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A54126 The counterfeit Christian detected; and the real Quaker justified Of God and Scripture, reason & antiquity. against the vile forgeries, gross perversions, black slanders, plain contradictions & scurrilous language of T. Hicks an Anabaptist preacher, in his third dialogue between a Christian and a Quaker, call'd, The Quaker condemned, &c. By way of an appeal to all sober people, especially those called Anabaptists in and about the City of London. By a lover of truth and peace W. P. Penn, William, 1644-1718. 1674 (1674) Wing P1271; ESTC R220484 73,223 125

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ghost_n be_v this_o discoverer_n and_o instructor_n and_o yet_o not_o eminent_o the_o rule_n but_o in_o asmuch_o as_o thou_o charge_v i_o with_o deny_v the_o scripture_n authority_n and_o then_o rail_v p._n 61._o because_o i_o place_v it_o upon_o the_o te●●timony_n of_o the_o light_n and_o spirit_n of_o god_n in_o the_o conscience_n hear_v what_o d._n john_n owen_n say_v the_o only_a public_a authentic_a and_o infallible_a interpreter_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n be_v he_o who_o be_v the_o author_n of_o they_o from_o the_o breathe_v of_o who_o spirit_n it_o derive_v all_o its_o verity_n perspicuity_n and_o authority_n exerc._n 2.7_o 9_o what_o will_v have_v become_v of_o i_o t._n h._n if_o i_o have_v speak_v so_o broad_a as_o this_o this_o make_v the_o spirit_n interpreter_n judge_n and_o rule_n of_o our_o knowledge_n therefore_o eminent_o the_o rule_n t._n collier_n a_o ancient_a and_o considerable_a baptist_n shall_v be_v my_o last_o instance_n here_o there_o be_v the_o law_n and_o testimony_n in_o the_o spirit_n say_v he_o as_o well_o as_o in_o the_o letter_n the_o law_n of_o god_n be_v in_o the_o heart_n there_o it_o be_v write_v and_o there_o it_o testify_v the_o truth_n of_o god_n and_o if_o any_o man_n speak_v not_o according_a to_o this_o rule_n it_o be_v because_o there_o be_v no_o light_n or_o morning_n rise_v in_o he_o see_v his_o work_n pag._n 249._o again_o other_o know_v no_o other_o touchstone_n nor_o trial_n no_o other_o light_n by_o which_o they_o judge_v of_o truth_n than_o scripture_n thus_o put_v it_o in_o the_o room_n of_o the_o spirit_n which_o be_v light_n and_o the_o great_a light_n for_o they_o say_v they_o can_v know_v truth_n till_o they_o bring_v it_o to_o the_o letter_n for_o trial_n thus_o make_v a_o idol_n of_o the_o letter_n set_v it_o up_o in_o the_o room_n of_o god_n ibid._n pag._n 248._o i_o can_v produce_v a_o great_a cloud_n of_o more_o witness_n both_o of_o father_n and_o other_o author_n but_o i_o hope_v i_o have_v 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we_o irreverent_o set_v they_o the_o scripture_n below_o our_o own_o write_n but_o upon_o a_o comparison_n only_o between_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o spirit_n that_o give_v they_o forth_o what_o return_n do_v thou_o give_v to_o this_o c._n it_o be_v aggravate_v not_o to_o excuse_v your_o error_n q._n it_o be_v a_o error_n to_o call_v the_o scripture_n the_o letter_n in_o a_o comparison_n with_o the_o spirit_n and_o a_o aggravation_n of_o that_o error_n to_o prefer_v the_o spirit_n before_o the_o letter_n but_o as_o this_o all_o thou_o have_v to_o say_v to_o the_o matter_n c._n why_o have_v you_o not_o respect_n to_o this_o comparison_n when_o you_o entitle_v your_o own_o book_n but_o that_o you_o will_v have_v we_o to_o believe_v that_o your_o write_n be_v more_o eminent_o from_o the_o spirit_n than_o the_o scripture_n p._n 56._o q._n how_o do_v we_o prefer_v our_o write_n above_o the_o scripture_n which_o we_o prove_v by_o the_o scripture_n i_o perceive_v it_o be_v become_v 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ashamed_a of_o make_v i_o base_a and_o profane_a too_o and_o print_v a_o most_o horrid_a untruth_n to_o render_v i_o so_o there_o be_v not_o a_o sentence_n in_o thy_o book_n give_v a_o clear_a testimony_n of_o the_o injustice_n of_o thy_o carriage_n then_o this_o in_o hand_n for_o nothing_o be_v more_o frequent_a with_o thou_o throughout_o thy_o dialogue_n than_o first_o to_o invent_v something_o odious_a in_o our_o name_n and_o then_o as_o if_o none_o so_o modest_a and_o righteous_a as_o thyself_o cry_v out_o who_o will_v not_o be_v astonish_v at_o this_o blasphemous_a absurdity_n p._n 30._o be_v thou_o not_o ashamed_a of_o this_o profaneness_n and_o baseness_n p._n 59_o o_o impious_a man_n etc._n etc._n p._n 13._o but_o let_v this_o determine_v this_o point_n between_o we_o produce_v but_o one_o of_o our_o friend_n that_o ever_o bring_v his_o write_n in_o competition_n with_o the_o scripture_n call_v the_o scripture_n the_o dead_a letter_n &_o his_o own_o book_n the_o voice_n of_o 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be_v d●ngerous_a for_o thou_o priest_n take_v in_o h●re_n to_o war_n withal_o against_o the_o saint_n with_o thy_o carnal_a mind_n give_v out_o thy_o carnal_a exposition_n upon_o it_o all_o this_o t._n h._n thou_o have_v unworthy_o leave_v out_o that_o thou_o may_v the_o better_o fasten_v thy_o fiction_n upon_o g._n f._n and_o r._n h._n i_o ask_v be_v it_o not_o dangerous_a to_o read_v the_o scripture_n to_o these_o end_n and_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o letter_n be_v the_o minister_n of_o death_n here_o thou_o leave_v out_o again_o which_o be_v to_o condemnation_n and_o you_o take_v it_o to_o make_v a_o trade_n with_o it_o and_o with_o what_o the_o prophet_n christ_n and_o the_o apostle_n say_v so_o that_o some_o have_v 60_o and_o some_o 100_o l._n a_o year_n but_o christ_n cry_v woe_n unto_o such_o white_v wall_n have_v leave_v out_o this_o part_n that_o concern_v the_o hireling_n thou_o put_v in_o again_o and_o here_o you_o read_v with_o danger_n who_o speak_v of_o they_o and_o speak_v a_o lie_n because_o you_o speak_v of_o yourselves_o here_o again_o thou_o let_v drop_v and_o you_o wr●st_v the_o scripture_n to_o your_o own_o destruction_n as_o the_o unlearned_a and_o unstable_a do_v and_o be_v not_o this_o dangerous_a in_o they_o then_o thou_o bring_v in_o this_o and_o to_o you_o it_o be_v dangerous_a to_o read_v or_o speak_v of_o they_o omit_v all_o that_o here_o follow_v by_o i_o cite_v to_o clear_v they_o of_o thy_o charge_n viz._n who_o know_v not_o the_o life_n of_o they_o as_o the_o pharisee_n who_o be_v learn_v in_o the_o letter_n but_o know_v not_o christ_n but_o i_o say_v bless_a be_v he_o that_o read_v &_o do_v understand_v all_o this_o so_o necessary_a to_o give_v the_o undertstanding_n of_o their_o true_a mean_v thou_o
he_o lo●●_n suffer_v thou_o froward_a he_o be_v good_a to_o his_o enemi●●_n thou_o base_a to_o thy_o neighbour_n sure_o thou_o have_v forg●●_n that_o if_o thou_o walk_v as_o he_o walk_v thou_o must_v have_v do_v with_o that_o dangerous_a doctrine_n of_o perfection_n as_o thou_o else_o where_o repute_a it_o but_o at_o thy_o rate_n of_o quote_v this_o scripture_n and_o follow_v of_o christ_n thou_o may_v as_o well_o bring_v in_o circumcision_n and_o the_o passover_n as_o baptism_n and_o the_o supper_n christ_n tell_v his_o disciple_n the_o spirit_n shall_v lead_v they_o into_o all_o truth_n after_o his_o ascension_n and_o his_o belove_a disciple_n john_n refer_v the_o church_n to_o the_o anoint_v c._n you_o tell_v we_o these_o ordinance_n be_v use_v as_o figure_n and_o shadow_n no_o long_o to_o endure_v then_o till_o the_o substance_n come_v viz._n the_o baptism_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n the_o reason_n can_v be_v no_o other_o than_o the_o vain_a conceit_n of_o a_o delude_a mind_n for_o they_o be_v no_o figure_n of_o the_o baptism_n of_o the_o spirit_n therefore_o this_o can_v be_v no_o reason_n for_o the_o abolish_n of_o they_o christ_n command_v his_o apostle_n to_o teach_v and_o baptize_v promise_v to_o be_v with_o they_o to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n q._n who_o ever_o say_v that_o break_v of_o bread_n be_v a_o figure_n of_o the_o spirit_n be_v baptism_n it_o be_v a_o mere_a fiction_n of_o thy_o make_n as_o p._n 107._o of_o reas_n against_o rail_n will_v show_v but_o if_o water-baptism_n and_o break_v of_o bread_n be_v no_o figure_n nor_o shadow_n they_o must_v be_v substance_n and_o what_o difference_n then_o there_o be_v between_o thou_o and_o popery_n in_o this_o point_n let_v the_o reader_n judge_n and_o for_o christ_n bid_n his_o disciple_n go_v teach_v baptise_v matth._n 28._o i_o tell_v thou_o that_o no_o water_n be_v mention_v and_o that_o luke_n in_o the_o first_o of_o the_o act_n say_v before_o the_o commission_n mention_v by_o matthew_n can_v be_v give_v at_o least_o execute_v john_n baptize_v with_o water_n but_o you_o shall_v be_v baptize_v with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n not_o many_o day_n hence_o and_o then_o come_v the_o commission_n in_o force_n go_v teach_v baptise_v how_o with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n turn_v people_n from_o darkness_n t●_n light_n from_o the_o power_n of_o satan_n unto_o god_n c._n if_o the_o baptism_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n do_v put_v this_o commission_n in_o force_n as_o thou_o say_v then_o the_o obligation_n to_o those_o duty_n signify_v in_o the_o commission_n can_v be_v take_v off_o if_o so_o thy_o argument_n fall_v q._n a_o poor_a shuffle_v indeed_o do_v my_o argument_n fall_v because_o thou_o beg_v the_o question_n which_o be_v whether_o their_o baptism_n be_v with_o water_n or_o the_o holy_a ghost_n c._n if_o baptism_n of_o water_n be_v not_o intend_v than_o none_o not_o the_o baptism_n of_o affliction_n for_o the_o apostle_n be_v not_o to_o persecute_v not_o the_o baptism_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n for_o that_o be_v a_o promise_n not_o a_o commission_n p._n 63._o q._n thou_o do_v but_o trifle_n with_o we_o still_o though_o to_o be_v baptize_v be_v a_o promise_n yet_o to_o baptize_v be_v a_o commission_n to_o be_v baptize_v not_o many_o day_n hence_o be_v the_o promise_n of_o christ_n but_o go_v and_o baptize_v all_o nation_n which_o follow_v be_v a_o commission_n and_o that_o it_o be_v with_o no_o other_o baptism_n christ_n distinction_n sufficient_o prove_v viz._n john_n indeed_o baptize_v with_o water_n but_o you_o shall_v be_v baptize_v with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n not_o many_o day_n hence_o stay_v till_o then_o and_o go_v and_o teach_v baptise_v all_o nation_n etc._n etc._n c._n to_o baptize_v with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v none_o of_o their_o duty_n it_o be_v proper_o christ_n work_n p._n 63._o q._n it_o be_v both_o their_o work_n and_o duty_n witness_v that_o simon_n magus_n will_v have_v buy_v that_o gift_n of_o peter_n and_o that_o paul_n baptize_v with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n act_v 19_o do_v he_o not_o therein_o do_v his_o duty_n c._n be_v it_o proper_a to_o say_v i_o baptize_v you_o with_o the_o spirit_n into_o the_o name_n of_o the_o spirit_n q._n yes_o if_o thou_o have_v the_o spirit_n unless_o thou_o will_v make_v a_o counterfeit_a christiaen_n of_o he_o who_o thou_o without_o the_o spirit_n baptize_v into_o the_o name_n of_o the_o spirit_n will_v thou_o have_v a_o man_n baptize_v into_o the_o name_n and_o not_o into_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o spirit_n can_v a_o man_n baptize_v into_o spirit_n and_o into_o life_n without_o spirit_n and_o life_n god_n do_v convert_v reconcile_v baptize_v beget_v and_o build_v up_o thousand_o to_o himself_o by_o they_o unto_o who_o the_o word_n of_o reconciliation_n be_v commit_v and_o who_o be_v ambassador_n in_o christ_n stead_n now_o as_o for_o water-baptism_n what_o paul_n say_v of_o himself_o i_o may_v say_v of_o his_o commission_n it_o be_v not_o behind_o any_o of_o the_o rest_n yet_o he_o deny_v water-baptism_n to_o be_v any_o part_n of_o it_o and_o be_v as_o plain_o reject_v of_o he_o in_o point_n of_o institution_n as_o any_o thing_n in_o scripture_n so_o that_o either_o water-baptism_n be_v none_o of_o christ_n institution_n or_o else_o paul_n have_v no_o commission_n to_o perform_v christ_n institution_n which_o be_v strange_a t._n collier_n determine_v this_o the_o baptism_n of_o christ_n be_v the_o baptism_n of_o the_o spirit_n but_o if_o any_o of_o you_o can_v show_v a_o large_a commission_n than_o paul_n have_v let_v he_o produce_v it_o if_o not_o i_o must_v conclude_v they_o run_v and_o be_v not_o sent._n §._o vii_o of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o justification_n i_o perceive_v ●y_a what_o thou_o have_v write_v of_o justification_n thou_o intende_v to_o end_v at_o the_o rate_n thou_o have_v manage_v the_o controversy_n all_o along_o i_o mean_v with_o the_o same_o shuffle_n and_o injustice_n i_o will_v set_v down_o thy_o charge_n the_o answer_n thou_o make_v i_o give_v and_o thy_o reply_n c._n thou_o have_v hold_o affirm_v that_o justification_n by_o that_o righteousness_n christ_n fulfil_v for_o we_o whole_o without_o we_o to_o be_v a_o doctrine_n of_o devil_n apol._n pag._n 148._o what_o say_v thou_o be_v this_o q._n this_o apology_n cite_v be_v write_v against_o a_o malicious_a priest_n in_o ireland_n reas_n ag_n rail_n p._n 68_o if_o thy_o position_n can_v be_v prove_v it_o will_v be_v no_o excuse_n to_o say_v it_o be_v give_v to_o a_o malicious_a priest_n yea_o thy_o folly_n and_o rashness_n be_v the_o more_o aggravate_v etc._n etc._n p._n 96._o q._n as_o if_o i_o have_v give_v that_o answer_n not_o to_o inform_v person_n against_o who_o the_o book_n be_v write_v and_o the_o occasion_n of_o the_o passage_n but_o as_o one_o unable_a to_o say_v any_o thing_n in_o my_o defence_n to_o extenuate_v the_o fact_n and_o excuse_v my_o write_n it_o i_o perceive_v rather_o than_o want_v occasion_n to_o abuse_v i_o thou_o will_v make_v they_o but_o what_o say_v thou_o concern_v justification_n c._n thou_o suppose_v the_o doctrine_n of_o justification_n by_o that_o righteousness_n which_o christ_n fulfil_v whole_o without_o we_o to_o be_v a_o sin-pleasing_a and_o dangerous_a notion_n what_o reason_n have_v thou_o so_o to_o esteem_v it_o p._n 67._o q._n i_o do_v so_o take_v my_o word_n in_o my_o sense_n and_o my_o reason_n be_v one_a because_o whole_o without_o we_o be_v a_o unscriptural_a phrase_n 2_o dly_a it_o take_v away_o the_o necessity_n of_o all_o inward_a work_n 3_o dly_a no_o man_n be_v justify_v without_o faith_n no_o man_n have_v faith_n without_o sanctification_n and_o work_n therefore_o the_o work_n of_o righteousness_n by_o the_o spirit_n be_v necessary_a to_o complete_a justification_n c._n whether_o a_o sincere_a faith_n be_v necessary_a to_o our_o justification_n be_v one_o thing_n but_o whether_o such_o a_o faith_n be_v our_o sole_a righteousness_n by_o which_o we_o be_v justify_v be_v another_o p._n 67._o q._n and_o whether_o t._n h._n be_v not_o a●_n idle_a shifter_n be_v another_o thing_n be_v it_o the_o question_n whether_o our_o faith_n be_v the_o sole_a righteousness_n to_o justification_n or_o whether_o justification_n be_v by_o a_o righteousness_n whole_o without_o we_o and_o our_o faith_n too_o if_o a_o sncere_a faith_n be_v necessary_a then_o because_o faith_n be_v not_o faith_n without_o work_n justification_n be_v not_o wrought_v whole_o without_o i_o tell_v thou_o before_o that_o this_o doctrine_n of_o thou_o speak_v peace_n to_o the_o wicked_a whilst_o wicked_a but_o there_o be_v no_o peace_n to_o the_o wicked_a say_v my_o god_n c._n it_o be_v horrible_a wicked_a to_o conclude_v that_o what_o christ_n have_v do_v and_o suffer_v without_o we_o be_v to_o speak_v peace_n to_o the_o wicked_a while_o such_o
be_v therefore_o incosistent_a with_o government_n contin_n pag._n 59_o 60._o who_o will_v have_v expect_v this_o from_o a_o profess_a baptist_n and_o preacher_n too_o xiii_o from_o our_o deny_v the_o resurrection_n of_o the_o natural_a corruptible_a body_n leave_v it_o with_o the_o lord_n to_o give_v we_o a_o body_n as_o please_v he_o as_o 1_o cor._n 15.36_o 37_o 38._o this_o caviller_n endeavour_v to_o possess_v people_n with_o our_o denial_n of_o the_o resurrection_n of_o any_o body_n to_o life_n eternal_a however_o spiritual_a or_o glorify_v dial._n 1._o p._n 56._o to_o 62._o and_o last_o from_o our_o assert_v the_o unity_n of_o god_n and_o the_o soul_n and_o denial_n of_o his_o carnal_a resurrection_n he_o conclude_v that_o the_o soul_n be_v part_n of_o god_n a●d_v that_o no_o future_a reward_n or_o punishment_n be_v to_o be_v expect_v dial._n 1._o p._n 16_o 17._o these_o reader_n be_v some_o of_o the_o many_o perversion_n this_o ungodly_a man_n be_v guilty_a of_o against_o our_o 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dial._n 3._o p._n 13._o which_o reader_n in_o plain_a term_n be_v as_o much_o as_o to_o say_v because_o the_o scripture_n do_v not_o so_o effectual_o discover_v evil_a conception_n as_o the_o light_n within_o therefore_o the_o scripture_n rather_o countenance_n and_o justify_v they_o monstrous_a baseness_n the_o truth_n be_v be_v his_o endeavour_n against_o we_o but_o well_o weigh_v of_o all_o that_o see_v they_o there_o be_v little_a need_n of_o our_o labour_n in_o his_o discovery_n or_o our_o own_o defence_n but_o that_o which_o aggravate_v his_o sin_n be_v the_o hard_a word_n he_o give_v i_o after_o all_o i_o know_v not_o why_o unless_o to_o cover_v his_o own_o gild_n or_o make_v his_o credulous_a reader_n think_v i_o as_o hateful_a as_o he_o will_v have_v i_o 2._o the_o second_o perversion_n i_o shall_v instance_n be_v this_o because_o i_o tell_v he_o in_o answer_n to_o his_o objection_n about_o the_o light_n be_v insufficiency_n for_o it_o be_v not_o discover_v to_o the_o 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