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A92140 A free disputation against pretended liberty of conscience tending to resolve doubts moved by Mr. John Goodwin, John Baptist, Dr. Jer. Taylor, the Belgick Arminians, Socinians, and other authors contending for lawlesse liberty, or licentious toleration of sects and heresies. / By Samuel Rutherfurd professor of divinity in the University of St. Andrews. Rutherford, Samuel, 1600?-1661. 1649 (1649) Wing R2379; Thomason E567_2; ESTC R203453 351,532 454

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infallible beleeve it with a reserve say the Independents and with leaving place to a new light so as you must believe it to day to be a truth of God to morrow to be a lye the third day a truth the fourth day a lye and so a circle till your doomsday come so as you must ever beleeve and learne never come to a settlement and establishing in the truth but dye trying dye doubting dye with a trepedation and a reserve and dye and live a Scepticke like the Philosophers that said they knew nothing and I thinke Libertines cannot but be Scepticks and there is more to bee said for the Scepticisme of some then the Libertinisme of others 5. Would these Masters argue formally they must say what ever doctrine we are to try before we receive it that we may uncompelledly receive and beleeve it after tryall that ought to bee tolerated by the Magistrate in doctrine and practice or profession sutable thereunto before men I would assume But whether there be a God and but one God and all fundamentalls or non-fundamentalls be divine truths yea and whether fornication be sin and plurality of wives and community of goods and spoyling of wicked men of their wives and their lands and possessions as the Israelites spoyled the Aegyptians are such truths that we must try before we receive beleeve and accordingly beleeve and practice ergo the Magistrate is to tolerate fornication plurality of wives spoyling of men of their possessions and goods and community of goods but the conclusion is absurd and blasphemous and against the Law of nature for if there be no Magistracy nor violence to bee done to ill-doers under the New Testament neither must we defend our owne lives nor flye nor resist injuries but turne up the other cheeke to him that smites the one and if a man take your cloake give him your coat also according to the sense that Anabaptists put on the words yea and cut off your hands and feet plucke out your eyes if they cause you to offend and shed your owne blood which is the greatest and most unnaturall violence that is 6. The sense of this Try all and hold that which is good must be Try and search the true senses of divine truths and then having tryed and beleeved hold the truth and beleeve it for a day and yeeld to the light of the just contrary to morrow and having found a contrary light try that the third morrow and yeeld to another new and contrary light the third morrow Now the Holy Ghost must command doubting by that meanes and doubting till we lose faith and finde it againe and lose it againe in a circle and if we must try all things and try all spirits the Bereans must try their owne trying and their owne doubtings and beleeving and so into infinite and when they finde Christ to be in Pauls doctrine and that of Moses and the Prophets yet must they try and doubt and beleeve the doctrine of the Prophets and Apostles and of the Holy Ghost with the Libertines reserve waiting when the Holy Ghost shall give himselfe the lye and say I moved you to beleeve such a truth and such an article of faith the last yeare but now after a more deepe consideration I move you to beleeve the contrary yet so as yee leave roome to my new light 7. The sense also of these Lord enlighten mine eyes that I may know thee with a suller evidence not of Moon-light but of Day-light or as of seven dayes into one bee this Lord open my eyes and increase my knowledge grant that thy holy Spirit may bestow upon my darke soule more Scepticall conjecturall and fluctuating knowledge to know and beleeve things with a reserve and with a leaving of roome to beleeve the contrary to morrow of that which I beleeve to day and the contradicent of that the third day which I shall beleeve to morrow and so till I dye let me Lord have the grace of a circular faith running like the wheels of the wind-mill for the growing knowledge we seeke of God as in a way of growing ever in this life till grace be turned into glory 2 Pet. 3. 18. if our growth of knowledge stand as Libertines say in a circular motion from darknesse to light and backe againe from light to darknesse like the motion of a beast in a horse-mill so as I know and learne and beleeve this topicke truth of faith to day I unknow I unlearn and deny it to morrow as an untruth And againe I take it up the third day as a truth then we seeke in prayer not settled and fixed knowledge and a well-rooted faith of truths to beleeve them without a reserve or a demurre to sen● way the opinion I have of this non-fundamentall or fundamentall truth as a grosse mistake and to welcome the just contrary opinion as a truth And againe to send it away upon a new light c. now this is but a mocking of God to pray for his Spirit that wee may barter and change opinions with every new Moone for our prayer for new light is not that the Holy Ghost would teach us faith and opinion of truths and falsehoods in a circle but that God 1. Would give the Spirit of revelation to see Gospel truths with a cleare revelation of faith 2. That hee would be pleased to cause that light by which we see the same ancient Gospel-truths shine more fully with a larger measure of heavenly evidence 3. That our light may so grow into the perfect day that we see new deductions consequences and heavenly new fresh conclusions from the former truthe of God But by scepticall faith we pray that God would give us a contrary new light to get a new faith of truths formerly beleeved contradicent to the word of God and to that faith which produced joy yea joy unspeakable and glorious 1 Pet. 1. 7 8. and glorying in tribulation and sweetnesse of peace Rom. 5. 1 2 3. for this not the light of the Moone turned in the light of the Sun or of the Sun as seven dayes in one but light turned in night darkenesse the truth in a lye and the Spirit of truth made the father of lyes 8. The Apostles never bid us know any truth of God with a reserve Libertines bi●lus the Apostles and the Holy Ghost in them bids us know assuredly that Jesus is Christ the Lord they exhort us to bee rooted and established in the faith Col. 2. to be fully perswaded of all both fundamentalls and the historicalls of the birth life miracles words facts death sufferings and buriall resurrection ascention c. of Christ as Luke exhorteth Theophilus Luke 1. 1 2 3. yea the Apostle clearely Heb. 5. exhorteth to the faith of many points concerning Christ beside the first principles of the Oracles of God that of Catecheticke points fit for babes who have not stomachs to beare stronger food v. 12. 13. 1.
hypocrites and malicious opposers of the wayes of God enemies to and persecuters of the true Prophets sent of God v. 13. and who were these but Scribes Pharisees in whom there was as much malice against Christ and his Disciples as can be in the devill or such as sin against the Holy Ghost as may be seen Matth. 13 14 15. Matth. 12. 31 32. Matth. 15. 1 2 3 7 8 9. And God powred the spirit of slumber on the Jewes Rom. 11. 7. 8. and there was superlative malice in them against the knowne truth Act. 13. 45. 46. and blasphemy Act. 14. 2 3 4 5. and yet these men in evill and as touching litterall knowledge know well what they were doing though they were spiritually blocks See Matth. 2. 4 5 6. Joh. 7. 28. Joh. 3. 2. They privily bring in 2 Pet. 2. damnable heresies they make merchandise of you with faire words then they wanted not devillish wit enough And 1 Tim. 4. 1. They speake lyes out of hypocrisie and the doctrine of Devills forbidding meates and marriage there is wit for these look like singular mortification yet they have a conscience so stupid as it were burnt with a hot iron This also is grosse ignorance in Libertines that they thinke those who sinne against knowledge and conscience and out of malice as those that sin against the Holy Ghost doe not sinne through ignorance also which is most false for the most malicious sin against knowledge hath an interpritative ignorance con●oyned with it as the Pharisees who sinned against the Holy Ghost in crucifying Christ some of them as is cleare Joh. 8. 28. Joh. 9. 40 41 and else where yet they sinned ignorantly also for had thy knowne they would not have crucified the Lord of glory 1 Cor. 2. 8. CHAP. IX Of Liberty of prophesying of erroneous inditement of Conscience that it is not our Rule BUt we judge that Hereticks admonished and convinced of their errour doe sinne on the borders at least of the sin against the Holy Ghost in regard they be 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 selfe condemned as Paul saith Tit. 3. 10. A man that is an hereticke after the first and second admonition reject 11. Knowing that he that is such is subverted and sinneth being condemned of himselfe Where the Apostle saith an admonished and wrought upon hereticke who is convinced of the truth and yet still resisteth 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 He is perverted or subverted desperately perverted like a building throwne downe to the foundation 2. he finneth as condemned of himselfe that is judged and condemned by his owne conscience and so sinneth willfully and with a high measure of light but hee shutteth his eyes against the light and known truth and resisteth it 1 The Hereticke here spoken of Tit. 3. 10. is not the man who moves such questions say they as he knowes to be vaine and light as Arminians say For as Vedelius saith he expresly speakes of an heretick 2 It is a question if any bee called an Hereticke in the word because he moves such questions 1. The Hereticke here is subverted and so turned off the foundation Christ But he that moveth vaine and unprofitable questions can at best but build his hay stubble upon the foundation Christ now such a man may bee builded on the foundation and saved though the fire destroy his worke and so he is not turned off the foundation Yea if he wittingly and willingly move vain and light questions he cannot be saved nor doth that follow for his knowledg of the levity of these questions aggravates his sin but cannot cause to amount to a sin so high as to subvert the mans faith because he may keepe the foundation though he hold these vaine and light opinions for they are not in themselves destructive of the foundation 2. There is no mention nor any hint here of vaine and light questions but of admonished heretickes therefore Eusebius l. 4. c. 13. referres it to those that deny Christs divinity to Marcion and Corinthus and they say John would not stay in the stoves with Cerinthus and Polycarpus his disciple would not speake with Marcion but said I know thee to be the first borne of Sathan 3. It is here to be noted that these Authors also make the conscience though erroneous even in fundamentalls the rule of faith if the person beleeve that he worships God according to the rule of the word and there be some morall honesty in him and so teach there should be a toleration of al hereticks then no man is the heretick but he who professeth points of truth which he believeth to be lyes untruth but so there is not an hereticke in the world but the devill and such as professe a false Religion before men which in their conscience they beleeve to be false But the Apostle saith 1 Tim. 3 1. Now the Spirit speaketh expresly that in the latter times men shall depart from the faith giving beed to seducing spirits Popish Priests and Familists and doctrine of Devills 2. Speaking lyes in hypocrisie having their conscience seared with an hot iron 3. Forbidding to marry and commanding to abstaine from meats Now a seared conscience burnt with an hot iron may and doth teach marriage to be unlawfull to some and doe beleeve it for a truth that Church-men should not intangle themselves with the affaires of this life such as marriage and care of children because Pastors goe a warfare for Jesus Christ yet the text saith they that so teach are seducers who with a seared conscience speake lyes in hypocrisie and so must be hereticks and worse 2. No rule can be falser and more crooked then the conscience for if ye must be obliged to follow conscience because it is conscience or because right or wrong if you must follow conscience because conscience yee must ever follow your conscience though never so wrong for the most erroneous conscience is conscience though the devill should immediately actuate it yet doth not leave off to bee conscience and to be the rule and if so when the conscience of some saith its good service to God to kill the Apostles of our Lord because they preach the Gospel then doe persecuters nothing but what they are in duty bound to doe when they murther the Apostles because they preach the Gospel for to follow the rule which God hath appointed must be a bounden duty And the same must follow if the conscience as evill be the rule for then should men serve God in sacrificing their sonnes to God in community and plurality of wives when ever their conscience should dictate any such thing to be lawfull though in it selfe it be most contrary to the word of God If the conscience as good or as the Arminians seeme to say as principled with morall honesty be our rule then the conscience as conscience is not the rule but as it is ruled by morall honesty this wee cannot say
mouth Zach. 13. Lastly Baptist is so charitable of all Saints that are not for liberty of conscience as that he makes it their doom to be cast out as Ishmael and to have no share in Christ or in the Gospel But Baptist if you judge us and be not infallible you take the Lords throne upon you and you judge us before our day which is to you a strong argument against liberty of conscience c. 3. pag. 14. Know ye we are selfe-condemned and saw you Gods secret book and saw our names dashed out of the book of life and that we are inrolled with Ishmalites Take the beam out of your own eye CHAP. XXVII Whether our darknesse and incapacity to beleeve and professe together with the darknesse and obscurity of Scripture be a sufficient ground for Toleration AS Mr. John Goodwin the Lord pardon his perverting of Soules led the way from Arminian principles who teach with Socinians that 1 To know is not in our power which he and they borrowed from Aristotle but wickedly understood 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 And 2 Arminians taught that God by an irresistible power works illumination in the minde So opinions not being in our power the Magistrate can have no power over men to coerce them from spreading of heresie Hence Baptist the Bounder the Stormer and other Libertines M. Goodwin speaks for That which is not in our power to doe or not doe and is wrought in us by supernaturall grace and by God onely we are not punishable by the Magistrates sword but to beleeve to repent to be sound in the faith is wrought in us by supernaturall grace and by God onely Baptist heaps together but eighteen Scriptures produced against Pelagians Papists Arminians and his brethren Socinians and old Anabaptists that no man can come to the Son except the Father draw him the naturall man understands not the things of God c. And I am sure he is ignorant of the conclusion for we professe the sword is to be drawn against no man because he repenteth not or beleeveth not c. Hence Baptist spitting out with other Antinomians his venome against us though no matter excepting the sin of it if he wronged not Christ and his truth For when a weak Christian a disciple of Servetus Socinus an Apostate denying the Lord Jesus to have come in the flesh and all the Scriptures to be the word of God tyred of longer imprisonment and death shall say You say well but how shall I prevaile with my selfe to beleeve what you say Thus reply these miserable comforters Yeeld obedience to what is taught you meditate on it often desire to beleeve it and God in time will bring you to beleeve it Then poore Popery why art thou evill spoken of and this is a lie why It is the Spirit that teacheth us to pray Abba Father This is merit and supererogations ground-stone Answ 1. What if a man void of the Spirit cannot pray ergo we should not advise him to pray Is it Popery to advise him so to doe or to pray when he wants the Spirit sure Peter taught no Popery to Simon Magus a man as void of the Spirit as any Socinian or Familist a man in the gall of bitternesse and in the bond of iniquity Act. 8. 22. Repent therefore of this thy wickednesse I conceive this is yeeld obedience to what is taught you and meditate on it and your evill wayes and change your minde and pray God though thou hast no Spirit of Adoption more then a Familist who makes you beleeve hony words or the very Spirit given to his Anointed ones such as they onely if perhaps the thoughts of thine heart may be forgiven thee and whom does the Lord command Ezek. 18. that they would make a new heart I conceive such as were as unable to doe it as to make one haire white or blacke as the Bounder saith and this is our advice not because we thinke they can do it without the Spirit of Christ more than those that move the question Act. 2. 37. What shall we doe to be saved Act. 9. 6. Act. 16. 30. But if unconverted they may be humbled and convinced that they are in a lost condition And I confesse if Antinomians will advise them to beleeve and pray though they have not the Spirit and to pray as they can and beleeve as they can and without any preparative work of the Law or sense or knowledge of sin or sicknesse for Christ immediately and forth with beleeve Christ dyed for thee obstinate Socinian and wrote thy name in the booke of life and beleeve thy election to life Baptist is a miserab●e comforter and how he censureth this Its Gods absolute will and pleasure you should beleeve and that you must necessarily beleeve upon perill of damnation● which he saith is our Catechisme I understand not except he shew us a conditionall Commandement to beleeve the Gospell and a conditionall election and reprobation suspending Gods decrees on what we are foreseen to doe and except he deny the threatnings in the Gospel which shall finde out an unbeleever Joh. 3. 18. 36. If the man be a weak Christian or a weak beleever when the advice of yeelding obedience praying desiring to beleeve is given him appearingly he would have weak Antinomians and all anointed ones loosed from all precepts rule of obedience and have them under no rule but the immediate impulsion of the Spirit which if it be his mind he should have set it down and must prove a miserable Comforter in so teaching 2. But are we in all these Scriptures that hold forth our impotencie to beleeve to thinke a good thought to doe the works of righteousness mercie truth chastitie sobrietie prescribed in the second Table unable only to conceive sound opinions of God and eschew Hereticall wayes and false Religions Are we not also unable to abstain from murther adulterie c. without the supernatural grace of God Yea all these places shall prove that the Ministerie of men Pastors and Teachers of the word are as unlawfull means of converting soules as the Magistrates Sword to beare down Heresi●● O say they preaching is an Ordinance of Christ and a spiritual means ordained to convert soules the Sword is nothing but a carnall humane device I answer it is an humane device of converting souls to shed the blood of their bodie but it is to beg the question and not to prove it to call it a humane device to punish ill doers and false Teachers who pervert the souls of many 2. I speak to the Argument the only preaching of the word it alone without the Spirit can no more make an hair white or black or draw us to the Son or work repentance in sin●●rs then the sword of the Magistrate can work repentance What can man doe saith the Bounder Is it not God that must give repentance to the acknowledgement of the truth So say I what
2. Will yee compell their consciences with the Sword c. Answer your owne arguments Libertines 10. Object Is not this Babels confusion to punish corporall or civill offences with spirituall or Church censures or spirituall offences with corporall or temporall weapons Bloody Tenet Answ To inflict bodily punishment for Sorcery makes not the Magistrate a Church-officer as he fondly phansieth all sinnes against God who is a Spirit or spirituall and by this reason the Church of Thyatira should not censure the fornication of Jezabel and her followers nor the Corinthians the Incestuous man with excommunication which is a corporall offence to speake so contrary to 1 Cor. 5. whereas all publicke sinnes as sinnes against God are punished by him with bodily and spirituall plagues as it pleaseth him 2. These same sinnes as they are scandalls that offend the Church are punished with Church-censures 3. These same as they disturbe the peace of the State doe also deserve to be punished by the sword though I take not on me to determine curiously whether the Magistrate punisheth sins formally under the reduplication as they trouble the peace of the State or as they dishonour God the highest Judge it may be there is something of both in this reduplication 4. These same sinnes are rebuked by private Professours as they are stumbling blocks to them Hos 2. 1. plead with your mother neither is it against the nature of perswasion to bee drawne to means of sound beleeving by mens Laws as I observed before from Augustine for feare of punishment may cause men to hear the word of truth which otherwise they would never have heard Epis ad Vincen. 48. Alii dicant nesciebamus sit esse veritatem nec eam discere volebamus sed nos ad eam eognoscendam metus fecit intentos quo timuimus ne fortè sine ullis rerum aeternarum lucris damno rerum eternarum feriremur gratias domino qui negligentiam nostram stimulo terroris excussit ut saltem soliciti quaereremus quod securi nunquam nosse curavimus 11. Object What if the Magistrate in punishing heresie differ from the Church and strike with the sword for that which the Church thinkes no heresie what shall the Church doe then and what if the Church judge that to be heresie and exhort the Magistrate to punish that as heresie which the Magistrate in his conscience judgeth to be no heresie What shall then the Magistrate doe Answ Though there be reciprocation of subordinations that the Magistrate in an Ecclesiasticke way be subject to the Church power yet not to an abused Church power and the Church in a Civill way be subject to the Magistrates power yet not to the Magistrates power tyrannically used but to the power that is from God and as used for God and common justice in the one Court and the word of God in the other is supreme Empire judge that either must follow 12. Object Did not the people of Israel suffer the Gentiles to stay in their land and enjoy their own Religion without troubling of them Answ It is like they did but if they did right in tolerating Idolatry for which the land spewed out the inhabitants is a question 2. They might 1. Suffer them till they were first instructed and then convinced that Religion might not be forced on them 2. They could not suffer them in that land to blaspheme the God of Israel lest a common guilt should fall upon all Jos 22. 16 17 18 19 20. 3. Since the people were never to partake of other mens sins they were to argue against them and rebuke them and endeavour the gaining of their soules 13. Ob. The Elect cannot finally and totally fall away from Grace and perish as the Scripture saith Joh. 6. 37. c. Why then should we be so fondly jealous lest the people of God should be carried away with every winde of doctrine as to suppresse each opinion supposed to be erroneous so as to run the hazard of sileucing the most saving truths of putting to death Gods dearest Saints reducing soules to such a posture as if we be in ignorance and errour we must be uncapable of ever comming out of either Answ A foolish argument without head or foot 1. We are to be afraid of every sinne our Lord hath bidden us beware of though the Elect cannot perish since he that chooseth to the end chooseth to the meanes and to both immutably and irrevocably without shadow or change else this argument will prove we need not be afraid to whore murther oppresse or the most hainous transgressions for these sinnes cannot more prejudge the chosen of their state of grace and certainty of glory then being carried about with every wind of doctrine and unsound opinions continued in and published to pervert others doe argue that we are of the number of those that are ever learning and never come to the knowledge of the truth 2 Tim. 3. 7. and are unstable and unlearned perverting the Scriptures to our own destruction 2 Pet. 3. 16. given over to strong 〈◊〉 to beleeve a lye 2 Thess 2. and damned for not beleeving the truth v. 11 12. the heart not being stablished by grace Heb. 13. 9. like children tossed too and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine by the slight of men whereby they lye in wait to deceive not speaking and not professing the truth in love that so we may grow up in Christ even in him in all things which is 〈…〉 Eph. 4. 14 15. All which prove that to be finally seduced is a certaine marke of reprobation as Matth. 24. 23 2● ● Tim. 2. 16 17 18. 19 20. and the Spirit that teacheth us 〈◊〉 are not to be afraid of falling from the state of grace 〈◊〉 salvation though we fall in such sins as the spirit of Antichrist and of curst Familists who turne the grace of God into wantonnesse who abuse the doctrine of election of grace 2. He makes God to bring us into an inevitable necessity of either being carried about with every wind of doctrine to beleeve lyes or then run the hazard of losing most saving truths and of putting to death Gods most dearest Saints But what warrant hath he thus to make God the author of sinne or to teach that divine providence doth lead us into an inextricable perplexity and necessity of sinning so that whether we do this or not doe it we must sin 3. What Scripture maketh the beleeving of lyes a certain hazard of losing most saving truths Is there no way of comming to the knowledge of the truth and the sparing of the lives of Gods most deare Saints but by beleeving truths which may be lyes and corrupt doctrine a word that eateth like a canker Is there no way to come to Gods harbour but by sayling in the Devills boat sure this is no way of Gods devising but of Sathans forging 4. Is then cursed Toleration a
and eate first and that before any of the words of Institution bee mentioned or any blessing of the Elements must be a manifest breach of the Directory of Jesus Christ which sure holdeth forth to us a twofold ordering of acts of worship one divine which we must p●remptorily follow another prudential and humane in circumstances which concern both the worship of God and civill Assemblies as time place persons c. and in the latter we are no further to be commanded in point of uniformitie then the generall rules of the word lead us and compulsion where God hath no compelling commandment going before in an exact uniformitie we utterly disclaim nor can men or Church or all the Assemblies on earth make laws in matters of Gods worship where the Supream Lawgiver hath made none and the Preface of the Directorie is so clear in this that we trust we shall quickly agree with the godly and sound in judgement in this Obj. 18. But whether were it not better that a Patent were granted to Monopolize all the corn and cloath and to have it measured out to us at mens price and pleasure which yet were intollerable as some men and Synods doe appoint and measure out to us what and how much we shall beleeve and practice in matters of religion and whether there be not the same reason that Presbyterians and the Assembly of Divines at Westminster should bee appointed by us Sectaries what they shall beleeve and practise in Religion as for them to do so to us seeing we can give as good grounds for what we beleeve and practice as they can doe for what they would have if not better Answ It were indeed better that all the corn and cloath were monopolized to be measured out at the pleasure of men then that truth should be monopolized and measured out at the pleasure of men speaking what pleases them without all warrant of the word of God and alledge only mens meer authoritie or rather lust and commanding men without trying the Spirits and doctrines by the Scriptures as the Bereans tryed Pauls doctrine Acts 17. Peremptorily to beleeve and practise what they appoint under pain of the Sword this sort of monopolizing either corn or truth our witnesse is in heaven we detest and refuse But of monopolizing and appointing what truth men should beleeve by an authoritative ministeriall and officiall holding out of truth in the name of Christ and from the word of truth in a way of leading the consciences by perswading from strength of light by the Law and the Testimonie and exhorting all men in the Lord to try the Spirits examine by the word not what men but the Embassadors of Christ say and teach not from themselves but from the will and commandment of him that sent them then must they give an account to God who call this monopolizing of the truth and measuring it out at the pleasure of men when as the preaching of the word being instant in season out of season reproving rebuking exhorting with all long-suffering and doctrine 2 Tim. 4. 2. should so be a monopolizing of the truth and a measuring of it out at the pleasure of men in regard that Christ saith Matth. 10. 40. He that receiveth you receiveth me Joh. 13. 20. and Luke 10. 16. He that heareth you heareth me and he that despiseth you despiseth me and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me And Matth. 10. 14. Whosoever shall not receive you nor hear your words when ye depart out of the house or Citie shake off the dust off your feet Verily I say unto you it shall be easier for the land of Sodom and Gemorrah in the day of judgement then for that Citie Which words are spoken of all the faithfull Ministers of Christ to the end of the world Matth. 28. 19 20. so they speak according to the commission given them by the Lord speaking in his word whether they declare the mind of Christ in a pulpit or Synod This way Ministers who hear the Word at Gods mouth Ezek 3. 10. and deliver the whole councell of God Acts 20. 27. and keep nothing back as faithful Ambassadors and Stewards ought ministerially to declare and appoint what and how much we shall beleeve and practise in matters of religion but not as Monopolizers 3. Suppose Sectaries could teach the Ministers of the Assemblie as well as the Ministers can teach them yet is there more reason that Ministers should Synodically teach then they for a teaching Ministery is an ordinance of Christ in the New Testament as is clear by these places which hold forth that Christ is present with his faithfull Ministers to the end of the world Joh. 20. 21 22. Matth. 28. 19. Eph. 4. 11 12 13. and 2 Tim. 4. 1. 2. compared with Matth. 28. 19. 20. Eph. 4. 11 12 13 Matth. 10. 14. v. 40. Luke 10. 14. Joh. 15. 20. 1 Tim. 3. 1 2 3 4 5. Rom. 10. 14 15 16. Hebr. 5. 4. and 13. 17. Tit. 1. 7 8 9. 1 Thes 4. 12 13. Rev. 2. 1 2. c. and 3. 1 2 c. and howbeit the word of God as the word doth equally tye the conscience in regard of that objective obligation that it hath from God not from men who ever spake it whether Ministers or private Christians yet it layeth two bands on the conscience when Ministers declare the will of God to people the one is officiall for by the fift commandement the messengers of the Lord of Hosts are to be heard reverenced and received in their calling otherwise we despise Christ The other is an objective obligation and a band which it layeth on the conscience by the second Commandment in regard it is the Word of God not of men 1 Thes 2. 13. But when private Christians speak the word of the Lord in their station the word from them layeth on only the latter obligation not the former and it is false That private men have as good grounds to appoint what Ministers should beleeve and practise as ministers have to appoint what they should beleeve and practice for private Christians want the Ministeriall grounds which Ministers called of God have to teach and exhort in the Name of the Lord. 4 It may be private men may see more truth then Ministers when night and darknesse in stead of vision covereth the Prophets but hence it followeth not that seeing and called watchmen should not ministerially appoint and hold forth by their office what private christians should beleeve and pr●ctice in matters of Religion 5. Libertines aim at this The truth is monopolized to no one man nor certain kind of men ministers or others What then Ergo It is truth what every man in his conscience beleeveth to be truth and he that beleeveth practiseth what in conscience he beleeveth to be truth he beleeveth and practiseth according to the word of God and is not to be controlled nor contradicted nor compelled by
A FREE DISPUTATION Against pretended Liberty of Conscience Tending To Resolve Doubts moved by Mr. John Goodwin John Baptist Dr. Jer. Taylor the Belgick Arminians Socinians and other Authors contending for lawlesse Liberty or licentious Toleration of Sects and Heresies By SAMUEL RUTHERFURD Professor of Divinity in the University of St. Andrews PSALM 119. 45. And I will walk at Liberty for I seek thy precepts 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 LONDON Printed by R. I. for Andrew Crook and are to be sold at his shop at the signe of the Green Dragon in St. Pauls Church-yard MDCIL TO THE Godly and unpartiall Reader I Offer Worthy Reader to your unpartiall and ingenuous censure these my ensuing thoughts against Liberty of conscience from which way looking to me with a face of Atheisme I call the Adversaries Libertines not intending to reach a blow to any godly man or to wound those who out of weaknesse are captived with that error but to breed in the hearts of the godly a detestation of that way which in truth hath its rise from Libertinisme and savoureth rankly of wide loose and bold Atheisticall thoughts of the Majesty of God as if our conscience had a Prerogative Royall beside a rule yea which is prodigious in its simple apprehensions of God of the Mediator of the revealed will of God above the Law of God For 1. This way bringeth in Aristotles 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and the worlds 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 So I thinke and all say so and our faith and hope must be resolved in the first principle of Scepticisme So it seems to me for the young daughters of the minde the simple acts of apprehending knowing beleeving God and divine truths are innocent harmelesse and ill-lesse foul-works being from under all dominion of either free-will or a divine Law and the minde a free borne absolute Princesse can no more incur guiltinesse in its operations about an infinite Sovereigne God and his revealed will by this lawlesse way then the fire can in burning the Sunne it inlightning the stone in moving downward be arraigned of any breach of Law if toleration have place 2. All certainty of beleeving all stedfastnesse rooting and unmovable establishing in the truth all life of consolations and comforts in the Scriptures all peace of heavenly confidence all joy unspeakable and full of glory all lively hope all patient and submissive waiting for the fruits of the harvest all wrestling in prayer all gloriation in tribulation and all triumphing in praising all rejoycing in Spirit being bottomed on fallible opinions on doubtfull disputations of Scepticks may be the reelings of wind-mills fair phansies and dream● for who say they is infallible and who hath known the minde of the Lord so as the truth must be monopolized to any one Sect or way who in faith or fulnesse of assurance can convince or rebuke gainsayers hereticks or such as bring another doctrine and may not you the convincers and rebukers as rather be gainsayers and Hereticks and such as bring another doctrine as those whom you so labour to convince and rebuke 3. Conscience is hereby made every mans Rule Umpire Judge Bible and his God which if he follow he is but at the worst a godly pious holy Hereticke who feareth his conscience more then his Creator and is to be judged of you a Saint 4. Hence conscience being deified all rebuking exhorting counter-arguing yea all the Ministery of the Gospel must be laid aside no man must judge brother Idolater or brother Familst or Saints to be Socinians or men of corrupt mindes perverse disputers vain-janglers wresters rackers or torturers of Scripture whose words eat as a canker who subvert whole houses who speake the visions of their owne head and see false burdens for all these were of old but are now quite gone out of the world for who can make a window in any mans soule and see there heart-obstinacy which only doth essentially constitute the heretick the blasphemer the false Prophet But is not brotherly forbearance Christian indulgence a debt we owe to brethren Saints and the truly godly in errours and mind-infirmities which by a naturall emanation or resultance get the fore-start of freewill To which I shall speak in these few considerations 1. It is much to be desired with the prayers and suits of the children of God that where there are two opinions there may be one heart that the Father of Spirits would unite the hearts of all the children of one Father and the heirs of one house 2. Papists here have exceeded in boundlesse domination and tyranny over the consciences of men and what ever is contrary to the lawlesse decrees of their Councells and Popes is an unexpiable heresie and cannot be purged but by fire and fagot 2. Who ever refuse subjection of conscience to that Enemy of Christ and to that woman-mistresse of witchcrafts on whose skirts is found the blood of the martyrs of Jesus is presently an heretick and his arguments answered with burning-quicke this tyranny over conscience we disclaime yet for that ought not the other extremity of wilde toleration to be imbraced 3. We cannot thinke but all Saints in this side of glory carry to heaven with them errours mistakes and prophesying in part and the fairest Stars and lights in this lower firmament of the Church are clouded and the benefit of the Moon serves to enlighten the under garden of Lillies where Christ feedeth till the day breake and the shadows flee away And here brotherly indulgence and reciporation of the debt of compassionate forbearance of the infirmities one of another must have place 4. Yet so as there can be no conflict of grace against grace nor can the taking off the Foxes which destroy the Vines be contrary to the gentlenesse and meeknesse of Saints in fulfilling the law of love and bearing one anothers burdens nor can love seated essentially in a new borne childe of the second birth be contrary to the zeale of God in withstanding to the face a Saint looking awry and walking not with a straight fo●● according to the truth of the Gospel which way if heeded in sincerity should breed more union of hearts and be a greater testimony of faithfulnesse to a straying sheep then our cruell meeknesse and bloody gentlenesse in a pretended bearing with tender consciences under a colour of paying the debt of bastard love while as we suffer millions to perish through silence and mercilesse condolency with them in their sinfull depraving of the Truth Farewell Yours in the Lord Jesus S. R. The Contents CHap. 1. Of Conscience and of its nature The name Conscience page 2. Conscience the practicall knowledge ibid. Conscience a power not an act or habit p. 3. What sort of knowledge is ascribed to the Conscience p. 5. Of the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 p. 8. Of Conscience in relation to the Major Assumption and Conclusion of a practicall Sylogisme p. 7. The object of Conscience p. 8. Conscience to
be reverenced ibid. Of obligation of Conscience and the acts therefrom resulting p. 10. Of witnessing of Conscience and self-reflection p. 11. The knowledge of our own state of grace may be had by the fruits of the spirit of Sanctification p. 12 Acts of Conscience in relation to the Conclusion p. 14. A Conscience good or ill p. 15. A good Conscience ibid Conscience the rarest peece that God made ibid. A tender Conscience p. 19. Who ingrosse the name of tender Consciences to themselves ibid. Of a scrupulous Conscience p. 21 The causes of a scrupulous Conscience ibid. Chap. 2. Conscience under Synods and how and that the Conscience cannot have absolute libertie in matters of Religion How a Synod compelleth p. 23. The Conditions that Libertines require to be in a Synod p. 24. Libertie to question every thing is Licence ib. The Church though not infallible may determine infallible points ib. A Confession Covenant or Synodicall decree a secondarie rule of Faith p. 25 A Ministeriall and publike and a Christian and private judgement and faith how they differ ibid. Libertines give us Sceptisme and Fluctuation for Faith p. 28 There is need of Interpretation and decision of Synods ib. That Confessions ought to be only in expresse Scripture words is ●●●ther false principle of Libertines p. 29 Ancient bonds of Liberty of Conscience p. 32 The end of Synods is not to remove heresies by any means good or bad or to crush Heresie so effectually as these Heresies shall never 〈◊〉 heard of in the world again ibid. The necessity of Synods p. 33 Pastors subject the disobedient to wrath yet are not Lords over the Conscience Ergo neither are Synods Lords ●ver the Conscience for that ib. The subject of a Synod not a Sceptick Conjecturall truth as Libertines suppose p. 34 The sence of Scripture from Synods beleeved truly to be infallible though Synods consist of men who are not infallible as an 〈◊〉 Pitcher doth contain gold and precious Rubies and Saphires in it though there be no gold in the matter of the Pitcher but only clay 2 Cor. 4. 7. ibid. How a true decision of a Synod is ever the same and not retractable p. 36 Though all truths be peremptorily decided in the word yet is there need of a Ministeriall and declarative decision of men because Teachers may deceive and those that are taught are ignorant and dull p. 37 Men are to come to Synods not as Nullifidians but as ingaged for truth p. 38. Synods may impose upon others and how ibid. Ancient bonds or Libertie of Conscience stated p. 40 The Conditionall imposing of Synods consisteth well with trying of all things what Libertines say on the contrary is naught ibid. Conditionall imposing proveth the impose● to be no Lord of the Conscience p. 42 Chap. 3. The Church may complain of Hereticks p. 43 Pastors are not out of their calling nor Apparitors nor tale-bearers if they complain to the Magistrate of Hereticks p. 44 Chap. 4. The State of the question of compulsion of Conscience and toleration p. 46. Opinions cannot be compelled nor the mind or will in the elicite acts ibid. The question is Whether the Magistrate may compulsorily restrain the externall act of the outward man in religion ibid. Shame and feare of rebukes by Pastors and Church-censures have the same compulsorie influences on false Teachers that the fear of publike punishment by the Synod hath p. 47. Church censures are as compulsorie on the Conscience as coercing by the Sword p. 48 Some externall actions of injustice flowing from meer conscience are punished justly without any note of persecution by grant of Libertines and why not all others also p. 49 Ancient bonds of Libertie of Conscience p. 50 Discountenancing of men and negative punishing of them for their Conscience is punishing of them ibid. Ancient bonds p. 12. ibid. How Religion may be compelled how not p. 51 One mans Religion remaining in the mind and will may hurt or benefit the man himself not any others but true religion as it comes forth into acts of teaching may edifie and win others and false religion may subvert the faith of others ibid. The Magistrate does not command religious acts as service to God but rather forbids their contraries as disservice to Christian Societies ibid. How Tertullian and Lactantius are to be expounded of forcing to Heathen religion ibid. Though we can compel none to Religion it follows not that the Magistrate may not punish those that seduce others to a false religion ibid. Lactantius speakes of compulsion without all teaching p. 53 Those that are without the Church are not to be compelled ibid. Because the Magistrates compulsion makes Hypocrites it followeth note hee should not punish Hereticks for so he should not punish murtherers p. 54 The Magistrate may by the sword curbe such impediments that keep men from embracing the truth according to Augustine p. 56 Answer to Doctor Adam Stewart ibid. Impotencie of free will objected by Master John Goodwin no reason why the Magistrate ought not to punish seducing teachers as of old the Donatists objected ibid. State of the question more strictly proposed p. 57 It may as well be said because there be no expresse Laws against murtherers Parricides Sorcerers Sodomites in the New Testament more then against false Teachers that therefore Sorcerers are no lesse then Hereticks to be tollerated p. 57 Chap. 5. Of Fundamentals The number of Fundamentalls p. 59 A saving disposition of faith to beleeve all truths revealed though the man be ignorant of many may consist with the state of saving grace ibid. Three things among those that are to be beleeved 1. Things simply necessarie 2. Simply profitable 3. By consequence necessarie how the Papists erre in these page 60 Some Consequences necessary ibid. Builders of Hay and stubble on the foundation may be saved and those that fall in murther and Adultery out of infirmitie may be also saved yet there is no consequence Ergo the Magistrate should tollerate both p. 61. Chap. 6. Errors in non-fundamentals obstinatly holden are punishable Obstinacie in ceremonies after full information deserveth punishment p. 62 Those that erre in non-fundamentals may deserve to be punished ibid. To teach the necessity of Circumcision not an error formally primarily but by consequence fundamentall and the contrary truth not necessary necessitate medii ibid. The toleration of all who erre in non fundamentals examined p. 64. Queries proposed to M. Joh. Goodwin who asserteth a Catholike toleration of all religions upon the ground of weaknes of freewill and want of grace p. 61 Most arguments of Libertines infer a Catholike toleration in non-fundamentals as well as in fundamentals p. 64 What deductions the Spirit makes in the soul of an elect knowing but a few fundamentals and going out of this life who knoweth p. 65. To know revealed truths of God is a commanded worship of God ibid. One generall confession of faith without a particular sense containing the true
and Orthodox meaning of the word not sufficient p. 66 Divers pious conferences betwixt us and Lutherans ibid. They hate God and love blasphemies in the consequence who obstinately hold them in the Antecedent p. 68 They may be false Teachers and so punishable who erre not in fundamentals p. 73 Divers things not fundamentaly believed with certainty of faith p. 75 Beleeving of truths revealed of God with a reserve blasphemous and turneth beleevers into Scepticks and Nullifidians p. 77 Beleeving with a reserve against the motion of the Holy Ghost p. 78 Beleeving with a reserve against the stabilitie of faith ibid. Against the trying of all things and spirits inioyned by the Holy Ghost p. 79 Faith with a reserve against our prayers for knowledge and growing therein p. 81 The Holy Ghost bids us not beleeve with a reserve p. 82 To beleeve with a reserve contrary to our doing and suffering for truth and faith p. 83 Two distinctions necessarie touching controverted points p. 85 Some things of their own nature not controversall yet the deductions from them to our blind nature are controversall ibid. Fundamentalls of faith most controversall to our blind nature p 86 Chap. 7. What opinions may be tollerated what not Some far off Errors may be tolerated p. 97 Schisme and actuall gathering of Churches out of Churches cannot be tolerated p. 98 The place Rom. 14. willing us to receive the weak no plea for toleration p. 100 Phil. 3. 15. Let us walke according to the same rule c. nothing for toleration p. 101 Chap. 8. Whether Heresie be a sin or a meer error and innocencie whether an Heretick be an evill doer Libertines make Heresie a meer innocent and unpunishable error of the mind p. 101 Heresie is a sin as wel as Idolatry though we could neither define Heresie nor Idolatry ibid. Heresie proved to be an hainous sin ibid. The Holy Ghost contrary to Libertines supposeth undeniablie that Hereticks are known and so they are not known to God only when he bids us beware of them avoid them bid them not God speed p. 105 Pertinacie may be and is known to men p. 106 Heresie a wicked resisting of the truth and yet not the blasphemie against the Holy Ghost p. 107 Libertines say that an Heretick dying for his Heresie hath no 〈◊〉 Conscience but a spirituall and heavenly end p. 108 The vain glory of the Devils Martyrs who die for Heresie p. 111 Spirituall stupidity and malice both together in Hereticks and S●t●●s Martyrs p. 113 Some ignorance consists with the sin against the Holy Ghost p. 114 Chap. 9. Of Libertie of prophecying of erroneous indictm●●● of Conscience that it is not our rule Who is an Heretick to Arminians Tit. 3. 10. p. 115 None to Libertines are Hereticks but such as professe a religion which they beleeve with perswasion to be false ibid Liberty of prophesying taken in a threefold sense p. 117 To desire false Prophets to cease out of the Land is no quenching of the Spirit p. 119 Chap. 10. Of indulgence in fundamentall or non-fundamentall errors How the Arminian Libertines doe define an Heretick p. 122 Hereticks to Libertines only such as deny things knowable by the light of nature p. 123 Diversitie of opinions among them ibid. The punishing of men for publishing of fundamentall errors and the indulgence of a Toleration yeelded to them though they teach all Errors in non-fundamentals a vain distinction and hath no gro●●● in Scripture ibid. Some murthers non-fundamentall in David which yet are consist●● with the state of salvation should as well be tolerated assome errors in non-fundamentals by the distinction of Libertines p. 124 Some non-fundamentals clearly in the word revealed not to bee beleeved with a reserve and others non-fundamentals with a reserve p. 126 Queries propounded to Libertines p. 128 Why may not the Magistrate lawfully spare the life of him who 〈◊〉 of a Libertine Conscience meerly sacrificeth his child to God or why should hee punish with the Sword some acts not des●●●ctive to peace in the Conscience of the punished and not all acts of the same kind p. 128 To compell men to ●oe against their Conscience that is to sin neither in Old or new Testament lawfull Deut. 13. and 17. p. 130 There is the same obligation the same formall reason so saith the Lord of beleeving non-fundamentall revealed and fundamentals and the same necessity of divine command not the same necessitie of means called necessit●s medii p. 132 Chap. 11. Of the obliging power of Conscience The State of the Question touching the obligation that Conscience layeth on us p. 134 Ancient bonds of Libertie of Conscience Sect. 2. Chap. 6. p. 26 p. 139 Though the Magistrate punish false Teachers it followeth not that he compells them to sin against their Conscience ibid. Gods way and manner of calling is no ground why the Magistrate should not punish false Teachers p. 141 Ancient bonds of Liberty of Conscience cap. 61 p. 26. p. 142 Who is the selfe-condemned Heretick Tit. 3. 10. ibid. Chap. 12. Arguments against pretended Toleration Toleration hath no warrant in the word p. 145 Toleration inferreth Sceptisme p. 146 Want of infallibility in the new Testament no reason for the toleration in the new Testament p. 148 Toleration is against faith hope comfort in the Scriptures p. 150 Toleration is against the Ministery of the word p. 151 Rulers by the fourth Commandment are to see all under them worship God p. 177 Proposals of the Armie under Sir Thomas Fairfax 12. p. 10. ib. Chap. 13. Magistracie and perpetuall Laws in the Old Testament warrant the civill coercing of false Prophets Rulers as Rulers not as typicall Rulers punished false Teachers with the Sword p. 177 Typicalnesse did not priviledge all the Kings of Judah and Israel to compell the Conscience and punish false Teachers as Libertines say p. 180 How typicalness priviledgeth men to such and such actions how not p. 181 Seducers punished by bodily death p. 182 Punishing of Idolaters and blasphemers of the Law of Nature p. 183 How warres that are extraordinarie in the manner and in some particular acts may be and are in the substance of the acts ordinarie ruler obliging us p. 184 The Law of God warranted by the Law teacheth that false Teachers and Hereticks are to be punished with the sword p. 185 The Law of Deut. 17. 2 3. for punishing of Idolaters p. 187 There was no consulting with the Oracle who should be put to death for his conscience in the Old Testament but an ordinarie pay of trying such evill doers by judiciall proceeding and hearing of witnesses ibid. The end of punishing of false Teachers with the sword is not their conversion to God ministers of the Gospel only labour in that field but the not perverting of souls and disturbing the safetie of humane societies p. 188 Sacrificing of Children to Molech punished with death by Gods Law not as murther but as spirituall whoredome ibid. Chap.
aggravate the fact and give light to the Judge and what testimony the Conscience giveth of the actions of man the like it is to give of the state and condition whether it be good or ill hence these acts of recognition As 1. Conscience doth its duty in reflecting on it self It tryes the mans actions and state hence these three words 2 Cor. 13. 5. try or tempt or pierce and dig into your selves 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 many dig holes and windows in the conscience of others who never digged a hole in their own heart 2. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 examine what mettall is in your selves and actions men are unwilling to find oare or drosse in themselves and we are bidden 1 Cor. 11. 31. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 lead witnesses sentence and Judge our selves To these generals there is a second act which is called Psalm 4. 5. Speake with your heart You testifie little of the man that you never heard speake Men are frequently to converse with their heart by heart-communing and soule quaerees so you find out the by as and the weight that swaies with the heart Jer. 5. 24. Neither say they in their heare let us now feare the Lord our God Hos 7. 2. They say not in their heart that I consider all their wickednesse 3 There is laying of the Consience in its reflect act and the actions together Hag. 1. 5. Lay your heart upon your wales It is that which David saith Psalm 119. 59. I considered Heb. I thoughted my wayes 4. There is wandring and estrangement of a man from his own heart when he laies his case to heart he is said to return to his own heart 1 King 8. 47. If they shall be thinke themselves heb if they shall return to their owne heart or come home to their own heart in the land of their captivitie and repent then heare then Men are abroad in their thoughts and seldom at home with their own heart But of this act of witnessing of the Conscience it is of moment to know how by what Medium or way the conscience doth witnesse to man of his state that he is a childe of God in Christ whether God doth witnesse our state and condition to us by inherent quallifications in us Because we love the brethren because we have sincere hearts and ayme in all things to obey God A●er 1. God speaketh by his owne works of Sanctification that we are in Christ 1 Joh. 2. 3. And hereby we know that we know him because we keepe his commandements 1 Joh. 3. 14. We know that we have passed from death to life because we love the Brethren Now as God speaketh and revealeth his glory God-head power and eternitie by his visible works of creation so as we may gather by certainty of faith that God is glorious wise omnipotent eternall Rom. 1. 19 20 21. Psal 19. 1 2 3 4. Rom. 10. 17 18 19 20 Upon them grounds when we finde in our soules the works of that spirit that raised the Lord from the death as love to the brethren because brethren sincere walking with God and Christs life Gal. 2. 20. we may with the certainty of faith collect that we are the children of God and if the knowledge of our state in Christ from the works of Sanctification be but conjecturall and may deceive us and not a sufficient foundation of sound peace nor enough to make us unexcusable that from the sicknesse of inward heart-love which I feele in my owne soule to Christ I can have no divine assurance that I am in Christ and cannot be made inexcusable in not beleeving the spirit dwelleth in me by his acting and working then we cannot inferre Gods infinite wisdome omnipotencie and eternity from his works of Creation and I cannot be inexcusable if I beleeve not Gods wisdome and power from the works of creation is not the pertinacie of unbeleefe as damnable when I beleeve not God acting in his Spirit as sanctifying as when I beleeve not God acting in this first workmanship of Creation 2. In all the actings motions and walkings of the Holy Ghost in my soule in the stirrings of the New birth when the spirit of Jesus maketh a noise with his feet walking acting moving in love joy peace long-suffering gentlenesse goodnesse meeknesse temperance which are apples and blossomes which grow on the tree of life Gal. 5. 22 23. It were no sinne to me to sleepe and beleeve these were but imaginary dreames and phancied notions if I ware not to beleeve where these are the soule that findeth them undenyably is in Christ 3. The Saints comforting themselves in their godly sincere and blamelesse walking before God in love knew what they spoke and what spirit was in them and that they walked not after the flesh as men speake and phancie in a night dreame not knowing whether they be in Christ or not these were speeches of waking men whose wits were in action Psalm 26. 8. Lord I have loved thy habitation and the place where thine honour dwelleth Psal 119. 63. I am a companion of all them that feare thee and of them that keepe thy precepts vers 97. O how love I thy law it is my meditation all the day vers 103. How sweet are thy words unto my taste Yea sweeter then honey to my mouth vers 111. Thy Testimonies have I taken as an heritage for ever for they are the rejoycing of my heart vers 162. I rejoyce at thy word as one that findeth 〈◊〉 great spoile and the Church Cant. 2. 3. I sate downe under his shaddow and his fruit was sweet to my taste ver 5. Stay me with flagons and comfort mee with apples for I am sick of love Esay 26. 9. With my soule have I desired thee in the night yea with my spirit within me I will seeke thee early And Ezekiah looking to his good Conscience saith Ezech. 39 3. Remember now O Lord that I have walked before thee in truth and with a perfect heart So Paul 2 Cor 1. 12. For our rejoycing is this the testimony of our Conscience that in simplicitie and godly sincerity not with fleshly wisdome but by the grace of God we had our conversation in the world and more abundantly to you-wards Now if the Saints can thus speake with the light and perswasion of Faith before God and men to their owne solid peace and consolation then may they be perswaded by these fruits of the Spirit that they are branches growing in the Vine Christ else all these speeches are but delusions and phancies and they must speake no other thing of themselves as vessels of the grace of God then hypocrits 〈◊〉 reprobates may say of themselves For D. Crispe and also Libertines of New England whose doctrine subverts the Faith say there can be no marks of saving grace from whence we can draw either comfort or peace be it universall obedience st●●rity love to the Brethren but it may bee
Physitian who can whol broken consciences or the saddest enemie if sick it is like an aking tooth the more you touch it the more it paines you The Conscience of its owne nature is a knowing power of the practicall understanding a● therefore no ilicite acts of the foule can be compelled nei●●er can Conscience act being muzled and forced but this 〈…〉 but that men and devills in their conscience 〈…〉 beleeve many things in some 〈◊〉 against their will 〈…〉 out of the naturall efficacie of conscience cannot 〈◊〉 but ●ee must beleeve that there is a God yet where there is a trembling there must be some reluctancie in the will and affections Juda● must beleeve his damnation was approuching when he hanged himselfe but against his heart The Balgick Ar●i●ia●s who contend for libertie of conscience in all wayes Apol. 95. 〈…〉 say By determinations of Synods violence i● not offered to conscience as conscience signifieth a meere internall act of the mind immanent or byding within the mind but as conscience signifieth an act of the mind by which any doth beleeve 〈…〉 oblieged 〈◊〉 teach others which he per 〈◊〉 himselfe to 〈…〉 so the man is compelled by a Synods prescription to dissemble what he beleeveth he ought to professe and which he beleeveth to be false Answ Say that the decision of the Synod be agreeable to the word the Lord layeth on the coaction to all to beleeve and accordingly professe the truth and that by a Synod as Christ saith he that heareth you heareth me so the coaction such as it is must come principally from God instrumentally from the Synod but it floweth from both by accident and through mens abuse who receive not the truth in love but for feare of shame least they should by the godly goe for perverters of soules Act. 15. that they doe hypocritically professe what they ought sincerely to beleeve and professe May we not say many men of corrupt minds beleeved Circumcision to be necessary and yet for feare of the Apostles censure that they should be judged troublers of souls lyars and false teachers as they are judged to bee Act. 15. 24. would dissemble And they are no other wayes by a Synodicall truth compelled to lie and dissemble by shame and falling out of the hearts of the Apostles and of all the godly the one way than the other in that case than in this 〈◊〉 For there be but two wayes of working on the mind to drive men to bee of another opinion one by feare either of shame reproach or censures civill or ecclesiasticall another by meere teaching and instructing Now for the libertie of prophecying that Arminia●s require and so the libertie of Synods let us inquire if it be true libertie 1. They require a full libertie to every man without scruple or feare of danger to declare his mind in Synods and to examine what is controverted Answ It is in some respect commendable that hereticks be candid and ingenuous to declare even what their hereticall judgement and inditement of conscience leades them to beleeve but a full liberty to question in the Synode whether there be a God or no or whether Christ dyed for sinners ought not to be for that is lycense and hereticall lycense a point controverted any may question and these that Act. 15. held necessitie of circumcision might seeke resolution of their arguments and doubts but under pretext of libertie free of feare and danger they have not libertie to sinne that is after they are or may be if wilfulnesse stood not in their way inwardly convinced they have not libertie obstinately to presse sophismes against the truth for this is an undenyable principle libertie to sinne is fleshly lycense not libertie Armin. In controversies of Religion which the Scripture doth not evidently decide what can certainely be determined by the Church which ever and in every thing which it determines is beleeved may erre Answ There is nothing that the Scripture hath left simple and in it selfe controversall Act●● primo the Scripture hath determined of all things conteined in it whether fundamentals or not fundamentals onely in regard of our dulnesse and sinfull blindnesse some things are controverted and therefore the Church may determine from light of the word some thing that was a controversie to the Fathers ignorant of the originall tongues which is now no controversie Yea the fallible Church may determine infallible points This is a principle that Libertines proceed upon that men who are not infallible may erre and therefore can hold forth to others no infallible truth Which is most false for Prophets and Apostles Nathan Samuel David Peter being deserted of the immediately inspiring Spirit did erre as well as the Church and Pastors now deserted of the ordinary Spins can and doe erre For ●●ll men Prophets and Apostles are 〈◊〉 Rom. 3. yet they may and doe carrie infallible truth to others 〈◊〉 blind man may hold a candle to others 3. By this reason Pastors can preach nothing certaine in fundamentals though faith come by hearing and faith is of a certaine and determinate fixed truth of God more permanent than heaven or earth why because by this reason Pastors in preaching fundamentals are not infallible 4. Nor is this a good reason it is beleeved the Church may erre in Synods ergo it doth erre and determines nothing that is infallible and certaine in Synods no more then this is a good consequence David may sinne in praying ergo he doth sinne in praying a potentia ad actum non valet consequentia Armin. A confession is not a rule of faith it hath not the lowest place in the Church Answ The Covenant written and sealed in Nehemiahs time was a secondarie rule of faith and a rule e'n so farre as it agreed with the Law of Moses for they enter in a curse and an oath to walke in Gods Law not to give their sonnes and daughters in marriage to the Heathen not to buy victuals from the Heathen on the Sabboth to charge themselves to give money to maintain the service of God Nehe. 9. 38. chap. 10. 1 2 3. 29 30. 31 32. Which written Covenant was not Scripture and Act. 15. the decrees of the Synod was not formally Scripture yet to bee observed as a secondary rule For so farre Arminians A Doctor as a Doctor beleeveth not a Doctor beleeveth as a sheepe not as a shepheard and his judgement of matters of faith is not publick but private and common to teachers with every one of the sheepe and there is a like and equall power in shepheard and every one of the flock of beleeving and the sheepe in matters of faith are no more obleiged to stand to the judgement of the shepherd than the teachers to the judgement of the sheepe the teachers have a priviledge of order and honor above the sheepe but no priviledge of Law and power Then the Church though she beleeve
that men should believe because so saith a Synod But all the mysterie is though a Synod should determine a truth an hundred times according to the word yet if the conscience say it is no truth the determination of a Synod doth not obliedge at all say Libertines because the conscience according to the minde of Libertines is the nearest obleidging rule but any thing obleidgeth not to obedience and faith as it appears either true or good to our conscience for to kill the Apostles appears lawfull to commit adulterie and murther appeareth good to many yet are not men obleidged to kill the Apostles or to commit adulterie Armini If a thing be determined out of the word of God by a Synod then was that thing before determined in the word of God and yet that must be examined in a Synod which is supposed to be decyded in the word what need is there of a Synodicall examination of that which is supposed to be lyable to no errour for so must the word of God be examined Answ What the Bereans heard the Apostle Paul preach Act. 17. 11 12. was the verie Gospel determined in the Scriptures of the Prophets what then needed they try the Gospel or examine what is infallible in private among themselves more then in publick Synods this argument is against the Apostles rule Try all things and try the Spirits whether they be of God or not for sure these rules warranted them to examine Paul Peter and Johns doctrine and Spirits and finding them to be truths decyded in the word to receive them therefore after there is a Scripturall decision it doth not follow that there should not be a Declarative or Ministeriall decision by Synods and by pastours preaching the Gospel For this doth close subvert all Ministery and Preaching and all trying of the Spirits nor is it hence concluded that we examine the word of God as if it could be false but that we are both in private and in publicke to examine and try whether that which is proposed to us as the word of God be the word of God or no But wee examine and suspect the credit of men who may and can lye Secondly but this supposeth that what ever is brought under a Synodicall discussion is false or at least fallible which is a most false principle of Libertines and that nothing which is the word of God should fall under a Synodicall discussion to be tryed which is true thus farre the word of God as it is the word of God is not to be tried nor determined but in reference to messengers who are but sinfull men and can deceive and to our dulnesse and sinfull ignorance there is need that a Ministerie and Synods help us with declarative and misteriall declarations untill we be where they shall not need a Temple And what Libertines say the same said Anabaptists so Bu●●inger saith Anabaptists taught that the Evangelist should be recited without words casting it that is without preaching and that every man was free to interpret the Scripture as he will and that the interpretation of Scripture is not the word of God So that the peoples conscience and private sense is their Scripture and rule of faith we need not then Scripture every mans sense is his Rule which yet is not so good divinity as the heathen Melytus accused Socrates of and thought Socrates was worthie to die for that such as the people beleeveth to be gods he believeth to be nothing such but thinketh there be some new Dieties and was it a crime that Socrates thought the peoples lust was no good rule in divinitie Armini All should be admitted to Synods because Religion concerneth the Conscience of all or if it be confusion to admit all to come yet should no decision be except first all the Church be acquainted with the businesse Answ God never appointed all and every one to lay burdene and Directories or Lawes upon themselves as is cleare Act. 15. God keeps ever that order in his Church of some to teach and some to be taught of some to obey and some to be over others in the Lord that before Lawes bee made that concerne the conscience there should be a reference of all made to the people and they acquainted with reasons from the word of God before a decision we shall not condemn but it is nothing against us Armini These that come to Synods ought to be ingaged to be Church or to no Confession But every way free Answ Then such as convened in a Synod in the Church of Pergamus and Thyatira should not be principled in the faith of Christ and his truth against the deeds of the Nicolaitanes with whom fornication went for a thing indifferent or against such as hold the doctrine of Balaam or Jezabel they must all come as indifferent to absolve as to condemn the Nicholaitanes and the false Prophetesse Jezabel But Paul and Barnabus came to the Councell of Jerusalem as Members thereof being fore engaged to condemn Circumcision as not necessary to salvation and had preached against such a necessitie and yet were not byassed Voters in the Assembly and by this reason if Fundamentals be to be established in a Synod and the contrary errours to be refuted when Doctours come to a Synod they must leave faith and soundnesse of faith at home and come to the Synod with purpose to buy and bargain there for a new faith And let all men come thither as Scepticks and Nullifidians and goe so also away believing with a reserve that that the Synod hath determined may be a lie But as Arminians take true libertie of free-will to be an absolute power to doe ill or well stand or fall eternally so they judge that Libertie of prophecying is a Liberty to teach and believe Indifferently either lies or truth heresies or sound doctrine whereas libertie to doe ill in any sense is licentiousnesse not libertie Armini The question is not whether a man when he judges right can erre for who can affirme that but whither either a man or a Church who judgeth rightly according to the word of God have any law or power to command and injoyn others to receive and believe what they have rightly Judged and that without controversie for no man is obleidged to receive and beleive a truth which a Synod unanimously or for the most part hath truely judged because the Synod hath so judged or sayth so Answ But Libertines make such a question for they affirm that a Synod doth never judge so rightly but we must believe what they judge with a reserve and so that what they determine is false or may the next day be false Secondly we conceive that God hath given to some one single Pastour and farre more to a Synod of Pastours and Doctors a power to rebuke teach exhort with all authoritie 2. Tim. 41. 2. To charge Tit. 2. 14. them before the Lord. 1. Tim. 6.
till James fully determined the question from the word of God v. 13 14 15 16. then it is most clear that these that erre in other points that are not fundamentals in which all Christians agree may be perverters of souls and so deserve to be rebuked by the Church and punished 3. This opinion of so 〈◊〉 ring all save such as erre in fundamentals though they 〈◊〉 non fundamentals is grounded upon this that the Scripture is evidently plain and clear in fundamentals but in other points 〈◊〉 non-fundamentals the Scripture is dark and in regard of the darknesse and naturall ignorance of our minde which is in●●cible almost we must forbear one another and give and take elbow-roome and latitude of indulgence because the Magistrate and Church are not infallible but both Godly and learned may be on each side so that there should be no peace nor union of hearts in Christian societies but all Churches or earth must disband and be dissolved if each should punish and censure one another for holding contrary tenets But 1. Mr. John Goodwine who contendeth for a Catholicke tolleration of all of any Religion whatsoever whither they erre in fundamentals or non-fundamentals and his words because nnanswerable to me against this distinction I set down I desire it be taken saith he to serious consideration 〈◊〉 or how farre it is meet to punish or censure poor miserable men for not holding or not asserting the truth of these things which they cannot come without much labour and contention of minde yea not without some good degree of some reason and understanding too to judge so much as probable nor at all to come to believe or know them certainly but onely by an immediate and supernaturall work of the Spirit of God● are 〈◊〉 to be punished because God hath not imparted to them his Spirit of grace and supernaturall illumination This learned and sharp witted Divine as any I see of that way confirms me much that tolleration in non-fundamentals and non-tolleration in errours fundamentall is a distinction cannot subsist in the way that Libertines in England now goe for to know or believe supernaturall non-fundamentals as the histories of the miracles of Christ the Prophets and Apostles requires a work of the Spirit of grace and supernaturall illumination is to know or believe fundamentalls why then should men be punished for holding errours in the one and not in the other and the conscience cannot be compelled in the one more then in the other but with favour I desire an answer to these quaeries Quaere 1. Whether men deserve to be pitied and spoken of compassionately as poore miser 〈…〉 which they 〈…〉 work of the Spirit of grace and supernaturall 〈…〉 the false Prophet Deut 13. and Elima● the perverter of the Gospel deserves to be pi●ied Query 2. Hence whether the sinfull blindnesse of our in 〈◊〉 that makes us because poor and miserable 〈…〉 must not black the spotlesse justice of our Lord who yet punisheth originall mind-blindnesse in thousands of the sons of Adam Query 3. Whether this hinteth not at 〈…〉 power of believing and doing what we can otherwise God cannot deny further grace or punish that naturall impotency of not knowing or not believing Quer. 4. Whether the same query may not be retorted upon the Justice of Gods law Deut. 13. 〈…〉 thus whether is it mee● that the just God should command a poo●● miserable seducing Jew who saith Let us go and worship strange Gods since this miserable impostor being a son of sin and wrath by nature cannot come without much labour and contention of mind yea nor without some good degree of reason to judge so much as it is probable nor at all to believe or know certainly that 〈◊〉 no● the true God but the God of the Jews onely excluding on the world from saving means of salvation is the onely true God onely to be served and worshipped but onely by an immediate and supernaturall work of the Spirit of God are men either Jews under the Law or Gen●●les under the Gospel to be punished and stoned to death because God hath not ●●parted to them his Spirit of Grace and supernaturall 〈◊〉 Quer. 5. Is it meet to punish David suppose he were no King for adultery and treacherous murther since without a worke of the Spirit of Grace who only effectually 〈…〉 being led into temptation he cannot eschew the 〈◊〉 into adultery and murther are men-adulterer● and men murtherers to be punished because God hath not imparted ●●to them his Spirit of grace by whose actuall assistance only they can decline adultery and marther● Quer. 6. Whether did even 〈…〉 teach that the Magistrate should punish with the sword poor miserable men because they canot believe 〈◊〉 of faith by the supernaturall illumination of the Spirit whether is 〈◊〉 the question perverted when a Query is made whether the Magistrate is to punish poor men for not understanding not 〈◊〉 not judging not believing supernaturall truths we say the Magistrate or his sword hath nothing to do with the elect and internal acts of the minde of understanding knowing judging or believing but onely with the externall acts of speaking teaching 〈◊〉 ●ishing dangerous and pernitious doctrines to the 〈◊〉 and destraction of the soules of others Quer. 7. Whether the Magistrate does therefore force the conscience of a false teacher because he cannot he dare not keep up doctrines pornicious to the souls of others but publish them because his erroneous and evill conscience judgeth them to be saving and necessary truths when the Magistrate punisheth him more then he forceth the conscience of a murtherer whom he punisheth though this murtherer judged in his conscience that the man be killed did him so crying and oppressive an injury as in the court of God deserved bodily death or when this man murthered his son in a sacrifice to God out of meer conscience Quer. 8. Whether or no this divine who will have 〈◊〉 to be punished for erring in fundamentalls because they believe them not doth not say none that teacheth there is ●● God that Jesus Christ is a grand impostor and faller 〈◊〉 the truth and saith Satha● is the only God of this world and 〈◊〉 to be served ought to be so much as rebuked for without the immediate and supernaturall worke of the Spirit of God they cannot know or believe these truthe and are men to be rebuked and preached against because God hath not imparted to them his Spirit of grace whether doth not this arguing evict all the Ministery rebukes and exhortation and morall extirpating of heresies by the power of the word Quer. 9. Whether this be not the old argument of 〈◊〉 who argued from liberty of free-will to conclude liberty of conscience and said forcing of free-will if the Magistrate hinder men to be a willing people to Christ is an injury done to conscience and to free-will and to God the Creat●● of the soule and the same
might be objected against the decree of 〈…〉 Quer. 10. Whether on 〈◊〉 are men punished because God 〈◊〉 not bestow the Spirit of grace 〈◊〉 them by which they would flye all evill-doing when they are punished for evill-doing Quer. 11. Whereas this distinct argument presupposeth that the Magistrate should tolerate errors in fundamentalls and in non-fundamentalls because of the difficulty of knowing of fundamentalls must it not follow that men are far rather to be tolerated 〈◊〉 ●●re in fundamentalls 〈◊〉 such as erre in non-fundamentalls and so the more blasphemous that seducing teachers be as if they deny there is a God and that nature and chante rules all and that Christ was an imposter the Gospel a fable the Scripture a meer 〈◊〉 the more they are to be pitied and 〈◊〉 measure of indulgence and toleration is due to them then to such ●● are godly and erre but in lesser points that are more easily 〈…〉 concerning usury accidentall killing of our neighbour or the meaning of some places of Scripture or erre in matters touching Church-government or the like Quer. 12. Since also 〈◊〉 lay for a ground that the Magistrate is not infallible in judging of matters of Religion especially that are supernaturall such as the mysteries of the Gospell the incarnation sufferings and death of Christ his satisfaction for sinners c. and Christians are not infallible in either reaching these to others or in believing them for their faith and practise and therefore the Magistrate ought to tolerate all these how then can this Divine talke of a certainty of knowing and teaching and holding of divine truthe●● for by 〈◊〉 principle of toleration that no man hath infallibility in matters of Religion since the Prophets and Apostles fell asleepe there can be no certainty of faith either in ruler or people but all our faith in fundamentalls or non-fundamentalls must be fallible dubious conjectu●●● And for such as yeeld a toleration in non-fundamentalls but deny it in fundamentals 1. They must quit all arguments used by Libertin●● for toleration from the nature of conscience that it can not be constrained 2. That they 〈◊〉 bee a willing people that follow Christ 3. That 〈◊〉 Lord of the conscience onely 4. That co●pulsion 〈◊〉 hypocrites 5. That to know maintaine a●d 〈◊〉 truths of the Gospel is not in our power as to kill or 〈◊〉 to kill because acts of the understanding fall not 〈◊〉 dominion of free-will 6. That the preaching of the 〈◊〉 and perswading by Scripture and reason not the sword and strong hand is the way to propagate truth and 〈◊〉 pate heresies 7. That the laws of Moses against false 〈◊〉 were onely typicall and perished with other 〈◊〉 and therefore there is no warrant under the N●● Testament for punishing hereticks all these and the like 〈◊〉 with equall strength conclude against toleration of such 〈◊〉 erre in non-fundamentalls as well as in fundamentall 〈◊〉 in neither the one not the other is the conscience to ●●●strained nor can Magistrates be Lords of the 〈◊〉 fundamentalls more then in non-fundamentalls and 〈◊〉 must be a willing people in fundamentalls as in non-fundamentalls nor can the sword but preaching of the word onely be a means of propagating of non-fundamentalls more then of fundamentalls when then Libertines 〈◊〉 lost all these arguments by reason of this 〈◊〉 which here hath no place their cause must bee weake and leane To determine what is fundamentall what not and the number of fundamentall points and the least measure of knowledge of fundamentals in which the essence of saving faith may consist or the simple want of the knowledge of which fundamentalls is inconsistent 〈◊〉 saving faith in minimo quod non is more then Magistrat● or Church can well know Sure it borders with one of Gods secrets touching the finall state of salvation or damnation of particular men And it is as sure this is a fundamentall to belie●● that God is that hee is a rewarder of those that seeke hi● that there is not a name under Heaven by which men may 〈◊〉 saved but by the Name of Jesus that no man 〈◊〉 come to the Father but by Christ that hee that 〈◊〉 not the wrath of God abideth on him and he is condemned 〈◊〉 then he was condemned and under wrath before even from the wombe Nor is this a good argument of Bellius where Christ is what he doth how he sits at the right hand of God how he is one with the Father many things of the Trinity of God Predestination Angels the state of men after this life are points not so necessary to be known for publicans and harlots who enter into heaven may be ignorant of them and though they were knowne they make not a man better according to that if I had all knowledge if I have not love it is nothing For 1. The exact knowledge of these are not so necessary and that is all that this argument can conclude but the Scripture saith no more that publicans and harlots remaining publicans and harlots enter into the Kingdome of heaven in sensu composito nor when it saith The blinde see the deafe heare the dead are raised the meaning should be blinde and deafe remaining blinde and deafe doe see and heare or the dead remaining dead in their graves and void of life doe live and have life but these that were blinde now see when blindnesse is removed otherwise some may take harlotry into heaven with them and because the word of God is a seed when this is in the heart of a dying harlot Christ came to save sinners and to save me how or what way the Spirit sits upon this egge and warmes it and what births of saving truths the Spirit joyned with the spirit of a dying man brings forth who knowes the repenting thiefe knew Christ to be the Saviour of men and a King who could dispose of heaven but what deductions the Spirit made with in who knows nor is it a truth that the knowledge of any revealed truths of God makes no man the better for it leanes on this ground That 1. The spirituall Law of God commands not a conformity between the understanding power of the soule and the Law to require that the minde conceive apprehend and know God and his will as he reveales himselfe to us which yet is included in the command of loving of God with all the heart with all the soule with all the strength and so with all the minde though that knowledge be directed to no other practice but beliefe 2. It leanes upon another false ground that to believe I speake of an intellectuall assenting to divine truth● it being an act of the understanding and a necessary result of knowledge doth not make a man better which yet is most false for beside that it is commanded not to believe a re●●aled truth is a sin and renders men morally ill and wor●● now that text that saith 1 Cor. 13.
the house of God Psal 69. of the betraying of him by Judas and 〈◊〉 historicall things that are not fundamentals yet all th●● were a part of the Apostles and the Holy Ghosts testimony Act. 5. 32. And to be beleeved with divine certi●ude of 〈◊〉 faith no lesse then the Articles of fundamentalls that Christ was the sonne of man and died for our sinnes and rose for our righteousnes except we say that the Apostles are false witnesses and make God a lyar in saying that Judas betrayed him not and that Barrabas a Murtherer was not preferred to him 1 Cor 15. 1● Job 3. 33. 1 Job 5. 10. For if we give God the lye in non-fundamentals and turne non-fundamentals into controversies and conjectures and thinke we must beleeve fundamentals one or two fixedly and peremptorily and lead a good life and so we are saved but not otherwise but as touching non-fundamentalls we may beleeve these with a reserve and a demurre and may beleeve them for a day or an houre and deny them to morrow and again bee carried about with a new wind of doctrine and beleeve the third day and deny them the fourth day beleeve them the fift day and deny them the sixt day and so make a whirly-gigge of our faith and a new faith for a new-moone or for a halfe and a quarter moone as the Independents in their Apology makes this a principle of their faith to beleeve these things so as wee leave roome for a new light to cast a board again at the blowing of the wind of a new phancy of which we have seene more in the Assembly of Divines these four years past then we desire to see in any that professe godlinesse and as the Holland-Arminians say from whom new lights or old darknesses have their rise a faith of a thousand yeares may be the worst of all which say we is most false a false opinion of God and a thousand yeare old lye a gray-haird untruth is the worst of conjectures but faith it neither is nor can be called But the late Independents and the new Libertines of England do only say such a monthly faith is to be tollerated because of the darkenes of our mind in the matters of God which yet is faith not but a conjectural opinion But they say by a command of God we must have no other faith except in some few fundamentals and no man since Adam died except the man Christ ever knew or could determine how few or how many so our faith in fundamentals in that totters for they say these precepts and commands of the Holy Ghost Try the spirits whither they be of God or no. Try al things hold that which is good the example of the noble Bereans who examined Pauls doctrine by the Scriptures doth lay a divine command in them to beleeve non-fundamentals with a reserve Yea they say with the Arminians c. that it is against liberty of prophesying whereas liberty of lying in the name of the Lord is of the devil who hath taken liberty or rather helish licence to lye from the beginning they say it is against our growing in knowl●dge and the prayers of the Saints that God would open their eyes to see the wonders of his Law and lead them into all truth and against the prophesies that in the last days the earth shal be filled with the knowledg of the Lord the light of the moon shal be as the light of the sun and the light of the sun as the light of seven days and the day star shal arise in the hearts of many and the spirit shall be powred on all flesh young and old maids and children To all which I say either the Spirit of God moves men to the faith of this there is no Church visible on earth but such as is constituted of beleevers such as those of Corinth and Rome and others were after they were planted and watered by the Apostles or no. If no they have not faith of it and so it is 1. No truth of God to Independents c. for which they can suffer but a meer opinion then they cannot suffer for it in faith and to beleive any truth of God because the Lord so saith is wrought only by the Holy Ghost if it be wrought by the Holy Ghost then it is a truth of God and a divine truth for the Holy Ghost moves no man to beleeve a lye for a truth of God if it be a divine truth then doth not the Holy Ghost will you so to beleeve it for a truth as you must upon a new light beleeve the contrary to morrow For I renew the argument in its full strength touching the faith of the contradicent which you beleeved the last day either the Holy Ghost must move you to beleeve that contradicent as a truth of God or no I● no It is not divine faith you have of it if yea then the faith of the former was the beleeving of a lye so that you must make the Holy Ghost the father of beleeving a lye 2. The object of divine faith a lye 2 This is to teach us to be carried about with every wind of doctrine whereas faith of fundamentals or non-fundamentals is to beleeve a truth because so saith the Lord that cannot lye nor speake untruth but you will men to beleeve those non-fundamental truths so as they may bee as well lyes as divine truths 3. These Precepts Try the Spirits Try all things enjoyne an examination of fundamentalls as well as non-fundamentalls and what reason have Independents to say these Precepts hold in non-fundamentalls onely Mr. John Goodwin with better ground saith they hold in all for must we hold that which is good onely in non-fundamentalls And did not the Bereans try Pauls doctrine by the Scripture in the most and onely necessary fundamentall which Paul preached that Jesus Christ was the Messiah that dyed rose againe Act. 17. 3. and are therefore commended by the Holy Ghost v. 10. 11 above those of Thessalonica and must wee beleeve every Spirit who preach fundamentall truths or fundamentall errours who say Christ is not yet come in the flesh upon trust the contrary of which John expresly enjoyneth 1 Joh. 4. 1 2 3 yea we are rather to try fundamentalls and to walke upon sure and unmoveable principles since an errour here hazardeth our eternall salvation and is of as great concernment as our souls are but errours or mistakes in non-fundamentalls though they bee sinnes yet are consistent with saving faith and the state of salvation 4. Try all things try the spirits must have this sense beleeve what ever God saith be it fundamentall or non-fundamentall not onely after you have searched the Scriptures and sound it agreeable thereunto as the Bereans did but though you finde it consonant to the writings of the Prophets and Apostles yet because you are not infallible nor the Spirit that leads you therein
the world As if a robber arraigned upon his head before a judge would say there is no such thing in the world as Robbery it is a meere fiction or their reasons partinary which we say is the formal reason and essence of heresie is onely in the heart and knowne to God onely and therefore since neither the Church nor the Magistrate know the heart we must leave it to God all mens judgements of the heart are uncertain and deceiving conjectures no man of set purpose desires to doe evill but when hee knowes he does evill no man perswades himselfe that he erreth when the matter is about eternall salvation therefore it is not lawfull to charge any heretick that he acts malice against his light charity perswadeth another thing and who knowingly saith Minus Celsus and willingly sinnes against the knowne truth his crime is not properly heresie but the sin and blasphemy against the holy ghost for whom we are not to pray and is a sin that shall never be pardoned and therefore it is in vaine to accuse this man of heresie Answ This vaine argument of foolish men is against the Holy Ghost not against us for charity then must forbid us to judge evill of our brother or to beware of him to avoide him to admonish or rebuke him for heresie for a sin knowne to God onely or to reject him or to refuse him lodging in our house or to bid him God speed for you condemn him and flee and avoyd him as an Heretick and in so doing ye take Gods office on you to judge the heart now when the Holy Ghost bids us admonish rebuke instruct with meeknesse Heretickes if they wil not be gained reject and avoid them doth he not clearly hold forth that Hereticks may be knowne When Solomon saith goe not by the doore of the whore make no friendship with an angry●man be not companions with theeves and robbers doth he not insinuate that the whore and the angry man and the theefe may be known or would he say the whore is onely knowne to God and charity forbids you to judge any wom●n a whore or any teacher who saith he would show you the str●ight way to heaven and the way that he himselfe walketh in and no man perswades himselfe that he erreth when the matter is concerning his owne eternall salvation and it is onely knowne to God whether he be an Hereticke or no yet admonish him at an Heretick and reject him and avoid his company as a Heretick This is as much as if a Phisitian would say it is impossible to any man to know save God onely what houses are infected with the pestilence yet I councell you for your health goe not into any pest-house 2 It is most false that pertinacy is knowne to God only that pertinacy that evidenceth it selfe to us by such markes and outward evidences is knowne to us as such a Familist a Socinian leadeth silly women captive and subverteth the faith of many and causeth simple people to beleeve the God manifested in the flesh and crucified is nothing but a Saint-suffering and having much of God and saving grace evidenced in him and he is ones and twice by word and writing admonished but he still goeth on and seduceth many then he is so farre pertinacious as ye may judge him an Heretick and having tryed that hee is an hereticall spirit avoid him and bid him not God speed doth not Paul exhort the Elders of Ephesus to take heede of ravening Wolves that should arise and speake 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 perverse things to draw away disciples after them and they should not spare the flock Act. 20. 29 30. Yea but our ab●ominable Libertines come in and say Elders of Ephesus be charitable judge them not to be grievous wolves least ye condemn them for wolves before men who are the redeemed sheepe of Christ in the high court it is true they speake perverse things as yee apprehend but Elders are you infallible now when Paul and the Apostles are departed this life they judge that you speake perverse things and ye are the grievous wolves You heare them speake new doctrines it is true but you know not whether they be pertinacious pertinacy is in the heart onely be charitable for only God knowes the heart say not 〈◊〉 the flocke they are ravening wolves seducers and that knowingly and willingly they sin against the knowne truth no man erreth dedi●● opera of set purpose nor perswades himselfe that he erres when the matter is concerning eternall salvation charity forbids you to ascribe malitiousnesse of erring to men who erre not with their will and you Church and Angell of the Churches of Pergamus and of Thyat●ra be charitable and judge not those that teach the doctrine of Balaam and Jezabell to be false Prophets you heare their words but God only tryeth the reignes and the heart you know not whether they teach what they teach with pertinacy all judging of the minde and heart of others are uncertaine conjectures neither they nor any other doe give beleeving and being perswaded that they erre when the matter is of such concernment as eternall salvation 3. Nor is the crime the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost when any doe maliciously resist the truth 1. When there is not a high measure of illumination and perswasion going before which is not in every hereticke 2. When pertinacy is bent against a side and party of godly men not so much for despite and malice against them as they are godly or out of despite to the Spirit of grace as out of a minde puft up with love-sicknesse of their owne learning and great parts and undervaluing of a contrary faction as they suppose for there be divers branches of opposing the knowne truth as from fleshly lusts 2 Pet. 2. 17. 18. 2 Pet. 3. 3. from pride 1 Tim. 6. 3 4 5. from avarice and love of the world v. 5. 2 Pet. 2. 3. 15 16. and yet all maliciously that are not to be judged the sin against the Holy Ghost except it be such an opposing of the knowne truth as comes from the spirituall malicious opposing of God and his knowne truth as the devills did and it may be also that some heretickes sin the sin against the Holy Ghost in teaching lyes in hypocrisie as the Pharisees did who leave not off for that to be hereticks and false teachers 4. Where men are savingly and soundly perswaded that the businesse is a matter of salvation they will not finally and totally erre but that there is such a perswasion in heretickes is utterly denyed by us and where there is a perswasion in great measure but literall and historicall and faith thereunto answerable that the matter is eternall salvation and damnation that they doe not erre and lead other captives to their error is denyed and it is more charity of hereticks who are selfe-condemned by their owne heart Tit. 3. 10. and are willingly
your authority were infallible as that of the Apostles was the answer would have some colour though the Apostles used not that authority to crush liberty of prophesying but they commend the trying of the Spirits and since our judgement is not infallible reason requires that we should not desire other spirits pious and good to be oppressed and suffocated Answ We reject no Spirit because it agrees not with ours for our Spirit is not the rule as Libertines contend but because it swerves from the oracles of God if any man speake let him speake as the oracles of God let us prophesie according to the proportion of faith 2. This answer saith that no man now in the Christian Church can try all things doctrines and spirits and refuse the evil and deluding spirits hold fast that which is good and beleeve the spirits speaking from God because it is to extinguish the Spirit say our Libertines since we are not infallible Apostles to judge these Spirits for mad phansies that agree not with our Spirit we say its impossible to try all things and hold that which is good but we must judge false spirits to bee false spirits not because they agree not with ours that is the calumny of Libertines but because they swerve from the word of truth though we be not infallible as the Apostles were but this reason supposeth that because of want of Apostolick infallibility we should try all spirits and all doctrines but condemn reject and refuse none as spirits of the devill for that is to extinguish the spirit and pitch and settle our faith upon no doctrine but like Scepticks sail about the coasts of truth all our life and dye in no beliefe at all 3 It is false that the Apostles did not crush your liberty of prophesying for Paul 2 Thess 2. 2. extinguisheth those spirits who would shake the faith of the Thessalonians to make them beleeve that the day of Christ was at hand for he forbids to beleeve them and John extinguisheth the Familistical and Antichristian spirits who denied C●rist to be come in the flesh O but say Libertines these false spirits knew what they preached to be lyes and yet preached them as from God and wee stand for no such liberty of prophesying nor such spirits as these Answ This is a conjecture that they beleeved the day of Christ was not near hand and yet preached it was near there is not one shaddow in the text or colour hinteth that way for Familists and Seducers now have not so much to say for their dreams as they had yea they had much to say that made them beleeve that day was near hand since Christ had said these were the last days and the Apostles do writ it that new were the last times and that the end of the world was fallen on them and they preached al they wrote and so it is rather like they beleeved the day of Christ was near and the Antichrist in Jobus time had as much as seducers now have to make them beleeve that Christ was not come in the flesh since the blinded Jewes alleadged all the prophesies of the old Testament as not fulfilled in the son of Mary and sure they had more to make them beleeve it then Gortin Saltmarsh and other Familists whom Libertines I beleeve call a part of the godly party if they speake according to their conscience can alleadge for their new false and fleshly visions they preach and print 4 Though we be not infallible as the Apostles were yet reason will not say we should not desire that pious and good spirits that is those that call themselves so but are lyers to bee extinguished For wee are to pray that God would cause the unclean spirit and the false Prophet Libertines and others to cease out of the land and so faith requires wee should try them by the word and pray and desire they were crushed and extinguished I mean not in their person but as touching their false doctrine But present your selfe say Arminians before the tribunal of Papists and they will condemne you of Heresie and if you alledge the spirit teacheth you they will answer is that the spirit which corrupt and madde reason teacheth you the spirit of the Devill said the spirit of Christ was the spirit of Beelzebub Answ What inferre Libertines hence against us this is to place no more power in Synods but directive Sir if it please you this is Gods will But wee hold lawfull Synods which is not in the Synagogue of Rome or Papist may as wel rebuke exhort and instruct with all Authority as Timothy or any one particular pastor and this is more than the directive and sceptick teaching of one private Libertine teaching with a reserve convincing and condemning another in a Scepticall way But all tends to this Protestant Synods convened in Christs name can say no more but wee teach what our judgement is it may be true it may be false yeeld a Sceptik consent with a reserve to it that is all and why because Protestant Synods convened in the name of Antichrist can peremptorily and tirannically condemn the truth as heresie and say they are infallible and their Synodicall decrees are the very word of God Ergo Protestant Synods may not authoritatively command you in the name of Christ to beleeve and receive their lawfull decrees conditionally after yee finde them agreeable to the word of God there is no consequence here Prelates condemned the truth as heresie and schisme Pharisees condemned Christ as a Samaritan ergo Protestants sound in the faith cannot condemne Popery Familisme and ergo Paul cannot condemne 〈◊〉 as a perverter of the waies of righteousnesse this is as if you would say a robber cannot by law jure condemne a traveller to render his purse ergo a Judge cannot compell this traveller to pay just debt 2 We do not instance from the teaching of the spirit but from the cleare word of God CHAP. X. Of indulgence in fundamentall or non-fundamentall errors BUt say the Arminians the question is of Hereticks not of those who dare deny the things openly decided in the Scripture but of those who call in question those things that are or may be contraverted There was never an Heretick who called in question whether theeves drunkards robbers railers Idolaters shall enter into the Kingdome of heaven or whether God be to beloved above all things he is not a Christian he is not an hereticke but worse than a hereticke who denyes those things that are plain and obvious in scripture But he that layeth a law upon others which he must follow under pain of death imprisonment or banishment in things belonging to liberty of prophecying which are conjoyned with the reverence of God and the scripture trampleth all prophesies under foot Answ 1 This definition of an Hereticke is in quesion there be in England who deny all scriptures as no word of God yet are judged by Libertines
under him and so to the conscience that they may ●●errandly and indeclinably also command but they should remember when power of commanding comes out of God the fountain of authority now it looseth its absolute undeclinablenesse when it is in conscience or in any creature and it is onely conditionall and limited in the streames whereas it was absolute and soveraigne in the fountaine 2 In the case of an erroneous conscience standing in its vigorous thing the question is both what is commanded and what is good for these two are not contrary but agree well for the Lords command to Adam eate not of this fruit is to Adam the cause why the not eating is good and the cause of the obligation to what is commanded also but onely the obligation is ad modum facti non ad factum to the ●●●ner of doing that if we doe or abstaine we do it 〈…〉 in faith and perswasion without any jarring between the conscience and the object but there is no obligation to the fact On the regular way of doing I am never oblieged to obey God with an erring conscience or contrary to the inditement of an erring conscience 3 The material object being sin and forbidden by the law of God is an object by accident even when it is proposed by practicall reason if that reason be erroneous and misinformed as it is in this case the proposing of practicall reason doth not make that to bee good or commanded which of it selfe was neither good nor commanded but sinfull it may make it good in the manner of doing and obliege in the manner of doing but that is not our question but whether the practicall judgement and conscience remaining erroneous doth both ligare bind and obliege to the fact that is sinfull that is denied And though hee that is circumcised upon the supposall of a blind erring and Jewish conscience thinking the law of shaddowes obliegeth when the body Christ is come he is a debter to doe the whole Law and to eate the Passeover to sacrifice at Jerusalem to keepe the new-Moones c. But how is he debter He is this way debter what warrant he hath to be circumcised he hath the same warrant to keepe the Passeover to sacrifice that is he hath as good reason for to doe all or is as well obliged upon his false principles he goes on to keep all the law of ceremonies as to be circumcised or doe a part onely but he is erroneously and sinfully made by himselfe a debter to the whole Law but God made him a debter neither to the one nor to the other and in Gods Court though if he be circumcised he must be circumcised this way that is his conscience must dictate that Gods Law still in force commands him so to doe but this is but a necessity of supposition that falleth upon the manner of the doing not upon the fact for no Law of God warranteth him to be circumcised and no Law of God makes him debter to doe all the rest of the law of ceremonies he is obliged neither to be circumcised erroneously nor to abstaine from circumcision erroneously but to lay aside his erroneous conscience and to abstaine from circumcision according to the enditement of a well informed conscience So we easily answer that ignorant objection of phantasticall Sectaries in needlesse Pamphlets and Queries smelling of non-sense and selfe-conceit speaking they know not what If the sword be used against errours to suppresse them then must the Magistrate command and compell men of tender consciences to sinne and to doe against the light of their conscience for what is not of faith is sinne And the Spirit himselfe waites and violates not the liberty of the reasonable soule by superseding the faculties thereof but approves every truth to the understanding and moves the will without violence with a rationall force Shall man be more zealous for God then God is for himselfe God himselfe doth not force men but call them to repentance If the word calling be considered whether will it warrant any further meanes then arguments perswasions and intreaties make them as forceable us you can if you hold the feare of punishment over men it must be the feare of divine punishment c. Answ For 1. wee no where teach that the sword is a meanes of converting but the just vengeance that is inflicted by the Minister of God upon false teachers as upon other evill doers so it is not destinated by God for spiritual gaining and reducing of hereticks that may repent but for judiciall expiation of wrongs done to the flock and Christian society 2. This poore argument will conclude against all 〈◊〉 of Magistrates against murtherers bloody traitors for the Lawes of the Minister of God the King forbids the English Jesuit to stab his Prince and compells him to 〈◊〉 from King-killing and if this Jesuit abstaine from killing his Sovereigne Lord and abstain not in faith but against the light of his Jesuiticall and bloody conscience which dictates to him that he is a Protestant Prince and a heretick and he is obliged in conscience for the advancement of the Catholicke cause to stabbe him doth the supreme Magistrate compell this Jesuit to sin and doth hee force the Jesuits conscience for to doe in faith hath place in duties of the second Table as well as in the first and men out of conscience and in faith and moved by the Holy Ghosts gracious actings are to obey all lawfull commands of the Magistrate as to pay tribute to abstain from murther treason adultery robbing and stealing if they be subjects of tender consciences and why then should the Magistrate compell and force men to these duties which are to be done in faith and in a spirituall manner for sure the Spirit forces them not to doe these in faith so the command of the Magistrate moveth every Christian to practise and act of obedience to mens Lawes for conscience sake and the Spirit moves the whole powers of the soul both the understanding and the will without violence with a rationall force and why should the Magistrate then be more zealous for God then God is for himselfe and all this may be said against all Lawes in the Old Testament why should the Magistrate compell men against their faith and conscience not to beleeve not to practise any such seducing wayes as to say Come let us goe serve other Gods Should Moses be more zealous for God then God is for himselfe but the truth is the Magistrate as the Magistrate doth not meddle with the conscience not the manner of obedience to Law whether they be obeyed in faith or against the light of conscience that is nothing to him he commands but the externall actions preach no heresie no Familisme Soci●●nisme under the paine of corporall punishment if Pastors obey this charge hypocritically not in faith it is their sin not the Magistrates he neither commands thus preach no heresie in faith
hairy mantle to deceive as the 4. v. holds forth and so he pretends a calling from God when he hath none 2. He prophesies not errors only but lies that hee knowes or may know except he were wilfully ignorant to be lyes 3. He speaks them in the name of the Lord and sayes he hath seene the visions of God and the word of the Lord came to me when no such thing was but he utters his owne phancies and hee that does these three deserves bodily punishment and if they bee lyes striking at the root of the Christian faith hee deserves to dye the death 2 The text will not bear that his father and his mother with their owne hands shall thrust him through without addressing themselves to the Judge But it is an allusion to the Law Deut. 13. His father and mother shall not pity him but cause him to be thrust through So Elias said to Achab Hast thou killed and also gotten possession When Achab with his owne hands had not killed Naboth but by his command and letter had procured that others should doe it so 2 Sam. 12. 9. Thou hast killed Vriah but it is exponed David procured that the Ammonites should kill Vriah David with his owne hand did not thrust him through The Answer is because the objector is like to be cumbred with this text he saith for I repeate not what I answered before the best exposition and fullest is His father shall pierce him through that is shall indeavour to take him off and deterre him from such a practice by laying before him the sentence of the death out of the Law Exod. 20. 5. 7. threatning if thou goe on thou shalt not live with God but shall be condemned he shall pierce him through with sharp and piercing words the word of God is compared to a two edged sword Psal 149. ●7 c. and ver 12. There is that speaketh like the piercing of a sword so Turnovins And the predictions in Scripture are spoken as performances Jer. 1. I have set thee over the Nations to root out c. That is to foreshew or threaten rooting out so Chytraeus They shall confute their wicked opinions c. Answ Though Turnovius expound piercing through by preaching death from the Law and terrifying yet since the Objector weakly and groundlesly as we saw will r●strict this Prophesie to the Church of the Jewes and a poore short time when this zeale endured It must with his leave be meant in that day that is in the time of the Gospel as in other places it must be taken as Ier. 50. 4. v. 20. Ier. 31. 29. Ier. 33. 15. 16. Ioel 2. 29. Zach. 8. 23. for so prophesies of Christs Kingdome are expounded to have their accomplishment in Christs Gospel-Kingdome and then the Law piercing through and terrifying must be in use under the Gospel which is all we crave therefore the Objector adds to the words of the threatning thou shalt not live to wit before God and so leaps from the threatning of the sword of the Magistrate Deut. 13. which hee saith is the sense of the place to the second death and a dying before God 2. But let us have an instance where piercing through dying and wounding is put for Metaphoricall wounding with words to gratifie the Objectors erroneous sense wee cannot quit this place so for all the Text cryes for a reall piercing and killing 1. It is I grant an easie way to answer places of Scripture that can but bear a literall sense to change them into Metaphors so you may give to the Magistrate with some Anabaptists Rom. 13. a Metaphoricall sword and pay him metaphoricall tribute and give him metaphoricall obedience what more reason to make this a morall slaying and piercing with words then a morall or metaphoricall Idol or a metaphoricall false Prophet a metaphoricall uncleane spirit and passing out of the land These words thou shalt not live are words of the Law and the piercing through metaphoricall but those words againe Thou speakest lies in the name of the Lord are not metaphoricall but containe a proper truth such a complication is not in all the Scripture 2. The words in their literall sense are faire and easie and not to bee wrested to a spirituall or borrowed sense without ground it much lesseneth the zeale foretold to be under the Gospel and turnes a reall zeale over into words of threatning the Text saith the contrary his father shall thrust him through and this works so upon him that others shall really leave their false prophecying and shall say I am no Prophet but a Herdman now if the words be a Prophecie to be fulfilled only in the Jewes excluding the Gentiles as the Objector saith then is it no zeale at all but a most sinfull and unjust dispencing with the Law and a zeale far below the Law for the Law saith Deut. 13. If the seducing Prophet which were as neer to thee as a Brother Son Daughter or Wife in thy bosome thou must not smooth him and oyle him with sharpe words and meer threatnings yea but thou must act against him v. 8. Thine eye shall not pitie him thou shall not spare him neither shalt thou conceale him 9. Thou shalt surely kill him thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death Now this cannot be a metaphoricall putting to death but the Objectors metaphoricall and minatory piercing of him through with sharpe and piercing words imply necessarily that yee must conceale him and pitie him and not kill him nor stretch out any hand against him first or last to hurt him but only stretch your tongue against him and barely threaten him and terrifie him but let him live If the Prophecie be extended to Iew and Gentile under the Gospel which against the Text the Objector denies then it argues 1. That there is such a Law under the Gospel else if it be an unjust Law and out of date now under the Gospel the threatning and piercing through must bewith lying words and father must utter to the lying Prophet lies to terrifie him and say son if thou desist not from prophesying lies thou shalt be thrust through with the Magistrates sword and die according to the Law that is I foreshew and threaten according to the Law but it is an unjust and an out-dated Law to Libertines that obliegeth not under the New Testament that thou shalt be thrust through and die that is I fore-shew and prophesie a lie that thou ought to be put to death and persecuted for thy conscience whereas no such thing ought to be now when the Law Deut. 13. is worne out of vigor 2. It must follow that lying and false words uttered in a threatning manner must be the way to cause the false Prophet to bee ashamed of his vision and prophesying falsely no more but say I am no Prophet but an herdman Whereas the Holy Ghost sayth feare of thrusting through is the cause 3 If it
Magistrates judges of what is truth and heresie since the generallity of Magistrates yea of men are ignorant thereof and uncapable in questions of doubtfull disputation 2 Say that the Synod were equally divided whether Presbytery or Independence be the way of God or say the major part which is ever the worst determine amisse what shall the Magistrate do and the evill doer Rom. 13. cannot be he that doth evill without limitation or thinks evill but pro subjecta materia But he that doth evil whereof ordinary Magistrates heathen or Christian are competent judges which is manifestly of politicall consideration as that which is contrary to the light and law of nature as whoredome adultery murther theft unjustice sedition treason Answ 1. This argument is against the wisdome of God in appointing Magistracy as well as against us for there be a world of questions of doubtfull disputation what is according or what contrary to the light and law of nature in murther medicine usury polygamy incest marriage contracts false witnesse and these are so controverted yea and there be matters too hard in judgement for ordinary men between blood and blood plea and plea stroake and stroake Deut. 17. 12. no lesse then in matters of Religion and to erre in taking the life of a guiltlesse man in any subject is as great misgovernment as can be though I dare not charge God with it as the Objecter doth 2. When the Holy Ghost forbiddeth the Master of every Christian family and there must be a far larger number of heads of families then Christian Magistrates to owne a hereticke as a guest or to salute him 2 Joh. 10. and commandeth Christians not to eat with an Idolator 1 Cor. 7. 11. to reject an heretick Tit. 3. 10. to avoyd false teachers that creep into houses 2 Tim. 3. 5 6. and such as cause divisions contrary to the doctrine of the Gospel Rom. 16. 17 18. sure he supposeth they have knowledge to judge what is error and heresie what is truth otherwise he commands us to turne our backs on such as the blinde man casts his club May not one say This is against the wisdome of God in the government of Christian families and societies to interpose our judgement in doubtsome disputations to judge who is the hereticke and to be avoyded who is the sound beleever 3. The uncapability of Magistrates and most men to judge here is the want of infallibility such as the immediately inspired Prophets had then it s against the wisdome of God that we try the spirits and doctrines and beleeve them for if the generality of men let alone Christian Magistrates be uncapable of fundamentall truths they cannot judge them to be truths nor heresies except they be infalibly and immediately inspired by this argument it is then against the wisdome of God to bid any beleeve the Gospel but the Prophets and Apostles 4. The Magistrate being a Christian should see with his owne eyes and judge the Presbytery worthy of his politicke sanction and though Synods divide or erre the error and uncertainties of men that are accidentall to all Ordinances are no rule to Magistrates on earth and by this reason which hath as much force against preaching the Gospell as against the Christian Magistrates politicall judging when Ministers are divided and the equall halfe or the major part preach Arrianisme Socinianisme Famil●●●e c. and the lesser number sound doctrine the Objecter needs not aske under which of their shadows shall the Magistrate repose for peace and safety I inlarge the question and let the Objecter answer under which of their shadows shall all their hearers repose for faith and establishment in the truth And I answer call no man Rabbi let Magistrates and others receive the truth in love and let him answer when foure hundred Prophets say to Achab goe to Ramath Gilead fight and prosper and one Michajah saith goe not left thou be killed under which shall Achab repose shall then Achab heare the voice of the Lord in no Prophet because foure hundred speake lyes or shall not foure hundred Michajahs declare the minde of God to the Prince because so many false Prophets speake the contrary 5. It s true Ill-doers here must be such as Magistrates generally may judge but not all ill-doers false Prophets or the like Magistrates as Magistrates are to judge ill-doers but it followes not that all Magistrates whether Heathen or Christian are to judge all ill-doers whether Gospel-seducing teachers or murtherers for there wanteth a condition in heathen Magistrates for the want whereof they cannot actually and in the capacity of heathens judge false teachers Arrians Socinians and the like not because they are not essentially Magistrates as well as Christian Magistrates but because they want the knowledge of the Gospell even as inferiour Judges are as essentially Judges in Israel as the Priests and the great Sanedrim at Jerusalem and may judge of their office between blood and blood but if it be a controversie too hard for them between blood and blood and the party be willing to appeale these inferiour Judges cannot actually judg that controversie but it must go to the Sanedrim Deut. 17. 12. 13. So a father as a father whether heathen or Christian and a Master of a family by his place the like I say of a husband a Tutor a Doctor in their respective places are by their place and relation to teach their children and servants the principles of the doctrine of the Gospel by these places Gen. 18. 18 19. Exod. 12. 26 27. Ps 78. 4 5 6 7. Joel 1. 2. Prov. 4 3 4 5. Eph. 6. 4. 2 Tim. 3 14 15. Deut. 6. 6. 7. yet while they are heathen fathers and heathen masters they neither can nor are obliged actually to teach any thing of the Gospel they never hearing of the Gospel are obleiged not to beleeve in a Christ of whom they never heard Rom. 10. 14 15 16. and those that Christ was never preached to are not condemned for Gospell-unbeliefe Joh. 15. 22. But for sinnes against the Law of nature Rom. 2. 12. 13 14 15. Rom. 1. 19 20 21 22. and the like must wee say of Judges whether heathen or Christian though in the state of heathenish they never having heard of Christ freeth them from an obligation of actuall punishing Gospell hereticks yet as Judges their office is to punish such but neither heathen Princes nor heathen fathers masters husbands tutors and teachers of Schooles are obliged to an actual exercise of all and every Magistraticall fatherly masterly maritall and tutory Gospell-duties toward their underlings and pupills if they live in a Countrey where they are invincibly ignorant of the Gospell if the Lord by no providence send Preachers of the Gospell to them And how shall they beleeve in him of whom they never heard And how shall they judge hereticks sinning against a Gospell of which they never heard Let no man stumble at this
and subjection to all lawfull Magistrates heathen and Christian and to their Lawes and to pay tribute and to be judged by them whereas Papists plead exemption to Churchmen and sure if no doing of evill be prohibited here and deserve the just vengeance of the Minister of God but only such which was prohibited by the Roman Laws and Edicts then must the Roman Laws and Edicts be as perfect as the word of God for then the Romans Laws must command reward and praise all good that the Ruler or any power ordained of God doth command this is most false they did not command the saving of the lives of the innocent British in this Island that never injured them but commanded to kill them they did not in their Laws command their under-Rulers Pilate and others to protect innocent Christians to justifie and absolve Jesus Christ but to condemn and murther them though they gave all that was due to Caesar and their Laws did not forbid all evill that the Judges and Ministers of God are to execute wrath against all murthering of innocent men in thousands and most unjust and bloody warres against Nations that never wronged them and they forbad not the spreading of errors and heresies against the Gospel that came to their eares and made them that they had no cloake for their sinne Joh. 15. 21 22. for Paul brought the Gospel to them and it is a begging of the question that the Roman Emperours ought not to have made Laws against spreading of heresie and they were a terror to those that preached the Gospel and had their conversation among the Gentiles blamelessely and so these Emperours did not as the Ministers of God ought to doe nor would the Apostle undertake or be surety for Nero the Objector undertakes for the text that in which the Holy Ghost will not bear him out that he shall give praise and reward for well-doing all the well-doing that the text saith the Minister of God by his office is to reward the Roman Magistrate did abhorre and persecute if the Apostle undertake those that doe well shall have praise from the Roman Magistrate if hee doe as a lawfull Magistrate then cannot the text be meant of the Roman Magistrate as he actually misgoverned and abused his power for then hee was a terrour to those that preached orthodox truths and worshipped dumbe Idols and by Lawes and Edicts honoured and rewarded heathen Priests that were not so good as Baals Chaplaines and doth Paul undertake if the Saints at Rome would turne Priests and servers of the Roman Gods that they should doe well and have praise from the Roman Magistrate for by the Roman Law the Roman Rulers were to reward and praise such as did well in this sense 2. Nor doth Paul undertake they shall have praise from the Roman Magistrate if they doe well according as the Roman Lawes speakes of well-doing for then Paul should undertake they should have praise from the Roman Magistrate for that which is evill-doing which Paul would never undertake because killing of innocent men in unjust warres to conquer and inslave free States by the Roman Lawes was well-doing and praised and rewarded by their Laws as wel-doing But this was to Paul and in it selfe evill-doing and robbery and makes the Holy Ghost to exhort to Romish and falsely so called well-doing CHAP. XVIII The place 1 Tim. 2. 1. 2. for coercive power over false Prophets cleared Argument XII THat which we are to pray we may have from the Magistrate by his office that is his office to doe because prayers must be in faith and grounded on the word of God But we are to pray for Kings and all that are in Authority that with the sword they would guard Religion and the Church of God from wolves false teachers and those that think they do God service when they kill us Joh. 16. 1. that we may saith the Apostle 1 Tim. 2. 2. lead a quiet a peaceable life in all godlinesse and honesty Nor can a Magistrate procure a quiet and a peaceable life in all godlinesse 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and honesty as a Magistrate but by his sword nor can he with meer words of mouth onely exhort as a Magistrate the foxes not to destroy the vines and wolves not to slaughter 〈◊〉 sheep except he coerce false teachers and Idolaters because upon the occasion that Micah and his mother made a molten image and an Ephod and imposed it on their house the Holy Ghost saith Judg. 17. 1 2 3 4 5. v 6. In those dayes there was no King in Israel but every man did that which was right in his owne eyes hence it is cleare that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godlinesse a naked permission from the Magistrate to serve God is not enough or that he suffer no man to do theSaints violence but if wolves be permitted to teach what is right in their own erroneous conscience and there be no Magistrate to put them to shame Judg. 18. 7. and no King to punish them then godlinesse and all that concernes the first Table of the Law must be marred and the intrinsecall end of the Magistrate which is a peaceable life in all godlinesse is not attainable in an ordinary providence nor will it help to say Paul commandeth prayers to be made for the Magistrates that were then heathen who being ignorant of Christ could conferre nothing to godlinesse but meerly negatively that they persecute not the godly for their conscience nor permit others to persecute them for Paul will have us to pray for their conversion that they may become Christian Magistrates and come to the knowledge of the truth and then they doe more then negatively procure peace to the Church for as Magistrates now converted they are to praise and reward and promote to the dignity of Judges men fearing God Deut. 1. 17. yea and fearing God as the Scripture doth describe the fear of God and so to reward Christian well-doing Rom. 13. 3. therefore Christian Kings as Kings are to send such to promote them to bear rule over the people 2 Pet. 2. 14. That so they may be 〈…〉 by the King for the punishment of evill doers and for the praise of them that doe well 2. Nor is it true that Paul will have us in that place to pray onely for heathen Kings and that as heathen as Libertines suppose that wee may have negatively peace under them they being excluded from all exercise of their Magistraticall office in or about matters of Religion for Paul commands us to pray for Kings and all that are in Authority and it is cleare some in authority and divers in Neroes court were converted to the Christian faith Phil. 1. 13. Phil. 4. 22. Nor is the prayer for Kings to be restricted to the Kings and Rulers of that present age when Paul wrote that but for all Kings to be converted and who shall beleeve and
why If Gods power bee with them we resist the power of God we fight against God Nor is it enough that the patron of liberty Servetus and Goodwin tell us in doubtsome things such as controversies of Religion we would refraine from drawing the sword against men for their conscience and religion because we know not infallibly but their way may be as well or rather the way of God than our own and then wee run the hazzard of fighting against God Omnipotent and when it is dubious to us but it may be the way of men it is safest to leave it to God and that we hold back our hand from offering violerce to them for God will save our labour and burne the hay and stubble of mens drossie inventions and what need then is there to file the edge of the Magistrates sword in a dubious case when we have not certaine●y of faith that the now Sectaries way is of men and Sathan Answ 1. Pharoahs tyranny in detaining the people in bondage notwithstanding of the wonders that the God of the Hebrews wrought by Moses was as doubtsome to him to be Tyranny since his God-Idol of Egypt did the like wonders by the Magicians as controversies of Religion are and blindnesse in duties in the second table when Judiciall and from the power of the prince of darknesse is as strong and may as much make men excuseable and shield them from the sword of God or man as blindnesse in the duties of the first table 2 This Answer does oyle the head and flatter the wilfull and malicious ignorance of Pharisees who both knew Christ and whence he was and were convinced that the Gospell was from God and that the miracles of Peter and John came nothing short of the Miracles of Moses in point of glory and power and by this all the Seducers even such as sin against the Holy Ghost as did these Pharisees shall bee tollerated because wee know not infallibly but their Anti-gospell and blaspheming of God and his son may bee the way of God and therefore we must refraine from lifting a tongue against them and they know not but our Gospell may be the Gospel or it may be the divinity of devills and by this the knowledge of the Elements and first fundamentalls of the Gospell to wit that Iesus died rose againe ascended to heaven and through faith in his name Jewes and Gentiles are saved the only doctrine for which these Apostles were persecuted shal be mere Scepticisme and an adventuring fluctuation wee must leave to God either to reward and establish or to annihillate or crush this way of the Apostles wee must not oppose it because no morall man with certainty of faith can oppose the most false way though as cleare point-blanke contrary to the Gospel as noon day to blacke midnight but he must run the hazzard of either fighting against God or invading the chaire of God or of bringing to nought that which God onely brings to nought and of striking but not in faith him whom God will have us not to strike But 3. This argument of Gamaliel and Mr. Goodwin must conclude that we must not smite with the tongue or argue by the Scriptures of God against any false way 1. It is dubious to us as to the Pharisees and to al Christian Magistrats who are infallibly in no Gospel principle and so they cannot in faith draw the sword where the certainty of faith does not lead them for fear they fall upon Gyant fighting against God in lie● of acts of justice But so neither should Vatica●●● M●mus C●lsus Mr. Go●dwin nor any smite with the tongue Presbyterians Socinians Antiscripturians or fight against their way by Scripture arguments because their way may bee the way of truth as wel as yours and to fight against any truth of God when ye know not but it may be truth of God is a fighting against God and so al preaching al writing against Heretickes shal be a fighting against God for it is no more lawful to fight morally then phisically against God or his truth and that without faith and infallibility for to reproach any precious truth of the spirit in Saints and cal it a lye must be to reproach God and his Son Christ as to deny any truth of God before men is to deny God and Christ before men Matth. 10. 32. Mark 8. 38. Luk. 9. 26. 2 Tim. 2. 12 13. 4. This Dilemma of Gamaliel saith any way or Doctrine of men must be refrained from and nothing can be done by Magistrates or Ministers nor spoken on the contrary because God himself will have it reserved to him that he may bring it to nought Now by this Argument we are not by teaching and Doctrine so much as in us lies to hinder grievous wolves to draw disciples after them and corrupt hearers to gather to themselves an heap of teachers by preaching the contrary sound Doctrine contrary to Acts 20. 28 29 30 31. 2 Tim. 4. 1 2 3 4. Tit. 1. 10 11 12 13. For 1. we are no more to convince refute and rebuke false teachers except we could do it in faith and assurance that their way is of men and false since all we do or do not speak or speak not must be in the perswasion of faith else we sinne Rom. 14. 12 14 22 23. then Christian Magistrates can punish them with the sword 2. We can no more fight against a way of God for so the heretick to death under torturing Professeth and you have no faith on the contrary say Libertines with the tongue nor with the hand Yea we can no more labour to suppresse what God onely in his sole prerogative of providence immediately working ought to suppresse and that in a mediate providence of our own making with preaching refuting watching over the flock stopping the mouthes of gain-sayers then we can indeavour the suppressing of it with the sword 5. Gamaliel intended to have the Apostles not to be medled with either because godly men and Disciples of Christ as he was or because their way was dubiously not notively and manifestly false if the former Then 1. Godly men though in an evill way though they murther play the Traytor Rebell commit adultery are not to be any way censured This is the way of Anabaptisme that sets all beleevers above and beyond the reach of the Magistrates sword and his dilemma cannot have this sense for if godly men as godly men are upon this formall reason because godly men must not be punished by the Magistrate neither must they ever at all be punished for the acts of oppression or murthering or treacherous dealing or adultery for it is cleere in the person of David Lot and others that they remained godly and Saints under those acts 2. It is said not proved that Gamaliel being a secret Disciple of Christ as Nicodemi●● was favoured the Gospell and the witnesses of it for the Text insinuates no such thing but
can preaching of man or angel doe without God is it not God and God only who can open the heart therefore this is no argument against the use of the sword against false teachers because it hath no strength against soule obstinacie to work repentance for neither hath preaching but the sword hath strength and more strength against the outward man the tongue the pen the profession of seducing preachers to coerce it and to guard the flock from grievous Wolves for these being test●●ined the flock is in no more danger from the conscience of the Heretick then peaceable men are in danger of the bloodie mans thoughts hatred heart-malice if the Magistrate tie his hands from murther and violence by the sword of God which hee beareth Rom. 13. it hath I say more force in its way then the preaching of the word hath in regard Hereticks men of corrupt minds fear● men and the sword of the Magistrate more then God and the threatnings of the word as murtherers and adulterers abstain from disturbing the peace of humane societie more for fear of the laws of men then for God I grant the excessive fear is from the corruption of nature for oderunt peccare mali formidine poenae yet this argues that the sword is ordained of God to order the outward man in a peaceable way both in state and Church for lay down this ground which Libertines do that God hath appointed no law nor rule to men of corrupt minds to those that subvert whole Houses but their own erroneous consciences grievous Wolves may doe in the flock to waste destroy and pervert the flock as they please But they are say Libertines no wolves but the lambs of Christ the anointed ones whom Presbyterians so call and the Presbiterians are the wolves who so domineer over the consciences I answer this is a manifest perverting of the State of the question and to leap from the Proposition to the Assumption for we dispute only upon the Supposition that there be Wolves and Seducers in a Christian societie but who they be Presbyterian or others is another question whether or not the Christian Magistrate should for his part leave them to themselves and suffer them to preach print what blasphemies they list and their erroneous conscience dictates to them for truths But neither the Christian Magistrate not being infallible nay nor any Church on earth can judge who is the Heretick who the Saint and therefore should take on him to judge none at all to be Hereticks but should suffer tares and wheat to grow till harvest for fear he pluck up the wheat in lieu of tares and persecute Saints under colour of justice Hence I argue in the contrary demonstratively that liberty of Conscience is unlawfull and not of God Whatever way layeth down a principle most false and contrary to the word of God is not of God but must be unlawfull but the pretended liberty of conscience is such Ergo c. The Proposition needs no probation That must be false that by strong consequence follows from a false principle I prove the Assumption The prime and first principle of libertie of Conscience now under the New Testament is that Hereticks and seducing Teachers are therefore unpunishable by the sword because they are unknowable The formall and that which constituteth an Heretick an Heretick is in the heart to wit heart-contumacie legible and obvious only to him that knows all say the Belgicks Arminians and therefore they can neither be judged nor punished observe by the way the Church of Thyatira must be then unjustly rebuked for suffering Jezabel to seduce and this exempteth all false Teachers from Church-censures yea from rebukes for who dares rebuke men for f●●s knowable to the almightie only who knows the heart 2. We are expressely commanded say Libertines to suffer the tares that is Hereticks to grow till harvest because we cannot know tares from wheat and we run the hazard saith Iohn Goodwin of fighting against God and fighting against Saints and God in them saith Saltmarsh when we punish Hereticks 3. We have not that infallible Spirit and those Prophets who cannot erre and can infallibly tel us who is the Heretick who not 4. There is a great variety and such contrarietie of judging say they what is heresie what not that what is heresie to one is saving truth to another who is as worthy to be beleeved as he Ergo We are all in the mist and in a sea of uncertainties in judging who is the Heretick who the Saint 5. Heresie is innocencie Ergo there is no such fault reproveable or punishable in the world say they But this principle that the Seducer is not knowable in the New Testament is most false and contrary to Scripture 1. He whom the Holy Ghost bids as try and not beleeve till we try he is knowable but every teacher true or false the Holy Ghost bids us try 1 Thes 5. 21. 1 Joh. 4. 1. and for this are the Bercans commended because they tryed Paul and his doctrine by the Scriptures Acts 17. 11. Ergo If Paul had been an Heretick and a false Teacher he might have been found out 2. Such an one as the Lord forewarns us to beware of and avoid such an one is knowable But the Lord bids us beware of false Prophets and Seducers and bids us avoid them and beleeve them not Matth. 7. 15. Remore of false Prophets Marth 24. 23. If any man say to you loe here is Christ or loe there beleeve it not why if he teach me where Christ is if I heare not him I refuse to hear Christ Matth. 10. 40 41. Ergo the false Christ is knowable Tit. 2. 10. An hereticke avoid c. when Solomon saith Make not friendship with an angry man is not the formality of anger in the heart if any should reply to Solomon God onely knows who is the angry man who is the patient and meek man therefore we will make friendship withall men or with no man Should any say there is no such 〈◊〉 knowable should he not contradict the Holy Ghost So must we say there is not such a man knowable to a mortall man as a false Prophet or an heretick and therefore Paul doth but mocke the Philippians who were not infallible when he writeth to them thus Beware of dogs and John when he saith If any man bring not this doctrine receive him not into your house Might not Libertines say God commandeth us to run the hazard of incroaching upon Gods chaire for who but he who knows the heart can tell who is the heretick who not when the Lord rebukes association with Theeves Robbers Slanderers Prov. 1. 11 12. Ps 15. 18 holdeth he not forth that the Theif the Robber and the Slanderer are knowable 3. These whom the Lord rebukes because they judge not Jezabel and deceiving teachers may know Jezabel and deceiving teachers but the Lord rebukes the Church of Thyatira for
not hypocrisie and sin for this argument may as well prove the Magistrate should neither forbid nor punish murther nor command abstinence from murther to an unrenewed man for an unrenewed man cannot but abstaine from murther in a sinfull way and his abstinence from murther in order to the spirituall Law of God is no better then the oblation of Swines bloud and the cutting off of a dogs head to God Esa 66. 1 2. as is all externall obedience of either Tables of the Law first or second without faith and spirituall inward morall principles and heart-obedience and Mr. Williams cannot answer this argument but by the principles of Anabaptists Familists and Enthysiasts who say all outward Ordinances Ministery Preaching Sacraments yea Preachers and Magistrates who command outward obedience to God are unlawfull now under the New Testament So Mr. Dell denies all Reformation but heart-reformation Other reformation beside this in the heart I know none and Gospel-reformation onely mindeth the reformation of the heart then away with Preaching Laws the Sword Synods Gospel-reformation saith he is inward layes hold upon the heart soule and inner man and changes and renewes that doth not much busie it selfe about outward formes or externall conformity but onely mindes the conformity of the heart for when the heart is right with God the outward formes cannot be amisse Christ saith touching the worship of the New Testament God is a Spirit and they that worship him must worship him in Spirit and Truth he speakes not one word of any outward formes so that God in the Gospel-reformation aimes at nothing but the heart So the father of the Familists impure H. Nicholas If I could give all my goods to the poor c. if I have not love it is not any thing to me that is whosoever hath not Christ he is without God and without righteousnesse in this world I mean the being like Christ which is conceived through the power of the Holy Ghost and not any ceremoniall Christ which one man speaketh to another or promiseth to another through his ceremoniall service which he out of his prudency according to his fleshly minde setteth up O no The worke or begetting of God commeth not so ●lenderly to passe as men now at this time teach each other out of their unregenerate Spirit he meaneth by men now at this time Protestants who conjoyne Pauls planting and the watering of Apollos with the working of the Spirit whereas this Impostor taketh him to the latter and railes against the former as a ceremoniall and fleshly Christ See more of this in Del Theologia Germanica Rise and Reigne of Antinomians Bullinger Calvin Towne the Antino●ian Sal●marsh Upon this ground Samuel Gortyn right down denies all Magistracy learning books Libraries Lawes and he hath reason so to do for Magistracy because it is a carnall Ordinance cannot produce inward and spirituall repentance therefore Magistrates upon the same ground cannot coerce nor punish hereticks since heresie is a spirituall evill which cannot be remedied by a sword of steal for God onely can enlighten the minde 3. If therefore this argument be good neither can the externall preaching of the word be a lawfull Ordinance for God onely gives repentance the preaching of the Word without the Spirit can but produce a carnall repentance and the Bounder may cry downe all preaching of the word if he but change the word Magistrate into the word Preacher or Ambassadour for this course of Preaching by men may lay a stumbling I speake in his words in every mans way to prophane the things of God by doing them out of obedience to men that are but earthen vessels not to God If he say that is by accident because men look to men as men and not to God whose word men carry So say I mens abstaining from doing violence and murther which the Magistrate forbids may infer God hath given no power to the Magistrate to forbid murther and adultery for men may so prophane the sixt Command and abstaine from murther because the Magistrate forbids it not because God forbids it in the sixt Commandement And the preaching of the word may be art downe errours so long as a man sound in the faith preacher● but when there ariseth a corrupt teacher a ●●ara●h that knew not Joseph errours shall walke on every side and that not by permission but by commandement Now this is the reasonlesse reason of the 〈◊〉 against the coercive power of Magistrates these men argue ever from the abused power of a Magistrate and from persecution to prov● hereticks ought not to be punished as if punishing of false teachers were persecution which they can never prove But to goe on That cannot be the way of God which necessarily inferreth the darkeness inevidence and inextricable difficultie of understanding the Scriptures But such is the way of Libertie of Conscience Ergo. The Proposition is clear for if God hath not sufficiently cleared the way to heaven but left a Testament that men may expound to be the pathway to life eternall and the just contrary a pathway to life eternall then shall men know certainly no safe way to life eternall and the Scriptures shall not make men inexcusable contrary to Hos 5. 2. and 8. 12. Psal 19. 7 8 9 10. Ezek. 3. 5 6. Luke 16. 29 30 31. Joh. 20. 31. and 15. 22. 2 Tim. 3. 15 16. Psal 119. 9. Prov. 3. 21 22 23. Deut. 31. 28 29. Matth. 11. 21 22 23. 24. 2. Papists shall be in better case then we for though they say that the Scriptures are darke and obscure and admit of themselves divers and contrary senses so that we cannot bottome our faith on them yet the juridical interpretation of the Church is to men a ground of faith and that is the ground of faith which the Church giveth as the only true sense of Scripture The Assumption is clear because Libertines suppose that the sense of Scripture can be undeniably known to none what is to one saint a ground of faith the just contradicent to another is a ground of faith and what sense to one Saint is an Article of saving faith to another is a damnable Heresie and both are to be tolerated neither corrected nor punished for since neither are infallible neither can deserve rebukes or rods nor punishment civill or Ecclesiasticall because knowing of the word of God in Scripture is not in our freewill but natural and whatsoever sense the word offers to the understanding true or false the man cannot be guilty in receiving the false sense because he is not punishable therefore as Libertines argue and what then should hinder but Jewes may be saved in their sense of the old Testament who yet deny Christ to be come in the flesh nor are they to bee rebuked far lesse to be punished by God or man therefore because 2 Cor. 3. in reading of the Old Testament a vaile
name How doth this follow but that wee must put none to an Oath but such as are regenerate and wee know wil swear sincerely and not prophaine the name of God None then can bee witnesses under the New Testament to sweare but such as are regenerate where is this divinity warranted Or if it be because the substance of the Oath is sin in that we sweare to put to death the innocent and unrenewed we crave a ground for it in the word But we know no such Covenant or Oath But here if toleration of all Religions stand the Parliaments of both Kingdoms grievously sin in that they proclaime not an open liberty to the Masse to Jesuits Priests to set up Altars Temples the whole body of Popish worship and they ought to proclaime liberty to all Jewes to come and dwell in Britaine erect Synagogues blaspheme Christ for this is the Liberty wherewith Christ hath set us free by Libertines way Obj. Papists would cut our throats Jewes would destroy us and blaspheme Christ Answ No doubt they would but Libertines do ill that good may come of it in not acting lawfull liberty for Christ though the firmament should fall we are not to oppresse consciences force Religion abandon the Gospell liberty and meeknesse in gaining all to Christ in finding truth c. Obj. Henry the 7 Leaves England Papists Henry 8 brings all to halfe Papists halfe Protestants Edward the 6 stirres about the wheele to absolute Protestanisme Mary turnes about all againe to Popery Elizabeth againe sounds the Trumpet all are Protestants are not we even now making unregenerate men the subject of these nationall changes by a nationall Covenant Answ Does not this man lay upon the National Church of the Jewes a Church framed by the wisdome of God the like revolutions from Jehovah to Baal and the golden Calves from Baal and the golden Calves backe againe to Iebovah according as David Achab Ieroboam Ie●u Afa Hezekiah Manasseh Iosiah Ammon Godly or ungodly Kings came to the throne and God must so institute and procreat hypocrisie prophaining of the name of God domineering over and compelling consciences then at now onely subject to the Lord of spirits and his word by a sword of steele Whereas now as then hypocrits change from Religion true or false and backe againe in a circle as times blow faire or foule through the corruption of nature and this is not to be fathered upon that lawfull punitive power that God hath given to the Christian Ruler to coerce wolves and seducing teachers which power Kings whose breasts the Church should sucke often doe abuse to establish Popery and tyrannize over the conscience of the Godly and undo religion but both now and then Sophists may bring a caption ab accidente against any lawfull power What if murtherers Sorcerers Drunkards abound under unjust and loose Princes and when a just and watchfull Prince comes to the throne men out of hypocrisie return from these sins and again when another unjust King Reignes they return to their vomit is this against Nationall righteousnesse and Magistracy 2 Under all those Revolutions Christ had a Church professing the Protestant faith under gracious Kings and sealing the same faith with their blood under persecuting tirants so that change was never in the true invisible Church but onely in the scum and outside of the Church and the change came never from the p●●itive lawful power rightly used but from the hollownes of the hearts of time servers or some weake men that denied their Master in an hour of temptation and repented again 3 By this Argument Mr. Williams wil give us no visible Church but the Church of Anabaptists consisting of sinlesse regenerated and justified men who are beyond the courtesie of the Law free grace and a Redeemer or pardon of 〈◊〉 Obj. An arme of flesh and 〈◊〉 of steel cannot reach to cut off the darknesse of the mind the hardnesse and unbeleife of the heart saith Mr. Williams A woolfe saith Dr. Taylor may as well give lawes to the understanding as bee whose dictates are only propounded in violence and written in blood and a Dugge in 〈◊〉 capable of a Law as a man if there be no christ in his obedience no● discourse in his choice nor reason to satisfie his discourse Aman cannot saith the Bounder beleeve at his own will how much lesse at anothers Who can reveale and infuse supernaturall nation and truth but the spirit Answ This strongly concludes that the understanding and wil cannot bee forced by the sword but must move a connatural way by the indictment of reason and nothing followes but that the internal and elicite acts of the understanding and will cannot be produced by external violence which we yeeld ye say that it involves a contradiction that the elicite acts of the understanding and will can be produced by external force but if masters of Logicke infer Ergo the Magistrate cannot punish a Seducer a false Prophet for teaching what his erroneous conscience dictates to him then we say this argument is against the Holy Ghost not against us and blaspheming Celsius Lucianus doe c. object the like against Moses Lawes as unjust and bloody and Scripture For 1 Whatever involves a contradiction in the Old Testament involves a contradiction in the New and contra then Gods Lawes in Deut. 13. Levit. 24. are contradictions to reason 2 Then God forced the understanding and will in their elicit acts in the Old Testament as if a Wolfe had given Lawes to the conscience of the false Prophet yea so a dog was as capable of a law as the false Prophet being forced by stoning both under the Old Testament and under the New stons were as hard weapons as steel swords to the Jewes as to us 3 Stones were as unable to cut off the darknesse of the mind and unbeleefe and hardnesse of heart of Iewes as a steele sword can prevaile with our hearts 4 None but the spirit of God could infuse supernaturall notions and truths into the mind and will of a Seducing prophet among the Jewes more then of an heretick among christians except Libertines think the Iewes had no need of the spirit of grace free will was stronger of old than now 5 They must say a Iew might have beleeved at his will or not beleeved and could have commanded his conscience which we cannot doe 6 The Law of God compelling conscience made hypocrites then or then forced men to beleeve against their mind and will as well as now 7 Carnal weapons then could have produced spirituall repentance saith and obedience but steele hath lost its spirituall vertue now but sure though the Jews administration was rough servile and harder and ours under Christ milder sweeter and easier Gal. 4. 7. yet were these Laws of Moses righteous but are not made milder as Socinians say the will and understanding were not then compelled to obedience but now led with
way to spare the bloud of the Saints and not resisting the blessed Spirit in them then we cannot punish hereticks and men of corrupt mindes but we are in hazard to resist the Saints and kill the Spirit in them then when the Holy Ghost forbids us to beleeve false Christs Matth. 24. which is a resisting of their spirit we know not but he bids us beleeve the word of truth in Gods dearest Saints since for any knowledge we can have not to beleeve these false Christs it may be they are Gods dearest Saints whose words we refuse to beleeve then in one and the same Commandement of Christ which is beleeve them not he bids us beleeve their word and resist not the Spirit of truth in Gods dearest Saints and when Tit. 3. 18. he forbids us to keep company with an heretick but avoid him and 2 Joh. 10. receive not an impostour into your house he bids us run the hazard of avoyding a Saint and of refusing to lodge in your house Gods deare childe 5. What if Gods dearest Saints beleeve and publish an heresie and the doctrine of Familisme then they are to be pardoned because they are dear Saints But let Libertines answer the Query why should Indulgence and Toleration be yeelded to a Saint that speaks lyes in the name of the Lord more then to a wicked man who also doth prophesie lyes if both may fall in the same heresie with the like pertinacy for a time if we be not respecters of persons they no lesse deserve both to be punished then when both commit adultery and murther 2. Why lying of God and speaking words that eat like a gangrene and beleeving a lye deserveth rather an indulgence in a Saint then murthering whoring oppressing And why but we may tolerate all the Saints because they are Saints as well as some sinne no lesse yea more dangerous then these that are not to be tolerated for to infect the flocke with lying doctrine is more hurtfull to the Church then the example of adultery or murther in a Saint if toleration of all wayes and liberty of professing or publishing whatever tenets or doctrines seem good to a man in his owne eyes though to the perverting of the faith of many be a means of finding out many precious truths as Libertines say then hath God commanded all men to speake all kind of lies against God his Son Christ heaven hell the resurrection the last judgement the immortalitie of the soul though most pernicious to soules for God commandeth all meanes of finding out truth for it cannot be said he commands all lawfull meanes for Libertines hold that to professe and publish what the most erroneous conscience dictates to be the truth of God though it be black heresie is to speak the truth as an Indweller in the Lords holy hill Psal 15. so saith Vaticanus and all the Libertines who make the conscience right or erroneous the rule of the Christian mans walking not the word of God and in so doing the Lord must by the Libertines doctrine command men to speak lies in the Name of the Lord and must command Hereticks and Saints to pervert the soules and the faith of one another and make one another children of perdition and not spare the flock but devour and hunt soules and so shall the Lord command sinne 6. How doth non-toleration and libertie of beleeving every spirit seeming to us to be of God bring men in a posture of uncapabilitie of being delivered from error and ignorance the word never maketh a libertie to beleeve lies a way to be delivered from error The way to be delivered from error is to be humble and fear God and he shall teach us his waies Psal 25. 9. 14. Joh. 7. 17. 2 Thes 2. 11 12. Baptist ibid. God will have the meanes used by every man according to his own light and knowledge that he may be fully perswaded in his own conscience and no man knowes Gods cabinet counsell Ergo We cannot be competent judges of other mens consciences who are Hereticks who not Answ God will have the meanes used by every man according to his own light I distinguish according to his own light and conscience as a necessarie condition that must be in all right judging it is most true for he sins grievously who in judging goeth contrary to the inditement of his own conscience and so God will have the meanes used by every man according to his own light and conscience as his obliging rule which layeth a law and a tie upon him to beleeve and professe that is most false for the word of God not every mans conscienceis the obliging rule of his actions as is proved 2. The conclusion is most false for though we are not to judge who are elect and who reprobate because we are not upon Gods Cabinet counsell yet do we not intrude upon Gods secrets to judge who is an Heretick or a false Teacher or who sound in the faith by his doctrine examined by the law and the Testimonie for how can God say Beware of the false Prophet Matth. 7. 15. if it were arrogancie and an intruding upon Gods Cabinet counsel to judge a false Prophet by his doctrine to be a false Prophet how can we avoid an Heretick more then a Saint if we may not lawfully judge an heretick to be an Heretick Obj. 14 The Holy Ghost not only foresaw there would but determines there must be heresies and its expedient for the exercise of love and the discoverie of truth and the Professors thereof are not Errors as well as afflictions a part of Christs discipline then let it have its perfect work till it be cured by its proper remedie the sword of the Spirit It s not said there must be murtherers as it is said there must be Heresies Some seem so to be in love with new opinions as they extoll them one a very worthy Preacher saith variety of faces is not an affliction but matter of much admiration to behold So varietie of judgements simplie considered is not a grief but a glorie to me to behold when one spirit of grace and heavenlinesse is in them all for I count it a glasse of Gods own making wherein to behold his manifold wisedome Answ 1. There is no question but God hath wise and noble ends why he permits Heresies but we no more can Orthodoxly say That God determines Heresies then that God determines that sin must be for Heresies are sins now wee say not soundlie That God determines or decrees sins shall be sine adjecto he determines to permit sin 2. God determines Heresies must be so he determines that murthers adulteries oppressions must be it then shall follow the Christian Magistrate by this Argument does tolerate murthers oppressions as he tolerates heresies but the conclusion is grosse because Heresies are the Churches affliction and so are bloods and oppressions of the Saints shall then Christian Magistrates tolerate
not necessarie necessitate medij The tolleration of all who err in non fundamentals examined M. Iohn Goodwin hag●omastix sect 26. pag. 24. Queries proposed to Mr. Joh. Goodwin who asserteth a Catholicke toleration of all Religions upon the ground of weaknesse of free-will and want of grace 〈…〉 Augus 〈◊〉 dicu relinqu●s liber● orbatrio cur enim non in homicidiis in stupris in quibuscunque 〈◊〉 facinorib●● flagiciis libere arbitrio dimittendum to esse proclamas quae tamen omnia justis leg ib●● comprim● utilissimuma ●●ahiberrimu● est dedit quidem De●● homini liberani 〈◊〉 sed nec bonam Infruct ●osam nec malam voluit esse impunitam li. 1. Con. Gaudenti c. 19. secundum est as fallatissimas vanissim●sque rationes haberis laxatis atque dimissis humana licentia impu●●sta pe●cata omnia relinquentur 〈…〉 Most arguments of Libertines infer a Catholicke toleration in non-fundamentals as wel as 〈◊〉 fundamentals What deductions the spirit makes in the soule of an elect knowing but a few f●●dam and going out of this life thou knoweth To know revealed truths of God is a commanded worship of God One Generall Confession of faith without a particular sense containing the true and orthodox meaning of the word not sufficient Divers pious conferences betweene us and Lutherans They hate God and love blasphemies in the consequence who obstinately hold them in the antecedent They may bee false teachers and so punishable who erre not in fundamentals Divine right of Church-government 1 Tim. 1. 3. 1 Tim. 5. 19 20. 1 Tim. 6. 3 4 5. 2 Job 10 11 1 Tim. 1. 3 4. 1 Cor. 3. Act. 2. Act. 11. 1 2 3 4. c. Divers things not fundamentally believed with certainty of faith Rom. in a 〈◊〉 f. 7 fides millinaria potest esse omnium pessima Beleeving of truths revealed of God with a reserve blasphemous and concerning beleevers in Scepticks and 〈◊〉 Beleev●ng w●th a reserve ●gainst the motion of the Holy Ghost Beleeving with a reserve against the stability of faith Against the trying of all things and spirits injoyned by the Holy Ghost Faith with a reserve against our prayers for knowledge and growing therein The Holy Ghost bids us not beleeve with a reserve To beleeve with a reserve contrary to our doing and suffering for truth in faith Two distinctions necessary touching controverted points Some things of their own nature not controversall yet the deductions from them to our blinde nature are controversall Fundamentalls of faith most controversall to our blinde nature Some far off errors may bee tollerated Schisme and actuall gathering of churches out of churches cannot be tollerated The place Ro. 14. willing us to receive the weake no plea for tolleration The place Philip. 3. 15. Let us walke according to the same rule c. nothing 〈◊〉 tolleration Remonstrant i● Apologia p. 40. P. 268. 〈◊〉 tu●a heresis 〈…〉 ●rr●r qui in merte errantis ta●●um l●cum habet ●rrer nec objectum nec causa punitionis est error enim merus erra●tem non egreditur ergo 〈◊〉 necoer●●ri quidem potest animus hominis imprio humano non 〈…〉 humane 〈…〉 Apo. ●24 ● 28● Liberti●es m●ke heresie a meere innocent and unpunishable error of the minde Heresie is a sin as well as Idolatry though we could neither desine heresie nor Idolatry Heresie proved to be an hainous sin Remonstrance Apol. 24. f. 283 Remon Apol. 24. f. 285. Min●s Celsus 〈◊〉 heretic coer se● ● f. 9 10 11 12. The holy ghost contrary to Libertines supposeth unden●●●bly that hereticks are knowne and so they are not knowne to God only when 〈◊〉 b●ds us beware of them avoid them bid them not God sp●●d Pertinacie may be is known to men Libertines openly contradict the holy ghost in that they forbid to judge false teachers to bee grievous wolves Remonst Apol. c. 24. 285 de ma●i●ioso volu●tatis actu 〈◊〉 pertina●ia que est formalis ratione h●resees 〈◊〉 nisi so●us ●o●e judicari potest humana omni● judicia de mente animoque alterius incerta sunt conjectura fallaces nisi cum quis quod malum esse novit facere vult nemo dedita opera erras aut errare se sibi p●rswadet cum de ●terna salute agitur quare fas non est invito alicui tribuere malitiam caritas aliud swades Heresie a wicked resisting of the truth and yet not the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost Liberti●es say that an hereticke dying for his heresie hath no evill conscience but a spirituall and heavenly end Tundite tundita An●x●rchi follem Anax●rchum enim non tundit Celsus ibid. The vain glory and malice of the devills martyrs who dye for heresie Fol. 18. Spirituall stupidity and malice both together in hereticks and Sathans martyrs Some ignorance consists with the sinne against the holy ghost Re●●●n apol c. 24. 280 281. Ve lelius de Ar●●n Ar●ini P 4. l. 2. c. 4. n. 5 Who is an to Arminians Titus 3. 10. Nevi te esse primo genitum Satauae None to Libertines are hereticks but such as professe a Religion which they with perswasion beleeve to be false Liberty of prophesying taken in a threefold sense The words quench not the spirit vindicated from speaking for liberty of prophesying any thing Remon Apol. c. 24. Fo. 281 282 Spiritum ne extinguite id est spirituales verbi Dei sensus quos quis se habere a Spiritu Dei id est vel per inspirationem suggestionem Spiritus vel anxiliante Spiritu Dei sibi persuadet quo sensu vocem Spiritus videntur ipsi Apostoli aliquando accipere 2 Thes 2. 2. 1. Ioh. 4. 1. Qua quam alio sensu accipi potest R●mon Ap 282 To desire false Prophets to cease out of the land is no quenching of the Spirit Remon Apo. 282. Remon 16. How the Arminian Libertines do define an heretick Heretickes to Libertines only such as deny things knowable by the light of nature diversity of opinions among them The punishing of men forpublishing of fundamental errors and the indulgence of a toleration yeelded to them though they teach all errors in non-fundamentals a vain distinction and hath no ground in scripture Some murthers non-fundamentall ●n David which yet are consistent with the state salvation should as wel be tolerated as some errours in non-fundamentals by the distinction of Libertines Some non-fundamentals clearely in the 〈◊〉 revealed not to be beleeved with a reserve and others non-fundamentals with 〈◊〉 Queries propounded to Libertines Why may not the Magistrate lawfully spare the life of him who out of a Libertine conscience meerly sacrificeth his childe to God● or why should ●e punish with the sword some acts not destructive to peace in the con●cience of the punished and not a● acts of the same ki●d To compell men to do against their conscience that is to sin neither in Old or New Test-lawfull Deut 13. Deut. 17. ●pan● 〈◊〉 Apo c. 25. f. 290. There is