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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A64459	The Testimony of the Hartford Quakers for the man Christ Jesus vindicated from the malicious slanders, perversions, confusions, impertinencies and idle quibling of William Haworth an independent-preacher ... : with a brief and serious reply by Mary Stout to what concerns her in Christianity re-established, which ... John Crook and William Bayly have discovered ... unto which the substance of this tract will serve for an appendix.	Stout, Mary, 17th cent. Mary Stout's reply to William Haworth's answer.	1676 (1676)	Wing T819; ESTC R32759	41,433	58

to be quiet and give their Souldiers no more pay the King of France had done his Work We say that it is known to be a common Proverb That Money is the Sinnews of War for take away the Money and the Services would cease Now it seems that Money is the Sinnews of his Cause so take away the Money and William Haworth's Services will cease But again in page 30. he hath it up You must give me no Money this Fear of loosing his Sallery doth much trouble him And it 's well saith he if their Religion be not propagated that same Way we know it in a great Part it is To this we say that it is well known our Religion is not propagated by Money and he himself knows doubtless it is not but in all this he will not say that Money is not a moving Cause to maintain his preaching for he knows that if the Money were taken away let who will preach to his Christians at Hartford since he already so severely admonisheth and upbraids them in this Passage viz. Take heed lest they i. e. the Quakers ensnare you by the Gain and Trade of the World they know they have a Hank upon you this way already some of the Town they have won to them by this means others have abated in their Zeal for Christ fearing to loose their worldly Interest among the Quakers page 30. What is now the Matter Is he not angry with some of his Hearers because they are not so malicious and reviling against the Quakers as himself or is it because they abate in their Gifts and Rewards towards W. H Had not the People of Hartford more need to caution him to take heed of dishonouring the Name of Christ and the Gospel and wearying his hearers by reviling and railing against the Quakers and by too much coveting after Money and Lucre Gifts and Rewards as the Support of his Warfare to the making his preaching chargeable as well as burdensom which it is to be hoped in time many of his Hearers will be weary of and of his confused Railing and scurrilous Books against the People called Quakers Hartford the 10th Moneth 1676. Mary Stout's Reply TO VVilliam Haworth's Answer William Haworth I Did not expect an Answer from thee knowing there was nothing in what was written to thee that thou couldst justly have opposed the truth of which doth and will stand over thee turn it off which way thou wilt Thou sayest That which was true Tenderness in avoiding what was really evil was still maintained in thee but childish Scruplosi●y and that Bondage-spirit which thou hast been in and which the Quakers remain in is removed from thee through a more Gospel-knowledge given to thee Answ What dost thou call really evil and what is not All Unrighteousness is Sin and he that breaks the least Command is guilty of all That Spirit of Bondage thou else-where termest Obedience to the Law Doth the Gospel allow what the Law forbids as to Holiness and Strictness of Life or was that therein to be scrupled under the Law which was not under the Gospel Was there not as much Morality under the Gospel as under the Law And if that which was spoken by Moses was strict when he said Thou shalt not kill Christ spake stricter when he said Love your Enemies do good to them that hate you you must not so much as hate them and much more he spake in the 5th of Matth●w to that purpose where he saith also He came not to destroy the Law but to fulfil it Thou wilt say That was in his Person I say Yes and in his People too the Apostle Paul did not leap over the Law when he spake of his Liberty in the Gospel but thus he saith I through the Law am dead to the Law that I may live unto God Gal. 2. 19. Thou sayest The way to be little in our own Eyes is to have a sense that by Nature we are Sinners Enemies to God Children of Wrath. Thou askest also Which is like to be least ●n ●is own Eyes he that seeth he hath nothing to justifie him but what is without which God by a free Gift imputeth to him or he that thinketh there i● enough within from the Birth if it be obeye● which he hath Will and Power to do Answ What is it which gives that sense Can any thing make manifest Darkness the Deeds thereof but Light For whatsoever is reproved is made manifest by the Light which is of Christ Ephes 5. 13 14. And we say as the Apostle John did We know that he was manifested to take away Sin and to destroy the Devil and his Works 1 John 3. 5 8. And the same Power that worketh this Effect bringeth in Everlasting Righteousness Dan. 9. 24. which relates to the former and if brought in then not wholely without Thou wilt say That is by Faith I say so too but the true Faith gives Victory over the World purifies the Heart keeps it clean and is held in a pure Conscience is so far from lifting up as thou supposest that it brings down not only Words and Actions but every high Thought into Captivity to the Obedience of Christ 2. Cor. 10. 5. and this is not done by our Will or Power but it is God that worketh in us both to will and to do Phil. 2. 17. Thou sayest Christ's Person is the Truth and thou art still against the Errors of the Quakers who are certainly against the Person of Christ and set up another a quality that is in every Robber and yet it will not teath many things necessary to be known Answ And is not his Spirit the Spirit of Truth which he promised he would send which should guide into all Truth John 16. 13. And how canst thou say We are against Christ when we say We own no other but he which spake those words Dost thou call that a Denying of him to believe his Promises and wait for the fulfilling thereof which is to be led by his Spirit into all Truth Though thou sayest The Light will not teach many things yet we believe it will all for it is a measure of the same Spirit and not another that he said should convince the World of Sin in order thereunto and if a spiritual Light then not a natural And it is no Error to say That Thiev●s are enlightned thereby for it sheweth them their Wickedness and condemneth them for it and it was that which shewed the Thief on the Cross that they received the due Reward of their Deeds but Christ had done nothing amiss Thou sayest There may be Honesty where no Godliness and thou shouldst be glad if the Quakers were as sound in their Judgments as moral in their Lives though of late they have much declined from Morality Answ I ●ay it i● a good sign their Judgments are sound and that the Tree is good where good Fruits are brought forth but thy word they maketh

it a general Charge which is fal●e But thou sayest How honest soever they be in their Callings thou knowest there are Errors of a deep die amongst them Answ I say it is easie to prove a bad Conversation to be a Fruit of Error but it is hard to prove a good one to be so and it is not thy calling our Principles Error that doth prove them so to be I have often heard thee call them so both by Word and Writing but I never heard thee prove it by either Scripture indeed thou mentionest many to that end but so i●pertinent to the Business that there needs no other to prove thy self to be in Error and we to be in the Truth Thou sayest The Scriptures do no where call the Light that every man hath the Light of the Son of God and I may as properly call the Sun in ths Firmament so Answ The Scriptures are plentiful in this Case but that of John 1. vers 4 9. is enough In him was Life and the Life was the Light of Men and that was the True Light that lighteth every man that cometh into the World I know thy answer will be That was meant of the Person of Christ which was to be believed in But I ask thee What Possibility was there then or is there now of knowing him to be the true Christ that should come and which was to be believed in without a measure of his spiritual Light to reveal him seeing that Flesh and Blood cannot real him and he that seeth him seeth the Father also But we know it to be the Light of Christ by the Effects thereof the Works that he doth bear Testimony of him thy own words also will witness against thee i● this in pag. 109. of thy Book where thou grantest There is a Spark remaining in fallen man of that Light which Adam had in a full Flame before Transgression and also that it will teach some Truths and some divine things that there is a God and he is to be worship● and this the Sun in the Firmament could never do Thou also sayest Thou hast this Light and walkest not contrary to it but it is not thy Guide nor Rule but the Spirit leads thee to the Scriptures as thy Rule and there thou hast seen higher things then the Light could discover to thee and so bids me take heed I have not rebelled against the Knowledge I once had from the Scriptures Answ Dost thou here speak like a Minister of Christ t●at had received hi● Spirit Did the Spirit in Paul lead him to the Scriptures as his only Rule and Guide after he knew the Son of God revealed in him then His Spirit was his Rule and Instructer as he saith Ephesians Chap. 4. Vers 12. every where and in every thing and opened his Understanding to know the true Meaning of what the holy Men before him had writ and spoke which before he knew not notwithstanding all his Knowledge from the Scriptures and the Prophets and true Ministers of Christ in all Ages did point to the Spirit as the Rule and not to their Words for those high things which they saw could not be seen but by the same Spirit in which they saw them Thou sayest Thou considerest thy self to be in Christ and that thou art doing that which he would have thee do for him in thy Generation and thou art fighting for Jesus of Nazareth against the Quakers Christ Answ To be in Christ is a high State and it were well for thee if thou knewest what thou sayest but if thou didst truly know Jesus of Nazareth and wert in him thou couldst not fight against the Quake●s Christ for he is the same and not anot●er and he never employed thee to fight against his Spiritual A●pearance in his People thou hadst better lay down thy Weap●ns and submit to him for he will be too strong for thee and a Woful Reward for thy Work wilt thou receive at his Hands if thou Repent not Thou sayest Tho● art b●und to do thy Duty and leave thy Work with Christ and though thou mayest apprehend our Kingdom w●ll prosper yet thou art not discouraged but believest we are in Error st●ll and though none of you can yet Christ can and will in time still the Ragi●g of the Sea and divide and dry up these Waters and though w● soar as high as the Clouds in vain Boasting yet th●u canst m●u●t a●ov● us in the Spirit of Faith and Confidence Answ Vain Boasting we deny but none shall hinder our Glorying in the Lord b●t the Day will declare and the Fire will try every man's Work of what sort it is and the Righteous Judge will determine unto whose Judgment alone we desire to stand But what Spirit is it that hath lifted thee up so high seeing thou denyest and opposest the spiritual Light of Christ which is the Door of Entrance to all that find Pasture And the same that said I am the Light said also I am the Door of the Sheep fold John 10. 9. and all that climb up another Way are Thieves and Robbers and so although thou art climbed never so high yet down again must thou come to this else the higher thou mountest the greater will be thy Fall Thou sayest thou believest and therefore speak●st infinitely stronger is he that is with you then he that is against you Ans If he that you think is with you be in you as Christ said he would be in his People John 14. 17. by whom they overcame because greater was he that was in them then he that was in the World then you need not fear but he will overcome for you but there is cause to question it when as thou dost not adventure to say so and thy Words afterwards do import that thou dost hardly believe he is to be so known else what dost thou mean when in answer to my witnessing to Christ's being in his People to lead and save them thou say'st Why not Emanuel as well God with us as in us Ans His being in us denies not his being with us as he is known in us he is with us but what is it that renders us so Erroneous and such who by the Consequence of thy words thou accountest God's Enemies whom he will drive back and divide as the Sea and still the Raging thereof Ans The Saints who writ the Scriptures tell us it was Sin while they were in it and wicked Works that made them Enemies of God and it was those who remained in Sin that did oppose them when they departed from it which the Lord overcame both within and without them But thou sayest Thou never expects to be free from Sin whilest in this Tabernacle and that there is none of Christ's Righteousness at all in your Minds but in his own Person then that Hope is vain and will perish which expects to see Christ conquer his Enemies to thy Comfort when thou dost not know him in thee so