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A84597 The scorned Quakers true and honest account, both why and what he should have spoken (as to the sum and substance thereof) by commission from God, but that he had not permission from men, in the Painted Chamber on the 17th. day of the 7th. month 1656. before the Protector and the Parliament then, and there met together, with many more of no mean account, who were not of them, yet were then crowded in among them. Fisher, Samuel, 1605-1665. 1656 (1656) Wing F1057; Thomason E889_10; ESTC R202114 32,531 40

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and had no certain dwelling place and yet though counted the very scum of the world as these are now by you were neither rogues nor vagabonds saith the Lord some for onely entring into the Synagogues whose doors stand open for all Men and there either doing nothing or declaring sometimes in deed before but sometimes not till after all is ended even as the movings of the Lord are upon them against the false worships and hireling Priests thereof that Divine for money and the people that love to have it so which both Christ and the Prophets and Apostles of old did even there cry woe against and yet were neither disturbers nor Malefact●rs saith the Lord some for not having the faith of God with respect of persons which who so have are convinced of the Law as transgressors some for not giving flattering titles unto Men not honouring them in their own way of bowing before them not stooping to their wills beyond either sense or reason which the Law of God flatly forbiddeth some for not putting off the Hat to them or standing bare-headed before them which no Law at all of either God or Man commandeth but is onely one of those many customs of the Heathen which are vain and so vain is this especially as the complementall Cringers and foolish fashion-followers of this vain age use it that men may with as much civility put off and require the putting off of their Coats one to another and to as much good purpose saith the Lord some for using the plain English of Thee and Thou to Men though it be the most proper speech to a single person whether you speak to God or the greatest Men witness your own translation of the Scripture into your own English tongue in all which it can't be found from one end thereof to the other where the word you is made use of when no more but one person is spoken to besides what evidence is given in from other tongues to the truth of this save onely that meer pride and respect of persons doth both improperly and impudently plead to have severall sorts of speaking to severall s●rts of people in this brutish Nation and adulterous Generation saith the Lord some for telling lyars in plain terms onely of their lying which to do is held to be such reviling as deserves little less than half hanging among many though there is no more reall hurt but that falshood and foolish custome hath perverted the true being of many things and your true seeing almost of any things as they are in saying to him that lyeth Thou lyest than in saying to him that sweareth Thou swearest saith the Lord some for not paying of tythes even to them that they neither do nor can in Conscience ever own to be their Pastours though they hinder no Men from paying them that have a Mind to it and whose Consciences compell them even that way to maintain their own Ministers which as the Gospell is against the paying of by Christs flock to their own Shepheards that feed them much more to such Shepheards as whether they will or no do fleece but never feed them so no Law in this Land can compell any Man to pay at all in case he be minded whether out of Covetousness or Conscience to refuse it the Ecclesiastical Courts being clear taken away and there being an express Statute extant remaining yet unrepealed that it shall not be lawfull for any to sue for tythes in any Temporall or in any but in Ecclesiasticall Courts nor for any to be summoned before any secular Judge to give in any answer about that Matter and therefore what condition the Judges are in that now meddle with it who are sworn not to do against any Statute Law of the Land let the light in their own Consciences be judge for to that measure of my light in them by which I am coming to be a swift witness against the false swearer as well as every other evill doer do I now speak and appeal saith the Lord some for no more than bare going out of duty to God to visit their imprisoned and afflicted friends have been sent back without the sight of them and some with passes as Rogues Vagabonds and idle wanderers though they have been of sufficient worth as to the outward also and have never either begged or stole and others are taken up by the way to their friends and put by whole heaps together in prison and there kept till they can buckle so low to the wills of Men against all Law and Conscience as to say if the Lord will they will go back without effecting their intended lawfull business of visiting Christ in prison which woe to them that do not much more woe to them that do imprison him or not go on in that their honest undertaking witness that sinfull shamefull business at Exeter where are no less than between ten and twenty at once in prison meerly for going to see friends in prison at another place and there held unless they will find sureties for their good behaviour or pass their words if the Lord will to go which way they would have them as if the Land were not free for Men that are bound by the Law of God to a good behaviour to pass up and down in about none but lawfull occasions without binding themselves thereunto and so giving it for granted that they have misbehaved themselves when they have not upon every malicious Officers unruly will or Magistrates slender and meer groundless suspition b Thus is my people made a prey of saith the Lord for which in speciall as for all other of your evills have I had a controversy with you and my hand hath been against you saith the Lord so that you have not prospered in your undertakings ye have travelled much in your Councells but ye have brought forth little ye have wrought no deliverance in the earth to any perfection neither have your enemies fallen before you of late as in former dayes but ye have fallen even woderfully before them ye have sown iniquity and reaped meer vanity ye have sown wind and reaped a whirlewind even a grievous whirlewind of wrath from the Lord which falls with much pain upon your heads of distractions divisions jealousies one of another and suspitions fractions and factions confusion contention disappointment and vexation upon vexation ye have sown to the flesh and there is come up a crop of corruption that hath made you fit fuell for the fire of mine indignation which is kindled and except ye repent will ere long waxe burning hot against you till it have consumed you into nothing Wherefore now thus saith the Lord God unto you ye stiffe-necked and stout hearted ones who though ye talk of it yet are far from my righteousness yee high and sturdy Oakes of Bashan ye tall and haughty Cedars of Lebanon come down and sit in the dust and humble your selves under my mighty hand which is
that are truly good I will hold my peace now no longer saith the Lord as concerning this evill which they so prophanely commit and do dayly against my chosen but will utterly subvert and overturn them and bring the Kingdoms and Dominions and the greatness of the Kingdom under the whole Heaven into the hands of the holy ones of the most high and give unto my Son and his Saints to raign over all the earth and take all the Rule and authority and power that shall stand up against my Son in his Saints and put it down among all the rest as one of his great enemies under his feet saith the Lord for though the world take no delight in them yet I take pleasure in my people saith the Lord and I will beautify my meek ones with salvation and I will put my high prayses into their mouth and a two edged Sword into their hands and they shall execute vengeance upon the Heathen and punishments upon the people and shal bind their Kings in Chains and their Nobles in fetters of Iron and execute upon them the judgement that is written in my eternal decree and unchangeable Counsell saith the Lord this honour have all my Saints this is the heritage of my servants saith the Lord their righteousness and their reign their salvation and redemption and all their dignity is of me onely and of me onely and not of themselves shall they acknowledge it to be saith the Lord God Almighty who is now doing all this his holy will and good pleasure and who is he that shall ever disanull it Given forth under my hand as the Lord himself gave it into my heart to see and into my mouth to speake in part and unto my hand thus at large to write it this 25. day of she same month 1656. FINIS a Unless either of the two Justices were Members of the House that took me to do a little after one of which taking me to be a Jesuit busyed himself more about me than he needed to have done unless they had found cause to do more to me than at last they did b Wherefore how justly Thou even thou Oliver Cromwell chief Ruler according to Man in these Nations couldst say in thy Speach as in my hearing thou didst before my offer to speak these things from the Lord that thou knewest not of any one man that sufferd imprisonment unjustly in all England I plainly know not unless thou be mistaken as very often no doubt thou art and very easily ●ver mayst be if thou see and hear not sometimes with thy own eyes and ears and not alwaies with other mens in the people of Gods conditions thorow that unusuall mist of mis-information which as it ever makes thy own misery greater upon thee so it often makes our misery far greater under thee than else perhaps it would be if the Cloud of false accusation did not cover us and hide our integrity towards God and our innocency towards thee and all men from thy eyes whereupon I am moved of the Lord a new here to warn thee if thou mean to raign that thou take away the wicked from before thee and all flattering false accusers if thou find any such about thee else the throne will never be est●b●ished in righteousness and if thou doubt the truth of our speaking to thee from the Lord so immediatly as by us is owned because the old Prophets words and Scriptures by us are often used as thou didst when by speciall motion and speciall mission I spake once to thee from the Lord to what purpose thou shalt once remember again if it be now forgotten know thou in order to the removing of that stumbling stone out of thy way that howbeit Micah wrote the same words that Isaiah did Mic. 4. 1. Isa. 2. 1. and Christ spake the same words that Esdras spake before him 2 Esd. 1. 30. Matth. 23. 37 38. and the Apostles often spake in phrases which were found before them in the Prophets writings yet all these holy men of God both spake and wrote immediatly by the Spirit as it gave them utterance and no otherwise did all holy men of God ever speak but as they were moved nor do any holy men of God now speak the word of God but as they are moved by that one and the self same holy Spirit
have been formerly acted towards me but formally and fainedly saith the Lord insomuch that since you are still in your iniquities I cannot away with your solemn assemblies I smell no sweet smell in your Sacrifices it is iniquitie to me even your most solemn meeting Therefore now trust not in lying words saying the Temple of the Lord the Church of God the worship of God and such like nor think that this is the fasting that I have chosen and will accept for a man to afflict his soul and hang down his head for a day and then go on in his sins as if he had obtained from God by his coming to him a dispensation to sin more securely another time for this is but deceit and all your labour will prove but a lye to you saith the Lord but wash you make you clean and abstain from the fleshly lusts of your own hearts and turn in every one of you to the light in your own consciences that shews you good and evil and frame your ways and your doings according thereunto even that pure Law of righteousness plac●d within you whereby every one of you are made from God even a Law unto your selves which light is Gods own wi●ness within you all which if it condemn you God justifies you not and hearken to the voice of that Prophet Christ Jesus to whom in words your own preachers point you and to whom I who came not in among you this day to be your Teacher my self but to direct you to him do from God himself who sent me direct you as your truest Teacher to whom also the true Ministry did direct men of old who were sent of him to turn men from darkness to the light from the power of Satan to God who is light and to Christ himself who is the light of the world that enlightneth every man that cometh into the world That Prophet whose voice soever hears not and obeys not even in all things whatsoever he saith to them shall be cut off from among his people who by a measure of light from himself hath enlightned every one of you whose voice is within and not without to you nor heard now without by any of you for the Scripture is not his voice but so far as truly translated a Declaration of what he spake to and by those holy men that were moved to write it who heard his voice within and saw him in his own light within as ye may do if ye will but hear ye deaf and look ye blind for he is that powerfull and living word of God which is nigh you so nigh that ye need not say who shall go to Heaven to fetch him down to us and who shall go hither or thither beyond Sea or into Scotland or this Land or that to fetch a Directory for us he is nigh even in your hearts within you by his light Preaching himself to you and the mind and will of the Father to you and known by you to be in you too if you be not Reprobates yea I say it again to you from the Lord there is within you his Light which both seeth and sheweth you all that ever you did in your lives and that you now dayly do think or speak and sets all your sins in order before you reproving you for them in your own consciences if you do but heed him and that is the light of Christ the word of God that is quick searches you to the quick before whom all things are n●ked and bare and by whom all shall be brought to judgement who by his light within you sheweth you as in a glass your own faces your own Spirits your own selves and what manner of men you are as the Scriptures cannot do for in the Scriptures which I own and honour and am far from disswading any man from looking into you may read the Right of things and what you should and should not be and do but the light within is larger than that and of further extent shewing not onely the Right and the Law and what we should be and do but also the fact even what we do and are the light which the Scripture sends to as we also do it manifests all things not onely that ought to be done but also that are done and therefore evill ones come not to it least their deeds by it should be reproved but they that do truth come to it not onely that it may appear as it may in a Letter without also to them that besides the light within have the Law in a Letter also and heed it what they shou●d do but what they do that their deeds may be manifest whether they are wrought in God yea or nay now turn in your minds I say to that even to the light I say not to the darkness for there is that also but to the light which is within and that b●ing heeded will lead you out of the works of darkness that it discovers to be in you even up to Christ to the life of Christ and God from whom it comes yea if you be minded to try the truth of it turn into it in what measure you take heed to it and abide by it even by the word hid in the heart you shall not sin against God they do no iniquity who walk in that his Law they that walk in the Spirit shall not fulfill the lusts of the flesh you shall find that light the power of God to the salvation of you from the sins which it shew● to be in you and bring you not onely under judgement for them and to confess ye the sins that are past and so to a forgiveness of them but also through faith in his blood to a cleansing from all unrighteousness all filthiness of flesh and Spirit and to the perfecting of holyness in the fear of God and bring forth his righteousness in you and his Image in you who is made of God to them that receive him even wisdom righteousness sanctification and redemption and they in him the Sons of God and partakers of his na●ure to that therefore turn your minds and attend and by it be guided and there you will witness peace and acceptance with God and boldness before God your own hearts not checking nor condemning you of sin which is the transgression of that Law however you may be condemned of men which turning from you go condemned in your selves and before God and then what will it profit you if all men should speak well of you and justify you and say you are Godly and honest men and this and that And this is the onely infallible teacher for all men for the Scriptures not as written by the men that were inspired but as since then mistranscribed even in the very Greek and Hebrew Copies how much more as we have them mistranslated in many things and in so many severall translations these are in somethings fallibe so not fit to
Cromwell Protector so calld of these three Nations of England Scotland and Ireland and also to all you who are chosen out of the several parts thereof to sit in Parliament this day to consider of such things as concern the Common-wealth thereof and likewise to the three Nations themselves even to the Towns Cities Countries and all the subordinate Powers and people thereof whose Rulers and Representatives ye are which word of the Lord as you do not deeme your selves too high or too great or too good to be spoken too from the Lord and as you will not fall under the guilt of that sin of saying to the Seers see not and to the Prophets prophesy not prophesy not unto us right things prophesy smooth things prophesy deceipts which iniquity will prove such a breach among you if you do as you will never be able to make up again with all your wisdoms I charge you all in the name of the living God that without interruption or opposition whether you like or like it not you stand still and hear it and when I have done you may do with me as the Lord shall give you leave or leave me under the power of your hands to do no Law of Equity condemning any Man before he be heard specially when he speaks on so high an account as from the God of Heaven himself though to such as are no less than Gods under him here on Earth Ye are a seed of evill doers saith the Lord an Hypocriticall Generation a people whose heart is not right and whose spirit is not stedfast with the Lord ye have made many shews of seeking my face but ye have not yet found it because ye have not sought it in sincerity ye have talked much of turning unto me but ye have never done it yet with all your hearts but faignedly saith the Lord ye have seemed much to enquire after me in your long prayers as if ye did delight to know my ways but my ways which are ways of purity peace and pleasantness though grievous to the wicked ye yet know not so well as ye might do did ye stand in my Counsell and so far forth as ye do know of them ye have no delight to walk in them so straight and rugged are they to that Nature which ye yet remain in ye call out to me after light as if ye were very desirous to be enlightned but ye are haters of my light of my life saith the Lord even the light in the conscience which I have placed in every one of you to be a witness for me against your selves when ye do evill which if a Man believe in he shall not abide in darkness but shall see the light of life and come forth in my Image and likeness saith the Lord this ye come not closely to lest you should be reproved by it but love darkness more than it because your deeds are evill ye have fasted often and hung down your heads like a bulrush for a day but you have never yet fasted unto me saith the Lord you find your own pleasure still the bands of wickedness are not loosed you are captivated still in the Cords of your own sins neither have you in the midst of all your abstinencies abstained ever yet from the fleshly lusts which war against your souls but are as proud as ever as pompous and vain as ever as luxurious and wanton as covetous and earthly minded as self-seeking as time-serving as Men-pleasing as oppressing and unrighteous as before ye have often fasted for but never fully from your iniquities to this day saith the Lord you would be counted professors yea promoters of Religion but are indeed persecuters of the very life and power and of that people that do live in the life and power of that same Religion which inform and words ye have long professed the Christian Religion contained in the Scripture is that which in the 35th Article of your present Government ye say shall be held forth and recommended as the publick profession of the Nation and indeed many severall outward forms fashions and professions of that Christian Religion ye have run out into saith the Lord but the substance it self living in the spirit walking after the spirit keeping a Mans self out of the lusts of the flesh unspotted of the world which is the onely pure and undefiled and true Christian Religion the Scripture calls for this is rather held under and discommended than held forth and recommended by you any further than in a sound of words so long as such as do solidly unfainedly in truth and not in talk make publick profession of that are by all empty formalists in all places injured accused falsely unjustly censured and abused ye judge not the meek in righteousness ye condemn the generation of the just ones ye love lyars hurt the peaceable and destroy the dwellings of such as bring forth fruits unto me as your selves never yet did and that do you no harme saith the Lord Witness the sad sufferings of so many of my Saints and Servants that tremble at my word saith the Lord and are therefore commonly but scornfully called Quakers many of whose pretious ones of whom the world is not worthy as unworthy as they are thought to live in quiet in it have for these two or three years last past in some parts of the other two Nations and in most parts of this undergone tryalls of cruell mockings and scoffings revilings and derisions dayly also of stockings and stonings cruell and bloudy whippings and scourgings shamefull and despitefull intreatings and handlings halings out of Synagogues risings of people in rude and tumultuous manners upon them and such cruell kinds of bonds and imprisonments as those that are Malefactors in deed for such are objects of your pity while they suffer and not your hatred saith the Lord do seldome or never meet with castings into narrow nasty holes and stinking Dungeons wherein yet access of friends to minister to them is oft denyed them heavy and cruell fines which they can sooner choose to perish in prison as some have done than ever pay they being meerly by the wills of Man imposed upon them which fines will be at last a talent of lead upon their consciences that have set them and as the Gall of Aspes in their bowells that exact the payment these and such like things have my servants suffered among you some for one small matter some another but not for ought at which I am displeased or offended with them saith the Lord as namely some meerly for travelling to and fro to fulfill the Ministry they receive of God and to testifie the Gospell of his grac in obedience to him who hath layed such necessity on them so to do that woe be unto them from him if they do it not even as the Apostles and true Ministers of old did by the power of the Spirit of the Lotd upon them who passed up and down preaching
many who the more they pray to God the more they play fast and loose with him the more they harden the more they heighten the more they strengthen themselves in the Devills Kingdom and in their blind misguided zeal which tells them 't is errour who can't see wood for trees against the truth so as in that zeal as Paul once did till his eye was opened to persecute the Church for how true that was which was said before you this day viz. that in the turnings of the world there was a change of men but not of things I le not determine in some respects it may be so yet sure I am this is as true also that in the turnings of the world to God ther 's a change of things and not of men unless it be into worse for though they shift from forme to forme from a darker to a clearer and from a superstitious to one more refined yet themselves remain some as and some more dark and superstitious in those their finer forms and not a few as unrefined as ever still in the same manners still in their old natures in Esau's Cains and Ishmaels natures murdering Abell scoffing at Isaac hating yea hunting Jacob even from the very Prelatick party that reformed most immediatly from the thick fog of Romish false-worship to the Presbyterian whom they persecuted from them to the Independants whom they persecuted from them to the Baptists whom they persecuted and from them to the Ranters all which sorts though they are mad against each other yet as to the true tremblers at the word of God and Saints of the Lord in substance not so much in shew forme nor shadow and things without they all now come against these with one open mouth and as Edom Amelek Moab Ammon Midian Israels fleshly kindred against him even so all they that were formerly fighting quarrelling and disputing against each other now leave the battell they have among themselves and even make one head against the Quakers as they call them whom they all persecute with lyes and revilings and hatreds and hard censures and all the harsh usage and despite that possibly they can stumbling at every straw to the breaking of their own necks that they find amiss among them magnifying every mole-hill even every small matter and some things that they have but by hear-say and some things that they are mistaken in by meer mis-representation of them and some things that are flatly false too and in truth just nothing to make them even them among whom many if many as we know many will do prove worse then nought are glorious with the glory of Christ upon them full of grace and truth which was a glory ever unseen to the world as odious as they can even as the Divell himself in the eyes one of another The end of all which disjointed yet joint baiters and biters and abusers of Gods hidden ones whom though they hate yet they can neither hit nor hurt they being as secure as they are obscure having one life more then the world who may take away that of the body can either touch or come neer so as either to live in it or kill them out of it hid with Christ in God wil be to be hewed to pieces by Gods Prophets slain by the rod even the words of his mouth to be burnt up by the flaming breath of his lips and those coals sparks and tempests thunders and lightnings of his Law arising from the dead in their own consciences as a witness for God for ever and for ever against them according to that true and most plain prophecy that went before of old of these times these men and this matter 2 Esdras 13. which who so reads shall find it more lively now upon the Stage then ever and lastly to be consuming a while by the Spirit of his mouth speaking now here a little now there a little to them out of the mouth of Babes and stammerers and at last to be utterly destroyed by the brightness of his coming now then if these shall be still the best fruits of your fasts that Gods innocent ones his pretious ones his anointed and holy ones shall be hunted by you as a Partridge upon the Mountains and you abide still under new names and notions the old men in the old earthly sensuall cruell wrathfull and malicious nature in enmity against them that are created after Gods own Image in Righteousness and Holiness of truth and are brought forth into his own divine nature Then hear the word of the Lord ye Rulers of Sodom and give eare to it ye people of Gomorrah I will hide mine eyes from you saith the Lord and have no respect to your offering though it seem to the outward eye as Cains might do more gay and costly then that of Abell I will stop my ears and not hear your voice though it be as the voice of Jacob saith the Lord whilst your hands are the rough hands of Esau wherewith you cruelly and coursely handle your brethren and oppress them yea all your services shall be but a smoake in my Nose as a stink in my Nostrills saith the Lord I will spread dung upon your faces even the dung of your solemn meetings and you shall be taken away with it and howbeit you may reforme many things as Josiah did in whose dayes yet I raised up my Prophet Zephany to warn them and threaten them in my name to consume them because all things were not yet as they should be and the names of the Chemarins with the Priests were continued so will I bring a consumption upon all your earthly joy and glory saith the Lord and curse you and all your blessings if you do my work even the work of Reformation negligently and but by the halves even the Reformation of your own persons which in the first place I look for from you that are the powers in which works many whom your teachers will tell you had need be reformed are gone far beyond you and also the Reformation of the Nations wherein still they are not onely continued standing but also maintenance is forced from my own people that cannot own them for the Chemarims even for many black and smoaky Priests whilst my own Ministers whom I send unto you that desire not so much as maintenance from you cannot have so much as common countenance with other men and sometimes not so much as them that are malefactors indeed as these are onely accounted to be do and have obtained at your hands saith the Lord Now therefore thus saith the Lord take heed what ye do in this day the new wine is in the cluster see that you hurt it not for a blessing is in it there is a people gathering together whom I am redeeming from among all people Nations kindreds and tongues and taking one of a family two of a Tribe and bringing unto Sion who are asking the way thereunto with their faces thitherward