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A52688 A few words in answer to the resolves of some who are called independant-teachers whose gospel and ministry appears to depend upon tythes, or as full a maintenance secured to them by a carnal law, as appears from their own mouths in their judgements, and desires to the present rulers, delivered as followeth / by James Naylor. Naylor, James, 1617?-1660. 1659 (1659) Wing N278; ESTC R16745 6,557 9

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A FEW WORDS in answer to the RESOLVES of some who are called ●NDEPENDANT-TEACHERS Whose Gospel and Ministry appears to depend upon Tythes or as full a maintenance secured to them by a Carnal Law as appears from their own mouths in their judgements and desires to the present Rulers delivered as followeth By JAMES NAYLOR LONDON ●●inted for Thomas Simmons at the Bull and Mouth near Aldersgate 1659. FIRST we judge a Parliament the best expedient for the prese●vation of these Nations Answ The best expedient for the preserving of the Nation is for all people in the Nations to turn to God that with his light you may be led to repentance and newness of life that that may be done away in every heart for which the wrath of God comes upon Nations and People and whilest people are out from the Light of Christ in their own hearts such are looking to the Hills and Mountains for safty and peace some for Kings and some for Parliaments while wrath and lust encreases in your own hearts and it is that within you will destroy you while your eyes are abroad for safety 2. And withal we desire all due care be taken that the Parliament be such as may preserve the interest of Christ and his people in these Nations Ans The chief interest of Christ in these Nations and elsewhere upon earth is his spiritual dominion in the consciences of people And that there he be confessed to be absolute King and Law-giver to whom alone every heart is to bow and every Tongue confesle and that the Wills and Laws of men usurp not authority therein but that he by his spirit exercise the conscience in all things to God and men and this is his interest which he is now demanding as his birth-right in his people both from Kings Parliaments and such as was called Protectors and who ever Rules amongst men which being denyed him his wrath hath been kindled in their Kingdom and it greatly concerns all that come into authority as they look to stand before him that this his Interest be preserved and this interest of his people also which is to have free liberty to obey him in their conscience in all his spiritual motions though never so much contrary to flesh and blood and if the Parliament be such it must not be made up of old persecutors nor new but be men of feeling fearing God and tender in conscience and above all they must take heed of lending an ear to the wicked Councel of such Teachers as serve not the Lord Jesus Christ but their own bellies which have been the cause of all the blood and persecution that hath been shed in this our generation who never cease to provoke the Magistrates to establish mischief by a law chiefly against this interest of Christ and his people of which number you appear to be in your following desires 3. As to Magistrates power in matters of Faith and Worship we have declared our judgements in our late confession and we heartily prize our Christian liberty yet we professe our utter dislike and abborrence of an universal tolleration as being contrary to the mind of God in his word A. What your judgment in your late confession was I know not but you might do wel to shew your judgment in plainnes what this universal Toleration is wch you dislike abhor whether it be that you abhor that any should be tollerated but your own Sect or such as are to near you to testify against your errors if this be it as like it is then it is too selfish to be sound judgment or safe counsel to be followed being against the rule of Christ do to all men as you would be done unto or would you have tolleration to none but such as are in the true power of Spirit and true form of found words written in Scripture this were to wipe out your selves and bring in those against whom you profess your enmity in your last particular to wit the Quakers who at this day have both power of Spirit and Le●●er against you as to both your call your whole form of Worship and the manner of your hire being such as no true Ministers of Christ ever practised wherein the Quakers and you differ or do you onely intend against tolleration of open profaneness which none that loves Christ or his interest will plead for in this I am one with you but if by Universal Tolleration you intend that the Magistrate should limit the Spirit of Christ in any of his Creatures because his way is not your way but against false wayes and false worships as he moves them to bear his testimony as in former times he hath done in the true Prophets and Ministers against the false then is your Spirit seen to be the same that theirs was who ever sought to stop the Mouth of Truth least their deceit should be laid open and that is that which ever was against the interest of Christ and the mind of God in his word and it will not be an easie thing for men to limit the Holy Spirit in its movings or to measure a way to him whose way you know not flesh and blood must be silent which would fill a cup to another which you would not drink your selves and the Spirit must speak ere you can know either mind or word that is in God 4. We judge that the taking away Tithes for the maintenance of Ministers until as full a maintinance equally secured and as Legally setled and much to the distruction of the Ministry and Preaching of the Gospel in these Nations Ans This is your judgement and you may be believed herein being now upon the mark you aim at and the price of your calling and Preaching in these Nations and you do but here declare in words what all the seeing people in these Nations did foreknow was in your hearts but the word Gospel you cannot bring in with this carnal stuff that 's taken from you and must no longer cover you what will the Gospel be destroyed for lack of Tithes or a maintenance secured from a forcible Law blush for shame it was never known that forced hire or agreement before-hand had ever the least place in the free Gospel Ministry This cannot stand with a spiritual call nor free gift nay it exceeds the Legal priesthood and false Prophets and goes beyond Balaam in errour what either Tithes or as full as Tithes so secured and by the same law must Papists laws up still or els the Gospel falls This is none of Christs Gospel that thus depends nor is this the hire of his Servants whose reward it is to make the Gospel without charge was it ever known that any of his seed came to the earthly powers to beg their bread or to take it by force doth he thus maintain his family doth not such a servant shame the Masters house yea Friends all who knows the power of his free Grace and the riches