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A91845 The second part of the vanity & childishnes of infants baptisme wherein the grounds from severall Scriptures usually brought for to justifie the same, are urged and answered. As also the nature of the divers covenants made with Abraham and his seed, briefly opened and applied. A.R. May 3. 1642.; Treatise of the vanity of childish baptisme. Part 2 Ritor, Andrew. 1642 (1642) Wing R1541; Thomason E59_5; ESTC R3120 27,552 31

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