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A60360	The predestinated thief A dialogue betwixt a rigid Calvinian preacher and a condemned malefactor. In which is not onely represented how the Calvinistical opinion occasions the perpetration of wickedness and impieties; but moreover how it doth impede and hinder, nay almost impossibilitate the reducing of a sinner to emendation and repentance.	Slatius, Henry, 1585-1623.	1658 (1658)	Wing S3982A; ESTC R220063	24,121	82

would that Christ by the blood of his Cross by which he ratified the new Covenant should effectually redeem out of every Tribe People Language and Nation those and those onely which were elected to Salvation from eternity and were given to him of his Father giving them likewise faith and spiritual gifts which he acquired by his sufferings Th. Are all men elected Pr. No p Pisc contra Schafm Thes 115. p. 119. Buc. L. C. de Praedest q. 46. for God meerly out of his own will without any respect to future impieties ordained the greatest part of mankinde to utter destruction Th. Now at length tell me seriously from your heart what you think of me am I of the Elect or no Why do not you answer Speak out and speak plain hide not truth under the ambiguity of words neither let your tongue dissent from your heart for they ought not to be divorced but speak candidly for 't is necessary that I know this If I am a Reprobate I should believe a lie for Christ has purchased nothing for Reprobates if I am Elect I follow the truth and not a lie Now to follow the truth is a work of the Gospel therefore before I do any thing else I will know whether I am elected or not Pr. q Perk. de Praedest p. 89. Gomar de Praedest Thes 4. Dungan Pacif. p. 68. Whosoever is within the pale of the Church is bound to believe that he is redeemed by Christ the Reprobate as well as the Elect yet each after a peculiar manner the Elect is bound that believing he may possess the benefit of his Election the Reprobate is bound to believe from the intention of God he may have the less to plead for himself and therefore r Gomar de Predest Thes 21. Christ is offered to Reprobates not that they should be saved but that being convicted from the incredulity and refractoriness of their hearts they may want all manner of excuse Th. Will you say God would have Reprobates to believe that which is a lie and damn them eternally too if they will not believe it and what hinders but it is so for s Nic. de Schure in Instit after he has once resolved to damn them he may do it which way he pleases Pr. Pray Sir leave off these niceties we have more need to pray to God that he would save your Soul Th. If you will be praying pray for your self for my part I will not spend time and labour so idlely If I am reprobated 't is impossible to acquire Salvation though I should spend a thousand years in praying for the Decree stands so sure t Polan in Doct. de Praedest pag. 139. that as the Elect cannot be reprobated so the Reprobated cannot become Elect for Reprobation is as immutable in respect of God reprobating as man reprobated What good can prayers do then On the contrary if I am elect God has destinated me to salvation from Eternity u Donteclock Instruct de Predest p. 93. and all whom God has ordained to salvation from the foundation of the world are brought to it by the Almighty Power of God that the purpose of Election might stand sure that it is impossible for them any way to perish This has been alwayes my belief according to which I have lived and the Synod of Dort have so confirmed me in it that I would sooner be burnt than depart an hair from it And as God x Cap. 1. Art 11. himself is most wise immutable omniscient omnipotent so that Election by him made can neither be changed revoked or broken nor the Elect perish or their number admit of addition or subtraction 'T is granted y It. cap. 5. Art 4. moreover that the Elect sometimes by the permission of God fall into grievous sins as David Peter and other Saints and they do offend z Art 5. God by such sins and incur the guilt of death grieve the holy Spirit destroy the exercise of their faith wound their consciences and many times lose the sense of grace for a while God nevertheless for the immutable Decree of his Election does not in sad failings quite take his Spirit from them neither does he suffer them to fall a Art 6. so low as to fall from the state of Adoption or Justification or to sin unto death or against the holy Ghost so that he should utterly desert them and leave them to perish infallibly for ever So that they obtain not any thing by their owne worth and strength but of the meer bounty of God b Art 8. that they neither fall totally from grace nor unavoidably into Hell But what is more than all this when as both internal and eternal Reprobation is the operation of God which does not really differ from the essence of God himself why may not we discourse and descant of Election c Polan in Doct. de Predest 'T is granted on all hands that Reprobation as well as Election does not really differ from the Essence of God and therefore it is God himself who in himself is altogether immutable and far be it from me to ask how God can be mutable Pr. Good God! what a sad hearing is this Can a man proceed so far as to be burthened with sin and misery as you are and yet will not call upon his God Th. I would sooner Sir sing that excellent Hymn made by Bernard Biscop heretofore Preacher at Oyen in Gelderland now Preacher at Vtricht till my Chamber rung again Pr. If that man has made a Hymn 't is necessary it be good for he is one teaches all Orthodox Doctrine Let me hear it Th. Hearken diligently the melody of it shall answer to the 103 Psalm You shall briefly perceive in it the universal Rule of my Belief according to which I intend to live and die I. PRaised be God who before I was born nay ere the World was predestinated me to Salvation not according to the Faith or Works which I should have or do in this life but according to his own infinite mercy II. Blessed be God who by the immutable counsel of his own Will has called me inwardly by his Spirit and outwardly by his Word who has inwardly inlightned my minde and corrupt senses by his Spirit and will more and more inlighten them III. Who has freed my base erring will the servant and store-house of sin so that I desire onely to walk in the wayes of the Lord onely to be able is wanting IV. Blessed be God who by his Omnipotent Spirit and Divine Word cooperating has implanted a firm faith in my heart such a strong faith which though by crosses and whatever is worse may be bended and yield yet cannot break V. Who shall seduce the Elect of God Who shall separate me from his love in Christ Who shall pull me out of his Omnipotent Hand Neither the Devil or Death or deadly sins shall be able by all their strength to force away my Crown VI. That good God who has begun a good work in me for his mercy sake will carry it on and perfect it even unto the end even to the end of this miserable life 'T is the Lord my God who will do this that I may persevere being alwayes guarded as it were a Prince by his Spirit Jaylor Pray make an end will you I have enough of these Disputes and Rhymings Is this one of your godly Hymns This is a Song indeed befits a Rogue and deserves singing by none but a Club of Whores and Rogues met at a Bawdy-house Your faith and your manners are even much alike Th. Even jeer on good-man Rogue as much as you will yet I esteem it for an excellent Hymn and were I to die I would sing it on the top of the highest Round of the Ladder before that of Ex profundis Domine c. Out of the deep O Lord c. The Composer of it was one of the Orthodox Contra-Remonstrants Not long ago he being called out of a little Village into the City of Vtricht he there so abundantly well argued for and defended this Hymn that there it was received into the Orthodox Church as really consentaneous to Scripture Jaylor Is this that same Orthodox Doctrine about which these Provinces are so devillishly troubled and pester'd Which that it may be had in holy reverence with the Church Synods and Souldiers use all their Authorities Truly it is a very pretty thing Pr. Sirrah you ought to hold your tongue of such things concerning which you know no more than a Dog Look to it what you say and leave to calumniate the Church and her Doctrine or it shall go worse with you for ere long you shall be so far from being head Jaylor that you shall scarce be admitted to run of a Rogues errand Jaylor If these be your best Arguments Mr. Parson yours is not so certain and good a Religion as you talk for For all your hot words I 'll tell you but thus much that you may very well know that I understand you have done little or nothing for all your many words to the turning this poor Soul from sin and translating him from death to life nay which is worse he is now much more hardned than before Indeed I have heard much of your opinions before but never believed it till now where I have been an eye and ear-witness of all is come out of your mouth Is this your Reformed Religion in good sooth If you had call'd it the Deformed Religion you had hit it as that which is not able to effect any thing of it self unless to stir up security in men and give them an occasion nay spur them to go on in sin Therefore Mr. Parson because you cannot profit this sick sinful Soul any thing by your Doctrine you may walk for I 'll light my Candle and go fetch another who shall contradict your Institutions and be of another-guess Opinion who I suppose will far sooner and surer bring a man to sorrow for his sin and a better life Pr. Do what you please so that you take it for granted you shall not thus scape unpunish'd Jaylor Do what you can I esteem this mans Soul more than your favour In the mean while though you shew your envy and bitterness too much But however God give you good night FINIS

justifie yet notwithstanding we are bound to observe the precepts of God as it is written if you will enter into life eternal keep the commandments Th. Gently good brother l Luth. in Serm. on Joh. 16.4 for thus you deny Christ and destroy faith attributing that to Divine commands or the law which is onely due and proper to God Furthermore I am almost induced to believe that you are an heretick whilst you attribute something to good works in our justification before God m Luther N. T. I say further Sir because the way is narrow you ought to be lowly and humble if you intend to passe for those that are loaded with good works are like those we see go pilgrimage to the reliques of S. James so incompassed with reeds that they cannot passe thither n Id. therefore if you come to heaven with a great bag full of good works you will be forced to lay them down for you cannot get in with them Pr. I confesse that good works are not looked upon as the impulsive cause of our justification and salvation yet for all that we are to take heed that we commit no bad ones Th. Very right Sir we do beware of sins o Catech. Heidel qu. 114. but much more of the law and good works onely heeding divine promises and our end Good God! What good can such miserable sinners as we do when as the most holy men who ever lived whilst they were in this life have had so small beginnings of obedience that you could not out of all their actions pick out one which did not deserve the just punishment yea the eternal punishment rather of Gods wrath then worthy of the reward of eternal life Go to therefore you Pedlers and Sectaries in religion with your good works and follow me who onely build my faith and help in the free grace and mercy of God p Luther of Capt. Babyl ch of Baptism For a baptized Christian is so rich that no sinnes whatsoever they be can rob him of his inheritance or impoverish him unlesse he fall away of himself from the faith All these are the very expresse words of Luther and Calvin and are these of your reformed Divines Pr. Yes but I perceive friend that you confiding in these and such like expressions have taken too much liberty to commit hainous sins therefore 't is necessary that you be instructed of that will of God by which he will be obeyed Th. You speak well Sir but don't you think that I have often thought of it truly I have and have often and much considered with my self about it for y Sturm of Predest Thes 18. pag. 117. I knew the will of God was twofold either Secret or Revealed So that God wills many things which he will not reveal z Id. Thes p. 31. as is clear by this instance a Perk. of Free-grace p. 45. God promulgated this edict by Moses to Pharaoh saying Let my people go when as the secret will of God and purpose was that he should not let the people go Neither b Calv. ad calumn Nebulon. ought this to seem a wonder to you because God has by his secret will decreed some to sin who by his revealed will he has commanded to do no evil Pr. Why so do you believe you perform the will of God when you commit iniquity Th. If c Sturm of Predest Thes 18. p. 17. you look after the hidden will of God whereby he has ordered all things to work for his glory wicked men do do the will of God but ●f you look to the revealed will of God wicked men do it not Pr. You say right therefore you are alwayes to be intent on the external revealed will of God because his hidden will you do not cannot know Th. Truly Sir these same two wills in or of God have alwayes made a great noise in my head and sounded very strangely in my ears d Pisc against Schafm for seeing God does not alwayes will what he e Dungan Pacif. fol. 56. does reveal to us to have willed and his revealed will to be call'd so but improperly his hidden properly furthermore f Calv. ad calumn Neb. pag. 161 to Art 7. that God should by his ineffable counsel will a thing to this end and make it for another and forbid that to be done which he wills to have done I was not very inquisitive about this revealed will Pr. How dare you belch forth such Blasphemies Th. I speak the very truth it self for when-as g Sturm of Predest Thes 1. fol. 3. the secret will of God is wholly onely and alwayes done and nothing happens in the world but God did before decree it nay when this hidden Decree of God is the necessary cause of all things so that God himself wills sin by the will of his bene placet I have alwayes counted it safe to follow the efficacious will of God lest otherwise I should take labour in vain Pr. h Ripert in Colloq p. 250. It is manifest that the Omnipotent God according to his secret Decree and bene placet would not have done what he has commanded to men in his revealed word and that i Id. pag. 252. all things as it appears according to God and his Decree infallibly and necessarily come to pass I go not about to deny nay I expresly hold this opinion in my judgement yet neverthelesse you ought to be the more sollicitous and careful over your self Th. I have read in Scripture Sir that Christ forbids all manner of vain sollicitousness of minde as to adde one cubit to ones height to make one hair black or white and others of these sorts Thence I judge I should do a great deal foolisher as well as more irreligious if I should presume to endeavour and strive against the decree and efficacious will of God Therefore you ought to confess with me that all operations humane commotions internal and external as well the bad as good whether of understanding heart or will have both their rise and efficacy from the force and impulse of Divine Providence so that they cannot but chuse whatsoever God shall will So that in Adams fall God had destinated his heart both to that end and action And hence it is l Calv. of Predest p. 842. that men can never will or do any thing but what God prompts them too whether it be good or evil so that he sometimes guides their hands sometimes holds them now turns them this way then that way and what way soever he pleases that they may effect whatever he has decreed which is only not to be understood of actions which are but of bad and evil likewise for m Calv. de locis praecipuis men sometimes like unto savage beasts run into all manner of viciousness yet for all this it often happens that they are so held in and curbed by an invisible and

and power which is to the elect irresistible for Renovation is a second Creation which does not depend upon the will of man but sole power of God i Donteclock in respons ad ignoti scriptum litera L. 4. M. 1. k Martyr L.C. de lib. arbit p. 978. For as those which are dead cannot raise themselves againe so I can by no means raise my self from the death of sin how much soever the word of God sound against threatning to reward this Spirituall death with an eternall unless God himself be pleased to give a new Spirit unto me wherefore I did wisely even to tarry l Bucer in Rom. 9. till God should come in upon me and by his word and instructions turn my heart for when I should be compeld I could not chuse but follow On the other side I concluded with my self thus If I am reprobated all that lies in me either to do or suffer will be vaine my doings can do me no good may be they may do me harm m Donteclock against Castel p. 171. nay though I should perform all the good deeds n Marl. on Ioh. 15. v. 2. that all the Saints ever did or shall do I could not be saved the decree of God stands so firme and sure Pr. You should have observed the outward and inward call of God both by his word and spirit Th. Could I have behaved my self any otherwise then I have done o Gesel in probat fol. 38. for who are not outwardly by the Gospel and inwardly by the Spirit called according to the good purpose of God cannot obey this call neither can they believe or p Id. 38. convert themselves and God q Smout in pref Concopd fol. 9. draws those that believe so that they will not cannot neither can will to resist his will Whom God enlightens and whose hearts he moves are compelled and cannot but follow when 't is God that calls To illustrate this by an example r Anthon. Thys in doct ord reform Eccles s Contra-Remonst in Colloq Hag. as none can hinder his own production or resurrection so none can hinder the Free-grace of God working in Jesus Christ for our regeneration and resurrection to a spirituall life from these you abundantly see if I had bin thus handled and called of God I could have done no other then followed and obeyed his will Pr. Did you then never heare God thus calling nor find your self ever moved Th. Yes I have often heard yet you very well know that as God has an internall and externall will so there is an internall and externall call t Pareus in Rom. 9. but if this externall call shall be joyned with the internall 't is to be an effect and an ineffable figne of his predestination and this is what the Synod of Dort have not of late so clearly demonstrated u Synod of Dort cap. 1. Art 6. Some have faith bestowed on them by God and others have not proceeds from the eternall decree of God according to which decree he softens the hard hearts and bends their wils to believe but the non-elect the elect by his just judgement he leaves to the hardness and malice of their own hearts Therefore Sir you seeme to be easilier bafled then one of your Coat should be bawling at me so often that I did not hearken to the call and invitation of God and fishing out of me whether I had not heard this call or no and was moved at it x Synod of Dort cap. 3 4. Art 10. For that some are called and converted by the Ministry of the Gospell is not to be ascribed to man as if by his own free will from others instructions he could discern and follow sufficient grace and works for his conversion which that proud Heresie of Pelagius affirms but to God who as he hath from all eternity chosen his in Christ so in time he doth effectually call them bestows on them Faith and Repentance and translates them out of darkness into the Kingdom of his dear Son nay y Ibid. Art 12. God creates this new creation in us without us by such a virtue which is not inferior to that of the great Creation or Resurrection So that all those in whose hearts God has thus strangely and wonderfully wrought are infallibly regenerated and do actually believe Why do you accuse me that I am not converted when to speak the truth I do not see how 't is possible that one who is alwayes tottering and doubting whether he be elected or not can conform himself to the eternal Call this lett being left too over and above that this internal Call doth not concur Pr. Have you then all this while judged your self to be a reprobate O sad to relate Th. That I have and that not without a cause too because God of his own good pleasure has reprobated the greatest part z Smout Concord fol. 109. of Mankinde and reprobates a Trigl Def. fol. 83. are not damn'd for their sins neither are fore-seen sins the cause why any should be reprobated so that 't is necessary we confess b Gesel probat f. 216 217. evil works and incredulity not to be the cause of reprobation So that God out of his will and counsel hath ordained That some should be born as infallibly heirs of Hell as of their Parents that by their destruction his Name might be glorified Pondering these things in my minde I have oftentimes silently thought O good God! hast thou also reprobated me with the greatest part of Mankinde I did easily believe it because thou hast so ordered our reprobation that though it be our misery it turns to thy glory Pr. This is very true that God c Anthon. Thys ad Summam Baron p. 20. from eternity without any respect to sin by his pure absolute Decree which no man can understand has rejected the greatest part of Mankinde and created them to destruction or bequeathed them to destruction in Adams fall from an immutable and inevitable Decree which he decreed with and in himself nay if any one d Id. pag. shall dare to say God hath not decreed to hate man as man his creature but as a sinner he contradicts the Apostle and so consequently won't take the Authority of God himself yet for all this you are not by and by without any more ado to conclude your self a Reprobate Th. You say well but how is it possible that a man whose faith is oppugned with so many various and strong temptations who is given to so many lusts should easily perswade himself not to be reprobated as for example if a man knowes and weighs with himself that not onely aged people but also Infants are of this number e Perk. Cat. pag. 393. so that among Infants that die f Thys in expl doct de Praedest p. 245. some are saved some damned and that before they have done