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the_o chu_n so_o that_o by_o this_o place_n &_o all_o other_o place_n of_o the_o eclesi_n hist_o where_o like_a mention_n be_v make_v of_o the_o child_n of_o christian_n first_o catechize_v &_o then_o baptize_v it_o may_v easy_o be_v discern_v that_o baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v not_o yet_o universal_o receive_v but_o by_o little_a &_o little_o prevail_v as_o other_o antich_n heresy_n have_v do_v in_o respect_n whereof_o origen_n august_n cyprian_a &_o all_o the_o papist_n with_o one_o consent_n acknowledge_v it_o a_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n and_o thus_o much_o for_o the_o testimony_n of_o antiquity_n which_o hereafter_o shall_v be_v produce_v more_o plentiful_o upon_o further_a occasion_n offer_v if_o the_o separation_n or_o any_o other_o dare_v adventure_v the_o trial_n of_o the_o matter_n out_o of_o antiquity_n but_o there_o be_v one_o &_o indeed_o but_o one_o argument_n which_o the_o separation_n principaly_fw-fr stand_v upon_o &_o that_o be_v the_o covenant_n which_o say_v 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roman_n 15_o 4â—_n 2._o timoth._n 3.16_o 2._o pet._n 1.19_o yet_o nevertheless_o we_o affirm_v all_o the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n viz_n the_o church_n ministry_n worship_n &_o government_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n to_o be_v abolish_v all_o which_o be_v type_n &_o shadow_n of_o god_n thing_n to_o come_v but_o the_o body_n be_v in_o christ_n col._n 2.14.17.20_o second_o we_o acknowledge_v that_o according_a to_o the_o precedent_n of_o ch._n disciple_n &_o the_o primitive_a church_n the_o saint_n ought_v upon_o the_o first_o day_n of_o the_o week_n which_o be_v call_v the_o lord_n day_n revel_v 1.10_o to_o assemble_v together_o to_o pray_v prophecy_n praise_n god_n &_o break_v bread_n and_o perform_v other_o part_n of_o spiritual_a communion_n for_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n there_o own_o mutual_a edification_n &_o the_o preservation_n of_o true_a religion_n &_o piety_n in_o the_o church_n &_o that_o we_o may_v be_v better_o enable_v to_o the_o foresaid_a duty_n 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2_o 13-15_a 2._o pet._n 2.10_o jud._n we_o 8._o but_o of_o magistrate_n convert_v to_o the_o faith_n &_o admit_v into_o the_o chu_n by_o baptism_n there_o may_v many_o question_n be_v make_v which_o to_o answer_v 〈…〉_o can_v 〈◊〉_d if_o we_o will_v when_o such_o thing_n fall_v out_o the_o l._n we_o doubt_v not_o will_v direct_v we_o into_o the_o truth_n concern_v that_o matter_n in_o the_o mean_a time_n we_o be_v assure_v according_a to_o the_o scrip._n that_o the_o king_n of_o the_o earth_n shall_v at_o the_o length_n bring_v their_o glory_n &_o honour_n to_o the_o visible_a church_n revel_v 21_o 24._o final_o concern_v the_o flesh_n of_o chr._n we_o do_v believe_v that_o chr_n be_v the_o seed_n of_o abraâ—_n isaac_n &_o jacob_n &_o of_o david_n according_a to_o the_o prophecy_n of_o the_o scripture_n &_o that_o he_o be_v the_o son_n of_o mary_n his_o mother_n make_v of_o her_o substance_n the_o holy_a ghost_n over_o shadow_v she_o so_o have_v other_o child_n there_o bodily_a substance_n from_o their_o parent_n also_o that_o chr._n be_v one_o person_n in_o two_o distinct_a nature_n the_o godhead_n &_o manhood_n &_o we_o detestg_v the_o contrary_a error_n our_o ground_n of_o scripture_n be_v these_o gen._n 22.18_o &_o 26.4_o &_o 28.14_o psal_n 13.2.11_o compare_v with_o act._n 2.30_o rom._n 1.3.4_o heb._n 1.8_o 10._o &_o 2.11.14.16_o brief_o to_o conclude_v let_v the_o separation_n be_v advertise_v that_o whereas_o they_o do_v so_o confident_o through_o their self_o love_n &_o self_n conceit_n fill_v their_o mouth_n with_o heresy_n &_o heretic_n as_o if_o thereby_o they_o will_v fear_v babe_n that_o herein_o they_o tread_v in_o the_o step_n of_o all_o the_o antichristian_o their_o predecessor_n do_v not_o the_o papist_n call_v the_o protestant_n heretic_n &_o call_v for_o fire_n &_o faggot_n do_v not_o the_o protestant_n proclaim_v the_o separation_n schismatic_n
&_o at_o my_o 〈◊〉_d &_o at_o the_o who_o earth_n that_o we_o shall_v not_o see_v so_o evident_a a_o truth_n all_o this_o tyme._n the_o second_o particular_a you_o bring_v in_o answer_n to_o my_o reason_n be_v a_o distinction_n of_o the_o respect_n of_o the_o seed_n of_o the_o faithful_a for_o you_o say_v as_o they_o be_v bear_v of_o their_o parent_n they_o be_v carnal_a &_o sinful_a psal_n 51.5_o as_o they_o be_v under_o the_o covenant_n they_o be_v spiritual_a gen._n 17.7_o &_o be_v call_v holy_a 1_o cor._n 7.14_o &_o so_o be_v not_o the_o carnal_a seed_n &_o so_o they_o may_v be_v baptize_v aswell_o as_o the_o jew_n infant_n be_v circumcise_v though_o some_o of_o they_o prove_v wicked_a afterward_o as_o ishmael_n &_o esaw_n etc._n etc._n i_o answer_v first_o your_o distinction_n be_v without_o warrant_n of_o scripture_n &_o i_o deny_v that_o infant_n of_o the_o faithful_a be_v to_o be_v consider_v in_o these_o two_o respect_n &_o whereas_o you_o bring_v two_o place_n gen._n 17.7_o &_o 1_o cor._n 7.14_o to_o prove_v the_o latter_a part_n of_o the_o distinction_n i_o have_v answer_v these_o two_o place_n already_o show_v your_o false_a exposition_n of_o they_o &_o that_o the_o infant_n of_o abraham_n be_v not_o in_o their_o birth_n under_o the_o actual_a possession_n of_o the_o everlasting_a covenant_n make_v in_o respect_n of_o chr._n but_o only_o under_o the_o offer_n of_o it_o &_o that_o the_o infant_n &_o all_o the_o child_n of_o the_o faithful_a be_v holy_a only_o as_o the_o wife_n that_o be_v a_o unbeliever_n be_v holy_a &_o so_o this_o exception_n of_o you_o be_v frivolous_a the_o three_o particular_a you_o bring_v in_o answer_n to_o my_o reason_n be_v that_o it_o be_v not_o simple_o a_o profane_v of_o the_o covenant_n to_o administer_v the_o seal_n of_o it_o to_o they_o to_o who_o it_o belong_v not_o as_o to_o simon_n magus_n act._n 8.13_o but_o it_o be_v then_o profane_v when_o it_o be_v administer_v to_o they_o that_o be_v wicked_a &c_n &c_n i_o answer_v the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n be_v profane_v when_o it_o be_v administer_v upon_o a_o wrong_a subject_n whatsoever_o it_o be_v as_o to_o give_v the_o lord_n supper_n to_o a_o infant_n of_o two_o year_n old_a so_o to_o baptise_v a_o infant_n be_v a_o profanation_n for_o as_o profession_n &_o confession_n of_o faith_n shall_v entitle_v any_o man_n to_o all_o the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o chur._n &_o first_o to_o baptism_n so_o absence_n of_o confession_n of_o faith_n shall_v debar_v every_o one_o from_o all_o the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o church_n in_o communion_n &_o although_o i_o will_v not_o say_v that_o child_n be_v damn_v yet_o i_o dare_v say_v that_o they_o be_v bear_v &_o dead_a in_o trespass_n &_o sin_n &_o that_o they_o do_v not_o nor_o can_v show_v any_o spark_n of_o grace_n to_o i_o &_o therefore_o although_o i_o dare_v not_o say_v this_o or_o that_o infant_n be_v not_o under_o the_o election_n of_o god_n yet_o i_o dare_v say_v that_o never_o a_o infant_n in_o the_o earth_n be_v actual_o seize_v of_o the_o new_a testament_n which_o be_v only_o attain_v by_o confession_n of_o sin_n &_o faith_n for_o so_o say_v christ_n the_o time_n be_v fulfil_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n be_v at_o hand_n repent_v &_o believe_v the_o gospel_n marc._n 1.15_o &_o except_o a_o man_n be_v bear_v again_o he_o can_v see_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n john_n 3.3_o &_o christ_n dwell_v in_o our_o heart_n by_o faith_n eph._n 3.17_o &_o as_o i_o can_v deny_v but_o that_o many_o infant_n be_v elect_v yet_o i_o can_v say_v which_o infant_n shall_v believe_v &_o confess_v their_o sin_n &_o faith_n &_o so_o i_o know_v not_o upon_o which_o to_o administer_v baptism_n &_o i_o must_v be_v assure_v that_o they_o do_v believe_v before_o i_o can_v baptise_v they_o for_o whatsoever_o be_v not_o of_o faith_n be_v sin_n &_o to_o know_v nothing_o to_o the_o contrary_a but_o that_o they_o do_v beleâ—ve_n be_v not_o sufficient_a warrant_n for_o baptism_n yea_o &_o i_o do_v know_v certain_o that_o â—eing_v faith_n come_v by_o hear_v therefore_o they_o do_v not_o believe_v to_o i_o yea_o though_o they_o can_v here_o &_o do_v believe_v that_o be_v nothing_o to_o i_o except_o they_o can_v show_v i_o their_o faith_n by_o their_o confession_n i_o say_v therefore_o that_o all_o infant_n be_v carnal_a to_o i_o rom._n 9.8_o for_o the_o apost_n uâ—_n 5_o say_v plain_o that_o to_o be_v bear_v of_o abrah_n according_a to_o the_o flesh_n be_v not_o to_o be_v bear_v according_a to_o promise_n or_o to_o be_v as_o you_o say_v spiritual_a for_o your_o distinction_n before_o be_v that_o every_o infant_n of_o abrah_n &_o so_o of_o the_o faithful_a be_v bear_v spiritual_a as_o well_o as_o carnal_a but_o here_o the_o apostle_n say_v direct_o contrary_a to_o your_o assertion_n that_o they_o be_v not_o all_o child_n of_o the_o promise_n &_o covenant_n because_o they_o be_v the_o child_n that_o lineal_o descend_v of_o abrah_n &_o you_o say_v peremptory_o that_o all_o that_o lineal_o descend_v of_o 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carnal_a but_o i_o confess_v indeed_o that_o esaw_n can_v never_o be_v jacob_n &_o one_o so_o carnal_a can_v never_o be_v spiritual_a &_o whereas_o you_o say_v that_o carnal_a corruption_n do_v not_o hinder_v infant_n from_o baptism_n no_o more_o than_o man_n of_o year_n that_o make_v confession_n of_o their_o faith_n i_o answer_v yes_o for_o man_n of_o year_n confess_v their_o sin_n &_o their_o faith_n declare_v the_o mortification_n of_o sin_n &_o regeneration_n by_o the_o spirit_n infant_n be_v bear_v in_o sin_n can_v nor_o do_v not_o declare_v their_o regeneration_n at_o all_o to_o we_o &_o so_o with_o they_o we_o have_v nothing_o to_o do_v &_o whereas_o you_o say_v natural_a corruption_n be_v not_o impute_v to_o infant_n no_o more_o then_o to_o man_n believe_v let_v it_o be_v so_o &_o yet_o you_o can_v defend_v that_o without_o the_o opinion_n of_o universal_a redemption_n &_o then_o i_o say_v that_o if_o the_o infant_n of_o the_o faithful_a be_v deliver_v from_o their_o natural_a 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external_a seal_n of_o that_o external_a covenant_n be_v particular_o enjoin_v by_o god_n to_o every_o male_a &_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o reprobation_n of_o esaw_n &_o ishmael_n do_v not_o hinder_v that_o carnal_a seal_n nor_o disannul_v the_o precedent_n express_v commandment_n of_o circumcise_n every_o male_a of_o 8_o day_n old_a but_o now_o see_v we_o have_v no_o express_a commandment_n for_o baptise_v infant_n but_o a_o express_a commandment_n &_o many_o example_n to_o the_o contrary_a that_o only_a person_n make_v disciple_n by_o teach_v confess_v their_o faith_n &_o their_o sin_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v &_o consider_v that_o infant_n bear_v of_o faithful_a parent_n be_v the_o child_n
be_v forsake_v mat._n 7.15.2_o io._n 10._o gall_n 1.8_o &_o the_o true_a minister_n of_o god_n to_o be_v receive_v jer._n 3.14.15_o so_o do_v the_o faithful_a in_o israel_n forsake_v the_o false_a priest_n set_v up_o by_o jeroboam_n &_o return_v to_o the_o priest_n of_o the_o l_o to_z jerusalem_fw-la 2._o chro._n 30.11.3_o it_o be_v our_o duty_n likewise_o to_o renounce_v all_o false_a worship_n 2._o cor._n 6_o 14-17_a esa_n 30.22_o &_o to_o worship_v the_o l_o as_o he_o teach_v we_o in_o his_o word_n &_o thus_o far_o do_v i_o approve_v of_o this_o reason_n but_o the_o consequence_n i_o must_v deny_v viz_n that_o because_o false_a worship_n be_v to_o be_v renounce_v therefore_o baptism_n also_o for_o 1._o we_o be_v to_o consider_v in_o that_o baptism_n receive_v in_o apostate_n church_n two_o thing_n first_o that_o which_o be_v of_o god_n therein_o 2._o that_o which_o be_v of_o man_n that_o which_o be_v of_o god_n be_v the_o substance_n of_o baptism_n as_o before_o be_v observe_v viz_n the_o same_o matter_n &_o form_n that_o the_o l._n institute_v &_o likewise_o the_o same_o end_n which_o be_v the_o profession_n of_o the_o faith_n of_o christ_n &_o this_o be_v not_o false_a worship_n &_o so_o consequent_o not_o to_o be_v renounce_v again_o that_o which_o in_o the_o administration_n of_o baptism_n be_v devise_v by_o man_n be_v those_o unwarrantable_a ceremony_n of_o cross_v breathe_a anoint_v etc._n etc._n these_o be_v to_o be_v renounce_v as_o vain_a worship_n mat._n 15.4_o now_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n be_v to_o be_v purge_v from_o the_o pollution_n of_o man_n &_o not_o with_o their_o pollution_n to_o be_v renounce_v for_o if_o pollution_n may_v warrant_v man_n to_o cast_v away_o with_o it_o that_o which_o be_v ordain_v of_o god_n then_o may_v not_o the_o holy_a vessel_n pollute_v in_o babylon_n have_v be_v bring_v again_o to_o jerusa_n nor_o yet_o the_o temple_n itself_o that_o be_v so_o great_o profane_v in_o the_o day_n of_o the_o idolatrous_a king_n have_v any_o more_o be_v use_v as_o a_o place_n of_o worsh._n to_o the_o l._n second_o i_o answer_v that_o we_o have_v receive_v a_o true_a baptism_n in_o the_o apostate_n chu_n as_o the_o people_n of_o god_n do_v circumcision_n among_o the_o ten_o trybe_n &_o therefore_o we_o may_v no_o more_o renounce_v it_o &_o assume_v a_o new_a than_o they_o that_o return_v to_o jerus_n 2._o chro._n 30.11_o may_v renounce_v their_o circumcision_n &_o be_v recircumcise_v it_o be_v object_v of_o some_o that_o this_o comparison_n hold_v not_o for_o israel_n be_v a_o true_a chu_n &_o therefore_o their_o circumcision_n be_v true_a but_o apostate_n church_n have_v nothing_o true_a neither_o be_v the_o member_n thereof_o capable_a either_o of_o the_o covenant_n or_o seal_v in_o that_o stand_n &_o it_o be_v not_o true_a baptism_n to_o such_o this_o objection_n in_o part_n i_o have_v answer_v before_o &_o now_o answer_v further_o 1._o that_o the_o israelite_n in_o their_o apostasy_n be_v not_o a_o true_a church_n 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