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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A77972	The vvalls of Ierico razed down to the ground. Or, An answer to a lying book, called the Quaking principles dashed in peices [sic]: wherein one called Henoch Howett, which goes under the name of an Anabahtist [sic], doth falsely accuse, and maliciously belye us; his seven principles which he calls ours, I shall lay down, and what we own is vindicated, and what he hath belyed the truth in, is turned upon his own head. / By one who is zealous for the name of the Lord of Hostes, called Edward Burrough.	Burrough, Edward, 1634-1662.	1654 (1654)	Wing B6056A; ESTC R170173	16,554	17

written and further thy envy and shame is made manifest that thou would accuse and yet thou saith whatsoever they call the word it is perfectly false and not truth here thou would judge and yet thou cannot tell what we call the Word but at last concludes its false whatever it be and here thou blasphemes and cals Christ Jesus in whom is all truth false for no other word I own but Christ and the Scripture speaks of no word of God but one and thou that would make the Letter the Word it self shall judge thee and thou makes much mincing and arguments in thy carnal reason and saith the ground of error is ignorance of the Scripture and thou brings Mark and Matthew alas I know what Mark and Matthew wrote is true if thou had an ear to hear the ground of all error is because he is not known nor his voice whom the Scripture bear record of and thou saith we drive men into darkness that works upon people to disesteem the Scripture and perswades people to an uslessness of the Scriptures let all that have heard us in the City of London or elsewhere speak if they heard us say the Scriture was usless or did disesteem it but on the contrary we exhorted them to search if the Scripture did not bear witness to those things we declared and so let shame cover thy face thou falfe accuser and thou brings 2 Tim. 3.17 that it is for the perfecting the man of God and that its profitable to correct and instruct this is owned but it s not the man of God thou would have perfected by it but such hirelings as thy self hath been and false accusers as thou art and I say it is profitable to us to reprove thee and correct thee and read thy portion a lyars portion is in the lake and as Rom. 15.4 it s not denyed but as Christ Iesus is witnessed who is the Comforter whlch the Scripture bears witness of there is comfort and hope and thou saith the Scripture proves the New birth and teacheth perseverance to the end it bears testimony of some that did witness the New birth and that persevered unto the end but what is this to thee that never came one step in th● way and as for promises there is no promise but condemnation in the Scripture in such as thee and read it the lyar and false accuser and the envious shall not inhererit the Kingdom of God and their own thy promise and thy portion 2. Particular which thou cals a mistake that is speaking to a thing within thee I would fain know what can be meant of the thing within men for there is nothing to be spoken to in man but man Answ Here thy igno●ance shame and envy is made manifest that thou that hath pretended to be a Minister and a Pastor of a Church and cannot tell what thou hath spoke to what hath thou ministered to the wind or hast thou ministered to the devil and preached glad tidings to him who is in the transgression and free grace to him that hath walked contrary to God it is so and therefore thou and al● who are in that nature knows not what you speak and therefore none hath been at all profited by your Ministery and blessed be the Lord that its hid from the eyes of the wise and revealed to babes and thy envious spirit is seen that it is of thy father the Devil who is the accuser of the Brethren that would lay a thing down as an error and tels of dashing in peices our principles and yet knows not what it is nor what we speak dost thou accuse and knows not for what let shame cover thy face that ever thou should put pen to paper or speak of God or Christ and speaks thou knows not what and th●n thou hath hatched a thing and concludes there is nothing in man to be spoken to but man and before thou knew not and so art in confusion for Christ and his Apostles always spoke to man thou saith the Apostle saith he went and ministered to the Spirits in prison and to open the blind eye and to raise the dead and the dead should hear the voice of the Son of God and live and he preached liberty to the captive and is given for a covenant to open the blind eyes and unstop the deaf ears and make the lame to walk if thou hast an ear thou may hear but not to feed thy serpents wisdom do I speak I will shut thee out for into it thou cannot enter but through death and death wrote the book and the Apostles were made manifest to every mans conscience in the sight of God and the slothful servant had a talent given to improve which was anothers and not his own and that was required of him and that will God require of man and unto that we speak which hears us and shall witness us eternally even that which is not in the transgression neither is of man but is given to man to improve and ye● is not far from man but this is a mysterie and it shall be sealed for without a parable spoke he not to such as thou art and I know this is a parable but in the end thou saith thou knows not how they can speak to any light in man distinct from him unless they speak unto Satan or some of his legions here again thy shame and ignorance is made manifest we speak to the ear and the eye in man which the God of the world hath blinded and this is not of man and yet is not far from man but distinct that is thy own word I do not own it bring forth the blind that hath eyes and the deaf that hath ears did the Prophets speak to the devil in man we speak to the witness of God in man and according to this shall all be judged if thou hast an ear thou may hear oh thou blasphemer dost thou call that which may be known of God which is manifest on Rom. 2. dost thou call this a Legion of Devils even that which declares the eternal power and Godhead but thou art he that calls the Master of the house Beelsibub and in that nature thou art and the Lord will rebuke 3. Principle That thou cals a mistake that is the denying the use of reason in the matters of God calling it serpentine Answ The world by wisdome knowes not God and all the disputing and twining and lavishing of the wisdome of man and that which thou cals reason it is corrupted and is shut out and who lives in that nature are the unreasonable men that hath not faith now he that hath not faith hath not reason and he that hath faith hath the witness in himself but I see thee thy witness is without thee and so thou speaks unreasonably and all that would understand the mysteries of the Kingdome must come through death for light shines in darkness but darkness cannot comprehend it and therefore one

cryes loe here and loe there and with that which thou cals reason is Scripture torn asunder and strife and contention and endless disputes and striving for Mastery which is carnal and all this we deny And thou saith upon this ground they will not do as the Apostles and Christ himself who disputed with the gainsayers Ioh. 6. and Stephen Acts 6. and thou brings in some of the Synagogue of Libertines and Syrenians and Alexandrians and the rest and disputed with Stephen and they were not able to resist him let many hundreds of this City of London both in publike and in private bear witness against if we have not disputed and hath not been ready to give an answer to the gainsayers though not such a one as they desired even as Christ our Master did not answer the Iews in their subtil tempting of him and of those Sects that encountred both Stephen and Paul truly I must needs say unto thee we have met with the same generation in this City whereof thou art one and truly more subtil then they were but in the eternal light you are all seen and many though they could not gainsay yet have resisted us and after a little thou saith thou pleads not for carnal reason for this will not suffer any to follow Christ further then they can carry their own things their honours pleasures ease and lusts to that in thy conscience I speak whether this doth not rule thee and guide thee it will let thee see thou art pleading for honour and respecting mens persons and hath them in admiration because of advantage and brings the example of others to prove and uphold thy deceit which they were neither commanded nor commended for to oppose the commands of Christ and the express Scripture and thou goes on further and saith God is the author of memory and wisdome and reason but I tell thee there is a wisdom and a reason that God will confound for by faith we know the heavens were made and see them upholden and by faith all things is brought to our remembrance and it is the light that convinceth of sin even the light of Christ and so in the eternal light I see what thou pleads for for eating of the tree of knowledge and there thou art till thou art become a fool and die to that reason thou shalt never eat of the tree of life and therefore flesh be silent and thou saith thou doth not allow that reason that gets only a conclusion or an argument instead of Christ and after thou saith the day is yet to dawn and the day star to arise and thou pryes violently for it and here what hath thou more for an assurance of thy salvation then an argument and a conclusion instead of Christ for thou confesses the day is not dawned and then thou art yet in the night and in darkness for the day dawns and the day star arises before Christ be witnessed but thou knows no such thing as either Christ or the dawning if thou had not others testimony and that is without and thou art one Christ spoke of since Iohn the Kingdome suffers violence and many thrust into it and thou art striving and art violent but I say thou shalt not be able till thou lay down thy contending in thy carnal wisdom and striving and resisting but thou must become a fool and sit at Iesus feet but thou art full and rich and hole and need no Physitian and therefore thou must be sent empty away and when the book of conscience shall be opened thou shalt be judged for what thou hath done against the innocent Now something in Answer to the fourth particular Which thou sayest is a tenent held forth by the Northern people which is a denying of the assention and being of the body of Christ Answ O thou enemy of righteousness when wilt thou cease to pervert the right way of God who uttereth thy lies and slanders against the Innocent God shall judge thee and between thee and us whether thou hast not uttered lyes and false accusations in the name of the Lord and put forth in writing unto the world for truth that which is absolutely contrary unto the Truth God will reward thee thou full of subtilty according to thy deeds who takes part with the Dragon against the Lamb and goes about by thy lying slanders to rend the way of truth which thou canst not comprehend in thy serpents wisdome odious unto all men but God taketh our part against thee and will dash thy lyes and slanders and thy Impudent forehead in pieces even by that power which make the earth to quake and tremble which is become a reproach unto this generation many who have heard us since we came to this City though our enemies shall witness against thee and for us in this particular for we have oft witnessed forth and I do here again witness forth in the sight of God and men that Christ Iesus is risen and ascended far above all principalities and powers and the same which descended into the lower parts o●●he earth is also ascended and raigns over all subjecting all unto him●●lf that he may be Lord over all and in all and may be glorified by all and members of his body we are who thou enviously rails against ●nd wit●esses of the body we are whereof Christ Iesus is head and because ●f ●he resurrection of the dead body which is ascended we are call●d i● question and all Sects and opinions are troubled and on an uproar ●●●ce●●in● us and I tell thee plainly we are so far from denying the asc●nsion and being of the body of Christ that because of being called to ●●●●ess i● as being members of it we are persecuted and reviled by such 〈◊〉 thy self whose carnal conceptions and imaginations of truth we do deny and doth testifie unto you all that though death is the resurrection and ascension witnessed and every one that reads the Scripture is not witnesses of the resurrection of the body of Christ and all whose witness is onely without them other mens words which had the witnesse within them we deny to be true witnesses but are found false witnesses of the resurrection and of the ascension and knows not Christ nor his body but by hearsay and whereas thou brings many Scriptures to prove his resurrection and ascension I answer the Scriptures we own to be a true declaration of the witnesse which was in the Apostles of the resurrection and of the ascension of Christ but thee we deny who art found a lyar and a slanderer and thy resurrection will be unto condemnation and thy ascension will prove a descending into the bottomless pit for ever to be tormented except thou repent and from the life of the holy men of God thou art razed out who art found in the way of ungodliness and thou hast nothing to do to profess their words who art out of their life nor no inheritance in their words but as thou

civility and unseemly actions shall stand for thy own condition they are such as thy self who commits unseemly brawling and folly and vain contending against the truth in Glasiers hall as many honest hearted will witness against you and for us who have seen your base actions as scorning and flowting in that place and so here you your selves are guilty of the wantonness which Peter speaks of and of aluring through the lusts of the flesh which thou slanderously would cast upon us and thou further sayest none ever premised to themselves so much liberty as these and the Ranters in being freed from the power and tryal of the Word I answer both the Ranters and thee we do absolutely deny and testifie against you both to be in the enmity against God and against us who are his servants thou before was ranking us with the Papists and now among the Ranters but herein the Scripture is fulfilled upon us as they h●ve done unto Christ so they do unto us he was numbered among transgressors by thy generation of painted Sepulchers and whited walles as we are by thee and all liberty which is of the flesh and to the flesh we do deny as many can witness who are witnesses of our Ministery and again I say he that is able let him try us by the Scripture but thou art blind and hath hardened thy heart against God and hath neither salt nor savory and so is good for nothing but to be trodden under foot And wh●reas thou sayest the Lord bless every one of his from the condition of Chandler who formerly was the head of a Company of Shakers I answer The day is coming when thou canst not fly the wrath of God though thou pray God will not hear thee and if ever thou hast seen Chandler in this condition thou might have read thy figure in him weeping and ●●w●●ng and gnashing of teeth will be thy portion for ever and I say unto the●●●is condi●●o● of Chandlers is not come up●n him because he w●s o●ce a Sh●●e● by the d●e●d of the Lord upon him but because he went out from that condition out of the fear of God into the libe●ty of the flesh out of his shaking and fearing state which once he was in and this he shall witness with me to be true and against thee who would reproach the way of truth by him when the book of conscience is opened And whereas thou further sayest th●ir spirit w●●l perswade them that they are not fallen from righteousnesse and would therefore justifie them I answer We are gathered up into righteousness and fallen from vanity and this the Spirit of God perswades us and witnesseth in us and for us by which onely we are justified freely and not by the works of the law nor by any outward observance and herein thou also art a lyar who s●ith we are fallen from righteousness for even the righteousness of God is manifested to us by which we deny all your carnal outward observances by which you think to obtain life and righteousness Now in answer to thy sixt Particular which thou calls a heavy and sad offence which is a denying honour to men which thou saist is the example of good men to which I doe answer God hath commanded to h●nour him alone and not to bow down to any Creature and thou h●st brought m●ny Scriptures to oppose the command of God and so art more fully made manifest to be an enemy unto him which would plead against him by that which is written from him pleading the example of good men which is no example to us to break the command of God no more then Davids example in committing whoredom and Iosephs example in swearing by the life of Pharoah is an example for any to act those things now and I do utterly deny that any of these Scriptures which thou hast cited will prove and maintain your heathenish custome in your deceitfull way of honouring one another to please the divel in one another which is without the fear of God and it is a sad offence to none but the divel because it weakens and disturbs his kingdome of which thou art as is made manifest who pleads to uphold it from the Scripture but vain honour with flattering titles unto any man we do deny but yet we honour all men in the Lord and out of him we honour none to uphold the pride of man for God will bring it all down and lay it in the dust and exalt himself to reign over you all and whereas thou sayest how far are these men from the holy Writt To which I say and answer thou slanderously would make us to appear odious in the sight of men but all the upright in heart will see thee and thy blindness and ignorance who brings that Scripture where Christ in fulfilling the Law of God which he came to fulfil worshipped in the Temple to prove and maintain the worship of man Answ O you blind Pharisee and perverter of the Scripture God will plague thee thou enemy of his truth who perverts the Scripture to thy own destruction and art worse then the Pharisees who said he respected no mans person and they shall witness against thee and whereas thou speaks of honouring father and mother which thou sayest we deny in this our practice I answer I charge thee to be a lyar for as I said we honour all men in the Lord and directs all children and servants to obey their parents and masters in the Lord and this m●ny can witness for us which have more frequented our assemblies then thou hast done but this we also testifie where the obedience to any man stands in opposition to God the obedience to God is rather to be chosen and herein he that will not hate father or mother for Christ● sake is not worthy of him but thou carnal earthly man is pleading for the Kingdome of the Divel to honour man above God and I say how can you believe that seeks honour one of another your honour and your heathenish custome we testifie against yet unto every ordinance of man we are subject for conscience sake Now to that which you call the seventh mistake affording absolute perfection at one Instant in admitting of none but perfect men into conjunction Answ It is a mistake in thee for such a word never proceeded fr●m us I may say it is rather an absolute lye invented by thee to make us odious then a mistake from us for thy heart is desperately wicked and thy torment is kindling by the breath of the Almigh●y many which have heard us will testifie against thee for we say the Saints have their growth up into a perfect man in Christ as Christ himself had and we say also their is children and young men and fathers as the Apostle said but thou art not ashamed to utter thy lies and slanders which hundreds in this Ci●y will witness against thee for a lyar and even thy light in thy