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A05770	A toile for tvvo-legged foxes Wherein their noisome properties; their hunting and vnkenelling, with the duties of the principall hunters and guardians of the spirituall vineyard is liuelie discouered, for the comfort of all her Highnes trustie and true-hearted subiects, and their encouragement against all popish practises. By I. B. preacher of the word of God.	Baxter, J.	1600 (1600)	STC 1596; ESTC S112228	88,347	250

say to him as did Themistocles to a certaine od Seriphiā who obiected to Themistocles that his ●lory receiued greater brightnes from the renowne of his country then from the merit of his vertues not so said Themistocles for if I were a Seriphian I would not liue without renowne and if thou werest an Athenian thou couldest not liue without shame In like sort say if Saint Peter were at Rome he liued not like the Pope and if the Pope sit in Peters chaire he liues not like Saint Peter but euen as Neanthus hauing gotten Orpheus his harp iangled and iarred so long that whereas hee looked for the trees to skip he brought the dogges about his eares euen so the Pope hath so long boasted of Peters succession that the simple discerne his doublings and nouices in religion begin to espie his Iugling But some man will say is there the● no certaine visible place Whether there be any certaine place on which to builde our beliefe on which a Christian man may depend so farre as to say we must beleeue and doe that which is taught and commaunded in such a place Christ resolueth this demaund but answereth not that it is Rome or any other place but saith he where the dead bodie is thither the Eagle gather themselues together and what i● this dead bodie but Iesus Christ and him crucified besides which I wil know nothing saith the Apostle vnderstanding by the name of Christ his person and by the word of crucified all his sufferings for vs vntill that last crie of his which shaked both heauen and earth Math. 27. This concerneth doctrine Now for outward seruice heare him answering to the woman of Samaria whose demaund was Iohn 4. whether they should worship in the Temple of the Samaritanes or of the Iewes that for a time it was the Temple of Ierusalem and none other which God had chosen to be worshipped in But saith he the time is come that men shall worship neither in this mountaine nor in Ierusalem but the true worshippers shall worship in spirit and in truth that is to say they shall serue God with a pure spirituall worship without distinction of place By this I trust the ignorant shall be able to descry what the Catholcikes meane by their Church agreement as also how to keepe themselues vnsnared by such Moters as goe about to entangle them As for our selues we giue the Church of God all her true honour confessing that whosoeuer hath not this true ancient Catholike and Apostolike Church to his mother the same hath not God to his Father Councels consent a false chalenge of a Romane Catholike with a caueat how councels are to be gathered and receiued THe Catholiks make many a goodly Brauado and whosoeuer is willing to be deceiued may beleeue them vpon their bare words The ancient fathers in an holy wisedome haue called Councels as befitted their times for th● abandoning of heresies and establishing of truth such were these old Councels the first Nicene the Councel of Constantinople the first Ephesine and such like which we refuse not but theirs are latter and are n● better many of them then if th● whoremasters whores were gathere● together to take order for the stewes But let vs consider whether all Councels serue for a Catholickes comfort Many hundred yeares agoe the Councell of Constantinople decreed that Images placed in the Church should be ouerthrowne and dashed in peeces Councels cōdemning popish opinions The Councel held at Eliberis in Spaine in the time of Constantine decreed that women should not frequent vigils that Images should be banished out of the Church and that nothing should be painted on the wall to be worshipped The Councell of Gangrens accursed them that condēned the priests mariage The third Councell of Carthage decreed that the chiefe bishop should not be called the prince of priestes or highest priest but onely the bishop of the chiefe sea The Councell of Hippo decreed that the bishop of the head sea should not be called the chiefe priest that no scripture should be read in the Church but Canonicall In a Councell holden at the Citie of Pize both Gregory Benet were deposed Alexander the fifthe lected Pope they notwithstanding holding still the title of papalitie and so a lease of Popes vntill the comming of Constance At the Councell of Basil Pope Eugenius concluded an hereticke deposed and a Duke created Pope in his place Thus they crake much of the authoritie of a councell and bleare mens eies with so glorious a name when as indeed their drunken superstitions by them are vtterly condemned It is truly said of many Councels that In nomine Dei incipit omne malum How councels are Therefore are they to be receiued with this caueat tha● they be gathered in the name of Christ decree according to his rule aim● at his glory So shall they be no othe● wise receiued then they bring the iudgment of Christ and the Pope shall b● put to silence who for all shew of pr● and con will determine for his purpos● wheresoeuer he is president Gerson and Panormitanus not new protestants but ancient fathers being at the Councell of Basil where it wa● argued what authority a Councel hath decreed that we must rather beleeu● one simple man alledging the scripture than an whole Councell to the contrarie the thing it selfe is ratified in the grea● Nicene Councell where many woul● haue forbidden priestes mariage and onely Paphnutius being vnmaried alledging the scriptures which allow mariage in al men did euince the contrarie The harmonie of fathers a false motiue to poperie IT cannot be denied but many fathers stand hard for their Catholike ●eligion as father Piggius father Hosius ●ather Lombard father Thomas father ●cotus father Caietā Fathers pleading for the Romish religion one of the best Car●inals father Bellarmine father Staple●on and many more hireling villaines which are at the Popes pay which al●hough in many things they agree no ●etter then Herod and Pilate yet can ●hey consent to degrade Iesus Christ ●rom his office as well as the other did ●o bereaue him of his life So that you ●ee what a consent of fathers here is ●or the defence of a Pope-holy faith But there are other auncients as fa●her Moses father Dauid Esay Ieremie c. In a word our fathers are the Pa●riarches Prophets and Apostles and when they shall proue that we dissent from these auncient fathers that is our worship our faith is not builded vpon the foundation of the Prophets and Apostles as on the other side that theirs is then haue they spoke to the purpose Now if they meane by fathers consent to bring in Augustine Chrisostome Cyprian Basil Athanasius and the rest with one accord to make their plea for poperie then shamelesse beastes they are conuinced alreadie by the friendes of the bridegroome and confounded of their owne consciences if they haue any at all Lastly for this

point how farre the auncientest and holiest men next after the Apostles are to be listened vnto heare Augustine himself How farre the ancient fathers are to be harkened vnto by the iudgemēt of Augustine where he saith That the testimonies of Cyprian and Agrippinus are not to be alledged as if it were not lawfull otherwise to thinke if they perhaps shall speake otherwise then the truth doth require And in an other place he saith That we ought not to beleeue the Catholike Doctours if they shall auouch any thing contrarie to the Canonicall scriptures and confesseth that in his owne bookes many things may be found which without rashnes may iustly be censured Teachers credit a popish snare to entangle the ignorant and a baite to drawe them from searching of the scriptures O Foxes full of all subtiltie for hence it is that you haue forbidden the scriptures to be read in the vulgar tongue and such as all Christians vnderstand The common faith of the Catholike and moreouer haue taught ●t to be sufficient to beleeue what your Church beleeueth without inquisition what it is and to credit your teachers without search of the scriptures but pro●ided a man haue a good meaning re●erre himselfe to the articles of your ●aith kneele downe before a crucifix ●e apt to say an Aue Maria or a Pater ●oster O then behold a merit by and ●y atchieued Iohn 4.24 1. Cor. 16.13 Ephes 16. 1. Pet. 3.9 and Gods wrath appea●ed Is this to serue God in spirit and ●n truth Is this which you teach the ●aith by which we stand which must ●eat backe the fierie darts of the enemies namely to build vpon the affi●nce of Bellarmine Stapleton Allablaster Indeed if you could bring the matter to this passe that in stead of Sic dicit Dominus exercituum sic dicit Dominus Deus vester Papa that is in stead of thus saith the Lord of hostes thus saith your Lord God the Pope and in stead of os Domini locutum est The next way to make all the world papistes the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it Os Bellarminianum ve● Stapletonianū dixit the mouth of Bellarmine or Stapleton hath said it then is i● likely that all christendō shal be papists shortly nay Atheists perhaps for I am sure of all your teachers the Pope mus● haue the credit And then what if his holines be as deuoutly minded as Paul th● third Paulus 3. who lying on his death bed said he should shortly vnderstand whether there were a God in heauē or no wherof he had alwaies doubted or as Iohn 22. who taught that mens soules did sleepe with their bodies Iohn 22. Iohn 23. Atheists or Iohn the twentie three who taught that men died after the manner of beastes for which heresie and many more flagitious deeds he was depriued of his papall iurisdiction in Concilio Constantiensi What if the Pope were thus minded and so would proclaime it I say vndoubtedly all the world as noster magistellus Allablaster would beare vs in hand are bound to beleeue him But wee are taught to search the scriptures 1. Iohn 5. and to try the spirits both by commaundement and example by the light whereof all this your darknes hath been and shall be discouered Iohn 4. Vniuersalitie a false marke of the true Church THere are no greater deceiuers in the world then they who to discerne the true Church members whereof wee ought to be if we will be saued from the false from the which we ought to separate our selues if we will not be damned stand wholy vpon a multitude For if in worldly affaires more fooles are to be found then wise how is it then when the point concerneth supernaturall goodnes and wisedome If the aduersarie will not credit Christ himselfe speaking in plaine tearmes of the broad way which leadeth to destruction through which many passe and the narrow gate that leadeth vnto life which fewe doe finde yet perpetuall experience might better teach them then to stand vpon vniuersalitie as a marke of the true Church when the deluge came vpon the world The greater number the worser whether was paucitie or multitude a marke of the Church what was Abrahams house in comparison of the Cananites what was Israell to comprise hypocrites in the number in respect of the whole world what Church was the multitude a marke of when Christ being in the earth in his person the rulers reiected him and the multitude cryed away with him away with him crucifie him crucifie him what multitude was the number of sixescore persons when the Christian Church began To conclude when these proude boasters of their great numbers shall well haue counted what they are in comparison of the rest of the world which acknowledge not the Messias then may they proue if they will not maliciously erre that the multitude is rather to be suspected then reckoned a true note of the true Church Antiquitie of religion a vaine brag of Romaine Catholickes MEn time without mind haue accustomed to commend them●●lues vnder the name of antiquitie specially vnto the ignorant whose ●gnorance also they doe abuse and ●●us it commeth to passe by Gods iust ●●dgment that they who will not suffer ●hemselues to be taught take many ●●mes that for latter which was for●er and for new which is old such are ●●ey of whom Peter speaketh who said ●f that time when a man spake vnto ●●ē concerning the comming of Christ 〈◊〉 iudge the world that all things were ●s they are now since the first fathers ●hich thing is false saith he 2. Pet. 3.4 for they ●●ould know that the world was not ●reated in such sort as now it is and ●hat God hath alreadie executed an ●orrible Iudgment on the corruption ●hereof Ier. 44.17 In like sorte they reproched ●eremie that he had mard all with his ●ew preaching yea and when they ●eare Christ himselfe they say what kinde of new doctrine is this Mark 1.17 Iohn 5.39 but he bids them search the scriptures for they speak of him In like sort say these great asses that will know nothing what new doctrine is this you teach where was the new Church of yours threescore yeares ago before Luther ran out and like a fugitiue fled from his mother behold their common language We answere them that primum quodque verissimum The protestants would that the prophets Christ and his Apostles should end all controuersies And we will appeale vnto Moses Dauid the prophets apostles and auncient fathers to be tried for the antiquitie of our religion if they dare put the controuersie by them to be ended Looke what forme of seruice was in the Tabernacle and Salomons temple in their time and whether it commeth nearer our seruice or the Popes portuis they read Moses and the prophets and expounded them and doe not we so we haue nothing touching the substance of religion but we are able