and amply debated Sect. 18. Of National Ministers What meant by Ministry Of extraordinary and ordinary Officers Upon what account the Church of Engl. is asserted to be a false Church Mr. T. his Arguments to prove that in a National Church or a Church irregular in its constitution may be a true Ministry of Christ answered The contrary is demonstrated THE Design of Mr. T. his 18th and 19th Sect. is to answer the second Query in S. T. Whether National Ministers are the Ministers of Christ Or whether there can be a true Ministry in a false Church as a National Church must be if not of divine Institution upon what pretence soever it be so denominated Before he attempts the Resolution of this Query he considers First What the Ministry is of which it is enquired whether it be true or false And having at large acquainted us with the signification of the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 he tells us he understands the query to be meant of that part of the Ministry which is by preaching But I must crave leave to tell him he somewhat misseth the white of the Authors intendment who by it intends an Office-Power of Ministry for discharge of that whole work that peculiarly relates to the Ministers of the Gospel to be performed and managed by them according to the Will of Christ Whether it be the Ministry of the Word the Lords Supper c. This as Mr. T. saith rightly is either the Ministry of extraordinary Officers as Apostles c. of which our Question is not or of ordinary Officers as Pastors c. of whom it is queried Whether ordinary National Officers or Ministers are of the Institution of Christ What saith Mr. T He tells us 1. That Paul was a Minister not only to a particular Church but even to the Gentiles Answ That this doth not in the least concern the Question in debate which is of ordinary Church-Officers and Paul as I remember with the rest of the Apostles was an extraordinary one receiving a Commission for the Preaching of the Gospel to all Nations he will be so ingenuous as upon the review to acknowledge Secondly A Church may be said to be false many wayes Answ True it may so but in his discourse there abouts we are little concerned who assert the Church of England to be a false Church because it is destitute of the true Matter visible Saints and the true Form freely giving up themselves unto the Lord and one another to worship him together as a Community according to the revelation of his will But he will prove Thirdly That in a National Church or a Church irregular in its constitution i. e. that hath neither the matter nor form of a true Church of Christ or discipline may be a true Ministry of Christ His first Argument is Arg. 1. If the truth of the Ministry depend upon the truth of the Church or its regularity then where is no true regular Church there is no true Ministry But that is false since there may be a true Ministry where there is no Church at all and therefore no true Church Therefore Answ If by a true regular Church Mr. T. means a Church for matter and form rightly constituted according to the mind of Christ and by a true Ministry the Ministry of ordinary Officers such as Pastors and Teachers as he must do if he speak pertinently we deny his Minor Proposition Where there is no true Church at all in a false Church or Church not regularly constituted according to the mind of Christ as is the case of the National Church of England there cannot be a true Ministry which Mr. T. forgot to attempt the proof of And indeed his abilities seem to lie much in Dogmatizing and 't is great pitty but he were created a Rabbi in the Pithagorean School his accuteness therein being so incomparably excellent 1st That there can be no true ordinary Ministry where there is no Church is manifest First Where ever we read of ordinary Ministers we read of them as appertaining to some one particular Church or other Acts 14. 23. 15. 2 4 22. 20. 17 28. 1 Cor. 12. 28. Phil. 1. 1. Tit. 1. 5. 1 Pet. 5. 1 2. As good a man may imagine an Husband to be without a Wife or a Major without a Corporation or a Father without Children as a Minister without a Church in which he is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to minister according to the will and appointment of Christ Secondly Every lawful Minister is elected and chosen to his Office by the Church or People of God Therefore there can be no true ordinary
lawful Ministry where there is no Church Of this we have spoken at large Chap 4. of S. T. To which multitudes of Testimonies might be added The Churches of Helvetia Harm Confes Sect. 11. de min. Eccl. affirm The Ministers of the Church must be called and chosen by Ecclesiastical and lawful election i. e. they must be religiously elected by the Church or by some from her deputed thereunto So also do they speak Artic. 16. ibid. So the Bohemian Churches Men who are firm and strong in the Faith fearing God having received necessary gifts for the work of the Ministry of an honest and unblamable conversation by People fearing God must be chosen and called to the administration of holy things Harmon Confes Sect 11. cap 9. de min. Eccl. And they expresly tell us That they permit none to discharge the Office of the Ministry without such an Election of the Church as appears ibid. by the antient Canons thereof To the same purpose the Belgick Churches declare ibid. Art 31. But Thirdly Ordinary Officers cannot be before the Church Therefore where there is no Church there can be no lawful ordinary Officers The Antecedent is evident 1. All along the Acts we read first of the Constitution of Churches before the Ordination of Officers 2. The Scripture saith expresly That all Officers are set in the Church 1 Cor. 12. 28. Which setting doth necessarily presuppose a Church in which they are set 2dly A true Ministry cannot be in a false Church false I mean either with respect to its first Constitution or by reason of such an Apostacy as hath destroyed the essence and being of it For first A false Church is no Church of Christ Therefore in it can be no true ordinary Ministry according to the mind of Christ for the reasons before mentioned Secondly Such a Church is intrusted with no Authority from Christ therefore cannot communicate any nor send forth any to act in his Name That Christ hath intrusted his Church with power to elect and choose Officers we manifest Chap. 4. Pag. 32 33 of S. T. That any Church not right in its Constitution as is the Case of National Churches is invested with any such power is the first-born of absurdities and improbabilities 'T is the Queen the Bride the Lambs Wife that hath the Keys at her girdle not the Concubines But Mr. T. hath more to say to evince the contrary Arg. 2. If there be a true Ministry though to or in a National visible Church or Catholick then the extent which is conceived to be inconsistent with a true Gospel-Church makes not the Ministry false But Peter and Pauls Ministry to the Jews or Gentile Churches was a true Ministry though the Church were National or Catholick Therefore Answ 1. 'T is a most sad thing upon more accounts than one to be engaged against Truth such sorry shifts are men put to and driven to the use of Sophisms so puâ—rile that at other times they would be asâ—amed of Thus fares it with this Animadverter who argues so jejunely that considering what I have heard of him for a Disputant I am ready to question whether the Arguments I read be his or no. Though Truth seeks no corners yet it makes its Adversaries frequently to do so The enquiry as Mr. T. saith rightly in p. 34. is of the ministry of ordinary Pastors c. His two first Arguments relate only to extraordinary Officers viz. the Ministry of the Apostles so that we are not concerned to take the least notice of them Many such impertinencies is thâ—s Animadverters Treatise stuft with 2. Besides the Argument is inconclusive of what Mr. T. pretends to prove viz. That in a National Church or a false Church there may be a true Ministry If there be a true Ministry though to or in a National visible Church saith he then the extent which is conceived to be inconsistent with a true Gospel-Church makes not the Ministry false But Sir whether there be a true Ministry in a National Church is the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 how it comes to be the medium of your Argument I am yet to learn Sure I am such kind of Arguings would deservedly be hissed out of the Schools being in themselves illogical I suppose he would have argued thus If that extent which is conceived to be inconsistâ—nt with a true Gospel-Church makes not the Ministry false Then there may be a true Ministry though to or in a National Church But the extent which is conceived to be inconsistant with a true Gospel-Church makes not the Ministry false for Peter's and Paul's Ministry to the Jews and Gentiles were true Ministries though the Churches were National 1 Cor. 12. 28. Ergo. To the Argument I answer 1. By denying the consequence of the first Proposition For though the extent inconsistant to a true Gospel-Church should not make the Ministry false yet somewhat else may What thinks he of an Antichristian Ordination or a Mission to officiat from the Antichristian Persecuting Beast and Whore though the Church were rightly constituted in and to which a man is a Preacher I conceive his Ministry is false But 2dly I deny his Minor Proposition if by Ministry he understands the Ministry of ordinary Pastors c. which if he doth not he speaks not a word to the question as he himself acknowledgeth pag. 34. the extent of a Church inconstent with a Gospel-Church renders the Church false and indeed no Church i. e. no Gospel-Church Therefore it renders the Ministry false as we before proved Mr. T. his proofs are weak and impertinent 1. Paul and Peter's Ministry was not the Ministry of ordinary Pastors as he grants p. 34. 2dly They were not Ministers in or to a National Church 'T is true they preached to the Jews and Gentiles but for the first their Church-state was virtually terminated at the death of Christ when the Vail of the Temple was rent as for the Gentile Nations they were no National Churches The forming of which ows its original as was said to a latter date So that hitherto Mr. T. hath onely hung out signs of Arguments to prove his Assertion being weighed in the ballances they are found wanting are plainly sophistical It may be in what follows he speaks more pertinently Thus he argues Arg. 3. If Ministry to Churches Hypocritical Schismatical and in some sort Heretical may be a true Ministry much more to a Church National c. those being greater degrees of falshood than this But the Antecedent is before proved from the Epistles to the Corinthians to the Churches of Pergamos Thyatira and Sardis Ergo. Answ No doubt but Mr. T. and his Associates in this work think they have excellently well acquitted themselves in this Argument but the emptiness and invalidity of it will soon appear 1. What if we deny the consequence of the Major Proposition upon supposition that there may be a true Ministry to Churches of such a complexion as that intimated it doth not
at all follow that there may be a true Ministry to and in a Church National Where is Mr. T. proof of his consequence Why these are greater degrees of falshood than are to be found in a National Church Well this is denied also What offers he to make it appear to be so Why you have his 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 for it he saith so But seriouslly Mr. T. is so inconstant to his own words principles and practices that we are afraid if we should assent to what he asserts upon that foundation we should once in seven or eight years if the minds of men in authority over us should in that time be different believe and disbelieve the same positions What if the National Church be as Schismatical Heretical Hypocritical as the Churches instanc'd in this were a facile undertaking to demonstrate I hope then it being false in its constitution which the others instanc'd in were not we may with this Animadverter's leave assert that greater degrees of falshood are not to be found in and upon them than are to be found upon his National Church Besides supposing the Churches instanc'd in to be such as M. T. saith they were they were once true Churches of Christ to whom power was delegated from him foâ— the election and choosing of Officers to act in his Name and Authâ—rity amongst them which cannot be affirmed of any National Church in the World That because a true Ministry may be in a true Church under great degeneracy therefore there may be a true Ministry in a false Church is an Assertion that this Animadverter had need to consult with some body else to help him to make good than his present Adviserâ— But 2. We crave leave to deny his Minor A true Ministry câ—nnot be in Hypocritical Schismatical Heretical Churches If they are such they are no Churches of Christ if known to be so they are not to be owned as such by them that fear him But he hath proved this from the Epistles to the Corinthians to the Churches of Pergamos Thyatira and Sardis Answ What hath he proved that these Churches were Hypocritical Schismatical Heretical nothing less 'T is true 1 Cor. 1. 11 12. Paul tells the Corinthians that he heard there were Contentions amongst them c. that the Church was schismatical he saith not That there are Contentions amongst the members of the Church of England Mr. T. cannot deny that therefore it is to be accounted a Schismatical-Church he will scarce assert 'T is true also that there were some in the Church of Pergamos and Thyatira that held false and erroneous opinions and that the Churches were too much to blame to suffer them as they did for which Christ rebukes them In Sardis the generality of the members were wonderfully declined in their spirits a time of withering decayes deadness was upon them yet was not the one an Heretical nor the other an Hypocritical Church Nor can Mr. T. make good his charge against either of them As for the Church of Pergamos Christ witnesseth of them that although they dwelt where Satan's seat was i. e. where the Roman Governour lived who was Satan's chief instrument for persecuting the Saints yet they hâ—â—d fast his Name and did not deny his Faith which is not a description of an Heretical Church They owned Christ retained cleaved to the Doctâ—ine of the Gospel i. e. the Body of the Church did though some few amongst them held strange Heterodoxies therefore no Heretical-Church The like may be said of the Church of Thyatira doth Christ charge her with Heresie doth he say the whole Body or maâ—or part of the Church was infected with the doctâ—ine of Jezebel nothing less He saith indeed that the Church was too negligent in their duty to put a stop to her seducing his Servants and intimates as if some were led astray by her But withal testifies that there were a considerable number amongst them that had not received her doctrine nor known the depths of Satan they called them depths i. e. deep and wonderful things but they were the depths of Satan Of Sardis Christ also witnesseth that there were some things remaining that he would have her strengthen i. e. some graces that were not quite extinct and dead in them and of some of them expresly that they had not defiled their garments and that they should walk with him in white for they were worthy which cannot be affimed of Hypocrites Rev. 2. 13 19 20 24 25. 3. 2 4. Therefore no Heretical nor Hypocritical Churches And I cannot but wonder at the confidence of this Animadverter to affirm it of them after the testimony Christ gives touching them it being little less than giving him the lie to his face So that of this Argument we shall 't is probable hear no more Of his fourth Argument we need say no more but this that the Ministry therein mentioned is the Ministry of the Apostles which he grants not at all to relate to our present Question If he can make good this Consequence the Apostles who were extraordinary Officers immediately sent forth by Jesus Christ were true Ministers afore the regular constitution and discipline of Churches without their election or mission Therefore Pastors and Teachers who are to be chosen by a Church regularly constituted are true Ministers though not so chosen he will be able to reinforce this Argument else he must never bring it into the field more His fifth Argument in brief is The denomination of true Ministers is from the truth of their Doctrine and no other form denominating them But there may be a Ministration of true Doctrine in a false Church Ergo Answ 1. The Major is most false the denomination of true Ministers is from somewhat else beside the truth of their Doctrine viz. A regular Mission according to the mind of Christ or an entrance in by the Door else they are not true Ministers but Thieves and Robbers What places they are before-mentioned that he saith placeth the truth of Ministry in the Doctrine taught and no other thing I cannot tell and do assure him that when he brings one place to prove it I will be his convert Col. 1. 6 7. saith no such thing Epaphras preacheth the Truth of God to the Colossians and is said to be for them a faithful Minister of Christ therefore the denomination of true Ministers is from the truth of their Doctrine and nothing else is one of those consequences are frequently imposed upon us without the least shadow of proof 2dly That 't is the duty of true Ministers and in some sense their property to preach and promote Truth is most certain Paul tells us 2 Cor. 13. 8. that they could do nothing against the Truth but for the Truth But that the denomination of true Ministers is from the truth of their Doctrine and no other form denominating them is I suppose asserted by our Animadverter in haste and will upon second thoughts be retracted
by him For it will hence follow that whoever brings the truth of Doctrine is a true Minister Then the Devil was so Mark 1. 24. Luke 4. 34. Every private Brother a Woman may be so For where the Form denominating is there the Subject is rightly denominated from it But this is too absurd for Mr. T. to cleave to His sixth Argument is False Prophets false Apostles false Brethren are onely denominated from their false Doctrine therefore they are not false Ministers but true who teach the truth of the Gospel The Antecedent he proves from 2 Pet. 2. 1. 2 Cor. 11. 13. Gal. 2. 4 5. 1 Joh. 2. 18 21 22 26. 2 Joh. 7. Answ 1. We deny the consequence it doth not follow â—pon supposition that false Prophets are so denominated from their false Doctrine that whoever preach true Doctrine are true Ministers the proof whereof we expect by the next 2ly the Antecedent is manifestly false False Prophets are so called because they ran and prophesied in the Name of the Lord when he never sent them speak in them or to them Jer. 14. 14 15. 23. 21 22. 27. 15. 28. 15. 29. 9 31. 43. 2. Ezâ—k 13. 6. Of false Apostles there is the same reason The true Apostles are so call'd upon the account of their Mission from Christ nor is any one so except lawfully called by Christ saith Pareus on 1 Cor. 1. The false upon the account of their pretending thereto when indeed they were never sent by him Nor doth 2 Cor 11. 13. make void this Assertion it rather establisheth it T is true the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or false Apostles preached false Doctrine but they are not upon that foot of account so denominated but because they were metaschematizing or transforming themselves into the Apostles of Christ as Satan is also sometimes transforming himself into an Angel of light i e they come as the Apostles of Christ pretend to be his Ambassadors men sent by him as M. T. knows the word signifies when really and indeed they were not so 1 Joh. 2. 18 21 22 26. tells us of Antichrists that were already come such as Simon Magus Ebion Cerinthus and that tâ—ey opposed the Person and Doctrine of the Son of God who with their endless genealogies and unintelligible conceptions attempted the total overthrow of the Gospel wondrously perplexing the Saints of that day but that therefore they were called false Apostles there is not the least mention Gal. 2. 4 5. speaks of false Brethren but that they are so called singly upon the account of their spreading false opinions is a conceit that Mr. T. will not in haste make good They were unsound hypocritical Professors that pretending to be Brethren sought an occasion to injure and mischieve the Children of the Lord which Paul had too great an experiment of 2 Cor. 11. 26. 2 Pet. 2. 1. hath already been considered So that with more Scripture-evidence it may be argued If false Prophets false Apostles be so denominated upon the account of their running before they were sent pretending to come in his Name when he never missionated them Then they are false Ministers who come in the Name of Christ and have received no authentick Commission from him But the Antecedent is true as we have evinced Therefore Sect. 19. Of God's determining the whole of our Worship His so doing of old in the Statutes and Judgments he gave to Israel an eminent act of Love it is so now to his New-Testament-Churches Mr. T. his ten Arguments to the contrary answered Acts 15. 10. Heb. 7. 18 19. 9. 9 10. Joh. 1. 18. explained THe third Query in the S. T. is Whether God doth not beaâ— as much love to and exercise as much faithfulness over his New-Testament-Churches as over the National Church of the Jews To this Mr. T. answers No doubt of it He grants he doth To the fourth Query Whether he hath not as of old he did with reference to the then Church determined the whole of the Worship appertaining to them to whose Institutions without any humane additions it is the duty of fouls solely to conform He answers in the Negative God hath not determined Circumstantials in Worship he must mean Circumstances of Worship relating to it as such or he speaks nothing to the purpose and these are such necessary parts of Worship that without them it is not accepted and his not doing so is an argument of greater love to his New-Testament-Churches than his determining the whole of his Worship to the Church of the Jews was to them Answ 1. In pag. 32. he tells us that if God do design more diligently the longitude and latitude of the Jewish Church at their calling hereafter which are things Mr. T. accounts Accidentals of Worship undetermined and leave the dimension of our Church to humane choice this may be done out of more special love to them So that the same act of God is it seems a manifestation and no manifestation of greater love from God i. e. when it will serve Mr. T. his design to assert it to be so it is so when otherwise he will perswade to the belief of the contrary Quo teneam vultus mutantem Protea nodo 2dly When the Lord speaks of the Judgments and Statutes he had given to Israel whereby the whole of their Worship was determined he speaks of them as the wondrous manifestation of his love to theâ— whereby they were eminently exalted above all the people in the world Psal 147. 19 20. Ezek. 20. 11. Neh. 9. 13. Deut. 6. 24. That the determination of their Worship should be an issue of dearest love and the non-determination of ours a manifestation of greater love is an Assertion that had need be back't with strong proofs and evidence else it is not likely to find the least entertainment amongst the Saints But this he manifests by no less than a decad of Reasons Reas 1. Because the determination of the whole of the Worship of God to the Jews was the imposing of a yoke on them which neither the elder nor later Jews were able to bear Acts 15. 10. Answ But this is a mistake of the Animadverters The Apostle Peter saith not the determination of the whole of the Worship of God to them was such a yoke but the pressing Circumcision and Mosaical Observances by some Sect-masters amongst them as the way to Justifâ—cation and Salvation was so As is evident from ver 1 5 11. The Doctrine of Justification and Salvation by the works of the Law was a yoke that they were not able to bear Ergo the determination of the whole of the Worship of God was so is a most ridiculous and puerile Conclusion 2. Grant the yoke to be Mosaical Observances their number and multitude c. made them such an insupportable yoke not their deteâ—mination by the Lord. Whatever he institutes and commands as such is the joy and delight of the Saints to conform to not
cases to the Church of Corinth 1 Cor. 11. 34. and tells them the rest he will set in order when he comes to them therefore 't is left to Church-Governours to institute de novo Ordinances and Institutions of their own and impose them upon the Churches is such a Conseqâ—ence that would put a modest concern'd person to a blush to review we have no Apostles none acted by an infallible Spirit as they In answer to the Objection as proposed by us we say that the whole of it is built upon such false suppositions as these That Christ hath not determined in the Scripture how the affairs of his House should be managed with decency and order as well as commanded that they be so which is derogatory to the Scriptures perfection to the Wisdom and Faithfulness of Christ diametrically opposite to the Scripture 1 Cor. 14. 40. instanc'd it of which we give this brief account The Apostle having condemned them for their irregularity in the matter of Prophesying vers 26. He gives direction touching its regular performance And that 1. Generally vers 26. 40. 2. Particularly by telling them how they ought to manage this affair in a way of decency and edification vers 27 28 29 30 34 35. That from hence a power invested in the Church for the binding the Consciences of men touching Ceremonies in Worship should be regularly deduced is the first-born of improbabilities 1. Paul speaking by an infallible Spirit adviseth the Church of Corinth That all things be done decently and in order 2. Tells them wherein that decency and order lies therefore such as pretend not to such a Spirit may of their own heads bind our Consciences by Laws of their own in the Service of God is such a non-sequitur as will not in hast be made good To this Mr. T. pretends to answer Sect. 4. The sum is Christ hath left many particularities undetermined in his Worship and the Rule of his Church to be determined by Governours Answ 1. If by particularities of VVorship he mean such as relate to it as such of Church-government such as are special parts thereof as the things mentioned by us are made to be this hath been often denied and disproved by us 2. He egregiously trifles in the matters instanc'd in by him though I think it horrible wickedness not to be born for Ecclesiastical Governours by penal Laws and Statutes to impose even those things upon the Churches That it should be criminal at the Communion not to have the Table spread with a Cloth That the Service begin with the recital of the Institution or otherwise as he speaks and beseech this Animadverter if he resolves again to draw the Saw of this Controversie that we may agree in this not to multiply impertinencies and so prove what we say I know not any of the Sons of men that have power to bind my Conscience where Christ hath not But this Mr. T. proves because 1. Parents are charged to bring up their Children in the nurture and admonition of the Lord Ephes 6. 4. 2. We are to pray for Kings that we may lead a quiet and peaceable Life under them Ergo Antichristian Church-Officers or Governours Ecclesiastical have power to make and impose Constitutions for Church-Government upon the Saints Apage ineptias That the Reader should suppose such arguings as these worth the considering I cannot be so injurious to him as to imagine whilst I conceive him to be one not bereaved of his understanding Much after the same rate that some admirers of the Gentleman at Rome are wont to argue for his Supremacy above Princes because 't is said God made two great Lights the Sun to rule the Day and the Moon to rule the Night Doth Mr. T. at present argue for the power of the Rulers of the Church of England in matters of Worship and Government without authority from Christ Yea but 3dly The Bishop must take care of the Church of God 1 Tim. 3. 5. Answ 1. But this is a Christian-Gospel-Bishop a Pastor of a particular Church which our Bishops are not 2. It remains to be proved that his taking care of the Church of God is his imposing institutions of his own upon them A forced Interpretation to say no more We read Luke 10. 34. that the Samaritan took care of the wounded man and v. 35 bid his Host take care of him yet I am perswaded neither the one nor the other called Synods to establish Canons and Constitutions Ecclesiastical to impose upon him The whole work of a Bishop is not surely to Rule and Govern he is to instruct exhort admonish rebuke with all longsuffering and meeâ—ness to strengthen the weak comfort the comfortless and in all to have respect to the will and appointments of his Soveraign Lord and King not to act exorbitantly according to his own will and pleasure What he adds by way of Answer to what we assert that the conceit that Christ hath not determined in the Scripture how the affairs of his House should be managed is a derogation to the perfection of the Scripture and the faithfulness of Christ is already fully replied to and removed out of the way Only whereas he cites 2 Tim. 3. 15. and intimates that the sufficiency there ascribed to the Scripture consists in affording Doctrines of Faith and Rules of Life we crave leave to tell him That his Assertion is 1. Papistical exploded by our Protestant Divines 2. False and untrue the Apostle expresly asserts their sufficiency with respect to Church-Politie to instruct Timothy wherein is no small part of his design in this Epistle He goes on and tells us That we give not a true account of the Apostles dissertation 1 Cor. 14. 1. He asserts not the Liberty of Saints in Prophesying Answ Of the truth of this let the Reader inform himself from vers 31. 'T is not material as to our present purpose whether by Prophesying he meant a particular gift of fore-telling things to come or an Exposition of Scripture for the edification of the Saints whether it were the one or the other those to whom the gift was given were to improve it and this the Apostle expresly asserts to be their Liberty and duty He tells us 2dly It is not right that the Apostle vers 40. represseth his direction vers 26. Answ The serious perusal of the Chapter will evince the contrary to this dictate of his Yea but 3dly saith he If it were so there is nothing to prove that no particular wayes of decency and order are permitted to the care of after-Rulers Answ 1. We are answering an Objection not proving a Position or Doctrine 'T is enough that we manifest that the Scripture produced warrants not Governours to introduce New Orders and Institutions an endless company of ridiculous Ceremonies under the notion of Decency and Order which whether we have evinced or not let the Reader judge 2. That he waves the Controversie about Ceremonies as Cross Surplice
themselves considered But this is but one Doctors opinion retracted by him de Sac. Euch. l. 4. c. 29. where he asserts that which is contrary thereunto should two or three more be remarked of the same mind with him they amount but to a few in comparison of the generality of mankind otherwise minded The Minor Proposition viz. That the present Ministers of England act in the holy things of God by virtue of an Office-power received from Idolaters and offer up to him a Worship meerly of humane composition once abused to Idolatry with the Modes and Rites of Idolaters we do in S. T. demonstrate Three things are in this matter argued and evinced 1st That the Romish Church are Idolaters their Worship in the complexion thereof Idolatry This we prove at large and our Animadverter grants it to be true 2dly That the present Ministers of England act by virtue of an Office-power from this combination and Assembly of Idolaters This they themselves will not deny Succession from hence being one of the best pleas they have for the justification of their Ministry This we argue at large in S. T. and Mr. T. after a great many words grants their succession from Rome But adds 2dly That this is not one of their best pleas they have for the justification of their Ministry Answ 1. When they or he for them produce a better it shall be considered this is what they especially plead an Argument 't is one of their best pleas in their account however our Animadvertâ—r thinks otherwise Nor indeed 2dly Do I see how their Episcopal Ordination can be justified without it He conceives 3dly That they will deny that they act by virtue of an Office-power received by succession from the combination of Idolaters in the Church of Rome Answ 1. The derivation of their succession from the Papacy they deny not This their succession pleaded for is a succession of Ministry That they should be so absurd as to acknowledge a succession in respect of their Ministry from them and deny the reception of their Office-power from them which is nothing more or less than their Office of Ministry I cannot imagine What follows in this Sect. hath already been replied to and therefore we shall not further trouble the Reader therewith We say in S. T. 3dly That the present Ministers offer up to God a Worship meerly of Humane composition as the Common-Prayer-Book-Worship hath been proved to be once abused to Idolatry being the Worship of that Church whose worship is so the whole of it being taken out of the Popes Portuis with the Rites and Modes of Idolaters viz. their Holy Vestments Bowings Candles Altars which are the Rites of the Idolatrous Church of Rome and were introduced from thence by Austin the Monk cannot be denied And hence conclude That the present Ministers acting in the holy things of God by virtue of an Office-power received from Idolaters and offering up to him a Worship meerly of Humane composition once abused to Idolatry with the Rites and Modes of Idolaters are deeply guilty of Idolatry What Mr. T. replies hereunto Sect. 14. hath for the most part already been removed out of the way 1. The Forms of Prayer in the Service-Book by their Imposition are made an essential part of Worship as we have proved as such they are not agreeable to Gods Word not of Divine but meerly humane composition 2. Had these Forms never been in the Mass-Book being made by their imposition a part of Worship they had been superstitious Idolatrous being an open violation of the second Commandment 3. I wonder at the forehead with which 't is affirmed that the Rites and Modes used in the Church of Rome that are Idolatrous are not observed and used What thinks he of bowing at the Altar the Name of Jesus which Dr. Willet acknowledgeth to be superstitious Idolatrous Synops Papism the 9th gener Contro p. 492 493. as do our Protestants generally kneeling at the receiving of the Sacrament the Cross in Baptism These are some of the Rites used in the Papacy and as so used Mr. T. will not I presume deny them to be Idolatrous 4. The learned Muccovius proves what he asserts That the sacred Rites of Idolaters though they be things in themselves indifferent are †So say our Divines generally to whom Zâ—nchie Junius Pelican Calvin Beza Farrel yea Lyra though a Papist Pezelius Mollerus Zegedinus Danaeus Zepperus Sadael not to be retained because all conformity with Idolaters is to be avoided from Lev. 19. 19 27 28. 21. 5. Deut. 14. 1. The things there interdicted were in themselves indifferent the ground of their interdiction was because they were the sacred Rites of Idolaters as say Salmasius Herodotus l. 3. Maimonides Treat of Idolatry chap. 12. Sect. 7 11. Vatablus Fagius c. I cannot upon this occasion but remind the judicious Reader of what the learned Zanchy writes touching this matter to Q. Eliz. l. 1. Epist p. 431. 'T is not honest saith he that those things which have a long time been used in idolatrous Worship if they are things in themselves indifferent should be retained in the Church with the hazard of the Salvation of the Godly The brazen Serpent which was appointed by the Lord and indeed for the Salvation of Israel because the Isruelites abâ—sed it contrary to the Word of God was by the good King Hezekiah taken away who is greatly praised for it how much more should things and Rites indifferent instituted by men when they decline to Superstition and other abuses be removed which Mr. T. may answer at his leisure Sect. 6. A third Argument proving the Ministers of England Idolatâ—rs That worshipping God in by or before the creature respectivè or with relation to the creature is Idolatry WE advance in S. T. a third Argument to prove the Ministers of England Idolaters which is thus formed Adoration in by or before a creature respectivè or with relation to the creature is idolatrouâ— such as so adore or worship God are Idolaters But the present Ministers of England do adore or worship God in by or before a creature respectivè or with relation to the creature Therefore The major proposition we say is generally owned by Protestants it being the very same Maxime they make use of and stop the mouths of the Papists with in the point of adoring God mediately by the Creature The truth of the minor proposition their bowing and cringing at the Altar their kneeling at the receiving the Sacrament do evince That their kneeling is an adoration or worshipping God before the creature respectivè or with relation to the creature is manifest Nothing being more certain than that the Elements are objectum a quo or the motive of their kneeling which if they were not there they would not do Didoclavius p. 755. tells us That Genuflexion is Idolatry which Maccovius assents to Loc. Com. p. 861. To which Mr. T. Sect. 15. 1. The Author of S. T.
solemn a thanksgiving as any they have in their Common-Prayer-Book rising from our knees and seats to repeat it Nor 3dly do I understand the bleating of that expression in the place cited by Mr. T. That genuflexion is enjoyn'd for the avoiding such prophanation in the Holy Communion as might ensue Except they give honour more than enough to the Elements it being much like what was pleaded by the Papists for the same practice viz. that the Priests may put it more easily into the mouth of the Receiver without danger of spilling it Nor 4thly know I a greater prophanation of any Ordinance than the adding something of our own devising thereunto as a part thereof and kneeling in the Act of receiving by their imposition being so added that which they pretend to do for the avoiding of prophanation in the Communion is the greatest prophanation thereof imaginable I crave leave to add that it is to be feared that there are hundreds of ignorant people in the Countrey who upon strict enquiry would be found to make the Bread and Wine not only the motive which all know it is but the object of their Worship Touching the Ministers bowing and cringing at the Altar he leaves them that are concern'd to plead for themselves he will be no Advocate for them only this he will say That those who use it avouch they do it not to any other but God and therefore are not to be charged with Idolatry Answ 1. The vanity of this consequence we have over and overconfuted 2dly Many of the Heathens the Romanists avouch as much touching bowing to their Images they do it not to any other than God yet he will not sure say therefore they are not guilty of Idolatry These coverings are quite too short to cover the nakedness of the Ministers of England which may be easily discern'd through them Our next attempt in S. T. is The removal of Objections the first whereof is thus proposed Object 1. The charging the present Ministers of England with Idolatry is exceeding harsh and that which is an Argument of a very unchristian and censorious Spirit To which we answer 1st That many words of Christ himself were accounted hard sayings and not to be born To which Mr. T. Christ's sayings were unjustly counted hard because they were true yours justly because not so Answ 1. Whether ours are true or false is left to the Impartial Reader to determine 2dly That they are unchristian and censorious is an uncharitable Dictate of this Animadverter they tend not to division amongst the Saints but Union We add secondly That in this matter we have said nothing but what is asserted by most or all Protestant Writers upon the second Commandment who tell us That the worshipping God in a way not prescribed by him is Idolatry such as do so are Idolaters Our Application hereof to the present Ministers whom we have proved guilty of so worshipping God we see no reason why any should account unchristian or censorious Mr. T. replies That which by the Protestant Writers is said is not all true Answ Nor do I say it is but when the same thing is asserted by them in Thesi that we in this matter affirmed 't was supposed that we might no more justly be charged with censoriousness and uncharitableness than they the truth whereof Mr. T. doth not deny We say 3dly What would these Objectors have said to Tertullian who is by far more nice in this point of Idolatry than we have declared our selves to be yet could he not justly be charged wiâ—h an unchristian and censorious Spirit To which our Animadverter adjoyns 1. Tertullian in the close of his life was a man that ascribed too much to private revelations Answ 1. And what if he did Is what he saith touching Idolatry bottom'd upon those private revelations Nothing less Was he in his declamations against Idolaters uncharitable and censorious Who besides himself will affirm it What rule of charity have we broken in what we have argued and offered in this matter What one particular have I laid to the charge of the present Ministers that is not evidently proved Let him manifest the one or the other to be done by us and we will acknowledge our evil till then declamations and oâ—tcries of uncharitableness and censoriousness are but empty sounds 2. His reflection as if we were guilty of ascribing too much to private revelations we can bear with contentment Non hoc primum pectora vulnus mea senserunt graviora tuli with this intimation that through Grace we are not Nor dare we embrace any thing should an Angel from Heaven preach it which is not consonant to the Law and Testimony of God contained in the Scriptures 3. That Tertullian had more reason as he saith to be nice about the point of Idolatry than we he proves not the contrary is evident Did he live amongst Pagans do not we live amongst Romish Idolaters who have been not a little industrious to introduce and impose upon us the whole of their Idolatrous Worship and Service Christians were then hastening from the superstitions of the Heathens many are now posting toward Antichristian Idolatry Who could have thought that so much of the Worship of Rome their Prayers Anthems Rites and Instruments of their Idolatry as Surplice Altar Candles Organs shluld in so little time have taken root in England as in five or six years they have done The second Objection proposed in S. T. is What shall we judge of Latimer Ridley Hooper who worshipped God after the same way of worship that these do now were they also Idolaters To which we answer 1. That they were eminent Witnesses of Jesus Christ in their day 2dly That they are now with Christ and shall come with him to judge their unjust judges we believe But 3dly they were but men encompassed about with many infirmities that they were guilty of the sin of Idolatry cannot be denyed Yet 1. They were in that day but just peeping out of the Gates of Babylon and 't is no wonder if some of the filth of her Fornications did cleave to them To which Mr. T. How is it that they are now with Christ where no unclean thing enters Answ 1. How is it that Joshua is now with Christ who comes out of Babylon with filthy Garments Zach. 3. 3. But 2dly his question is answered in what follows in S. T. 2. God of pure Grace accepted them in Christ granting them a general repentance for those iniquities they saw not to be so Mr. T. adjoyns That they should repent of that they offered to â—ustifie a little before they died is not likely Answ 1. But that they had a general repentance for what they seeing not to be evil did not particularly bewail he attempts not the proof of The Patriarks manifested no particular repentance for their poligamy they justified it by their practice to the last Abraham took him Concubines when very old David added to those he
had Abishag when ready to leave the World I ask Was this their sin iâ— Mr. T. will not deny it nor that they were defiled with it every â—niquity leaving defilement behind it How is it that they are now wiâ—â— Christ where no unclean thing enters That they should repent of that which they justified a little before they died is not likely what will Mr. T. answer If I mistake not the same answer will serve to stop his own mouth with respect to his present arguings Nor know I a better than this 't is true we find not that they particularly repented hereof but a general repentance we in charity believe they had which God accepted in Christ 2dly What is that they offered to justifie a little before they died Did they offer to justifie kneeling in the act of receiving Nothing less the wearing of the Surplice But some of them as Ridley abhord it and were troubled at the very heart that they imposed it upon others as he knows We conclude in S. T. The Intelligent Reader knows that these things are not of any moment for the invalidating what hath been offered upon this Subject Our Animadverter replies 1. Though this be not a direct answer to their Argument yet 't is a very great prejudice against it that by striking at the present Ministers you wound the Holy Martyrs and make them Idolaters for that very thing for which they died that they might not be Idolaters Answ 1. 'T is true in the thoughts of some this might be a great prejudice against the Argument against the Truth 'T is no new thing for the Truths of God to be attended with as great prejudices as this 2dly That this should be accounted any prejudice at all by persons that desire to weigh things uprightly in the Ballance of the Scriptures setting aside the consideration of persons cannot be imagined Nor is it 3dly any greater prejudice against our Argument than lies against the Arguments of the Protestants against the Papists Idolatries and Superstitions who yet some of them that have been guilty thereof have been true Christians and in some things witnesses of Christ against Papal pride and abominations and have sealed their Testimony with their blood He adds 2dly That I should when I wrote this Chapter have thought of Psal 73. 15. Answ 1. But to what purpose I know not that mentioning the infirmities and weaknesses of the Children of the Lord with that tenderness regard to their due honour and esteem amongst the Saints as I did for the removing of prejudice that might arise in the minds of any against what I was pleading for under this assurance that it is Truth should be a sinning against the Generation of the Righteous Mr. T. is the first that I believe did ever suggest it and 't is pitty but he should be the last it being a most monstrous and absurd figment The Patriarks Poligamy Aaron's Moses Davids Peters weaknesses are in Scripture and may be by any one upon just occasion mentioned I hope without sinning against the Generation of the Righteous and why not the Idolatry of these last Worthies The Animadverter sees I have according to his advice reviewed this Argument and do assure him I see not the least cause from what he offers to retract what was offer'd in S. T. touching it but conclude that the present Ministers of England are guilty of Idolatry and therefore 't is the duty of Saints not to hear but separate from them And if this be in Mr. T. his account an extream of Fanaticism as he speaks I desire for ever to be found in this extream CHAP. IX Arg. 7. Sect. 1. A seventh Argument against hearing the present Ministers 'T is an offence grief scandal and cause of stumbling to their Breathren forbidden Mat. 18. 6. Luke 17. 1 2. Rom. 14. 13 15 20. 1 Cor. 8. 8 9 13. 10. 24. Mr. T. his eight Arguments to the contrary refuted THE eighth Chapter of S. T. contains a seventh and eighth Argument against hearing the present Ministers The seventh is thus formed 'T is not lawful for Saints to do any thing for the doing whereof there is no positive precept in the Scripture that is an offence grief scandal and cause of stumbling to their Breathren But the hearing the present Ministers of England as there is no positive precept in the Scripture for it so it is an offence grief scandal and cause of stumbling to the Brethren Therefore The major or first Proposition we prove from Rom. 14. 13 15 20. 1 Cor. 8. 9 13. 10. 24. The minor we say consists of two parts 1. That for hearing the present Ministers there is no positive warrant in the Scripture if there be let it be produced and this Controversie is at an end Now considering Mr. T. his brag p. 61. of the facility of producing Scripture-Warrant for hearing the present Ministers one might justly have expected he should here produce it But in the stead thereof Ch. 8. S. 2. you have only an intimation of what he hath already shewed in this matter which hath already been refuted by us We add in S. T. 2ly That the Saints hearing the present Ministers of Engl. is an offence grief scandal and occasion of stumbling to their Brethren to many thousands it is so as their groans and tears alone and together upon this foot of account demonstrate many have been drawn as is known by the practice of some leading Brethren in this matter against the checks of their own Consciences to a conformity herein to their after grief wounding To which Sect. 3. Mr. T. replies after he hath talked of mens appropriating the tearm visible Saints to those of the Congregational way or Presbyterial which we do not that this Argument is unnecessary if the other be good that it supposeth all that is formerly disputed to be weak which is one of his empty flourishes that we affright persons by such Arguments to keep them to our selves in which he speaks falsly wickedly That hearing the present Ministers is not such an offence grief scandal as that which is forbidden Mat. 18. 6. Luke 17. 1 2. Rom. 14. 13 15 20. 1 Cor. 8. 8 9 13. 10. 24. and this he will prove thus Arg. 1. That is not scandalizing forbidden in these texts which is neither by giving evil example in doing that which is intrinsecally evil nor by enticing practices or persecution impelling to evil nor by abuse of liberty in things lawful to the harm of another But the Saints hearing the present Ministers is not scandalizing either of these wayes Therefore Answ 1. We deny his Minor for which he brings no proof We say with him That hearing the Ministers of England is not a matter of indifferency 't is not the duty of the Saints but their sin yet some others accounting it neither matter of duty nor sin but liberty we were willing to debate the case of scandal with them upon that their
truth of the assertion we fully manifest in S. T. nor doth Mr. T. deny but that the hearing the present Ministers doth pour out contempt upon the Institutions mentioned he denies them to be the Institutions of Christ Sect. 5. tells us That 't is a gross error which is oft in the mouthes of the Seperatists that they may not hear with the world nor pray with the world whence it hath come to pass that some have left off praying in their Families unless Members of their Church Answ The first and second we have proved beyond what Mr. T. hath as yet been able to reply to 2dly The last I hope is not true God forbid that any that pretend to Christianity much more such as are so in truth should so far degegenerate into the Spirit of Heathenism as not to call upon God in their Families or cease to do their uttermost to convert their Children and Servants to the Lord and instruct them in his fear 3. That this is the consequence of the principle of Seperation or that 't is in it self a gross Error that 't is unlawful for me to hear with the world or pray with the world i. e. joyn with them in their Worship he may prove when he is able What follows hath either already been replied to or will be in its proper place so that we need not attend it here The second thing in the Minor Proposition incumbent upon us to prove we say in S. T. is 2dly That hereby poor souls are hardned in a false way of Worship what can be thought less supposing the worship in the Parish-Assemblies of England to be so as hath been proved when they shall see Professors that were wont to pray and preach together to prosess and protest against Common-Prayer-Book Worship and Priests to cry up or at least approve of as Mr. T. 't is thoâ—ght did Laws made for their ejection if guilty of no other crime than conformity to the Worship they now conform to and practise now flock to their Assemblies and hear their Priests What can they imagine less than that these persons thus acting in a direct contrariety to their former judgment and practice do now see they were mistaken and are begining at least to return unto those pathes from whence they departed and that these wayes in which they and their forefathers have walked are the good Old Way in which rest is to be found To which Mr. T. Answers nothing but what hath already been considered noâ— any thing that deserves our stay The 3d Particular asserted in the Minor Proposition it s said in S. T. is That hereby poor souls are hardned in their rebellion and blasphemy against God his Spirit and Tabernacle and them that dwell therein This is not to be questioned we every day hear stout words spoken against the Lord because of the practice of some in this thing what say the wicked less thanthat Religion is but a fancy that the professors thereof are but a generation of Hypocrites that will turn to any thing to save themselves that the Spirit by which they are acted is but a Spirit of Phanaticism and delusion Yea how do they bless themselves that they are not nor ever were of the number of such Professors and that because they see these for fear of Persecution desert their former principles strike in with their Assembly and Ministers To which Mr. T. adjoyns 1st Papists have thus insulteâ— over Protestants upon the return of any seeming zealous Protestant into the Romane Church yet the Answerer knows how to reply to such that mens instability shews their own weakness not the thing in which they have been zealous to have been good or bad Answ Very right and we know how to reply to the insulting of the Conformists upon the account of the return of any seeming zealous Professors to them but still we say that their return to them gives them too just occasion of insulting The contrary to which Mr. T. should have proved of which he speaks not one word He adds 2dly This Author doth not do well to call the Obloquies against his party speaking against Religion blaspheming God the Spirit Tabernacle and them that dwell therein Answ Sir the party I am through grace of are not mine but Christs the followers of the Lamb in opposition to the wicked profane world of no other party do I own my self to be 2. The Obloquies Blasphemies mentioned being such as are vented against the Institutions of Christ as we have proved them to be and such as conform to them by the Beast and his party may well be called Blaspheming God his Temple Tabernacle and them that dwell therein They are so called by the Spirit Rev. 13. 5 6. He adds 3dly It were very sad should we be afraid to do a thing because of Clamours Answ True if the thing done be our duty which if he supposeth in the present case he begs the question or continue in that which we cannot justifie because men will be hardened in their own way Answ Very right but if a man depart from that way which he once owned to be the way of God which he justifies in the Scriptures to be such and in so doing hardens persons to cleave to a way of Superstition Formality to their utter undoing and gives them just occasion to open their mouthes against the Institutions of Christ reviling blaspheming them and those that walk in them this is not justifiable nor will it be found matter of joy to us at the end of our dayes that we have administred such occasions to them It remaineth then that inasmuch as the hearing the present Ministers pours out contempt upon the wayes and Institutions of Christ hardens persons in a false way of Worship Rebellion and Blasphemy against God it s utterly unlawful for Saints to be found in the pâ—â—ctise thereof Sect. 2. A 10th Argument proving the unlawfulness of hearing the present Ministers 'T is not lawful to go to the places of false Worship All Monuments of Idolatry to be abolished proved The judgment of the learned Mede Cotton Ainsworth Robbinson 2 Cor. 6. 17. 1 John 5. 21. Jude 23. 1 Sam. 2. 17. 1 Cor. 11. 20. 14. 26. explained THE 10th Argument against hearing the present Ministers is in S. T. thus formed God calls his People out of and strictly chargeth them not to go ro the place of False Worship Hos 4. 5. Amos 4. 4. Therefore 't is unlawful for the Saints to attend upon the present Ministers of England The Reason of the Consequence is because we cannot go to hear them without we go to the Places and Assemblies of false Worship as the Common-Prayer-Book-Worship hath been proved to be To which Mr. T. replies Sect. 7. 1st This Argument is bottom'd upon this Opinion That all Monuments of Idolatry all Temples Altars Chappels dedicated by the Heathens or Antichristians to their false Worship ought by lawful Authority to be rased and
so great the action it self casting contempt upon the Institutions of Christ they are guilty hereof And thus far in Reply to Mr. T. his Answers to Arguments and Questions proposed His next attempt is to make good the Catasceuastick part of this Dispute how well he dischargeth that Province shall be considered in the next Chapter CHAP. XI Sect. 1. Mat. 23. 1 2. explained Mr. T. his two Arguments drawn from thence to prove the lawfulness of hearing the present Ministers refuted Whether the Scribes and Pharisees were Teachers and Expounders of the Law Mr. T. his proofs thereof examined The Titles of Rabbi Doctor Master Father 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 not peculiar to Ecclesiastical Officers Of their paying Tythes Mat. 12. 18. If they were Ministers they were lawful Ministers proved Christ doth not command or permit his Disciples to hear them demonstrated Of the true reading of the words Mr. T. his mistakes manifested THE first attempt of Mr. T. in his 10th Chap. is to vindicate the Arguments produced by others mentioned in S. T. as Objections against the Truth contended for therein from the Answers we have given thereunto The first whereof is thus proposed Object 1. Christ commands or at least permits his Disciples to hear the Scribes and Pharisees who were men as corrupt in their Doctrine as vitious in their Lives as the present Ministers of England can be supposed to be Mat. 23. 1 2. Therefore its lawful to hear these The Animadverter after many words which our present hast admits not our stay to consider of nor is it at all necessary that we should do so draws up a twofold Argument from this Scripture Arg. 1. That hearing of Ministers against which there is no more just exception than was against the hearing the Scribes and Pharisees is lawfull for Christian Saints now But there is no more just exception against hearing the present Ministers of England than was against hearing the Scribes and Pharisees Therefore Answ 1. We deny the Major Proposition to the proof whereof we say That Christ allowed not his Disciples to hear the Scribes and Pharisees as we prove in S. T. 2. The Minor also is short of Truth to the proof where of we say That the Exceptions against the present Ministers are upon some accounts greater and more just than against the Scribes and Pharisees Neither of which he attempts the proof of but prays it may be granted him which upon these terms will never be the contrary we afterwards manifest Arg. 2. That which warranted Christs Disciples hearing the Scribes and Pharisees notwithstanding other defects warrants the Saints hearing the present Ministers of England notwithstanding other defects But the Scribes and Pharisees preaching the will of God warranted Christs Disciples hearing the Scribes and Pharisees notwithstanding other defects Therefore Answ 1. By the very same Argument the lawfulness of hearing the Priests of Rome the Friars may be evinced for they preach some some Truth 2. We deny his Minor and to the proof thereof say 1st That sitting in Moses Chair is their teaching the observation of Gods Laws is begg'd by him without the least tender of proof So is 2dly That Christ therefore permitts the Disciples to hear them because they so taught And 3dly That he allowed the hearing them a◠all Each of which is denied by us and fail he in the proof thereof his Argument sinks of it self as he himself knows To the Objection as proposed by us which contains the sum of Mr. T. his two Arguments we answer in S. T. That there are some things which the Objectors take for granted which are the very Basis upon which the stress of the Objection lies that will never be proved As 1st 'T is supposed that the Scribes and Pharisees here spoken of were in the Ministerial Seat Teachers and Expounders of the Law Some of them 't is granted were these here mentioned are said to sit in Moses Seat which was the Magistratical Seat to the Posterity of Aaron the Office of Priesthood did appertain and are condemned for neglecting Judgment and Mercy things most nearly relating to the Office of Magistracy Now 't will not in the least follow that supposing Christ enjoyned his Disciples to attend upon the Scribes and Pharisees acting as Magistrates and conform to what is justly and righteously prescribed by them as such that therefore 't is lawful to attend upon the present Ministers To which Mr. T. Sect. 2. 'T is supposed that the Scribes and Pharisees here spoken of were Teachers and Expounders of the Law which he attempts the proof of 1. Because vers 4. 't is said They bind heavy burdens and lay them on mens shoulders Answ But Mr. T. should have proved that they did this as expounders of the Law and not as Magistrates by civil sanctions till when he saith nothing 2. They affected to be called of men Rabbi Masters Fathers Leaders vers 8 9 10. Answ What then This is no proof that they were Ecclesiastical Officers 1. They might affect these Titles and not have them 2. Others besides such who were Expounders of the Law had them given to them 1st The very words that were spoken at the time of the Investment of any into the Title of Rabbi viz. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Behold thou art promoted and there is power given to thee of exercising capital Judgments which I am sure appertained not to them as Expounders of the Law abundantly evince that that Title was given to those that had authority in things Civil As is the Title 2dly Of Master Exod. 1. 11. 1 Sam. 26. 16. 2 Sam. 2. 7. 2 King 10. 2 3 6. 1 Sam. 29. 4. 2 King 9. 31. 19. 4. 1 Chr. 12. 19. 3dly Of Father 1 Sam. 24. 12. 1 King 5. 13. 16. 7. In which sense Machir is said to be the Father of Gilhad i. e. the Prince of that Country 1 Chr. 2. 21 23. And David is called the Father of the Jews Mark 11. 10. Nor 4thly Is it necessary that we restrain the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Leaders to Ecclesiastical Leaders or Guides when it may as propperly be referred to Civil Rulers 5thly The Title 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Doctors or Teachers he tells us is translated Master in Israel Joh. 3. being applied there to Nichodemus who was a Ruler of the Jews i. e. a Civil Ruler amongst them The other Title 6thly 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Blind Guides or Captains there is no necessity that we refer to Ecclesiastical Rulers so that hitherto he fails of the proof of his Assertion He adds 2dly They were not Priests for they paid Tythes vers 23. Answ 1. This upon the present supposition makes rather for than against us If they were not Priests 't is the more probable they were not Teachers of the People who were to seek the Law at their mouthes Mal. 2. 7. And if his Argument be good they were not Priests because they paid Tythes whereas the Priests
trial for satisfaction He further argues Arg. 29. This Author Chap. 2. allows the hearing gifted Brethren He would not think it unlawful to hear Parents or Masters catechize or Readers in the University when they read Divinity Lectures Therefore by a like reason must allow hearing the present Ministers Answ This consequence we deny there is no parity or likeness of Reason in it why we cannot hear them as gifted Brethren we have manifested Chap. 2. There are more reasons against hearing them than against hearing Parents catechize as their acting from an Antichristian Call or Readers in the University to which I go not as to a part of instituted Worship but School-Exercise That they are ordain'd according to the Discipline of the Church in which they live is nothing at all for their commendation except that Church were a true Church or the Discipline thereof more different from the Discipline of Rome than it is His thirtieth Argument is not worth the mentioning That our Arguments may be retorted upon our selves is not improbable any mans Arguments may be so The difficulty lies in proving the justness of their retortion which when he shall be able to effect Erit mihi Magnus Apollo To dictâ—te that Ordination by other Ministers besides the Elders of their own Congregation is necessary for the constitution of a Gospel-Ministry that the Church of England is a true Church or that separation from a company of wicked and ungodly persons is not warrantable by Scripture when we have proved the contrary is to expose himself to the pitie or contempt of the judicious Arg. 31. The grounds upon which the Author of S. T. and other Separatists deny the unlawfulness of hearing the present Ministers are neither false nor doubtful That nothing is to be done in the Worship of God and Church-Discipline relating to it as the Worship of God without a particular Institution we have abundantly before proved Arg. 32. That the Ministers of England have proved the truth of their Ministry against Papists and Separatists That the Prelates have so opposed Popery that were not men resolved never to lay down a calumny they have once taken up they would not cry them down as Antichristian Popish is but what he at present thinks They have opposed the person of the Pope and retained his Laws and Canons They oppose the Pope of Rome and his Conclave and set up and maintain the Pope of Canterbury and his Hierarchy against whom the very Arguments they use against the Pope â—f Rome directly point Arg. 33. The absurdities will follow upon denying to hear the present Ministers because not rightly elected or because they use the Common-Prayer-Book or are faulty in their lives are either not such or really follow not thereupon Answ 1. Every Christian Reader is able to judge of at leâ—st some of the Reasons in the S. T. whether they can warrant his not-hearing 2. He must be able to judge every Minister he hears whether he be rightly elected but this his judgment may proceed from the information of the Church to which the Minister is related or if his Minister he tries and judgeth with the Church as a Member thereof which gives not Authority to individual Hearers but to the Church or rather Christ Jesus who hath entrusted the Keys of the Kingdom of Heaven with them over their Ministers Much less 3. must every individual hearer have power to silence or withdraw from his Minâ—ster This he hath power to do and this he ought to do with respect to the Pastor of that Church to which he is related if he knows any sin or evil upon him to admonish him and in case of perseverance therein to take two or three with him and again admonish him and if he remain obstinate to bring it before the Church who have power if he will not hear them to depose him If he be a Pastor of some other Church to which he is not as a particular Member related to bring iâ— to the Elders of that Church or some Brother of known integrity appertaining thereunto who is to observe the same Rules already minded which would not introduce oppression upon Ministers nor will they if truly Christian account the execution of the Righteous Laws of Christ to be so The Scepter of his Kingdom is a right Scepter To compare the corrupt bloody Popish Canons herewith is little less than blasphemy 4. That hereby there should be any danger of Gospel-Mâ—nisters being exposed to penury deserted of their Members is not likely 5. That there can be no setled Government in Church or State if the stated Ministers according to the present Laws should be deserted or disobeyed is a false and bloody assertion Arg. 34. That such a Plea as this is made by the Papists for their Recusancy we have already answered Arg. 35. To this we say 1. Christ hath debar'd us from hearing the present Ministers as we have at large proved 2. Whilst we press men to an obedience to the Voice of Christ we make not men Rabbies it hath not the least tendency thereunto but Christ Nor are we against hearing any whom Christ in his Royal Law forbids us not to hear Arg. 36. To this we say Not to hear the present Ministers is no Negative Superstition 't is built upon Divine Precept as we have proved it occasions not the neglect of Gods Command he beggs the Question whilst he supposeth it or any duty of love incumbent upon the Saints It begets not unnecessary perplexities in mens Spirits nor puffs them up with conceit of more holiness than others nor causeth them to be censorious of others Nor hath Mr. T. proved these things to be so or the consequent of the Opinion contended for The whole of his 37th Argument That the denying the hearing the present Ministers is a usurpation of Christs Regal Office in putting a Law on the Consciences of men arrogating that power which is proper to Christ James 4. 12. Mat. 23. 4. is a meer calumnie Nor is the Animadverter able to prove what he saith nor hath he so much as attempted so to do We have demonstrated that the non-hearing the present Ministers is no imposition of our own but a Yoke of Christ We forbid not any to hear Preachers of the Gospel but such as pretend to be so and are not To his 38th Argument we answer By this means the knowledge of the Word of God is not at all hindred nor the furthering his Kingdom neglected but the contrary 'T is not true that those who hold the Opinion of not hearing the present Ministers in publick think it enough if they can teach those of their own Society they are willing to instruct others also which they do as they have opportunity That 't is seldom by conference that we insâ—ill any truths into others without somewhat that alienates them from others and engageth them to our own Society with diminution of love to others is a most false
of God in opposition to any National-Church or Churches whatsoever are of the appointment of Christ Acts 1. 13. 12. 1. 13. 14. 15. 22. 18. 22. 20. 14 28. 1 Cor. 1. 2. 6. 4. Acts 9. 1. 1 Cor. 16. 19 Rom. 16. 4. 2 Cor. 8. 1. Gal. 1. 2. Acts 16. 4 5. 14. 23. 1 Cor. 11. 16. 14. 4 5 12 19. 2 Cor. 1. 1. Rev. 1. 2 3 11. To which Mr. T. Sect. 3. 'T is questionable whether Acts 15. 22. 18. 17. be not a Provincial Church Answ 1. Of this we have formerly spoken 2. That it was the particular Church of Corinth v. 2 4 12 22 23 25. evince 3. That a Provincial Church had not as yet a being in the World Mr. T. knows and we have proved Chap. 1. Sect. 13. The same line of Interpretation is to be drawn over Acts 18. 22. for that he intends instead of v. 17. The Texts he grants mention Churches in several Cities and Provinces but he questions Whether they were by their voluntary agreement under Pastors of their own choice gathered into one Body for the celebration of the Worship of God They are call'd the Church of such a City as of Jerusalem from their Habitation where they had many meetings from House to House for celebration of Worship as Acts 2. 46 47. Answ That there is any thing of weight in this Answer none will imagine but Mr. T. 1. 'T is built upon this rotten Foundation that the particular form of Churches is not of the Institution of Christ of which we have at large treated Chap. 1. of this Treatise 2. It plainly contradicts the Spirit of the Lord speaking in some of the Scriptures mentioned He questions he saith whether they were by voluntary agreement gathered together into one Body But this the Spirit of the Lord affirms Acts 2. 41. 2 Cor. 8. 5. Nor can it be otherwise there was no external force or Law to compel them thereunto Whether they were under particular Officers of their own see Acts 20. 28. 15. 4. 23. 21. 18. that these were chosen by themselves that the Church consisted of no greater a number than could meet together 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in the same place to worship God in the same numerical Ordinances we have before demonstrated The reason why there were not more Congregations than one in a City was because that the multitude of Disciples was not so great but that they might so do No wonder that we read onely of the Elders of the Church Acts 15. 4 23. when there was but one Church at Jerusalem none ever pleaded for one's being an Elder of one part of the Church another of another but such as assert Provincial-National-Churches with us he that is an Elder to a part is an Elder to the whole That the Churches mentioned in the Scriptures instâ—nced in were not particular Independent Churches Mr. T. attempts not the proof of What he adds from 1 Cor. 12. 28. is already answered nor is there any thing more in this matter replied by him that requires our stay 'T is added in S. T. 4thly That Christ hath appointed Officers of his own to act in the holy things of God in and over these Assemblies whom he furnisheth with gifts every way suiting their imployment to whom without turning aside to the voice of strangers or attending upon the Ministry of such as are not of his appointment ' it s the duty of Saints to hearâ—en is very evident from Ephes 4. 11. Heb. 13. 7 13. Mat. 24. 4 5 23 24. 1 John 2. 18. 4. 1. 2 John 10. Acts 20. 29 30 31. Rev. 2. 14 15 16. Which exactly agrees with what was practised by Primitive Believers who it seems received none without the testimony of some Brethren of known Integrity in the Churches 1 Cor. 16. 3. Acts 9. 26. To which Mr. T. 1. That Christ hath appointed Officers of his own and furnished them with gifts whom we are to follow and obey in opposition to the Ministry of strangers viz. Such as are deceivers false-teachers Antichrists he grants which being the substance of what is pleaded for at present with his subsequent Discourse we are little concern'd Whether we have proved the Ministers of England to be deceivers the judicious Reader will determine and if such Mr. T. grants we have proved they are not to be heard Whether Christ hath appointed Officers to the Universal Church or appropriated them to particular Congregations is not of our present disquisition The forâ—er Mr. T. hath not demonstrated The latter we have in part evinced Chap. 1. Sect. 15. To which may be added If by virtue of Christs appointment Ministers are not fixed to particular Congregations then Ministers are no more by virtue of Christs appointment Ministers of this Company or Flock of Christians than of another which is expresly contrary to Acts 20. 28. 2. Then either Ministers have no Authority over this or that particular Flock to which as such they minister or if so they have as much authority over every particular society of Christians to whom they providentially preach and this without their actual consent which is absurd and tyrannical 3. Then no Church can claim by virtue of Divine appointment a greater right and Interest in one Minister than in another nor is any by virtue of such an appointment more obliged to minister to them then to others though we deny not but the gifts given to Ministers to Brethren are given for the Edification of all Christians amongst whom by the Providence of God they are cast which they are bound for that end to improve nor that its unlawful to hear others besides Pastors of Congregational Churches we assert the contrary in the Treatise he undertakes to confute Yet doth it not hence in the least follow that we may lawfully hear the present Ministers we have proved the contrary the non-attendment upon whom tends not to the decay of Spiritual Life it promotes it rather We say in S. T. That the hearing the present Ministers pours forth contempt upon each of these Institutions of Christ It supposeth 1st That separation from the Assemblies of England though in their Constitution carnal and worldly and the Worship thereof although false and meerly of Humane Invention was and is our sin and evil 2dly That it 's not by virtue of any Institution of Christ the duty of Saints to meet together as a Body distinct without going out to other Assemblies to worship with them for their mutual edification 3dly That particular Assemblies are not solely of the Institution of Christ but that National Churches are also to be accounted true Churches of Christ 4. That the Officers of Christs appointment are not sufficient for the Saints but together with them the help of false and Idol Shepherds is to be sought after Than which what greater contempt can be poured forth upon the forementioned Institutions of our dear Lord. The