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A79534	A true discovery of the ignorance, blindness, and darkness of those who are called magistrates about Carlile in Cumberland, who call Light darkness, and truth error, and judge them blasphemers who are sent of the Lord to declare the eternal word of truth amongst them, but the Lord hath made himself manifest in the hearts of his people, and opened their eyes here in the northern parts, whereby they plainly see the tyranny, oppression, and cruelty of those who are called magistrates and rulers, who do imprison the servants of the most high God, for declaring against sin and abomination, held up in markets and steeple-houses, and so they that depart from iniquity and stand in obedience to the commands of the Lord, makes himself a prey to that generation; but the Lord is risen for Sions deliverance, all praise and glory be to him for evermore. J.C.	Camm, John, 1604?-1656.	1654 (1654)	Wing C393; Thomason E740_8; ESTC R202139	12,325	19

A True DISCOVERY Of the Ignorance Blindness and Darkness Of those Who are called Magistrates about Carlile in Cumberland who call Light Darkness and Truth Error and judge them blasphemers who are sent of the Lord to declare the eternal word of truth amongst them but the Lord hath made himself manifest in the hearts of his people and opened their eys here in the northern parts whereby they plainly see the Tyranny Oppression and Cruelty of those who are called Magistrates and Rulers who do imprison the servants of the most high God for declaring against sin and abomination held up in Markets and Steeple-houses and so they that depart from iniquity and stand in obedience to the Commands of the Lord makes himself a prey to that generation but the Lord is risen for Sions deliverance all Praise and Glory be to him for evermore J. C. LONDON Printed for G. Calvert 1654. A true discovery of the Ignorance Blindness and Darkness of those who are called Magistrates about Carlile in Cumberland HIm whom the world calls George Fox was moved of the Lord God of Heaven and Earth to go into Cumberland and the Lord let him see he had a people in it and was moved to go into Carlile and was moved to go into the Market and stept upon the side of the Cross and a grief came upon him to see the deceits and filthiness that the people lived in and he was moved to bid them lay away all deceitful Marchandise and cozening and cheating and bad them repent for the judgement day of the Lord is coming and other words as he passed up the streets afterwards he was moved to go up to the Castle to speak to the souldiers to shew them where their Teacher was and their condemnation was the light of Christ that hated it then upon the first day he was moved to go to the Steeple-house and he stayed till the Priest had done and the Priest passed a-away and then the rude multitude rose and there was a cry Down with the Roundheaded rogues ANd upon the second day of the week the Magistrates thereabouts they sent for him the said George and examined him and sent him to prison as the examination followeth Oh the oaths that is in the Land the Land mourns because of oaths and fighters strikers and drunkards and all manner of wickedness so that men if they can but have a kinde of a custom of preaching and telling what the Prophets and Apostles spoke And to have a fellow to have so much in the year to read it and expound it or preach it as they call it and people to come once a week to hear him so then after some to the Ale-house drinking and some fighting and swearing and cursing when many hath been moved of the Lord to go into their Assemblies and to speak what they have been moved of the Lord to speak in the time of their speaking some striking with Bibles some with fists some with stones and some haled to the stocks and before Magistrates and so to prison and say they have broken Queen Maries Law which Law guarded all the Papists and Jesuits which Law guards the Priests in England now so then you are under the popish act and his power which is to be condemned with the unlimited power which power should limit the spirit of the mighty God of Heaven and Earth who is setting up his own Law who will give liberty to the righteous seed I am moved to warn you to take heed how you make Laws to limit the holy Spirit of God if you do God will turn his sword against you and cut you down A friend of them whom the world calls Quakers when he was brought before the Rulers and Magistrates they asked him what was his name and he said it was hid from the world and the world knew it not and they asked him what his name was and he said they should never know it and then he was free to tell them what the world called him else he saw their deceit And he asked whether they should overcome sin as long as they were here upon the Earth and they said no so then he put them among the Papists in the Purgatory after death The Examination and Accusation of Geo. Fox THe Accusation of George Fox being the name as the world calls him by late of Drayton in Leicestershire taken at Carlisle the first of August saith as the world saith He was born in Leicestershire and that he is in perfect memory at this time and that he hath attained to perfection and that he hath been in Heaven and that there is but one Son of God and that he is risen and speaketh to us now here and that he doth not commit sin for he that is born of God sinneth not neither can he have any remorse for sin he that is born of God neither can he because he is born of God and the seed of God remaineth in him and that the Saints upon the Earth doth judge the hearts and that Thomas Cresters did sin in tempting him by propounding some Questions to him And he saith That the Bible is a Decsaration of the word of God and not the Word but God is the Word and that which he speaks is true Scripture and there is but One and that which he speaks is Truth and Eternal you shall witness it speaking to Wilfro Lawson and others then present And being demanded why he came into the place he said he was moved of the Lord of Heaven and Earth to speak to the Consciences of men and that particularly the words that he did speak did harden Thomas Cresters heart and that he now sees the face of God as wel as the faces of them that were present at this Examination he being asked why he continued in the meeting-place after he was wished to depart he said Whether is it better to obey God or man by the means to avoid tumuits and disorder being demanded likewise whether he would stay in this place he saith he must stay lo long as his Fathers Will is And when I began to declare against the deceits of the Priests and how they acted contrary to Christ I heard Make him a Mittimus And what I was moved of the Lord to come thither for where every one might have his Teacher and that in all Consciences should witness me eternally The Rulers wives were the first that persecuted in the Steeple-house and stirred up the rude multitude A Prisoner of the Lord at Carlisle and standing accused for witnessing forth that which the Saints witnessed And having a cloud of Scriptures to maintain nhe same that the ignorant and simple may see that it was the righteous seed that ever suffered by the unrighteous seed of evil doers which suffers so Accusation 1. ANd for that I am accused for saying I was in Heaven which I have many witnesses in the Scriptures as followeth Paul said he was caught up into the third

the form of the Prophets and Holy men of God conditions but not the life as you have now the form of Christ the Prophets and Apostles for had you had the life of Jesus Christ you would have owned him whom you persecuted but kept peace or had you owned the Law of God which was made for sinners you would not have imprisoned the just who in love for your souls good came to declare the Truth to you whom you put him under a cruel Tyrant Jaylors hand who strook him in prison when he spoke not a word to him And as for speaking to Willfro Lawson and them that was present what he spoke was true Scripture and the Scripture was but one it all being given forth by the inspiration of the Spirit and the Spirit is but one that gave it forth and the holy Ghost is but one which the holy men of God was moved to speak it from now you that have not this Spirit and the holy Ghost persecute them who are in the one Life and with the one Spirit owns it to be one and such as you persecute them that witness it as your fathers did which gave it forth To the light which Christ hath enlightned every one of you withal I speak which lets you see your evil deeds which you love it it will bring you to repentance of what you have done which light will guide your mindes up to God which if you hate it you hate God and Christ then this light is your condemnation and to you this is true Scripture and the light in your conscience will witness what I speak for you that hate it hate me but it is no marvel for the world ever hated the son of God where he was made manifest as you may read in John there let the Scripture it self judge you And as for saying He was moved of the Lord to speak to that in the consciences of men Holy men of God spake as they was moved by the holy Ghost and the Ministers of God are made manifest to that of God in mans consciences And here again you have cleared your selves from the holy Ghost and the Ministers of the Spirit which ministers to the spirit in prison Oh that ever men should profess the Scripture and persecute the life where it is made manifest but no other fruit is looked from such trees but the Lord is coming to hew down all tree that have cumbred the ground but with the life that gave forth the Scriptures shall you all be judged that act contrary to that in your conscience for to that I speak and that is it which shall witness me and condemn you that hate it As for saying It was better to obey God and man Did not the Apostles ask the same question when they was brought before Magistrates which witnessed forth Christ and they was haled out of the Synagogues and Prisoned and haled before Magistrates And have not you Magistrates shewed your selves to be in the same nature to prison and persecute and slander the innocent And let all see that you have acted contrary to the Scripture and that your wills would be obeyed who prisons him that doth obey God and let the Scripture it self judge you And for asking him How long he could stay in that place his Answer was As long as his Fathers will was And there again you do shew you are acting contrary to the Scripture and the Apostles doctrine who taught the people to say If God will and to stand in his will let the Scripture it self judge you And for saying to avoid disorder where is the power that is terror to evil doers where is the Authoty that keeps in order Oh for shame never profess your selves to be Magistrates had you heard him spoken or acted any thing contrary to the Law then your Law might have been said upon but you but you prisoned him contrary to Law but only your own wills so the just Law of God will take hold upon you and vengeance is the Lords and he will repay it A Discovery of the present practise of the Profession in ENGLAND OH England thou that hast professed the Scripture that which Moses wrote the Law that which the Prophets which was sent of the Lord spake forth that which John Baptist preached which was a burning and shining light that which Christ Jesus the substance of all when he was upon earth and that that he spake after his Resurrection and that that the Apostles spake which was sent of him to preach unto all Nations And thou makes a Profession of what the Apostles wrote to the Saints of God which was come out of the world and which was not of the world of whom the end of the world was come And of them that was come to the General Assemblies of the First-born which are written in heaven and to God the Judge of all and to the spirits of just men made perfect all these you make a profession of in words and your Teachers give meanings to them with their carnal mindes of the outward Letter which was spoken from the life For those that did speak them did possess and enjoy what they spake but you are ignorant of the life of them for where the life of them is made manifest them you do persecute beat and stock and hail to prison as all your generation of professors of an outward thing ever did who knew nothing of the inward O be ashamed and blush and tremble before the Lord God who hath so long worshipped the beast and given all your glory and honor to the beast not knowing the living God nor the first principle that leads to life And that your Leaders and Teachers denies the light which Christ Jesus saith he hath enlightned every one that comes into the world with all And that the power of the Lord which causes trembling and quaking which all the holy men of God that ever heard the voyce of God which is terrible which shakes the earth ever witnessed while the earth was standing in them And this you call Impostures and Delusions and of the Devil which makes manifest that you know nothing of God nor never heard his voyce nor seen his face Oh woful and miserable is your condition which wars against the living God your condition is more miserable then any that ever went before you You say you have the word of God and that which you call your word is a Declaration of the eternal Word which Christ and the Apostles spake forth Christ Jesus said I go and prepare a place for you I will come again and receive you unto my self that where I am there you may be also Jesus Christ saith I am the resurrection and the life and he said Glorifie thy son that thy son also may glorifie thee and as thou hast given him power over all flesh that he may give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him Now if any come to witness

taught them and when he is come again must he not speak and where he is made manifest and be King and rule That Christ that dyed at Jerusalem and if it be any other Christ but that Christ he is Antichrist for Christ is but one in all his Saints the same Christ yesterday to day and for ever And Saul Saul why persecutest thou me for it was that Christ that was risen that said he was persecuted he is the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world I was in prison and I was sick and ye visited me not hungry and naked and ye clothed me not but as much as ye did it not to one of these little ones ye did it not unto me And it s the spirit of your Father that speaketh in you and except ye have the same spirit that raised up Christ from the dead ye are none of his And if you have the same spirit must not that spirit speak Christ in you the hope of glory which is the mystery which is hid from Ages and Generations but now is made manifest the same Christ as ever was and must not this Christ speak where he is made manifest or must he be dumb The son of perdition in man which is exalted above all that is called God he would not have the one Christ to regn and speak which is in all his Saints who is the head of the man and must not the head of the man speak but where the Prince of the Ayr rules and the Son of perdition above all that is called God they have a prison to put Christ into where he speaks who disobeys the light of Christ in them and imprisons it they are the hypocrite Pharisees Rulers and chief Priests which under colour and profession of Christ and God yet they are the enemies to the Son of God and imprisons him thus where he is made manifest and they that were then against Christ they are the same against him now in Nature for Christ to day yesterday and for ever is witnessed Accusation 6. Because I said the Bible was not the word of God God is the Word Joh. 1.1 it is but a declaration of the Word and the word was God and the word was made flesh and dwelt amongst us This was not the Letter and the Letter saith the word is sharper then a two-edged sword he doth not say the Bible is sharper then a two-edged sword Heb. 4.12 And Jeremiah saith the word is as a hammer and a fire but he doth not say the Letter is a hammer and a fire but the Letter saith the Word is so so you blaspheme in saying the Bible is the Word and sets it up before God who is the Word and was before the Letter was Accusation 7. Because I said I had no remorse for sin and that the Saints judged the hearts He that is born of God sinneth not what remorse for sin can there be in him which doth not commit sin love thinketh no evil so it cannot have remorse for that it thinketh not and a good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit and as he is so are we in this present world and he that doth righteousness is righteous even as he is righteous Heb. 10.17 18. Their sins and iniquities will I remember no more now where remission is there is no Sacrifice for sin and here you shew your selves ignorant of the Scripture as you may 1 Cor. 14.24.25 Job 21.27 Christ saith judge not by outward appearance but with righteous judgement and the Apostle saith the Saints shall judge the world and Solomon saith he hath set the work in their hearts Hos 4. they set their hearts on iniquity there he judged their iniquity Ezekiel Judges the heart 14.13 the Lord let him see their hearts Stephen judged their hearts Act. 7. and here you shew your selves ignorant of the Scripture and the life that gave them forth Examination 8. And whereas I said my words hardened Cresters heart which the event of it did shew forth when the Apostles did speak of the things concerning the Kingdom of God divers were hardened and believed not but speak evil of that way Act. 19.8 9. As you do now is this Scripture fulfilled and was not Cresters and the rest hardened Pharoah-like who imprisoned the just for telling the truth Accusation 9. Because I said I was perfect Noah was perfect in his Generation Gen. 6.9 And that ye stand perfect and compleat in the will of God for by one Offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified The Apostle said he spoke wisdom among them that were perfect as many as are perfect be thus minded the Apostle did not bid imprison them now see how contrary you walk to Scripture rule who imprisons him that saith he is perfect if they which gave forth the Scriptures were here you would imprisom them and Christ saith be you perfect as your Father which is in Heaven is perfect and every one that is perfect must be as his Lord and as he is so are we in this present world Coll. 4.12 Heb. 10.4 1 Cor. 2.9 Phil. 3.15 Matth. 5.48 And for saying there was but one son of God The Son of God is but one in all the Saints male and female Christ all in all And the son it is that makes free and all that is made free by this son and all that hath the Son of God hath life and all that hath not this Son of God hath not life and here you shew that you are ignorant of the Scriptures and of this Christ this Son of God which you have long professed in words that makes so many Sects amongst you but now persecutes him and imprisons him wher he is manifest why persecutest thou me saith Jesus for them that witnessed Jesus was brought out of the Jewish Synagogues and Temple and they haled them out and persecuted them as you do no now who witnessed the substance And they must come of the Priests and witnessed the unchangable Priesthood Christ Jesus so now they who do witness the unchangeable Priesthood and are brought of the worlds Assemblies which hath the form and to them holds forth the power such as are haled forth of the Synagogues and imprisoned with you who have the form as your Fathers had And for that which was said the Son of God spake to them there and is risen Where the Son of God is made manifest must he not speak here you have shewed forth your selves he that is born after the flesh persecutes him that is born after the Spirit and persecntes him and prisons him and here you yave shewed that you prison the son of God here see if your Laws be not your Wills as the Jews was against Christ and be ye witnesses against your selves know ye not that Christ is in you except ye be reprobates And as for saying Thomas Crester tempted him did not they who was out of the Truth tempt the son of God who had

the Resurrection of the dead or eternal life or witness Christ come again or the Holy Ghost as the Apostles did or witness the Son of God made manifest him you beat stock stone imprison hale before Magistrates persecute as vagabonds and wanderers and many saith that whosoever kills them they do God good service and there the Scripture is fulfilled on you And see now what your faith is in this you call your word when you do not believe it when you see it fulfilled nay ye are more cruel then the Scribes and Pharisees was which crucified Jesus Christ for they looked for a Christ because the Prophets had prophesied on him but when he came they did not know him but asked him If he was the Christ but now you profess Christ come in the flesh and Christs Resurrection and the Resurrection of the body as the Scripture mentions and you say it is so because the Letter saith it is so though you know nothing of the Resurrection of the dead but denies the first principle the light that leads to life and to the Resurrection and death reigns in you that hath passed over all men and you are looking without you saying Lo here is Christ and lo there contrary to Christs Command and there that prophesie of Christ is fulfilled upon you who saith the Kingdom of heaven cometh not with observations but the kingdom of heaven is in you and you are persecuting them whom Christ hath enlightned and who witnesses the Scriptures as as they speak who bears testimony to the truth of them And here you are found lyars and sayers but not doers as the Scribes and Pharisees were that Christ cryed wo against and here you are without all example or president that ever was since the creation that a people should professe a thing and persecute and imprison those that possesses the same that you professe And here you are above all cruelty and tyranny that ever was but you are given up to hardnesse of heart and blindenesse and your Leaders and Teachers have erred from the Lord though they have professed the words of Christ where it will make for their own ends and purposes yet they deny the light which Christ saith he hath enlightned every one with that comes into the world which is the light of the conscience which is in every man which they say is natural and here they keep people from the first principle that leads into truth and into obedience of the Lord. And they deny Revelations and so denies Jesus Christ though Jesus Christ saith That none knows the father but the son and he to whom he doth reveal him and so you keep poor people strangers from the life of God and they deny perfection and cleansing from sin while they are here though Jesus Christ saith Be ye perfect as your heavenly father is perfect and by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified and the Scripture witnesses the cleansing of the Saints all along and the perfecting of them according to their growth but poor people are kept in blindness and ignorance with hearkning to their filthy inventions and blind imaginations and meanings that they give to the Scripture when no prophesie of it came not by the will of man but the Lord God of power and life is found true and all them are found to be lyars eternal praises be unto his name for ever For Christ Jesus is risen and the Son is revealed and the blood of Jesus Christ is witnessed which cleanseth from all sin And the Eternal Spirit of Life is witnessed which all the blind guides are ignorant of praises praises be to the Lord God for ever Therefore all people every where if you would know the living God hearken to the light in your consciences which convinceth you and lets you see sin and evil and checks you when you do wrong let that lead and guide your mind and that will lead you to God who is the Father of light turn your minds within and keep close to the light in your conscience there is your Teacher and that is it and if you do not obey it that will be your eternal condemnation so if you love your souls hearken diligently unto that and your soul shall live and spend not your money for that which is not bread nor go not after your blind Guides for they know not what the soul is nor where it is but one saith this is the soul another saith that is the soul nor none of them knows that they have a soul nor cannot witness a living soul but they are them that makes merchandize of souls Therefore beware of them as you love your souls and go not after them now you have time prize it and if you love the light which Christ hath enlightened you withal you love your souls and if you hate this light which would keep your mindes up to God you hate your souls IF any one in Westmerland or Cumberland or elsewhere that owns the truth have a love to Christ and owns his light which he hath enlightened every one that comes into the world with all and hath a love to God and are not satisfied in the things of God with him whom the world calls George Fox hath spoken and declared forth let them declare it and publish it in writing and not to backbite nor lye nor persecute in secret this I demand and command of you all in the presence of the living God as you will answer it in the presence of the living God For the exaltation of the truth and the confounding of the deceit is this given forth that truth may be exalted and deceit confounded to that of God in the Consciences I speak declare or write it to any of them whom you call Quakers that truth may be exalted and all things come to the light which Christ hath enlightned every one with that comes into the world and that nothing should be hid in darkness prisons or holes or corners that all things may come to the light of Christ and tryed with the light of Christ this was I moved of the Lord to write forth to be set on the Crosses in Westmerland and elsewhere To the light of Christ in you I speak that none of you may speak evil of the things of God you know not lest you be found fighters against God and the hand of the Lord be turned against you and not to act contrary to the light that gave forth the Scriptures FINIS