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A75767 Davids enemies discovered. VVho of him make songs, but without the Spirit and without understanding, as the drunkard did which he declares of in Psal. 69.12. Or, a true discovery of that custome and forme which the priests of this generation would make an ordinance of, to blind the eyes of the simple, as this priest Clapham: in his 6 arguments, which is here answered, / by us who suffer for the truth, whose names according to the flesh are [brace] Christopher Atkinson. George Whitehead. Also a brief reply unto Frederick Woodall's three principles and resolves; and with replies to his answers, to several queries propounded to him, that to the simple the truth may be cleared, from one who for the captivated seeds sake suffers now in outward bonds in Norwitch Castle, whose name in the flesh is Richard Hubberthorne. Atkinson, Christopher.; Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723.; Hubberthorn, Richard, 1628-1662. 1655 (1655) Wing A4126; Thomason E830_10; ESTC R202144 16,205 23

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DAVIDS Enemies discovered Who of him make SONGS but without the Spirit and without understanding as the Drunkard did which he declares of in Psal. 69. 12. OR A TRUE DISCOVERY of that Custome and Forme which the PRIESTS of this Generation would make an Ordinance of to blind the eyes of the simple as this priest Clapham in his 6 Arguments which is here answered by us who suffer for the Truth whose names according to the flesh are Christopher Atkinson George Whitehead Also a brief REPLY unto Frederick Woodall's three Principles and Resolves and with Replies to his Answers to severall Queries propounded to him that to the simple the truth may be cleared from one who for the Captivated seeds sake suffers now in outward bonds in Norwitch Castle whose name in the flesh is Richard Hubberthorne LONDON Printed for Giles Calvert at the Black spread 〈…〉 West end of Pauls 1655. A Paper being brought into our hands which was given forth by one of the Priests whose name is Jonathan Clapham who to uphold his deceit and Imaginations and carnall observatirns In imitation from that which the true worshippers which worshipped in spirit and truth without for me or letter witnessed and spoke forth when redemption they did see and so were they hid from such as would make a Custome and a trade upon what they spoke forth who lived the life of what they sung and spoke in the spirit who lived not in Custome nor in Imitation of others neither did they boast themselves in another mans Line made ready to their hands but as they received the spirit so walked they in the spirit and with it they sang and by it they spoke and by the spirit they knew what time it did signifie and such as was sensuall who had not the spirit but the forme they denied and witnessed against them and such now with the same spirit do we witness against and to clear the truth and lay open the deceit of this generation of Priests who make a Custome and a trade of Scriptures who take peoples money for that which is no bread but for dishonest gain destroyes souls and keeps poor people in blindness and darkness by their Inventions and vain Imaginations that under their Dark Ministry poor people are ever learning never able to come to the knowledge of the truth and for their sakes who by these blind guides are led in blindness Are we moved to answer something to this Priest Clapham's Arguments as he calles them that they that never saw might see his nakedness uncovered by which Arguments he is going about to maintain singing of David's conditions a Custome which are Answered as followeth c. SInging of Psalmes was once an Ordinance of God in the Church and a part of divine worship and 1 was never repealed under the Gospell 2 nor was of a Tipicall nature and use as was the ceremonies and to cease with them 3 but ever reckoned among morrall and perpetuall duties as prayer and learning the word see Psal. 59. 1 2 6 7. 4 such a duty as the very light in all men taught them to practice witness the custome of all nations See Godwin Rom. Antiqu. and read Homer's himnes Horaces odes c. which sheweth it to be of an universall and perpetuall obligation therefore it continues an ordinance of God still as well as prayer and learning the word and should not be abolished under the Gospel They who witnesse the Gospell are come to the ministration of the spirit which is the end of all shadowes which shadowed forth the life who came to witness the Church in God 1 Thes. 1 and of this church the saints were ordained members and this church was not a temple made with hands where once singing was which was to cease with its worship and the songs of that temple was to be turned into Howling Amos 8. 3. but they who are members of the church which is in God they sing with one spirit being thereunto called by the Lord which was not morall but spirituall and they did not bring old Authors to prove their Actions by as thou doest but in that they worshipped which was before Authours was and before Oxford and Cambridge was which thou and thy generation have your Ministry f●om and their word and Gospell was not the letter which thou and thy generation makes a trade upon and by the same spirit they sang by which the Gospell was preached and there was no division and they made not a Custome of other mens conditions as to get them into rime and meeter and give them forth unto a company of blind people as thou and thy generation do and their singing was with the spirit and with understanding which we owne but thee we do deny and all thy generation wo give people Davids conditions to sing in a meeter where David did mourn and where he was afflicted ye sing and where he quaked and trembled and prayed and prophesied these ye sing tell God you do so and here you make a custome like a stage play upon Davids conditions and scoffs and scornes at them now who witnesse Quaking and trembling and this we deny for this is both without the spirit and without understanding The prophesies in Scripture that foretell the state of the Church in the new Testament do speak of Psalmes to be used there as a part of Gods worship Psal. 98. 1 2. Psal. 100. 1 2. Psal. 100. 1 2 3. where mention is made of the Gentiles when converted singng Psalmes to God Rom. 15. 9. see Isa. 26. 1. and 35. 10. Rev. 14. 5. and 15. 3. The prophesies in scripture that foretell the state of the church do not prophesie as psalmes to be used as a part of Gods worship nor such a word there is spoken in them for the prophesies were fulfilled when the end came and the church was the life of that which the prophets prophesied of which was without spot or wrinckle and the songs of this church are everlasting and they who are come thither can sing a new song for the salvation which they are witnesses of Psal. 98. 1 2. and they can sing the song of redemption and the song of Moses and of the Lamb which no man can learn but they that are redeemed from the earth and they that have the new name Rev. 14. 3 4. and this song can neither thou sing who art in the earth and in thy earthly nature and ministers for the earth and to the earth in Balaams way for gifts and rewards nor them to whom thou gives Davids conditions who are not brought to see the day of bitterness and lamentation which the saints did witness before they came to see salvation and redemption for which they praysed God which salvation and testament to the end that generation is hid who live in the wild prophane and heady nature without the fear of God who are in the time of wantonness and laughter
doth bear witness in the conscience and either accuse or excuse but is one in the covenant spoken of in Jer. 31. 33. Heb. 8. 2. and here thou puts in Light for darknesse and darkness for light Priest Again thou speaks of two Images the Image of God and Image of Christ and saith something of the Image of God remains after the fall and brings Cer. 6. 9. to witness it when as there is no such thing spoken of there and thou sayest nothing of the Image of Christ is found before calling Answer Here thou would make God and Christ two images and so utters forth one lye after another and denies the Scripture which saith he is the express Image of the Father and thou sayest the first Image is naturall the second is spirituall and here let all behold thy blasphemy who would make the Image of God naturall and the Image of Christ spirituall and calls them two Images stop thy mouth and be ashamed for ever for being a Teacher who seeks to resolve people of such things as to deny God and Christ and make them two Images the one naturall and the other spirituall and saith something of the image of God is found in man after the fall but nothing of the Image of Christ O blinde guide that ever England should be deceived by such but the Lord is now making you manifest and in the light thou art comprehended and thy subtlety is seen and thou art now met withall who hath long blinded the eyes of poor people with thy fained words and subtle pretences but here thou art discovered to be an enemy to that which in word thou professes and so thy words will cover thee no longer for the life hath found thee out and by it thy spirit is tryed to be the spirit of errour and voice to be the voice a stranger Priest Again thou speaks of a naturall light and sayes naturall Light puffs up and quotes 1 Cor. 8. 1●2 Answer Here out of thy own mouth thou art proved to be a perverter of the scriptures for that scripture saith knowledge puffs up but the Scripture speaks of no naturall light Priest Again thou sayst naturall light discovers the blessing of the first Covenant Answer This is false for all the blessings is to the seed which is in the Covenant and is the Covenant but nature is out of the Covenant and out of the blessing of all thy resolves and light is contrary to nature for light is spirituall but thou art naturall who saith the light is naturall Priest Again thou sayest naturall light may convince of evill Answer This is false and here thou art a Blasphemer to call Christ naturall for it is Christ that convinceth the world of sin and the light which Christ Jesus hath enlighted every one with all which convinceth them of evill and thou that sayest this is naturall did never yet owne that which doth convince of sin the Light which will condemn thee who hates it and calls it naturall A Reply to the Priests Answers to the Queries propounded to him The 1 Querie How is Christ the light of the world and how doth he enlighten every one that comes into the world if it be not in the Conscience John 1. 9. Priests Answer Jesus Christ enlighteneth every man with the light he hath he is indeed the enlightening light and not John but it will not prove because Christ quickeneth that therefore with the same life or there is no naturall life for Christ Saints light is the light of life sinners not so not their life Reply In the light of Christ thou art seen and comprehended for thy dark words cannot hide thy confusion who in thy answer saith Christ doth enlighten every man that comes into the world and then would make the light of Christ which enlightens the sinner not to be the same light which is in the saints and here all who ownes light in any measure may see thy confusion for the light of Christ is but one and it is through the obedience to the light in which they come to witness sanctification from sin which now many do witness to the praise and glory of God who is their teacher what hast thou Frederick Woodall taught the people all this while who art a blind guide for he that knowes not the light of Christ is blind for darkness hath blinded his eyes The 2 Querie How doth the spirit of Christ guide unto all truth and shew things to come if it be not within the conscience Priests Answer This endeavours the removall of the Ancient Bonds making common the priviledges of the Saints and brings that Scripture Jer. 24. 7. Reply This Scripture Jer. 24. 7. shall stand to bear witness against thy self where the Lord saith I will give them an heart to know me that I am the Lord and they shall be my people and I will be their God and the promise of Christ wherein he hath promised the spirit to guide them into all truth and to shew them things to come and this thou sayest endeavours the removing of the Ancient bonds I answer It is to remove all such doctrine and such teaching as thine and the priests of the world under which the seed of God is kept in bondage and under the chains of darknesse and these thy bonds which thou layest upon the seed is as Ancient as since the fall and hath kept people ever learning and never brought them to the knowledge of God and now when God hath promised to give them an heart to know him without such teachers as thou art and this is thy torment but let this tormen thee for ever till thy mouth be stopped for it is so we witnesse it The 3 Query How doth the spirit of Christ reprove the world of sin of righteousness and of judgement if it be not in thy conscience Priests Answer It is not the spirit in the world that reproves the world of sin John 14. 17. but the spirit in the saints who are to Judge the world 1 Corinth 6. 2. the spirit in the saints by the light of truth Reply This thy answer and these Scriptures do witness against thy self and here thou art made to confess the truth out of thy own mouth thou may be judged as all who hate the light are and here by the spirit of God in the saints and the light of truth art thou judged and here if thou wilt owne thy own words owne thy Judgement for the saints do now judge the world under which judgement thou art The 4 Querie How are the children of God taught of God if it be not by the light of God in the conscience Priests Answer This is absurd as the second this is the strength you shall be all taught of God Reply It is thou that art dark and blind and obsurd who would keep the people from the teachings of God calling that absurd that thy own teaching might be continued and people be kept still in