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turrian_n reject_v chrysostome_n arthurus_n hierome_n
do_v it_o not_o when_o they_o be_v alive_a nothing_o come_v to_o the_o dead_a in_o psal._n 48._o con_v 1._o ergo_fw-la the_o prayer_n of_o the_o live_a do_v not_o profit_v the_o dead_a argum._n 3._o if_o the_o state_n of_o the_o dead_a can_v be_v alter_v but_o in_o what_o condition_n soever_o they_o die_v in_o the_o same_o they_o rise_v to_o judgement_n than_o it_o follow_v that_o prayer_n be_v in_o vain_a for_o the_o dead_a but_o the_o first_o be_v affirm_v by_o augustine_n vnusquisque_fw-la cum_fw-la causa_fw-la sua_fw-la dormit_fw-la cum_fw-la causa_fw-la sua_fw-la surgit_fw-la every_o man_n sleep_v with_o his_o cause_n and_o rise_v with_o his_o cause_n tract_n in_o joann_n 49_o redimite_fw-la vos_fw-la ipsi_fw-la dum_fw-la vivitis_fw-la quia_fw-la post_fw-la mortem_fw-la nemo_fw-la vos_fw-la redimere_fw-la potest_fw-la redeem_v yourselves_o while_o you_o live_v for_o after_o death_n no_o man_n can_v redeem_v you_o de_fw-fr rectitud_n catholic_n conversat_fw-la tom_fw-mi 9_o quales_fw-la in_o die_fw-la isto_fw-la cuique_fw-la moritur_fw-la talis_fw-la in_o die_fw-la illo_fw-la iudicabitur_fw-la as_o a_o man_n die_v in_o this_o day_n so_o shall_v he_o be_v judge_v in_o that_o day_n epist_n 80._o ad_fw-la hesych_n ergo_fw-la prayer_n be_v not_o available_a for_o the_o dead_a argum._n 4._o that_o which_o a_o man_n have_v obtain_v ever_o already_o if_o ever_o he_o shall_v obtain_v it_o be_v in_o vain_a pray_v for_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o depart_a be_v present_o at_o rest_n if_o they_o be_v count_v worthy_a august_n requiem_n quae_fw-la continuo_fw-la post_fw-la mortem_fw-la datur_fw-la si_fw-la ea_fw-la dignus_fw-la est_fw-la tum_fw-la accipit_fw-la cuique_fw-la cum_fw-la moritur_fw-la rest_v which_o be_v present_o give_v after_o death_n every_o one_o even_o than_o receive_v if_o he_o be_v worthy_a when_o he_o die_v tract_n in_o joann_n 49._o ergo_fw-la it_o be_v in_o vain_a to_o pray_v for_o the_o rest_n of_o their_o soul_n argum._n 5._o he_o that_o depart_v this_o life_n without_o sin_n need_v not_o afterward_o to_o be_v pray_v life_n for_o to_o be_v forgive_v his_o sin_n but_o every_o one_o that_o shall_v be_v save_v go_v forth_o of_o this_o life_n without_o sin_n augustin_n epist_n 89._o ad_fw-la hilar._n qu._n 1._o he_o that_o assist_v by_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n do_v abstain_v from_o those_o sin_n which_o be_v call_v crime_n and_o those_o sin_n without_o the_o which_o a_o man_n live_v not_o here_o do_v not_o neglect_v to_o cleanse_v by_o the_o work_n of_o mercy_n and_o godly_a prayer_n merebitur_fw-la hinc_fw-la exire_fw-la sine_fw-la peccato_fw-la quamuis_fw-la cum_fw-la hic_fw-la viveret_fw-la habuerit_fw-la nonnulla_fw-la peccata_fw-la quia_fw-la sicut_fw-la ista_fw-la non_fw-la defuerunt_fw-la ita_fw-la remedia_fw-la quibus_fw-la purgarentur_fw-la adfuerunt_fw-la shall_v procure_v to_o go_v out_o hence_o without_o sin_n although_o while_o he_o live_v here_o he_o have_v some_o sin_n for_o as_o these_o thing_n be_v not_o want_v so_o the_o remedy_n whereby_o they_o be_v purge_v be_v present_a but_o what_o if_o a_o man_n neglect_n to_o use_v these_o remedy_n while_o he_o live_v certain_o he_o be_v deprive_v of_o they_o for_o ever_o he_o can_v have_v they_o afterward_o augustine_n say_v noli_fw-la differre_fw-la o_o homo_fw-la remedia_fw-la salutis_fw-la tuus_fw-la quia_fw-la nescis_fw-la quando_fw-la anima_fw-la à _fw-la te_fw-la repetatur_fw-la defer_v not_o o_o man_n the_o remedy_n of_o thy_o salvation_n for_o thou_o know_v not_o when_o thy_o soul_n shall_v be_v take_v from_o thou_o ergo_fw-la if_o he_o that_o be_v save_v have_v his_o sin_n forgive_v he_o before_o he_o go_v hence_o prayer_n for_o pardon_n afterward_o be_v superfluous_a argum._n 6._o where_o there_o be_v no_o remission_n of_o sin_n nor_o effectual_a repentance_n there_o prayer_n for_o remission_n be_v in_o vain_a but_o after_o death_n there_o be_v neither_o remission_n death_n nor_o yet_o true_a repentance_n aug._n the_o temp_n serm_n 66._o tempus_fw-la est_fw-la nunc_fw-la remissionis_fw-la poenitentibus_fw-la sed_fw-la tempus_fw-la erit_fw-la post_fw-la mortem_fw-la vindicationis_fw-la negligentibus_fw-la confiteri_fw-la peccata_fw-la now_o be_v the_o acceptable_a time_n the_o time_n of_o salvation_n now_o be_v the_o time_n for_o remission_n to_o the_o penitent_a but_o after_o death_n shall_v be_v the_o time_n of_o revenge_n to_o all_o those_o that_o neglect_v to_o confess_v their_o sin_n serm._n 181._o cap._n 16._o cum_fw-la abducti_fw-la fuerimus_fw-la ab_fw-la hoc_fw-la seculo_fw-la ibi_fw-la poenitebit_fw-la nos_fw-la sed_fw-la nulla_fw-la est_fw-la utilitas_fw-la poenitentiae_fw-la when_o we_o be_v carry_v out_o of_o this_o world_n there_o it_o shall_v repent_v we_o but_o there_o shall_v be_v no_o utility_n or_o profit_n of_o our_o repentance_n ergo_fw-la prayer_n for_o remission_n of_o sin_n be_v in_o vain_a when_o it_o can_v be_v have_v argum._n 7._o every_o man_n die_v either_o penitent_o death_n or_o 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depart_v argum._n 8._o after_o judgement_n prayer_n help_v not_o august_n non_fw-la post_fw-la iudicium_fw-la patet_fw-la precum_fw-la aut_fw-la meritorum_fw-la locus_fw-la there_o be_v no_o place_n for_o prayer_n or_o merit_n after_o judgement_n serm_n 22._o in_o matth._n but_o in_o death_n every_o man_n receive_v his_o judgement_n aug._n in_o psa._n 32._o misericordiae_fw-la tempus_fw-la modo_fw-la est_fw-la iudicij_fw-la post_fw-la erit_fw-la now_o be_v the_o time_n of_o mercy_n the_o time_n of_o judgement_n shall_v be_v afterward_o qualis_fw-la exieris_fw-la ex_fw-la hac_fw-la vita_fw-la redderis_fw-la illi_fw-la as_o you_o go_v out_o of_o this_o world_n so_o shall_v you_o be_v present_v unto_o god_n in_o psal._n 36._o 1._o ergo_fw-la after_o death_n there_o be_v no_o place_n for_o prayer_n i_o can_v produce_v no_o less_o than_o a_o hundred_o of_o such_o place_n out_o of_o augustine_n to_o show_v that_o there_o be_v no_o utility_n or_o profit_n come_v to_o the_o dead_a by_o the_o 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