Selected quad for the lemma: truth_n
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The Catholike scriptvrist, or, The plea of the Roman Catholikes shewing the Scriptures to hold forth the Roman faith in above forty of the chiefe controversies now under debate ... / by I.M.
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Mumford, J. (James), 1606-1666.
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for_o then_o in_o heaven_n this_o sentence_n will_v never_o be_v ratify_v and_o tell_v i_o not_o that_o this_o text_n speak_v of_o private_a difference_n between_o brother_n and_o brother_n though_o i_o deny_v not_o but_o this_o be_v also_o true_a in_o such_o difference_n as_o belong_v to_o the_o court_n or_o tribunal_n of_o the_o church_n yet_o hence_o evident_o follow_v that_o this_o text_n do_v much_o more_o concern_v those_o difference_n in_o point_n of_o religion_n between_o brother_n and_o brother_n both_o because_o these_o do_v more_o proper_o belong_v to_o the_o court_n of_o the_o church_n and_o to_o her_o tribunal_n as_o also_o because_o when_o scandal_n and_o offence_n be_v give_v to_o our_o brother_n in_o point_n of_o heresy_n tend_v to_o the_o seduction_n of_o his_o soul_n our_o brother_n see_v this_o soule-murthering_a sin_n broach_v to_o his_o own_o ruin_n and_o to_o the_o eternal_a ruin_n of_o his_o brother_n have_v far_o great_a reason_n in_o this_o case_n they_o in_o any_o other_o to_o tell_v the_o church_n his_o mother_n to_o who_o in_o this_o difference_n above_o all_o other_o difference_n it_o proper_o belong_v to_o look_v to_o the_o safety_n of_o her_o childred_a for_o this_o be_v a_o offence_n and_o scandal_n to_o the_o whole_a brotherhood_n of_o all_o christianity_n therefore_o in_o these_o point_n of_o high_a concernment_n we_o be_v most_o bind_v to_o hear_v the_o church_n under_o pain_n of_o be_v account_v publican_n and_o heathen_n and_o of_o have_v this_o heavy_a sentence_n ratify_v in_o heaven_n 5._o six_o matt._n 23.1_o then_o jesus_n speak_v to_o the_o multitude_n and_o to_o his_o disciple_n say_v upon_o the_o chair_n of_o moses_n have_v sit_v the_o scribe_n and_o pharise_n by_o which_o sit_v with_o lawful_a succession_n they_o as_o wicked_a as_o they_o be_v be_v know_v to_o be_v lawful_o authorize_v prelate_n all_o therefore_o whatsoever_o they_o shall_v say_v unto_o you_o observe_v and_o do_v behold_v here_o a_o precept_n of_o obey_v in_o all_o whatsoever_o and_o therefore_o behold_v a_o precept_n which_o can_v not_o be_v give_v if_o that_o which_o be_v deliver_v by_o public_a authority_n of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o secure_v from_o error_n in_o all_o whatsoever_o 6._o sevent_o the_o first_o and_o best_a christian_n do_v practical_o acknowledge_v their_o belief_n of_o the_o infallibility_n of_o the_o church_n for_o to_o have_v a_o decision_n of_o the_o most_o important_a controversy_n act._n 15.2_o they_o appoint_v paul_n and_o barnabas_n to_o go_v up_o and_o certain_a other_o of_o the_o rest_n to_o the_o apostle_n and_o priest_n unto_o jerusalem_n upon_o this_o question_n and_o the_o church_n assemble_v the_o first_o council_n in_o which_o though_o this_o council_n be_v assist_v with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n yet_o there_o be_v make_v a_o great_a disputation_n v._o 7._o and_o then_o the_o definition_n of_o the_o church_n come_v forth_o in_o these_o word_n it_o seem_v good_a to_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o we_o v._o 28._o other_o lawful_a council_n know_v the_o holy_a ghost_n also_o promise_v to_o they_o do_v use_v to_o set_v forth_o their_o definition_n with_o the_o same_o word_n and_o this_o most_o agreeable_a to_o scripture_n for_o john_n 15._o v._o 26._o when_o the_o paraclete_n come_v who_o i_o shall_v send_v from_o my_o father_n the_o spirit_n of_o truth_n he_o shall_v give_v testimony_n of_o i_o and_o you_o shall_v give_v testimony_n mark_v this_o conjunction_n of_o he_o and_o you_o he_o the_o the_o spirit_n of_o truth_n and_o you_o governor_n of_o my_o church_n so_o that_o you_o in_o give_v testimony_n may_v free_o say_v it_o seem_v good_a to_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o we_o 7._o eight_o it_o be_v clear_a out_o of_o scripture_n that_o the_o first_o christian_n be_v so_o full_o possess_v with_o the_o belief_n of_o the_o infallibility_n of_o the_o church_n that_o they_o will_v believe_v nothing_o but_o what_o thy_o know_v conformable_a to_o her_o doctrine_n s._n paul_n be_v a_o scripture-writer_n and_o so_o great_a a_o apostle_n and_o yet_o he_o say_v of_o himself_o gal._n 2.1_o then_o after_o fourteen_o year_n i_o go_v to_o jerusalem_n again_o not_o mere_o to_o satisfy_v a_o vain_a fancy_n of_o some_o particular_a man_n but_o i_o go_v up_o according_a to_o revelation_n and_o confer_v with_o they_o the_o gospel_n which_o i_o preach_v among_o the_o gentill_n but_o i_o confer_v several_o or_o a_o part_n with_o they_o that_o seem_v to_o be_v something_o lest_o perhaps_o i_o shall_v run_v or_o have_v run_v in_o vain_a so_o that_o he_o think_v all_o his_o fourteen_o year_n preach_v and_o also_o his_o future_a preach_n may_v come_v to_o be_v in_o vain_a unless_o even_o his_o doctrine_n be_v make_v know_v to_o be_v approve_v by_o the_o church_n as_o whole_o conformable_a to_o the_o church_n so_o much_o in_o these_o golden_a day_n be_v the_o first_o christian_n teach_v to_o rely_v upon_o the_o church_n which_o have_v be_v imprudence_n if_o she_o have_v be_v fallible_a yet_o we_o must_v not_o think_v that_o then_o they_o do_v apprehend_v that_o the_o approbation_n of_o the_o church_n do_v add_v any_o degree_n of_o truth_n to_o his_o doctrine_n as_o it_o do_v not_o add_v any_o degree_n of_o truth_n to_o the_o scripture_n or_o pretend_v to_o have_v power_n to_o change_v or_o correct_v true_a scripture_n and_o so_o s._n paul_n say_v v._o 6._o for_o to_o i_o they_o that_o seem_v to_o be_v some_o thing_n add_v nothing_o for_o as_o the_o toutchstone_n add_v no_o value_n to_o the_o gold_n but_o only_o evident_o manife_v which_o be_v true_a gold_n which_o not_o so_o the_o church_n as_o then_o do_v only_o manifest_v infallible_o the_o truth_n of_o what_o he_o have_v preach_v so_o also_o the_o church_n as_o now_o do_v only_o manifest_a to_o we_o that_o such_o and_o such_o book_n be_v the_o true_a word_n of_o god_n such_o and_o such_o be_v not_o such_o be_v true_a copy_n such_o not_o &c._n &c._n but_o the_o word_n of_o god_n have_v its_o true_a worth_n from_o itself_o and_o not_o from_o the_o church_n as_o the_o gold_n have_v its_o be_v true_a gold_n from_o itself_o and_o not_o from_o the_o toutchstone_n so_o when_o catholic_n say_v with_o s._n aug._n cont._n epist_n fundam_fw-la c._n 5._o i_o will_v not_o believe_v the_o gospel_n unless_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n move_v i_o they_o do_v not_o mean_v that_o the_o church_n can_v add_v or_o take_v away_o from_o the_o truth_n of_o any_o true_a scripture_n but_o they_o mean_v that_o by_o her_o definition_n as_o by_o a_o sure_a touchstone_n it_o be_v now_o manifest_o assure_v unto_o they_o that_o such_o a_o book_n be_v true_a scripture_n and_o such_o not_o and_o as_o the_o oral_a preach_n even_o of_o such_o a_o apostle_n as_o have_v be_v a_o scripture_n writer_n may_v have_v be_v in_o vain_a without_o this_o approbation_n so_o also_o may_v his_o writing_n have_v be_v in_o vain_a whence_o we_o see_v that_o his_o epistle_n unto_o the_o hebrew_n be_v not_o know_v or_o acknowledge_v as_o god_n word_n until_o the_o church_n approve_v it_o if_o the_o scripture_n writer_n himself_o teach_v in_o vain_a without_o this_o approbation_n much_o more_o will_v his_o writing_n teach_v in_o vain_a 8_o nine_o the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v follow_v by_o we_o as_o a_o assure_a approver_n or_o reprover_n of_o spirit_n and_o consequent_o as_o infallible_a john_n 1.4_o my_o dear_a believe_v not_o every_o spirit_n but_o prove_v the_o spirit_n if_o they_o be_v of_o god_n then_o v._n 6._o we_o be_v of_o god_n he_o that_o know_v god_n hear_v we_o pastor_n of_o church_n he_o that_o be_v not_o of_o god_n hear_v we_o not_o in_o this_o we_o know_v the_o spirit_n of_o truth_n and_o the_o spirit_n of_o error_n here_o s._n john_n express_o mean_v to_o give_v to_o posterity_n a_o stand_a rule_n to_o know_v a_o true_a spirit_n from_o a_o false_a one_o to_o wit_n by_o the_o hear_n of_o we_o or_o not_o hear_v of_o we_o this_o can_v not_o be_v a_o rule_n to_o we_o who_o live_v after_o the_o apostle_n if_o by_o hear_v we_o he_o only_o mean_v the_o apostle_n and_o not_o their_o successor_n yea_o he_o can_v not_o mean_v only_o the_o apostle_n for_o the_o other_o apostle_n be_v all_o dead_a when_o he_o write_v this_o wherefore_o the_o true_a sense_n of_o s._n john_n be_v in_o this_o we_o know_v the_o spirit_n of_o truth_n and_o the_o spirit_n of_o error_n if_o they_o hear_v we_o pastor_n and_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n not_o that_o each_o one_o of_o these_o pastor_n and_o governor_n a_o part_n can_v say_v to_o any_o one_o hear_v i_o unless_o he_o teach_v that_o which_o all_o the_o rest_n be_v sufficient_o know_v to_o teach_v but_o they_o in_o a_o general_n council_n may_v most_o true_o say_v hear_v we_o he_o
well_o how_o much_o this_o great_a humility_n of_o his_o have_v advance_v he_o yet_o high_o 8._o their_o second_o objection_n be_v that_o of_o s._n paul_n col._n 2.18_o let_v no_o man_n beguile_v you_o in_o worship_v of_o angel_n to_o answer_v this_o objection_n note_v that_o the_o former_a passage_n of_o s_o john_n happen_v to_o he_o when_o he_o be_v in_o banishment_n in_o the_o island_n call_v patmos_n apoc_fw-la 1._o whence_o it_o be_v manifest_v that_o s._n john_n in_o his_o apocalypse_n now_o cite_v use_v both_o these_o two_o several_a adoration_n twice_o worship_v the_o angel_n long_o after_o s._n paul_n have_v write_v these_o word_n forbid_v the_o worship_n of_o angel_n which_o word_n s_n john_n understand_v either_o much_o better_o or_o at_o lest_o full_a as_o well_o as_o our_o protestant_n understand_v they_o and_o therefore_o he_o know_v very_o well_o that_o in_o adore_v or_o worship_v the_o angel_n two_o several_a time_n he_o in_o neither_o of_o these_o time_n be_v seduce_v in_o the_o worship_n of_o angel_n we_o therefore_o may_v adore_v angel_n a_o s_n john_n do_v and_o yet_o not_o be_v beguile_v in_o this_o worship_n of_o angel_n as_o s._n john_n be_v not_o those_o than_o be_v rather_o seduce_v by_o wilful_a mistake_n of_o what_o this_o worship_n of_o angel_n be_v who_o to_o make_v we_o guilty_a of_o it_o define_v it_o to_o be_v such_o a_o worship_n as_o must_v make_v s._n john_n as_o guilty_a as_o they_o will_v make_v we_o therefore_o this_o text_n be_v fond_o allege_v against_o we_o for_o hold_v only_o and_o maintain_v such_o worship_n of_o angel_n as_o s_n john_n use_v twice_o and_o that_o long_o after_o he_o know_v what_o s._n paul_n have_v write_v this_o then_o serve_v our_o turn_n that_o in_o what_o sense_n soever_o s._n paul_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v he_o can_v be_v understand_v in_o a_o sense_n forbid_v any_o thing_n contrary_a to_o that_o which_o s._n john_n do_v and_o which_o we_o with_o he_o do_v practice_v the_o truth_n be_v s._n paul_n speak_v only_o of_o such_o religious_a worship_n of_o angel_n as_o have_v be_v teach_v among_o the_o jew_n by_o simon_n magus_n who_o will_v have_v sacrifice_n offer_v to_o all_o angel_n as_o well_o evil_a as_o good_a epiph._n heresi_fw-la 25._o chrysostom_n hom._n 7._o in_o hunc_fw-la locum_fw-la and_o this_o be_v that_o which_o be_v condemn_v in_o the_o council_n of_o loadicia_n c._n 35._o 9_o there_o be_v another_o very_a pertinent_a exposition_n of_o this_o text_n in_o tertul._n l._n 5._o contra_fw-la marcionem_fw-la that_o be_v that_o the_o apostle_n labour_v in_o that_o place_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o new_a christian_n shall_v not_o keep_v the_o old_a judaical_a law_n and_o for_o this_o end_n he_o say_v let_v no_o man_n beguile_v you_o in_o the_o worship_n of_o angel_n by_o say_v that_o we_o owe_v so_o much_o respect_n to_o the_o angel_n that_o although_o christ_n have_v abolish_v the_o old_a law_n yet_o because_o that_o old_a law_n be_v give_v they_o by_o the_o ministry_n of_o angel_n act._n 7.53_o it_o ought_v still_o to_o be_v keep_v out_o of_o respect_n to_o the_o angel_n by_o who_o ministry_n it_o be_v give_v again_o some_o then_o teach_v that_o this_o as_o a_o heavenly_a verity_n have_v be_v reveal_v by_o some_o of_o the_o angel_n but_o the_o angel_n revealer_n of_o such_o doctrine_n be_v angel_n of_o darkness_n s._n paul_n call_v the_o judaical_a observation_n of_o meat_n maintain_v by_o these_o christian_n out_o of_o this_o principle_n the_o doctrine_n of_o devil_n 1._o tim._n 4.1_o such_o also_o be_v the_o worship_n of_o angel_n give_v they_o by_o such_o observance_n and_o it_o be_v to_o be_v note_v that_o immediate_o before_o these_o word_n he_o express_o spook_v against_o the_o judaical_a observation_n of_o meat_n say_v let_v no_o man_n judge_v you_o in_o meat_n v._o 16._o of_o which_o text_n see_v more_o point_n 45_o n._n 5._o 6._o the_o xxxvii_o point_n the_o angel_n and_o saint_n can_v hear_v our_o prayer_n 1._o protestant's_n undertake_n to_o reform_v all_o our_o pretend_a error_n out_o of_o scripture_n can_v with_o no_o ground_n pretend_v to_o reform_v our_o error_n in_o believe_a saint_n to_o hear_v we_o unless_o they_o can_v show_v some_o clear_a text_n to_o prove_v that_o saint_n can_v hear_v we_o it_o be_v enough_o for_o we_o to_o go_v on_o still_o believe_v what_o we_o ever_o believe_v unless_o they_o can_v show_v we_o scripture_n to_o the_o contrary_n they_o produce_v but_o one_o poor_a text_n fall_v far_o short_a of_o any_o clear_a proof_n it_o be_v isa_n 63._o v._n 16._o thou_o be_v our_o father_n though_o abraham_n be_v ignorant_a of_o we_o and_o israël_n acknowledge_v we_o not_o thou_o o_o lord_n be_v our_o father_n our_o redeemer_n i_o answer_v that_o the_o jew_n consider_v how_o enormious_o they_o have_v continual_o swarve_v from_o the_o life_n example_n and_o instruction_n of_o abraham_n and_o jacob_n do_v with_o great_a reason_n fear_v that_o they_o will_v not_o look_v upon_o they_o as_o their_o child_n as_o that_o word_n acknowledge_v do_v express_v wherefore_o know_v god_n mercy_n to_o be_v infinite_o great_a then_o that_o of_o the_o great_a saint_n they_o hope_v that_o he_o still_o will_v look_v upon_o they_o they_o do_v not_o say_v abraham_n and_o jacob_n know_v not_o their_o state_n or_o condition_n but_o they_o conceive_v that_o they_o for_o their_o sin_n well_o know_v to_o they_o have_v all_o reason_n not_o to_o own_v they_o as_o child_n and_o to_o say_v we_o know_v you_o not_o as_o christ_n shall_v say_v one_o day_n to_o the_o reprobate_n 2._o again_o though_o we_o shall_v grant_v that_o abraham_n and_o jacob_n do_v not_o know_v the_o state_n of_o the_o jew_n then_o when_o abraham_n and_o jacob_n be_v still_o in_o limbo_n patrum_fw-la it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o the_o saint_n now_o present_a with_o god_n enlighten_v with_o the_o light_n of_o beatifical_a glory_n can_v by_o virtue_n of_o that_o light_n know_v all_o that_o pass_v on_o earth_n as_o far_o at_o least_o as_o any_o thing_n make_v to_o their_o felicity_n for_o it_o be_v a_o part_n of_o happiness_n to_o know_v how_o thing_n pass_v with_o our_o dear_o belove_a friend_n especial_o when_o we_o be_v in_o a_o condition_n to_o help_v they_o easy_o as_o the_o saint_n be_v yet_o be_v also_o false_a that_o abraham_n even_o in_o limbo_n know_v not_o what_o pass_v among_o the_o jew_n after_o his_o death_n for_o he_o can_v tell_v dives_n that_o his_o five_o brethren_n have_v moses_n and_o the_o prophet_n luke_n 16._o v._o 28._o though_o moses_n and_o the_o prophet_n live_v long_o after_o his_o death_n see_v n._n 4._o 3._o as_o our_o adversary_n have_v but_o this_o one_o poor_a proof_n out_o of_o scripture_n against_o we_o so_o we_o have_v many_o for_o we_o jacob_n call_v upon_o a_o angel_n to_o bless_v his_o child_n no_o man_n will_v call_v upon_o one_o who_o can_v not_o hear_v the_o text_n be_v gen._n 48_o v._n 16._o i_o shall_v speak_v large_o of_o it_o in_o the_o next_o point_n n._n 2._o again_o 1._o sam._n 28._o the_o witch_n who_o saul_n consult_v call_v by_o her_o charm_n upon_o the_o devil_n instant_o be_v hear_v by_o he_o for_o present_o she_o do_v that_o which_o without_o help_n of_o some_o ill_a spirit_n can_v not_o be_v do_v shall_v devell_n hear_v witch_n present_o and_o shall_v saint_n want_v power_n to_o hear_v their_o suppliant_n see_v what_o i_o here_o say_v n._n 7._o raphel_n one_o of_o the_o seven_o which_o assist_v before_o our_o lord_n tob._n 12.15_o although_o he_o be_v there_o assist_v yet_o he_o true_o tell_v toby_n v._o 12._o when_o thou_o do_v pray_v with_o tear_n and_o do_v bury_v the_o dead_a by_o night_n i_o offer_v thy_o prayer_n to_o our_o lord_n if_o this_o be_v not_o canonical_a scripture_n yet_o at_o lest_o it_o be_v a_o most_o ancient_a ecclesiastical_a history_n and_o of_o such_o credit_n that_o ss_z cyprian_a ambr._n austin_n hierom_n gregory_n the_o 3._o council_n of_o carthage_n and_o many_o more_o hold_v it_o scripture_n and_o consequent_o they_o think_v it_o as_o true_a as_o scripture_n that_o saint_n can_v hear_v our_o prayer_n and_o you_o must_v bring_v something_o more_o than_o your_o own_o imagination_n to_o discredit_v it_o on_o this_o account_n eliphaz_n in_o job_n c._n 5.1_o speak_v thus_o to_o he_o call_v now_o if_o there_o be_v any_o that_o will_v answer_v thou_o and_o to_o which_o of_o the_o saint_n will_v thou_o turn_v this_o show_v the_o common_a practice_n of_o invocate_a angel_n in_o that_o time_n for_o as_o then_o no_o saint_n but_o angel_n be_v in_o heaven_n whence_o the_o septuagint_n who_o you_o use_v to_o extol_v do_v here_o interpret_v the_o saint_n to_o be_v the_o holy_a angel_n david_n suppose_v the_o angel_n to_o hear_v he_o