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A89837	A few words occasioned by a paper lately printed, stiled, A discourse concerning the Quakers. Together with a call to magistrates, ministers, lawyers, and people to repentance. Wherein all men may see, that the doctrine and life of those people whom the world scornefully calls Quakers, is the very doctnrie [sic] and life of Christ. Written for the sake of the simple minded ones, who are willing to follow Christ under the crosse, and to deny all things to be his disciples. By a servant of the Lord, reproached by the world, and carnall worshippers, under the name of a Quaker; whose name in the flesh is Iames Nayler.	Naylor, James, 1617?-1660.; A. P.	1654 (1654)	Wing N279; Thomason E731_23; ESTC R202987	25,300	28

be pride envy covetousnesse selfe love exaltation slandering false-accusing deceit dissimulation and hypocrisie and such like which are the workes of the Devill all thy outward pretences shall not keep thee from the condemnation of the Devill for it is that which leades out of the works of the Devill that brings from under the condemnation of the Devill Thou puts much upon Church-Ordinances but fee if thou be distinguished from the world otherwise then in notion and thy owne conceit which will deceive thee and all the covetous oppressors in the world in the day of tryall Therefore prove thy selfe if thou be a Saint sanctified Iude 1. Iohn 17. 9 14. come out of the worlds pleasures riches wayes and worships and fashions as they were whose conditions thou talkest on or else thy crying the Temple of the Lord will but stand thee in little stead which if thou deale plainely in and let truth speak in thee thou wilt see a great distance between a Saints life and thine as between a Saints spirit and thine which is plainely discovered Thou sayest It is observable that where Churches are these Owles dare not appeare These reproachfull names beseems that spirit from whence they come but which of them have refused to come where they have been sent for feare of your Churches or what corners are they in except it be such as you have shut up in prisons or dungeons doe not these that are at liberty meet in the middest of common Streets and Fields where God calls them and many of the most conscientious of your Churches owne them and frequents their meetings others who have the feare of God before them dare not persecute them in word or deed but the day is come that all spirits must shew themselves Thou advisest to doe all according to Scripture it is good advice but dost thou that teachest another Mat. 7. 12. teach thy selfe dost thou as thou would be done by in all things dost thou forsake pride and covetousnesse which is Idolatry and not to be so much as named among Saints dost not thou seek great things for thy selfe having food and rayment Jere. 45. 5. Iam 4 4. art thou therewith content art thou out of love with the world which is enmity with God dost thou not take thought for to morrow for food and rayment hast thou crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts and put off the body of sin art thou not a scorner reviler and false accuser dost thou feed the hungry cloathe the naked and let the oppressed goe free Iam. 1 27 hast thou forsaken all to follow Christ art thou hated of all Mat. 15. 10. 11. men for the name of Christ hast thou denied to be called Master art thou come to yea and nay in thy common occasions Mat. 23 8. 10. dost thou love the Brethren with the same love Christ hath loved his withall art thou set free from thy sinne and rash passions Mat. 5 37 Rom. 6 18. dost thou hold thy Faith in a pure Conscience voyd of offence 1 Tim. 1 5 19. towards God and Man dost thou walke as Christ walked And many other the commands of God set down in Scripture in Acts 24 16. which the Saints walked as is plaine in Scripture which if thou ● Iohn 2 6. walke iu there thou dost all according to the Scripture but if thou take but some part of Scripture to performe as it is given out by the holy Ghost to wit that which will most fit thy forme and please thy owne will and not crosse thy lusts profits and greatnesse in the world and for the rest either let them stand by or wrest them by subtill meaning and exposition to bring 2 Pet. 3. 16. them to bend to thy disobedient minde shall not God find thee out and plague thee for thy adding and diminishing altering Rev. 22. 18. and changing that which was perfectly given forth to be read and fulfilled as it is And whereas thou would charge the light of Christ shining into the Conscience which teacheth into onenesse to be the cause of all the errors in the world It is false for the light of Christ is but one and all that are led by Rom. 8. 14 it walke after Christ as he walked but the cause of all errors comes from the Serpents subtill twining and wresting the Scriptures every one for their owne Formes ends and carnall traditions but none of them will owne it to live the life of it as it is and so have it fulfilled in them as is was in those that spoke it forth Thou sayest Be sure the Christ the Faith the Hope the Baptisme the Worship be that which is in Scripture Now that Christ which the saints witnessed in Scripture is the light of the Iohn 8. 12. world given to enlighten the Gentiles and lighteneth every Iohn 1. 9. one that commeth into the world which light is in the saints Iohn 1. 7. and whosoever walkes in it hath fellowship with God and one with another and thereby are cleansed from all sin in which light all Sriptures were spoken forth which light thou denyes to be equall with the Scripture but scornes and reproaches with nick-names as Ignis fatuus a naturall light making it plainely appeare that thou art one of those the Scriptures speaks on who hates the light And the Scripture Faith is that by which Iohn 3 20. 1 Iohn 5. 4 5. the saints overcame the world sinn and the Devill and gets victory which Faith thou in this Paper canst not owne but denyes and would reproach in them in whom it hath overcome sinne and brought up to perfection and he that hath the Scripture hope purifies himselfe even as he is pure and the Baptisme 1 Iohn 3. 3. of Christ is with the holy Ghost and with Fire which thou Mat. 3 11 in thy Paper speaks scornefully of in others that owne it And the Scriptures-worship is not in Idolls Temples Formes and Letters but in spirit and in truth and God seeks such to worship Iohn 4 24. him And thou ranks up a number of Raunters Notionists Papists and such like that are most odious to people and with these thou puts in those called Quakers and tells of their opinions but those thou so callest denies all opinions and lives in the light and practice of Scriptures but thou when thou art proved will be found more in opinion then practice And thou that denies the infallible spirit to be in thee art but in opinions at the best And for the Purgatory thou speakes on thou that sayes None can ever be perfected and set free from sinne while they are here had need to own a Purgatory but they who are Redeemed and set free from sinne by the Lambe of God need it not but have received the earnest of their eternall inheritance And for the word Baptisme which is but Water

A Few Words occasioned by a Paper lately Printed Stiled A Discourse concerning the QUAKERS Together with a Call to Magistrates Ministers Lawyers and People to Repentance Wherein all men may see that the Doctrine and Life of those People whom the world scornefully calls Quakers is the very Doctnrie and Life of Christ Written for the sake of simple minded ones who are willing to follow Christ under the Crosse and to deny all things to be his Disciples By a Servant of the Lord reproached by the world and carnall worshippers under the Name of a Quaker whose Name in the Flesh is Iames Nayler To the READER Friend MEeting lately with a Printed Paper stiled A Discourse concerning the Quakers and finding many things in it deeply reflecting on the spirit of the Lord sent into the hearts of men to reprove and convince them of sinne and reproaching his holy people whom he hath called out of the world and that it was scattered abroad into many hands and so might prove a stumbling blocke to weake minds I was moved to send it to a friend in the West who for the simple ones sake hath given forth a few things that truth might appeare And if there be any that by Reading this shall be brought to discover truth from error or to lay to heart their conditions and how they have hitherto trifled away their pretious time There is another Paper now in the Presse from the same hand which will shew forth the true light that guides to God and opens the Scriptures removes the doubts about the great power of the Lord manifested in shaking the earthly part of those he brings to himselfe plainly declare the deceipts of the false prophets of the world and let the Magistrate see the bounds of his Authority There is another Paper come forth by the Author of the former Discourse occasioned by something Writ in Answer to it by one who saith he is none of those called Quakers and yet the Discourser chargeth all things he saith on them But the Paper sufficiently bewrayes the Authors weakenesse and its owne folly Reade without prejudice that thou may receive Instruction and not increase thy owne misery A. P. A Paper being come to my hand which is full of deceit under pretence of Religion and a Forme of Profession striking at the life of all Religion which is obedience to all the commands of God in the spirit and under pretence of the Letter which he calls the Word he goes about to reproach and scorne and sleight the teachings of Christ in the spi●it whereby he rules in the consciences of his Saints and by which light he reveales the Father in them and thereby declares himselfe to be the Eternall Word and Witnesse within his which Word first was known within them a free gift of the Father without any Letter or humane Learning and then declared out in the Letter But they who as the Jews thinke they have salvation in the Letter are enemies and persecutors of John 5. 3● them who have the Eternall Witnesse of salvation in the Spirit Gal. 3. 2● And from that spirit hath this Paper its foundation for God having put the enmity between the carnall and the sp●rituall Seeds there can be no agreement Now though I abhorre striving for Master-hood in words or writing yet for the sake of the simple ones who not yet having the true judgement and salt in themselves to discerne of spirits are subject to take great swelling words of mans wisedome for the power of God unto 1 Cor. 2. 5. 6. salvation I am therefore moved to lay open some of the deceits in this Paper that where truth and simplicity is in the heart it may more cleerly judge of truth from dece●t The Paper is Titled A Discourse concerning the Quakers It is no new thing for the dearest servants and children of God Psal 69 12. Psal 31. ●1 to be a discourse a reproach a taunt and by-word a wonder and Psal 22 6. a scorne to fooles and wicked men and to have the belly-god and drunkard to make songs of their sad and afflicted conditions Psal 60 12. and to be called by nick-names such as it pleaseth Ishmaels Iohn 10. 20. brood to cast upon them to be called Devills Deceivers Heretickes Franticke Madd men Quakers and such like but it is that the same Scriptures may be fulfilled in the Saints that were in Christ their example As they have done unto me so will Luke 23. 31. they doe unto you If they keep my sayings they will also keep yours If they have called the good man of the house Beelzebub how much more them of his houshold Thou sayest It s plainely fore-told that in the last dayes shall be the greatest Deceivers and worst of Hypocrites men extraordinarily inspired with a spirit of lyes and delusion It is above sixteen hundred yeares since those were foretold and they have had so long a time since to broach their deceits and strengthen themselves in the earth that the deceit is now growne a monster and hath got many heads and hornes religions Revel 13. 1. and formes one at warre with another striving with words and weapons who should be greatest But now that Christ is arisen in his Saints to reveale this man of sinne by his 2 Thes 2. 7. 8. light and to destroy him with the sword of his mouth All Ezek. 38. 18. 19. formes of Religions the Beast and the false Prophet Gog and Acts 4. 26. 27. Magog are joyned together to strike at this light and no wonder for that deceitfull spirit knowes that that light which discovers him in one forme will discover him in all And now the Devill would passe Judgement upon that light which is come to judge him where he is and so set any whom he can prevaile in to cast reproach upon it under many odious names that so he may keep people at a distance from so much as owning Luke 6. 22. it for he knowes if any owne it there he is discovered and dis-owned and this is his way in all in whom he speaks to cry out against those that walke in the light in generall calling them Deceivers Heretickes Hypocrites denyers of Scriptures Acts 24. 14. Acts 6. 13. 14. and Ordinances and many such words as he thinks may make the truth most odious to others but not once shew in what particular such walke contrary to the Scripture for the deceit knowes that if it come to tryall it selfe will be found that which walkes contrary to the Scripture for the same light that gave out the Scriptures leades not contrary to it And now who will be the greatest deceivers whether a poore despised persecuted reproached people whom God hath called out of the worlds wayes words workes worship riches and pleasures and so are become strangers and wanderers to and fro seeking a City whose builder and maker is God Heb 11. 26.

Saints have in the Word which is true but thou that would ascribe them to the Letter knowest them not but in the notion Thou sayest that those that have glorioser discoveries and revelations of Christ to boast on then ever any of those men knew yet doe cast downe the glory of their light before the Scriptures and are in subjection to Scriptures and Ordinances And thou dost instance the Disciples who saw Christ ascend I answer Whether is it a more glorious discovery and manifestation of Christ to see him appearing in them the second time in the spirit without sinne unto salvation or that to see him depart in the flesh seeing Christ tells them lt Heb. 9. 28. 2 Tim. 1. 10. is necessary that he goe away in the Flesh that he may come in the Spirit thou dost sufficiently cleare thy ignorance measuring Iohn 14. 28. 1 Cor. 15. 8. others who witnesse him with thy selfe who knowes no more of him but what thou hast found of him in the Letter And for that subjection to the Scripture and Ordinances and waiting thou speakes on did they waite in the letter and in those formes and customes and Idols temples that you waite in they waited together for the appearance of Christ in spirit praying in that measure of spirit they had received Thou goest about to make people beleeve that the light of Christ which is Acts 1. 14. given to enlighten every one that comes into the world is a naturall or fallen light but if thou didst know owne and obey it it would leade thee out of the fall and for that end art thou and others so often checkt and reproved by it for your pride Iohn 8. 12 covetousnesse envy scornefulnesse and other sinnes which though you now disobey as a thing too low for your high notions yet this light shall remaine for an eternall witnesse against all that hate and disobey it And whereas thou would scandall this light to leade into exorbitances deceit and miscarriages and many such things they are falsly cast upon this light for all these are amongst you who hate the light but who so obeys and loves the light it discovers these and leades all who follow it into one minde heart and soule and if ten times ten thousand that are guided by it yet not a word of dispute Acts 4. 32. but all speake the same things And thou calls the Scriptures A standing Rule but it is not so to you who cannot beleeve that ever it shall be fulfilled in you as it was given out by the holy Ghost neither will you so be tryed by it but you will wrest and twine it to make it meet your wills where your profits pleasures and lust will not suffer you to take up the Crosse and come up to it but if it be a Standing Rule let it stand as it is not confounded with the Serpents Wisedome and then prove thy selfe by it and those people thou reproaches and mis-calls whether thou or they owne it in practice Thou calls the Word of God the Sunne of truth and yet thou would make people beleeve it is the Scripture Letter Is the Letter the Sunne of truth may not all that looke on yee see thee in Babylon Thou sayest How could it be knowne that there is a God and Christ and holy ● Iohn 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. Ghost with their works and worships I answer If thou know not Iohn 4. 22 23. 24. the Father Sonne and Spirit one God and the way of his worship other wayes then thou hast found in the Letter thou Phil. 3. 3. knows but that in letter and notion which all the Saints of God knew in spirit and power and thou worships in letter and forme thou knowes not what who doth not know and worship in spirit and herein thou shalt have Christ all the holy men to witnes against thee Thou sayest the holy Ghost interprets Scripture by Scripture und reveales Christ the Father the holy Ghost the soules union with them by Scripture I answer The holy Ghost where he 2 Pet. 1. 21 is needs no Scripture to interpret Scripture by who gave forth Iohn 14. 26 Mat. 13. 10 11. all the Scripture and opens it againe for the holy Ghost did not give out the Scripture in Parables to its own seed but to the Serpents seed and as that spirit ariseth it opens and brings Iohn 16. ● all that is spoken in Scripture to remembrance and leades into all truth in its measure and when any in whom the spirit was have made use of Scripture in such like cases it hath not been to open the meaning to themselves but to convince others who had not the spirit or would not owne it And for sovles union 2 Cor. 3. 3. which of the Saints had the witnesse of their soules union to seek in the Letter but he that beleeveth hath the witnesse in himselfe 1 Iohn 5 10. Rom. 8. 16. in spirit and not in the letter and for trying and judging 1 Cor. 2. 15. it is not the litterall but the spirituall man that judgeth all things and no visible thing can judge him Thou would have them to suspect this light those who have no light to walke by but what they by their wisedome and learning have gathered out of the letter have cause to suspect it but they who have the infallible light of Christ by which all is tryed and judged and discerned and judgement brought forth into victory in themselves by it they have no cause to suspect it but waite to walke in it Thou art offended that they should say they pray 1 Thes 5. 17. alwayes have the Baptisme of Fire eate the Flesh and drinke the 2 Thes 1. 11. blood of Christ that they were once as others Hypocrites now why Mat. 3. 11. wilt thou thus wrangle that the cōmands and promises of Christ John 6. 53. should be witnessed fulfilled in the Saints now as they have bin in Scripture witnessed Doth not the Apostles exhort to pray alwayes without ceasing and are any Baptized into Christ who are not able to witnesse the Baptisme of Fire and the Spirit without which Water Baptisme availes not to salvation And doth not Christ plainely say that whosoever eats not his Flesh and drinkes not his blood hath no life in them And have not the Saints Rom. 6. 21. witnessed a time wherein they were hypocrites and in the world without the true God And thou sayest they can give no Scriture account of the estate they are now in and yet dost blame them for owning the Scripture fulfilled in them in these things but that nature could never be satisfied with Christ nor any of his nor any account from them though they could not convince them of sinne yet they would tempt hate and persecute even till death if they had power Thou would make people beleeve that these deny the