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A20144 An answer to a certain godly man[n]es lettres desiring his frendes iudgement, whether it be laufull for a christian man to be present at the popishe masse, and other supersticious churche seruice.; Answer to a certain godly mannes lettres. Becon, Thomas, 1512-1567, attributed name. 1557 (1557) STC 658; ESTC S110274 4,994 18

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An answer to a certain godly man̄es lettres desiring his frendes iudgement whether it be laufull for a christian man to be present at the popishe Masse and other supersticious churche seruice 1557. 3. Re. 18. Wherfore halte ye on bothe sydes If the Lorde be God folowe hym and if Baal be than folowe hym Almighty God lighten our hartes with the knowlage of his worde and geue vs grace to expresse our dueties in our dedes THough I well knowe not what ye be that wrote vnto me yet it semeth that the reuerēt feare of God resteth in your harte ād that ye haue a good opiniō of me And forasmuch as ye so earnestly require mi iudgemēt whether ye maye laufully ī outwarde dedes and words resemble the papists in com̄itting Idolatrie at the presēce of the Masse and other supersticious churche seruice so that ye reteyne the true profession of Christ inwardly in your harte albeit this mater hathe bē ād is already sufficiētly āswered and plainly determined of late by S. Petre martyr in the treatise of Cohabitaciō ād in an other worke as I heare saie of S. Ponet late Bishop of wynchestre wherī he reproueth Hill and Petresone with other such like dissēblers ād haltīg heretiks of thes later dais prouīg that no christē mā maie or can at all one tyme serue God truly with the harte ād the deuil with tōgue and body seing ther is no drawing of cuttes nor parting of stakes betwene Christe and Belial yet will I at your earnest request opē vnto you also my faithe and minde therin For nature willeth that a man should gently shewe hym the right waye that is out of it and Goddes worde commaundeth euery man to loue his neighbour and as muche as in him lieth to procure and further his wealthe ād saluacion And in dede for myne owne parte I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ which I professe ▪ For as S. Paule sayeth it is the power of God vnto saluaciō to euery one that beleueth And to thintent ye shall perceaue my iudgemēt herein not to be rashe I bring with me for a champion the most excellēt doctour S. Austē who if he made as muche against vs as he dothe for vs should be rolled vp that all pulpittes scholes barbours shoppes tauernes ād warehouses should ryng of him Such is the practice of the Deuil ād his worldings to dissemble ād hyde all thinges that make against thē ād falsly to allege ād racke pieces of scripture and good mēnes myndes to seme as though they hade som shewe of truthe for thē This erroneous opiniō ād very heresie of dissimulaciō is not newe nor yester daie sprōgē out of the Hill and stone but the papistes haue of lōg tyme ēbraced it ād in kīg Edwardes daies practiced it hauing this general rule which I wolde not that ye or any honest mā should folowe Iura periura secretū pādere noli That is in Englishe thus So thou doest not thy secretes vtter Sweare and forsweare it maketh no mater But this is an olde heresie newe scoured at least of a thousaunt yeare olde brought in in S. Austens tyme by a certayn sorte of heretikes called Priscillianistes who taught that it was no sin̄e to ly with the lippes to on that was not of their owne religiō so they kept the truthe in their harte alledgeing this sayēg of Dauid in the psal lorde who shal dwel in thi tabernacle c. He that speaketh truth in his harte as though it were ynough ūto saluaciō to speake the truthe in the hart though he lied neuer so ofte with the lippes before him that were not or at least he toke not for his neighbour ād therfore ●hike these heretiks whā S. Paule saied Laiēg aparte lyēg speake the truthe he added these wordes euery one with his neighbour to this purpose that it might he laufull to speake a lye to any other that is not our neighbour that is which dothe not professe that religiō that we doo S. Austē briefly answereth to these and all suche like obiectiones what so euer maye be made If this opiniō ād doctrine saieth S. Austē were foūde catholike and to be allowed it disgraceth and dishonoureth all the martyres and wipeth awaie all persecucion and martirdome For by their opiniō the martirs hade done more godly and more wisely if they had not confessed them selues to be christianes before the tyrannes and persecutours neither hade they made them to be murtherours but with lieng and denyeng the truthe they should haue saued their owne bodies and not haue suffred them to haue executed the mischief thei had cōceaued in their mīds For the tyrānes and persecutours were not the martyrs neighbours by profession of Christes faithe so that they were not bounden to speake to them the truthe with their lippes which they spake with the hart but they were the vttre enemies of God ād the truth If this wer tolerable ād good doctrine saieth S. Austē what neded Petre to lament his sine so bitterly after he hade denied Christ with his mouthe Thinke ye he did before denie him with his harte No no sayeth S. Austē he denyed not his maister Christ with his hart but he lamēted for the punishmēt that was towarde him that he had not professed with his mouthe to saluaciō that he beleued with the hart to iustificaciō therfore the wordes of the prophet Dauid are not so to be takē that a mā maie laufully lye with the mouthe keping the truthe in his harte But it is therfore spokē bicause it maie be that a man maye speake that truthe with the mouthe which cā doo hī no good onles it procede frō the botome of the harte that is if he beleue not that he speaketh as the auncient heretiks the priscillianists ād papists did for they spake the truthe with the mouthe as others did but thei beleued it not nor professed it in harte and as our hillistes petreson̄istes ād other newe heretikes do at this present dissemble liēg with lippes ād professing outwardly thatvhich ī their hartes thei knowe to be false and cleane cōtrary to goddes worde bicause they wolde preserue their substāce And therfore neither of them maye be accompted of the nōbre of those that the prophet sayeth speake the truthe in their harte A true christen man as he professeth the truthe in his harte bicause he so beleueth so wil he do with the mouthspeake it to declare it Agaīst this truthe ther maye be no deceipt in mouth nor hart but he must beleue with the hart to iustificaciō ād make cōfessiō with the mouthe to saluaciō For ī the same Psal. after these words He that speaketh the truthe with his harte immediatly it foloweth He that hathe not done deceat ī or with his tōgue These words the heretikes bicause thei mak agaīst thē vtterly leaue out And the other wordes of thapostle layeng aparte liēg speake the truthe euery mā with his neighbour they expoūde as
the Iewes doo their lawe wher bicause they be commaunded only to deale plainly ād vse mercy with their brethren and neighbours they not only thīke they maie but also doo vse with the christianes al subtiltie deceat gile and crueltie But those wordes are not so to be take as though ther were non other our neighbours but suche as be presently mēbres of the body of Christ and professe one religion and faith with vs but that we shoulde take euery man to be our neighbour whom we wolde haue hereafter to be our neighbour albeit he be not presently our neighbour as Christ did declare the Samaritane to be neighbour to the straunger with whom he vsed mercy and the straunger to the Samaritane And therfore he ought to be taken for our neighbour and no straunger whom we desire as we ought to desire all men to professe Christ as we do And if bicause he is not yet of our faithe some misteries ought to be kept from such a straunger yet we ought not therfore to speake vnto him that which is false For ther were in thapostles tyme that preached Christ and the truthe not truly that is not with a true minde and sincere conscience but of enuie cōtēcion and with a corrupt mīde ād yet they wer suffred ād allowed but non cōmēded for speakīg of an vntruthe with a safe conscience And thapostle saieth Let Christ be preached whether it be by occasiō or by truthe but he saied not let Christ be first denied that after he maye be preached We maie not doo euil that good maie folowe for if we doo our damnacion is iuste and certain But let vs turne the wordes bicause we haue folowed euil let vs repent and doo good that we maye come to saluacion These heretikes allege for them examples out of scripture As of the mydwyues of the Egipcianes who made a lye to Pharao to saue the male children of the Hebrewes and therfore God blessed them Of Rahab that made a lye to saue the two Israelites Of Iehu who fayned him selfe the Seruaunt of Baal bicause he wolde destroie the priestes of Baal And of Naaman that sayed to Eliseus the Prophet But herein the lorde be mercifull to thy seruaunt For whan my maister goeth in to the house of Remmon to worship ther he layneth on my hande and I must bowe whā he boweth And so many others But these heretikes are like Spyders that sucke poysō out of swete flowres not like bees that sucke out the swete and profitable honye For the midwiues and Rahab were not rewarded of God for their lieng but for the mercie they vsed towarde the people of God As for Iehu he is not in all scripture cōmēded no scripture saieth of him that his harte was not right before the Lorde And the scripture saieth not that Naamā hade a dispensaciō of the prophet For if the prophet wolde haue consented to his request he hade had nō autoritie to dispense with Goddes worde The dedes of aūcient fathers ād others in scripture are not writtē to thintēt we shoulde folowe thē in euery thīg but many euil thīges be declared of them to let vs knowe that were they neuer so holy yet they were men and might ād did fall that knowīg their ād our weakenesse we should not trust ī our owne selues or ī our owne works but confessing our selues to be sinners we should call to God for mercie To be short S. Austē concludeth that for no cause men maie lye or dissemble ād specially ī maters of religiō they may in no wise doo it And that that is thus spoken against liers and dissemblers maketh asmuche agaīst Idolatrie and wicked doers For in bothe of thē the hart and the outwarde senses doo not agree And this is a general sentence in scripture without exception Thou hatest O God all those that worke iniquitie ād shalt destroie al those that speake lies And Christ also saieth He that confesseth me before mē I will confesse him before my father which is in heauē and he that denieth me before mē I wil denie him before my father in heauē And agaī Wo be to hī by whō slaūdre cometh And again who so euer offendeth one of these litle ones which beleue in me it were better for him that a milstone were hanged about his necke ād that he were drowned in the depthe of the sea Thus ye haue the iudgement of Saint Austen in your question that ye moued with whom I agree and consent bicause I am sure that this doctrine dothe agree in euery parte with the worde of God And therfore onles ye thinke your selfe so sure that ye are hable to abyde what so euer crosse shalbe layed vpon you for Christes sake tempre not God in lyngryng in that lande of the lordes wrathe but in tyme come out of Egipte least with your ouerlong lyngryng and tempting of God he pull awaye his grace from you as a vssel not mete to kepe it and so leaue you to your self to your final destrucion and eternal vndoyng Be not carefull for to morowe make not your good your God as they saye let your worldly substaunce be your seruaunt and not your maister and put your hole trust in God I haue not sene the iuste forsaken saieth the Prophet nor his sede lacke sustenaunce Doo ye not see the foules of the ayer saieth Christ who albeit they sowe not nor reape neither carie into Barnes yet lacke they not for your heauenly father fedeth them how muche more shall be prouyde for you O ye of litle faithe Remembre also that comfortable sayeng of Christ Who so euer shall forsake houses or brethren or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or landes for my names sake the same shall receaue an hundred folde in this life and after this life life euer lasting God is no lyer ne yet dissembler Of his mercie we haue the promyse of his veritie the hope of enheritaunce of his iustice the assuraunce and of his power the full performaūce We haue a playne experiēced exāple of the holy mā Iob to whom albeit God suffred Satā to plage hī yet did he make a ful restitucion and recompēce for all And therfore leaue those fleshe pottes come out of Egipte and serue God bothe with tongue and harte with saiēg ād doing with the outwarde mā and inwarde man that your spirite and your soule and your body maie be in euery parte perfitly sounde as thapostle sayeth and that ye maie with ioie loke for thappearing of the great God and our saueour Iesus Christ. For he hauīg made the hole man body and soule to serue him wil not be contēt to be serued with the one parte ād the Deuil with the other Thou shalt worship the lorde thy God and serue him alone saieth Christ. He will haue all or none Therfore seing all cōmoditie must be hade at his hādes bothe for body and soule let him haue all the vse of bothe as his owne and despere not of his prouidence which is the almighty eternal God blessed for euermore In whō fare ye as hartily wel as I wolde my selfe