Selected quad for the lemma: truth_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
truth_n	spirit_n	true_a	worshipper_n	5,073	5	12.1898	5	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A85045	A discourse of the visible church. In a large debate of this famous question, viz. whether the visible church may be considered to be truely a church of Christ without respect to saving grace? Affirm. Whereunto is added a brief discussion of these three questions. viz. 1. What doth constitute visible church-membership. 2. What doth distinguish it, or render it visible. 3. What doth destroy it, or render it null? Together with a large application of the whole, by way of inference to our churches, sacraments, and censures. Also an appendix touching confirmation, occasioned by the Reverend Mr. Hanmore his pious and learned exercitation of confirmation. By Francis Fulwood minister of the gospel at West-Alvington in Devon.	Fullwood, Francis, d. 1693.	1658 (1658)	Wing F2500; Thomason E947_3; ESTC R207619	279,090	362

their_o opinion_n with_o those_o that_o direct_o and_o in_o very_a term_n renounce_v it_o so_o neither_o savour_v it_o of_o much_o charity_n or_o indeed_o justice_n that_o wicked_a man_n that_o direct_o profess_v the_o faith_n both_o vocal_o with_o their_o mouth_n and_o real_o by_o attend_v on_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n be_v equal_o condemn_v with_o apostate_n and_o heretic_n that_o raze_v the_o very_a foundation_n of_o all_o religion_n though_o in_o work_n they_o deny_v he_o therefore_o such_o as_o stand_v baptize_v into_o the_o faith_n of_o christ_n and_o yet_o remain_v in_o visible_a communion_n with_o the_o church_n and_o do_v not_o renounce_v the_o faith_n of_o christ_n either_o with_o their_o mouth_n or_o in_o the_o intent_n and_o purpose_n of_o their_o heart_n can_v only_o by_o their_o disobedience_n or_o wicked_a life_n as_o i_o shall_v anon_o labour_v to_o prove_v unchurch_n themselves_o or_o declare_v themselves_o as_o some_o will_v rather_o say_v to_o be_v no_o true_a 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god_n joh._n 1._o 34._o so_o nathael_n profess_v say_v thou_o be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n v._o 49._o but_o most_o remarkable_a be_v that_o eminent_a profession_n of_o peter_n with_o loc_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la super_fw-la have_v firmam_fw-la confessionem_fw-la tuam_fw-la qua_fw-la confiteris_fw-la &_o credis_fw-la i_o esse_fw-la christum_fw-la filium_fw-la dei_fw-la viventis_fw-la edificabo_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la meam_fw-la as_o bucer_n in_o loc_fw-la christ_n his_o approbation_n annex_v to_o it_o matth._n 16._o 16_o 18._o thou_o be_v say_v he_o christ_n the_o son_n of_o the_o live_a god_n to_o which_o our_o saviour_n answer_v upon_o this_o rock_n upon_o this_o rock_n as_o some_o eminent_a expositor_n conceive_v of_o profession_n or_o upon_o this_o profession_n as_o upon_o a_o rock_n will_v i_o build_v my_o church_n christ_n than_o it_o seem_v will_v build_v his_o church_n upon_o this_o rock_n of_o profession_n of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n and_o such_o as_o be_v build_v thereupon_o be_v true_a stone_n in_o his_o house_n and_o the_o true_a subject_a matter_n of_o his_o visible_a church_n and_o those_o that_o require_v a_o profession_n of_o the_o grace_n of_o justify_v faith_n or_o of_o save_a grace_n as_o necessary_a to_o our_o enter_v the_o visible_a church_n seem_v to_o lay_v another_o foundation_n thereof_o then_o christ_n himself_o have_v lay_v therefore_o answerable_a hereunto_o be_v that_o of_o the_o apostle_n be_v build_v upon_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o prophet_n i._n e._n as_o bullinger_n teach_v upon_o their_o doctrine_n not_o their_o grace_n nor_o yet_o ult_n eph._n 2._o ult_n our_o own_o not_o as_o if_o the_o apostle_n and_o prophet_n be_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n in_o their_o person_n yet_o it_o seem_v they_o be_v so_o in_o their_o doctrine_n which_o be_v indeed_o the_o doctrine_n of_o that_o one_o foundation_n other_o than_o which_o none_o may_v lay_v viz._n jesus_n christ_n therefore_o according_o the_o true_a visible_a church_n have_v ever_o hitherto_o be_v argue_v and_o know_v by_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o doctrine_n which_o it_o have_v profess_v and_o not_o by_o the_o truth_n of_o its_o grace_n 4._o therefore_o the_o true_a and_o proper_a principle_n of_o this_o profession_n be_v but_o a_o dogmatical_a faith_n see_v that_o faith_n which_o be_v the_o principle_n of_o such_o a_o profession_n must_v needs_o fix_v upon_o the_o same_o object_n with_o that_o profession_n 135._o faith_n be_v term_v hystorical_a in_o the_o school_n that_o go_v no_o far_a than_o to_o give_v assent_n and_o credit_n to_o the_o story_n of_o that_o which_o god_n speak_v to_o be_v true_a culverwel_n of_o faith_n p_o 16._o vid._n rogers_n of_o faith_n p_o 6._o and_o ball_n of_o faith_n page_n 3._o temporary_a faith_n have_v more_o than_o the_o former_a add_v to_o knowledge_n and_o assent_n a_o profession_n of_o the_o word_n yet_o live_v still_o in_o their_o sinne●_n in_o a_o carnal_a estate_n roger_n page_n 7_o temporal_a faith_n be_v to_o assent_v to_o the_o heavenly_a doctrine_n to_o profess_v it_o and_o to_o glory_n therein_o the_o devil_n believe_v historical_o ursin_n cat._n english_a by_o par._n page_n 134_o 135._o we_o profess_v what_o we_o believe_v and_o believe_v what_o we_o profess_v viz._n the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n as_o the_o common_a sense_n within_o receive_v the_o same_o object_n which_o the_o outward_a organ_n of_o the_o eye_n or_o ear_n see_v or_o hear_v yet_o i_o further_o yield_v that_o there_o be_v a_o act_n of_o faith_n more_o than_o mere_o dogmatical_a or_o historical_a that_o do_v many_o time_n if_o not_o ever_o engage_v a_o man_n to_o be_v so_o believe_v to_o make_v a_o profession_n to_o the_o world_n of_o what_o he_o believe_v for_o it_o be_v not_o the_o bare_a believe_a of_o such_o a_o truth_n that_o put_v a_o man_n on_o to_o profess_v it_o but_o usual_o something_o of_o a_o applicative_a faith_n add_v thereto_o which_o faith_n also_o must_v needs_o be_v yield_v 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communion_n but_o i_o presume_v this_o be_v not_o all_o for_o 3._o from_o the_o premise_n it_o seem_v at_o least_o probable_a to_o i_o that_o the_o church_n be_v to_o have_v some_o kind_n of_o respect_n unto_o the_o save_a condition_n of_o the_o person_n she_o be_v about_o to_o admit_v into_o communion_n though_o i_o donbt_v not_o to_o assert_v with_o our_o brethren_n n._n e._n and_o reverend_a master_n baxter_n that_o a_o sober_a and_o humble_a profession_n of_o faith_n and_o repentance_n with_o a_o desire_n of_o baptism_n be_v as_o much_o evidence_n of_o this_o save_a condition_n as_o the_o church_n be_v bind_v to_o expect_v without_o any_o far_a positive_a proof_n of_o conversion_n 4._o yet_o i_o humble_o conceive_v that_o more_o than_o a_o bare_a outward_a profession_n be_v requisite_a to_o give_v real_a interest_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o the_o previledge_n thereof_o before_o god_n though_o no_o more_o be_v requisite_a to_o give_v visible_a interest_n before_o man_n 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