Perfection Naylor against Ives p. 13. Farnworth against Hagger p. 7. That those that have received Christ and God are come to perfection that all such as are in Christ are without sin Alas poor men their perfection is verbal their imperfection real they are perfect Talkers very imperfect Walkers he that is not blind may see your nakednesse that they impudently boast of they are far from only they glory in their shame and count their unrighteousness for righteousnesse if to be proud railing cursing and blaspheming z Phil. 3.12 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 seducing of Souls be to be perfect then are they such far better men have been far more humble not that I have already attained saith Paul In many things we offend all a Jam. 1.2 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Naylors Answer to Pendarres p. 7. and he that saith he hath no sin is a Lyar and the truth is not in him 2. Of Discerning That the Saints by the Spirit that is in them can judge of mens hearts and that such judging is Christs judging of men and that Christ shall judge no where else but in the Saints Miserable men that know not themselves nor their own hearts and yet pretend to the knowledge of others contrary to that who knows the things of a man but the spirit of a man that is in him And it were a happinesse to them if they should not all b 2 Cor. 5.10 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Hel broke loose p. 37 appear before the jugement seat of Christ to render an account of the things they have done in the flesh for God hath appointed a day in which he will judge the world by the man Jesus of which he hath given witnesse in raising him from the dead as Peter hath it Other strange Doctrines have been broached by some of them Nicholas Kate of Harwel in Barks 1. That Marriage was made by man e In doctrine false in practice possibly true 2. That Christians were worse then Beasts 3. That any woman was as free to him as his wife 4. That his wife was no wife of his she was a Limbe of the Divel f Holy St. Nicholas 5. That he was holy and all things that he touched were holy 6. That when the fulnesse of time was come he should work miracles g In good time One of Bristol being at Marleborough in the County of Wilts affirmed 1. He knew no such thing as the Resurrection of the body h 1 Cor 15. Act. 1.11 2. That the body of Christ was not in heaven neither should he come thence with a body 3. He defended those that went naked They have need of a covering his to short This is but one part of his perfection h but none beside himself confident 4. That he went to bed with a woman not his Wife without sin k 5. That he was confident of his perfect holinesse One would wonder that a very natural conscience and those things should stand together but being delivered up to strong delusions they beleive a lie and by a new light from Hell even extinguish the very light of nature till God in Hell shall raise it up again that a conceit of perfect holynesse could be embraced with confidence by such an unclean person If the Reader will trouble himself with more he may read these following Tolderryes foot out of the snare 1. That Edens garden is the World the trees all living beings that Paradice is in man that men fell by harkening to the wicked which was the fle hly mind and that not the woman properly but the silliest and weakest part was the woman that tempted him that Adam was the earthly nature in man and indeed there are extreams to which they are delivered up viz. To take some Scriptures in the strictnesse of the Letter against all sense reason and other Texts 2. To Allegorize and make a mystical meaning the main and only sense of words that are hystorical and literal m est modus in rebus Act. 4.13 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 2. That the Redeemer of man is not that person the Son of God that dyed at Hierusalem but the light which is in every particular man by which he is given to see sin Kate could not or would not when he went to another womans bed and enabled by it if obedient to be redeemed from sin What is this o Pelagianisme Popery worse then both But 1. to evacuate the whole mystery of redemption 2. setting up a righteousnesse of works 3. yea making corrupt conscience in fallen man a Saviour 4. and fallen man sufficient to save himself 3. That searching the Scriptures is not the way to find out the Knowledge of Christ but the turning the mind within Contrary to that of Christ search the Scriptures for they testifie of mee p Jo. 5.39 Q. Fol. 2. v. in fine Questions proposed to and answered By Joseph Frice Quaker Quest WHether the Scriptures be the rule of trying and judging all matters of Faith and obedience to God Answ I prove not Joh. 5.22 The father judgeth no man but hath committed all judgement to the Son a A worthy proof if a man could see where the strength lay Quest Whether the light within be sufficient to guide to Salvation if you never had heard of the Bible Answ If I had never seen nor heard of the Bible yet beleiving the witnesse which God hath given which is Christ the light hope and glory in us I should have attained to the Knowledge of God b Obscure or false Quest Whether the teachings or writings of any of your way be infallible or of equal authority with the Scriptures Answ I say we do not erre in speaking of writing the Truth and that of God in all consciences shall one day witnesse this to be true and infallible and the Scriptures and our writings hath and will most certainly come to passe Quest Whether the Father the Word and the Spirit be three distinct persons in the self same Godhead Answ Three distinct persons I deny it is like the Bishops in Rome may own thee in them for that is some of their unfruitful works of darknesse Quest Whether Christ hath a divine and humane nature in one person Answ Thy words Humane nature I return them with those words three persons into the pit of confusion from whence they came Quest Whether Christ remains for ever a distinct person from all the Saints Answ but as for being a distinct person from all the Saints he is not Quest Whether the true Church hath failed upon earth since the death of the Apostles until now If not in what age or ages or among what people hath it continued Answ He can send all both great and small rich and poor bond and free to receive a mark in their foreheads or in their right hand Rev. 13. thus the true Church ceased since the death of the
in interpretation to set them above them as he that loves any thing equal to God loves it indeed more then God the setting up of any writings in equipage with Gods is a debasing of his word Again some of them assert that they have as full b There fulnesse is of the evil one p. 3. Q. 10. at the end of a Gagg a measure of the Spirit as the penners of the Scriptures had * Truths Defence p. 43. the fulnesse of the Spirit is well known by the emptinesse of their fruits had they said that they have as full measure of the evil spirit as Marcian primogenitus diaboli the first born of the Divel as Polycarpe calls him they had come neer the Truth This corner-stone being laid by these Master-builders of Sathans Babel they go on to deny 1. The personal body of Christ George Fox being asked whether Christ have a body in heaven and be a particular man or person Truths defence p. 78. 79. incompassed with a body to live for ever yea or no affirms That Christ hath but one body and that is the Church That 1 Christs mystical body corpus mysticum is the Church and that 2 This is but one is according to truth answerable to that we beleive Sanctam Catholicam Ecclesiam the Holy Catholick Church but 3 That Christ hath but one body is contradictory to the whole History of the four Evangelists which so often speakes of that body which he took of the Virgin Mary of whom Christ 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 after the flesh came as Paul phrases it and how he ascended and shall come again Luke acquaints us Acts 1 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 9 10 11. Shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him goe into heaven But this is not the first time that this Heresie hath been broached nor confuted many a hundred yeers ago were these things upon the stage of the World dic mihi aliquid novi aut tace trouble us not with old rotten stinking errours Secondly In their book called The persecution of the Quakers First the corporeal Body of Christ And secondly his coming in the Clouds to to judgment are denyed 1 pag. 8. Priest Herrick did affirm before the Magistrate and many others that the body of Christ is not spiritual and when he was by William Adamson challenged for his blasphemy he said he would prove it by Scripture and produced those words Christ said I am not a spirit and then he was by him charged with a lie for there was no such words in that Scripture 2. p. 9. Let their own words try them who look for a Christ yet to come as some of them said what will yee Quakers do who saith Christ is within you when Christ comes in the clouds here now all people do but honestly examine and see whether these spirits confess Christ who looks for him yet to come and whether you dare believe the Apostle every spirit who doth not confess Christ Jesus come in the flesh is not of God or these deceivers who look for him yet to come these things are so palpably gross and weak yea even irrational that their needs no words to the misproving of them 2. The Visible Church Whereas a Book entituled fiery darts saith R.B.Q. 20. p. 26. that since the Apostles dayes there hath been a great Apostacie and that a true Church of Christ could not be found are you of the same mind Answ yea Herein agreeing with those formerly called Seekers 1. That there was and is a great Apostacie as the Scripture foretold so experience hath evidenced and that Apostacie in all ages more or less hath been witnessed against V. Catalogum testiū veritatis but 2. such an Apostacie as hath wholy destroyed the Church and laid it so under ground as that it cannot be found what is this c. what is this but to make much of Scripture at present of no use which directs Sts. concerning Church Communion among others Heb. 13.17 obey them that have the rule over you and submit your selves for they watch for your souls 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 2. To invalidate those promises of Christ Matth. 16.18 Vpon this rock will I build my Church and the Gates of Hell shall not prevail against it and I will give unto thee the Keys of the Kingdome of heaven 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 And Matth. 28.20 Loe I am with you already to the end of the World 3. To give you this whole World visibly into the hands of the Prince of the World as if Christ had not overcome but being overcome by Sathan 3. Thirdly against the Scriptures 1. That it is dangerous for the ignorant and unlearned to read the Scriptures Truths defence pag. 101. 1. How far is this from the assertion of the Papists 2. How doth it justifie them in their prohibiting of Lay-men to read the word 3. and makes fair way to usher in Imagines laicorum libros Images as Lay-mens Books Secondly If any raises from the Scriptures points trials motives uses he adds to the Scriptures and to him are added the curses and plagues In eodem loco Rev. 22.18 Whether this but 1. to destroy all preaching 2. to condemn their own selves 3. to discover their ignorance between the explaining of Truth and coyning of falsehoods to passe as new truths their additions are corruptives the Ministers for illustration information incitation to edification 4. to condemn Christ and his Apostles which applied and urged in many places of the Scriptures out of the old Testament cited 3. Fiery darts p. 19. 30. 32. Quakers folly p. 25. 2. Ed. That the Scripture is not the word of God nor a standing rule In this way are grosely ignorant or wilfully malicious or both they will acknowledge no word of God but Christ as if no difference between verbum internum externum an inward and outward word verbum oris Scriptum the word spoken and written the thoughts of my mind are soliloquia a talking with my self what I speak is the word of my mouth and what I write is my word under my hand Christ is the eternal internal word of God the Wisdome of the father the Scriptures much of it was spoken by God by the mouth of his holy Prophets and all written as holy men of God were inspired by the Holy Ghost they would seem to exalt Christ it is to debase the Scriptures and deifie the light within them but if they will not hear Moses and the Prophets which testified of Christ neither would they Christ the word of God 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Heb. 1. 1. God who in sundry times and in diverse manners spake in times past unto the Fathers by the Prophets was not that then the word of God the prophets spake 2. And why not a standing rule The papists indeed say it is a nose of wax a leaden rule that the Pope may stand
all and to leave us in worse then Aegyptian darknesse 5. Against Original Sin Proud Pharisee reproved p. 13. That the Doctrine of Original corruption is a Soul-destroying God-blaspheming doctrine Surely those that boast of perfection are perfect no where neither in their hearts nor words not so much as ad integritatem to soundnesse but wholly corrupt denying Original Sin the old Pelagian Arminian Anabaptistical error so much against first cleer Scripture and secondly sad experience first the Scripture paints us to the life what by Nature and what born secondly and we our selves discover our selves even going astray as it were visibly from the Mothers womb Oh! that they which pretend so much to the extraordianry mind of God should be such strangers to their own hearts 6. Against Justification 1. That this is a blinde doctrine which preaches Hel broke loose p. 22. 23. Burroughs against Firmin p. 21. Naylor against Higgenson p. 8 22. Truths defence p. 95. that righteousnesse which justifies is not in them 2. He that hath a covering for his sins no nearer then above the Stars will one day be found naked 3. The obedience of Christ and of the Creatures is not two Obediences but one 4. That Christ bought us not with the price of his blood that was shed upon the Crosse at Jerusalem onely These tenets 1. how derogatory are they to Christ 2. how comfortlesse to sinners 3. how crosse to the designe of God to exclude boasting 4. yea how pernicious to Souls first in tempting them to the rejecting the righteousnesse of God of Faith of Christ and secondly seeing after a righteousnesse of their own which they shall never attain unto 5. How neer of kin to those positions of the Papists de justificatione but either we must stop our eares to such doctrine or refuse to open them to plain Scripture 7. Against religious Education That for Masters and Mistresses to make their Servants read Scriptures Proud Pharisee reproved p. 37. and to bring them to the publick Ordinances argues a persecuting Bonner-like spirit and is a seeking to dethrone Christ and is treason against the King of Saints and his tender Lambs What is this Gen. 18.19 but first to load with calumny and reproach that which God highly commends in Abraham secondly and to deter men from that which God in the Old and New Testament doth so inforce upon them Thirdly but all is of designe that first so Children and Servants may be left as a prey to them secondly and God altogether forsaken in the next generation and his name nor named among men 8. Of Light within To shew they are in Darknesse and would hold men there they assert heterodoxes concer-cerning the Light within as Answ to Westmerland Petition pag. 14. 1. That the Light which is in every one that comes into the world shews a mans sin and evil and the deceipts of his own heart They are strangly confused in holding out their Light and know not how well to distinguish inter conscientiā naturalē a natural conscience mentem divinitus illuminatam a minde illuminated with Gospel revelations they finde Christ called the light Joh. 1.9 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and of him said that he lightneth every one that cometh into the world and that in men naturally there is a Conscience excusing or accusing and these things they strangely jumble together that natural light lux concreata ut naturâ insita doth and will convince men of many sins is undeniable teste experientia by experience but that by the light thereof a man may come to the knowledge of all transgression and be able to see into the bottom of his heart r Jer. 17 9. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 who but an ignorant one in Gods word will affirm 2. That it is pure Naylors answer to Harris p. 11. and whosoever beleeves and followes it shall not abide in darknesse but shall have eternal life Then Christ is in vain if righteousnesse could have been by the Law Christ dyed in vain s Truths defence pag. 86. Gal. 2.21 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 but in as much as it was weake God sent his Son t Rom. 8.3 c. so if life could have been natures light what need Christ have come to be a light to lighten the Gentiles u Luk. 2.32 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that were without God and Christ strangers from the Covenant aliens from God w Ephes 2.12 through the ignorance that was in their mindes x Ephes ◠18 Naylors answer to Higgenson p. 6. Wickednesse weighed p. 22. Farnworth against Hagger p 57. Naylers answer to Higgenson p. 5. Farnworth against Hagger p. 54. Naylers answer to Harris p. 15. Farnworth against Haggers pag. 48. Burroughs against Firmin p. 18. 19. Answer to Bork p. 6. 7. Hubberthorn against Winterton p. 8. Burroughs answer to Bunnion p. 18. 3. They make it all and every thing quidlibet ex quolibet as appears by those assertions of theirs 1. Christ is this light 2. it is the Light and Spirit of Christ 3. it is the Light Spirit and power of God to Salvation 4. the perfect Law of Liberty 5. the Lord God and the Lamb is the Light within me 6. it is the Light of the Covenant of Grace 7. It is God and when Paul committed the Saints to God it was to the light within them 8. it is the word of Faith 9. Reason and understanding 10. a perfect rule in every mans Conscience 11. that in a man which is just equal and righteous telling him he ought not to do wrong 12. that from which the Scriptures were given forth 13. the same thing with the light and life of Adam in Paradise 14. No other thing then the light of the Gospel 15. the same light with the anoynting both in Beleevers and in Unbeleevers A pretious thing if they could tell what but thus they speak Truths defence p 67. Esay 8.20 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 because the Light is not in them but by this Light a man may see a designe of darknesse there is as 1. to take men off from the Scriptures 2. To lul asleep their own Consciences when they alone shall be judge of their own actions To prepare them to receive any dictates that an impudent fellow shall dare to impose from the Light within him 4. To give men up into the immediate hands of the Devil to be absolutely at his command when he shall strangely suggest any thing to them taking his impulses of darknesse to proceed from Conscience Spirit Christ God within them as is plain in Gilpin and Tolderrey These are grand Errors Heresies Blasphemies of theirs razing the very foundation leading men from God Christ Scripture unto the Devil and Destruction other grosse absurdities there are for uno concesso sequuntur millia but because we have sufficiently raked already in a filthy Dunghil we shall but onely name them 1. That of
the Spirit Danson The Spirit is antecedent in respect of the revelation but subsequent the Letter in respect of assistance which he gives to obedience Fisher If there was a rule before the Scripture then that is not a rule but there was therefore Danson It was the same matter since the Gospel preached to Adam no increase of truths quoad essentiam sed tantum quoad explicationem the manner of conveyance different but the matter of Doctrine conveyed still the same Fisher Rom. 10.8 The word is mighty even in thy heart but yours is without Danson It is in thy mouth too For you read not all Fisher This is meant of the light in every mans conscience it is a word which every man hath heard Vers 18. But I say have they not heard Yes verily their sound went into all the world Danson Then the light within is the spirit you pleaded for to be the rule in opposition to Scripture N. B. But vers 18. speaks of the Gospel relating to the Preacher v. 14 15. And though the words are taken out of Psalm 19. yet they intend not that naturall knowledge of God which David speaks of but the Apostle intimates the knowledge of Christ by the Gospel should be of as large extent in the publication as the knowledge of God by the hearers ministry And the word said to be in the heart is meant of the matters conteined in the Scripture that is the word of faith which we preach Fisher Col. 3.16 Let the word of Christ dwel in you richly yours is without Danson It was without as it was the Letter of the Scripture and his exhortation was to get acquaintance therewith and he prescribes means in teaching one another singing of Psalmes which were part of the words of Christ as the matter and author Fisher It is a fond custome to make the people sing Davids conditions who have not his spirit Danson Your objection holds as strongly against the use of them in the times of the Old Testament and yet then they were part of publique Temple-worship nor is it more a lye to sing then read them By this Dispute you have a further discovery of their false Doctrines and that in matters of great concernment how 1. They labour to make the Scriptures imperfect 2. Themselves perfect 3. And the naturall light in man sufficient to salvation 4. How while they would set up Christ in word they would set up a righteousness of their owne to Justification In a word how in many things they plead the Popish cause while they cry down the Ministers of Christ You may also see their weakness and wickednesse in wresting of Scripture how that strength of argument will not satisfie and secure their obstinacy in darknesse under a pretence of light within them God heal them of their blindesse and obstinacy or stop up their way that they may not seduce Soules to destruction and guide them that feare his name in wayes of Truth and holinesse through the Lord our Righteousness Amen CHAP. X. Shewing 1. Quakers instrumental to the introducing of Popery 2. In some of their Tenents dangerous to States The first may appear both by Principles and Practices 1. In their Tenents 1. THat the Ministers of the Reformed Churches are no true Ministers 2. That a man is justified by the merit of his good workes 3. That the Scriptures should not he read by ignorant and unlearned 4. That a man may perfectly keep the Law 5. Denying the imputed righteousness of Christ for justification 6. That Scripture is not the supream rule 7. Pretending to revelations and miracles 8 That H. D. doth not know whether Purgatory be revealed in Scripture or not 9. The infallibility of their Ministry 2. Their practice 1. GEorge Cowlishaw Pryn. The Quakers deny the thing The innocent delivered out of the snare p. 40. and the cry of blood p. 8â— on this reason to affirme no such persons spake among them and they know the names of such as have not railed Ironmonger of Bristol affirms on oath January 22. 1654. that in September before he had some discourse there with one Coppinger an Irish man who told him that he had lived in Rome and Italty 8. or 9. years and had taken the order of a Franciscan and that he had been at London lately for some moneths and whilst there had been at all the Churches and meetings publique and private that he could hear of a How diligent and that none came so neer him as the Quarkers b To their praise And being at a meeting of the Quakers he there met with c A design two of his acquaintance at Rome of the same Franciscan order that were now becom chief d A fair door opened speakers among the Quakers and that he himself had spoken among the Quakers in London about thirty times and was well approved of among them e Marke Coppinger asked him if there had been no Quakers at Bristoll he answered no. He replyed that if he would give him 5 pound he would make it five hundred if some did not come within a moneth and about 18. dayes after there came two probably his two Franciscan Fryars which did much hurt and gained many Disciples As also by what follows c. 11. c. 4. Since which they have there taken root and spread of which you have a full discovery in the story of James Naylor before spoken of who in his answer to Baxter p. 15. takes notice of this story and thus replyes If reason may judge most likely came over to second your envy against us why did you not keep him Seeing the Law required it then might it have been proved if he had been a Speaker amongst us And in the margin read the judgements of God begun on him who took that oath and take warning Answ 1. to the 1. It will not easily be credited unlesse by themselves their tenents and practices have rendred them so bad we need not be put to such unworthy shifts 2. Are all Lawes executed we should then be in a far better condition and they in a worse yea Naylor himselfe through connivance fared better then the Sentence did allow 3. How blind is that in the Margin the thing he hints is so remarkable and making to his purpose that hee should have told what or where 2. Samuel Fisher 1. Quakers folly p. 56. denyed not that he had been at Rome but that he received a pension from the Pope he utterly denyed which is probably as true for it is had from very good hands that in his late travell to Constantinople and thence to Rome he had as good bills of Exchange as most Gentlemen that travell and yet it is well known that he hath no visible estate and the Quakers that came to the dispute did report that he did bear his witness against the Pope and Cardinals at Rome and yet they suffered him not to be medled
with is it not very suspicious the true cause of his safety was his complyance with them The Doctrines which he broaches every where being theirs and a fair inlet to their bag and baggage 2. Mr. Thomas Faxton jurat Thomas Barber Cooper sufficient and credible men of Sandwich had some discourse wth him at Dunkirke and he told them he looked upon the Jesuits and Fryars there to sounder f As sound had been fair in Doctrine then those we call the Reformed Churches 3. Hundreds can testifie how light he made of the charge of Popery on the first day of the Dispute when Amesius against Bellarmine was produced and with a gesture of derision he replyed that Bellarmine held many truths which must not be rejected because he held them To the former part of this story Gotherson g Allarm p. 80 makes a reply such as it is viz. For those false aspersions cast upon him of receiving a pension from the Pope I know his soul abhorreth any such thing and that he is as great a hater of the Pope and his wayes as any man in England is and I know he hath no such need nor ever will have for they that seeke tht kingdome of God and the righteousnesse thereof all other things shall be administred to them And I do verily think that there is not a man in England more able to confute error and heresie Answ Many words little proof a great cry and no wooll he saith they are false aspersions but proves it not verba non sunt probata unlesse that this must be admitted for one I know his soule abhors any such thing he may be deceived in the temper of his owne soule much more in anothers but he is as great a hater of the Pope and his wayes as any man in England 1. The Pope and his wayes are better beloved then I did imagine 2. Surely there are thousands in Enland not halfe so well affected as he 3. His hatred and the greatnesse of it visibly appears by the latter part of the relation Again I know he hath no such needs nor never will have 1. Many men do that of which there is no need There are that have pensions not out of necessity though he be not one of the Popes Almes-men yet he may be one of his Factors but how proves he he never will have for they that seek the kingdome of God the Scripture is true the inference false 1. Shall we say that those who are necessitated to receive almes or pensions seek not the kingdome of God Or 2. That none of them that do shall ever come to need I am sure I have seen a Quaker begge and plead necessity and a Minister relieve her too in that condition But that Gotherson hath too high an opinion of Mr. Fisher is evident enough I do verily thinke that there if not a man in England more able to confute errour and heresie Oh England if this be so take up a great lamentation and bitterly bewail thy sad condition and the losse of so many famous men that thou formerly enjoyedst every way furnished with weapons of truth to maintain verity against all opposers but how is thy condition changed that now Mr. Fisher should be as tall as any in England and as fit to contend for the faith But for all these swelling words h 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 of vanity and doting affection of Gotherson Mr. Fishers weakness appears 1. By his running from one thing to another Minister Anabaptist Quaker 2. By his managing the Dispute at Sandwich so far as he was concern'd if he be so able let him peruse his own Fishers Folly his great book in Folio in defence of Anabaptisme and see what he can further maintain or handsomly retract 3. Mr. H. Den in his Quaker no Papist A gagg for Quakers Epist to the Reader pretending to defend the Quaker saith not one word in defence of any Sect but onely the down-right open Papist and uses the very same arguments and the same words against Protestants in generall as the Papists do in their daily printed books And the answer to Mr. Dens Quaker no Papist fol. 59 60. saith I shall only mention a few of Mr. Henry Dens positions delivered by him in this Tract As 1. That he does not know whether Purgatory be revealed in Scripture or not p. 12. l. penult 2. That it is clear whoever takes the oath of Abjuration i And whereas they would blind this with swear not at all yet in other cases they can swear not only before a Magistrate but profanely R. B. in his Q. doth forswear the priviledges of Parliament p. 14. medio 3. That in good earnest he thinks those who had their ordination from the Church of Rome and do not obey the Pope are rebels disobedient and apostates if they defend the necessity of ordination by Bishops pag. 16. medio 4. That he finds as much honest proceedings and credit in Papists as in Protestants p. 15. l. penult and can see no great reason of fear or danger from Papists p. 18. l. 3. 5. That he does very confidently assure himself that if an Oath were tendred to all the Papists in this Nation they would all wilingly swear that neither they themselves nor any that they know did ever use any such practice as is reported of Ramsy by Mr. Prin and some in Cambridge of a Franciscan by Mr. Baxter K. Châ—rles dayes and our owne will testifie and swear that neither they nor any they know did ever make profession for what ends soever to be of any Religion save onely their own p. 19. fine 6. That no Protestant Minister either in England or beyond the Seas hath any better ordination or commission to preach then Geo. Whitehead the Quaker p. 8 9 10. Lastly that the present Roman Church and no other is the pure Spouse of Christ or else there hath been none in all ages Lastly at the end of a Gag for Quakers there are questions propounded to G. Whiteh Fox and p. 16. these considerable passages Have we not cause to believe you Geo. Whitehead to be a Papist For 1. maintaining Popish Doctrines expressed in Ishmael and other of your printed books 2. For refusing to abjure any one point of Popery 3. For deterring the common people from reading Scripture by telling them in your book against Clapham it 's carnal the Letter kills and therefore cannot safely be read by them 4. For defending Bellarmine with your Collegue F. whom you have seen proved a Papist by witnesses in a book printed for Joh Allen p. 57. 5. For your pretending to infallibility in all points 6. For your saying confidently in the Majors house that you knew all the Fathers of the first three hundred years were Papists 7. For your citing places in the Apocrypha for Canonicall Scripture as Parrot cites Wisdome 4. 8 9. to elude Levit. 19.22 See Goliah p. 63. k