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A75768	Ishmael, and his mother, cast out into the wilderness, amongst the wild beasts of the same nature: or, a reply to a book entitulled, The scriptures proved to be the word of God, put forth by one of Ishmaels children, who calls himself a minister of the Gospel, and a pastor of S. Austins and Savours parish in Norwich; but is clearly made manifest by the light of God in his servants, to be a scoffer, and an enemy to the Gospel, which the saints of God are ministers of, and sufferers for, by such as hee is, who Ishmael-like, hath laid his folly open, and is discovered to the faithful, who are of Abraham, and of the seed of promise. Also, a cleer distinction between the minsters of Christ, who are of the seed of Abraham, and the priests of this generation, who are of Ishmaels root; who with the truth are plainly made manifest, by the light of Christ in us, who for the testimony of God do suffer by the sons of Hagar, and this generation of priests in Notwich [sic]: ... / Given forth from the spirit of the Lord in us that do suffer in the goal of Norwich for the truths sake, ... Christopher Atkinson, George Whitehead, Iames Lancaster, Thomas Simonds.	Atkinson, Christopher.	1655 (1655)	Wing A4127; Thomason E830_3; ESTC R207430	13,494	15

ISHMAEL And his MOTHER Cast out into the WILDERNESS Amongst the Wild Beasts of the same NATURE OR A Reply to a Book entitulled The Scriptures proved to be the word of God put forth by one of Ishmaels children who calls himself a Minister of the Gospel and a Pastor of S. Austins and Savours Parish in Norwich but is clearly made manifest by the light of God in his Servants to be a scoffer and an enemy to the Gospel which the Saints of God are Ministers of and sufferers for by such as hee is who Ishmael-like hath laid his folly open and is discovered to the faithful who are of Abraham and of the seed of Promise ALSO A cleer distinction between the Ministers of Christ who are of the seed of Abraham and the Priests of this generation who are of Ishmaels root who with the Truth are plainly made manifest by the light of Christ in us who for the testimony of God do suffer by the sons of Hagar and this generation of the Priests in Norwich Given forth for no other end but that the truth may be cleered from such as scoff and deny it Given forth from the Spirit of the Lord in us that do suffer in the Goal of Norwich for the truths sake which is persecuted and slandered by the Priesis and Rulers of this City VVhose names in the flesh is Christopher Atkinson George Whitehead Iames Lancaster Thomas Simonds London Printed for Giles Calvert at the black Spread-Eagle at the West end of Pauls 1655. A bundle of papers being brought unto our hands by one of the chiefe Priests of Norwich which he hath rak't up in his imaginations against the harmless people called Quakers and being full of lyes and deceit we are moved of the Lord for the truthes sake to cleare the truth from his lyes and deceit and false accusations and to lay him and his two propositions as hee calls them open unto the simple minded who have been bewitched and deceived by such deceivers and blind guides as he is and put forth by one Sampson Townsend who calls himself a Minister of the Gospel and a Pastor of Saint Austins Savours Parish in Norwich Priest THE Title of thy confused papers is The Scripture proved to be the word of God as also the only foundation of faith and rule of our obedience or a clear conviction of the errors of the quakers who blasphemously affirm that the Scriptures are not the word of God nor the foundation of Faith nor yet the only rule of our obedence to which lyes and falshoods we are moved to answer Answer THe Scriptures proved to be the word of God is false and one of the blind deceitful imaginations which thousand thy generation hath deceived people with telling them that that is the word which saith that God is the word who made himself manifest in the dayes of old before the Letter was which word was Moses rule who wrote forth Scripture and not the Letter but the word which word by which Moses was guided to speak forth Scripture and this is that word the Prophets prophesied of which dwelt amongst us which was before the world was and seen before the Letter was written now with the same life and power by which the Scripture was spoken do we challenge thee to prove such a Scripture as saith that it is the word of God thou that would make people believe that the Letter is the foundation would make void the foundation upon which the Prophets and Apostles were builded which spoke forth the Letter and thou that would build upon the Letter hateth the Light and the Foundation which is Christ from which the letter was spoken and thy foundation and thy rule and obedience is tryed with it and by it thou art judged now that which is convicted by thy ayrie spirit is like unto thy selfe and is to be scorched up as the bryars but the children of light who are of God and in the truth cannot be convicted by such as thou art who from the light of God in thy Conscience is departed and with it art to be coudemned so with the word and the life by which the Letter was declared thou art seen and comprehended to be an enemy unto that from which the Scripture was declared and here again I challenge thee to be a perverter of it notwithstanding al thy prosession from it and whereas thou hast directed this confused paper unto us of whom thou hast described the names as followeth to Christopher Atkinson Iames Lancaster George VVhitehead and Thomas Simonds now in Norwich Goale for their Errours and Miscarriages Priest Thou sayest if ever the truth of God were turned into a lye it is by us thou sayest that deny the Scriptures to be the Truth of God and pretend immediate Revelations to be our rule for our actions and canst not produce any proofe but the words of a dead man like thy selfe which thou calls Mr. Burroughs to which we answer Ans By thee Priest Townsend is the truth of God turned into a lye thou art taken with one in thy mouth who saith that we before mentioned are in the Goal of Norwich for errors and miscarriages here thou slanderer we challeng thee to prove what errors or miscarriages can be laid to our charge what is thy lyes and slanders that which you would make the people believe and are we counted deceivers for declaring the Truth and testifying against thee and thy generations as it is counted an error in us to unvail thy deceits and lay thee open to all men here in the presence of the Lord do we declare against thee for errors and miscarriages do we deny and this thy confused stuff wherein fyrst thou sayest that we deny the Scripture to be the truth of God which is a lye as thy own words makes it manifest who in the same page of thy shamelels discourse which now is laid open to the understanding of the Simple Priest And again thou sayest that we atknowledg the Scripture to be the truth and yet deny them to be the word of God here let all that sees thy confused paper judge thee who art in Babel where the confnsion is and a minister of it Ans The Scripture we own as it was spoken forth by them that lived in the word and receive it as a Declaration of God and of what he spoke unto them of former ages Luke i. i. but thy words and imaginations we do deny who would call that the word which saith God is the word and that the light which is not the light but saith Christ is the light which is thy condemnation that hates it in particular and the worlds condemnation that hates it in generall as is made manifest who hates revelations and us who witness it shutting thy selfe forth from the Scriptures and from them that gave them forth whereas Christ saith no man knows the Father but the Son and to whom the Son wil reveal him

as thou may read Mat. ii 27. here thou hast plainly shewn thy self to be both without the knowledge of the Father and the Son who art in thy mediate naturall knowledge which from the light which comes from Christ is erred and with it to be condemned thou dreamer what hast thou to do to profess thy selfe a Minister of the Gospel who art but yet in thy mediate natural conceivings when the naturall man knows not the things of God for they are Spiritually discerned so we from God is unto thee thou deceiver who would make people believe that that which is naturall and carnall is the foundation of Faith and obedience and so would bewitch people with thy lyes to draw them from the annointing within to obscure something without them as they did that would have drawn away the Galathians from the Spirit as thou mayest read Galath 3. Priest And whereas thou sayest in the third Page that thou wilt reason with us and tells ùs that we did acknowledg the Scripture to be truth which in the page before thou did deny and thus is making thy folly manifest who saith that it is our judgment that we are perfect and free from Sin which thou never heard us affirm but these thy lyes will clearly be made manifest by the Scriptures which thou calls thy foundation of faith only rule of obedience by which thou shalt be judged for Christ saith unto them whom he taught be yee perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect Matthew 5.28 Ans But thou and thy generation hates this and sayes that there is no perfection to be attained here Oh thou blinde guide did Christ ever command any thing that might not be accomplished or did he speak of being perfect not till after death here thou dost deny the very end for which Christ came who came to take away Sin and in him is no Sin Mat. i. 2i i Iohn 3.3 4 5 6. and i Iohn 5. i8 here thou hast plainly made it manifest that thou art without Christ and his knowledg and in Antichrist now what the Scripture speaks in our meafure do we witness concerning these things and thee we do deny and all thy generation thou enemy of God who doth pervert the Scriptures and wrest them to thy destruction and here with the light that never changed art thou to be condemned from God and all the Children of God Priest Another of thy lyes is made evident thou slanderer who art not ashamed impudently to affirm that we deny the power of the Magistrates in the matters of God and that we speak not evell only of Governors but of Government and condemn the Ministers of the Church of England and despise them as salse teachers and say they know nothing of the true light and say we condemn them for preaching for hire and sayes we deny Ministers should take any wages for their works Ans The powers that are of God ordained we own in our souls and for Conscience sake are subject to them and such as rule wel in the things of God without respect of persons which respects of persons is contrary to Scripture such we say are worthy of double honor and such our souls are subject to for such executed the Law upon transgressors and encourage them that do well and their honor lyes not in a hat or bending of the knee which is nothing but filthiness which thou and thy generation upholds but the honor and subiection to him that ruleth wel is in our souls as it is written Rom. i3 i. and here thy lyes and thy slanders we do deny and charge it upon thee from the Lord to prove where ever we were not subject unto the power of Magistrates as it was of God or where ever we spoke evill of Governors or of Government thus art thou found with lyes in thy right hand thou enemy of God and where thou sayest we condemn the Ministers of the Church of England the Ministers of Christ we own but such as thou art we deny who seek for your gain from your quarter and such as call Steeple-house Church and letter word and foundation and light and rule when Christ saith he is the way and he is the light and he is the foundation and he is the word which was before the Letter was i Iohn i. 9. and Iohn 3. and Rev. i9 i. Cor. 3. i2 and here again we do deny all such as say that sprinckling of Infants is the Baptism and the seal of the Covenant as thou Sampson Townsend did affirm and take i2 pence for sprinkling of a poor prisoners child here in this prison of Norwich the sixteenth day of the eleventh Month and the Scripture saith that the Baptisme is with one Spirit into one body and the baptisme is but one and the Church but one which is in God as thou may read Ephes 4.5 6. and i Thes i. and here thou and thy Church and thy Baptisme is shut out of Scripture and with it judged and with the light condemned to be all upheld by such sottish blind guides as thou art Priest And again thon sayest that the Ministers of England speaks nothing but what is according to the Law and the Testimony of God in his word which is the rule to try all teachers by and thou sayest that this our Iudgment is contrary to Tit. 2.15 Ans Whosoever read that Scripture will condemn thy blindness in these things who hast pretended thy self a teacher of others and yet shut up in perpetuall darkness thou blind sot where is it said in all the Scriptures that the Letter is the rule to try all reachers by or where doth it ever say that the Saints did ever try the Spirits by the Letter or how canst thou prove that ever it was called by the Saints the only rule of obedience or a written word of God with these thy lyes thou and thy generation hath deceived the blinde and simple taking their money for that which is no bread making them believe lyes instead of truth Oh ye enemies of God how long will ye despise the truth if Scripture had not been these your filthy lyes would have gone forth as truth to those that are in darkness but praised be the Lord who hath discovered your filthiness and laid you open with his light from which the Scripture was spoken by which light we read you in the Scripture to be among the false Prophets in their steps and in the wayes of the Pharises and now finding you in the latter times your condemnation is justly related in the Scriptures who go in the way of Cain and run greedily after the error of Balaam as thou may read Iude. 4.10 11. and 2 Tim. 3.2 3 4 5 6. Priest And again thou sayest that Christ and his Apostles gave strong reasons for their maintenance and to prove it thou brings those Scriptures Mat. 10 1● 〈◊〉 10.7 Ans Let all that read those Scriptures judg thee by me to be a

lyar who formerly hast testifyed that the Scripture was the word of God and thy rule and foundation and now calls it reason which from reason was never spoken but holy men of God spoke them forth as they were moved by the holy Ghost now the Apostle which was a Minister of Christ never took wages of the world neither did he compel them though to them he preached the Gospel and though he robbed other Churches yet he robbed not the World neither took he wages of the world nor hired with them for a certain time as thou and thy generation do and this was his boasting to cut off offences 2 Cor. i3 9 10.12 but with the light of God in the offences we finde you who take wages of the World contrary to the Apostles whose practises judges you to be without their life whose entrance unto the Thessalonians he plainly doth declare that it was neither for pleasing men neither of deceit nor guile nor a clack of covetousnes neither was their Gospel burthensom as thou may read i Thes 2 3 4 5 6. contrary to which thou and thy generation art found in the steps of them the Prophets Christ and his Apostles cryed against as thou may read Is●● 56. and Ier. 5 and Mic. 3. and Mat. 23. and 2 Pet. 2. and Iude. 11. And this is the Gospel the Apostles preached which is witnessed by the same Spirit which to thee is hid and all thy generation who out of their steps are found walking in the steps of the false Priest Again thou sayest the Apostle intimates that God is mocked when His Ministers are not maintaintained and thou sayest that God will not be robbed Ans Here is another of thy lyes who perverts the Apostles words and 〈…〉 thy lyes to Scripture when there is not such a word in all the Apostles words as intimate but thou and thy generation are seen to be both thieves and robbers who enters not in at the dore but climbs up another way in your inventions consequences and Imaginations which are here plainly seen and discovered to them that enter in at the dore and for dishonest gain you destroy Souls 〈◊〉 22.25 26 27. and as a Troop of Robbers waite for a man so do the company of Priests murther by consent Hosea 6.9 and are found Robbers of God as the false Prophets were who in the time of the Law took tythes and did not bring them to the store-house as thy generation now do as thou may read Mal. 3.8 9 10. Priest And thou sayes thy design according to promise is to prove the Scriptures to be the word of God the only ground of faith and rule for our obedience which thou sayest thou presented us with and bids us read it examine it if it be not truth witness against it by truth if it be so as undoubtedly you wil finde it truth as thou sayest and so bids us submit to it be ruled byit and undoubtedly our bodies shall be freed from our deserved imprisonment Ans We have read it and examined it and thee both and have found thee to be a lyar and a denyer of the Word and of the rule and of the foundation which is Christ and with that which thou calls the rule and word and foundation art thou judged and with the light thou art seen to be a wrester of the Scriptures and thy Rotten foundation being already to fail thee for it is among the blind Watchmen and greedy dumb Doggs and hire lings and among the thieves and robbers and among the Doggs and swine and filthy dreamers which the Scriptures speaks of as for our deserved imprisonment here thou lyar do we challenge thee and them that imprisoned us to prove the breach of any la wby us for they that did imprison us as many can witness could not charge us with the breach of any Law but by their wills to maintain such dumb shepheards as thou art for for the truths sake which witnesses against thee and all thy generation do we suffer for which thou and thy generation never did suffer imprisonment nor persecution of the world for ye are of the world and the world speaks well of you and heares you as it did of your Fathers the false Prophets 1 Ioh. 4 5 and Luk. 6.26 drunkards swearers lyars and thieves speaks well of you and fights for you and loves you and pleads for you and there is your fruits and freedome from our imprisonment will we never speak for in yeilding to thy lyes and false accusations as is plainly here laid open Priest And thou sayest from thy study Ianuary 29. Ans Here thy filthy rotten stuft which thou hast been such a long time of gathering together in thy study it s tryed and seen to be fewel for the fire and thou art seen to study divinations of thy own brain and to be an inventer of lyes contrary to Scripture and where did ever any of the Saints go into a study and rake up such filthy stuff and invent such lyes as thou art disaproved in with that which thou calls thy word thy foundation and only Rule of obedience Here let the life of all the holy men of God judg thee to be both shut out of their life and out of the Scriptures Having returned answer to the former part of thy retten stuff Sampson Townsend wherein thy lies and deceit is uncovered to all them that have eyes to see may see thy nakedness and thy shame laid open now for the Simple ones sake which thou by thy lyes and divinations makes a prey upon and through thy covetousness makes Merchandise of who pharisee-like would neither enter into the Kingdom thy self nor suffer others to enter in now for their sakes are we moved to unvaile thee and thy deceit that they that see not might see thee in thy lyes and wresting the Scripture as thou hast also made it appear in the latter part of thy book wherein thou sayest Priest That thou hast undertaken against the Quakers these two propositions i. that the Scriptures contained in the Old and New-Testament commonly called the Bible is the revealed will and word of God 2. That the Scripture which is the word of God is the only foundation of our Faith and only rule for our obedience which thou sayest thou wilt prove 1. by Scripture 2. by reason and thou sayest that he that will not heare the voice of Scriptures is an Infidell and he that will not heare the voice of reason is a beast Answer We who in scorn by thee and thy generation are called quakers do own Scriptures but thee we utterly deny for an evill Beast whose mouth must be stopped Tit. i. 10 11 12. who in thy filthy reason art going about to maintain those things which thou canst not prove by any plain Scripture but to it art found adding in thy reason and thy invention and thererefore the plagues that are in it written is thy portion and the Lake

had a being but the works of the five first dayes Creation are mentioned in Scripture but man was not made till the sixt day therefore they must needs be the word of God Ans Here thou blind Beast who art ignorant of God who makes antiquity as thou calls it the perfect knowledg of God and sayes that man could not declare of things before ever he had a being and so would make people believe that the Scripture reveal God thou blind Beast whether was man or the Scriptures first and whether did God make himself manifest unto and thou that sayest that the Scripture reveal God thou art a lyar for God revealed himself to Moses before the Scripture was written and Moses who was the first pen-man of the Scripture was 14 Generations after the fall and yet he wrote of things before the fall was and thy father Cain was before Moses was and yet he knew no Scripture and thou that would make the Letter the light and way of knowing God art not so much as a Minister of the Letter and here thou art made manifest to be in the fall in the death which past over all men before Moses was and are not come to see the first dayes work to see light divided from darkness and here let all the Prophets and holy men of God judge thee with the Light from which thou art erred for they wrote of Christ and saw his day many Generations before he came in the flesh and here thy antiquity and thy reasons and the three persons thou dreams of which would devide out of one like a conjurer are all denied and thou shut up with them in perpetuall darkness for the Lake and pit for thou hast no Scripture that mentious such things Priest And where thou art telling that the Scripture converts the Soul and works Grace and the opening thereof make hearts to tremble and sayes that Scriptures discovers mens thoughts and makes Laws for them Ans Here thou hast made thy self manifest where did ever any of the holy men of God say that the Scripture converts the Soul or make Laws for mens thoughts and what is that which opens the Scripture or where is it if the bare Letter convert the Souls here thou Priest of Baal for that is thy name thy lyes are made manifest and deceits laid open to the Children of the Light and art seen with the light from which the Scripture was spoken Priest Again thou sayest the Scripture speaks to all men alike but thus do not the word of man therefore thou sayest they are the word of God Ans But thou thy self and thy generation are perverters of the Scripture and are respectors of persons for you are called of men Master stands praying in the Synagogues has the chiefest places in the assemblies and the greeting in the Markets and are pleading for cap and knee and sayes we do not reverence Magistrates because we do not put off our hats and bend our knees as thou and the rest of thy generation of Hypocrites do who have mens persons in admiration because of advantage Iude. 16. and this which you calls the word speaks not to all men alike for wo is pronounced in it to such as thou art who art found in the steps of the false Prophets and Scribes and Pharises and goes in the way of Cain to envie and after the error of Balaam for gifts and rewards which wo was never pronounced to the righteous and wo unto thee thou lyar who art a wrester of Scripture to thy own destruction and art found with so many Lyes as thou hast here uttered Priest In another place thou sayest no Creature Angels men or Devils if all were put together in one could ever Diclare before-hand what paarticular person should be borne and what should be their names in so many thousands yeers before their birth Ans Here thou art taken with another lye with which thou hast stuffed up this thy confused Book for both by Angels and Men was Iesus Christ the Son of-God prophesied of Moses who was many years before Christ came in the flesh prophesied of Christ and said like unto me wil God raise up a Prophet him shall the people hear Mat. 1.17 see if thou can number the year of all these generations which prophesied of Christ and when Christ came he saith before Abraham was I am thus art thou-known and comprehended with the truth which all thy fathers and generations past persecuted so be ashamed and stop thoy mouth for evere Priest In that thou calls thy two propositions 1. thou sayest the Scriptures ar the means by which faith is wrought and to prove that by thou brings Rom. 10.17 Ans Shame cover thy face thou full of rottenness and filthy dreames where did thou ever read in Scripture that it is the means whereby faith is wrought when that Scripture saith faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word here thou art deafe and never heard the word and thy faith and word is without but the word of faith which we preach is nigh in the heart and mouth Rom. 10.8 therefore search thou the Scriptures with the Saduces who knew not Christ for in them thou and thy generation thinks to have eternall life but ye will not come unto Christ that ye may have life Iohn 5.38 39 40. Priest Again thou sayest that the Scripture which thou calls the word is an everlasting rule so long as we live on earth Ans Thou blinde sot see thy confusion can that Letter be everlasting while we live upon earth here thou hast shewed thy reason where it is that they that are not stark blind may see thee thy reason and thy foundation to be in the mire and dirt and may see thee to be a senceless naturall bruit Beast who with thy lyes art made to be taken and destroyed 2 Pet. 2.12 Priest And again thou sayest the most emminent believer sin in many things An. Here is the end of thy teaching here is thy rule here is thy foundation and here is thy obedience and here is thy fruites and here is thy service who commits sin and a Servant to Sin and free from righteousness Iohn 8.24 Rom. 16.20 Oh thou blasphemer and slanderer of the just when wilt thou cease from thy Lyes and blasphemy where dost or canst thou prove such a Scripture as the most emmment believer Sin in any things when the Scripture saith he that believeth is born of God and he that is bore of God sinneth not for whosoever sinneth hath not seen him neither known him and he that committeth sin is of the Devill and there 's thy condition and he is thy Father who is the father of all lyars as thou art i Iohn 3.3 4 5 6 7 8. Priest And to conclude thy filthy rotten stuff thou sayest they that make not the word of God the rule for their actions are led either by their own fancies or the Devils temptations or both Asn Thee Priest Townsend art here laid open and thou art uncovered and here thou art found to be a denyer of the word and rule and foundation and thou art led by thy dreames and fancies and thy foundation is in the dust and thou art reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for everlasting fire and here thou in all these thy lyes art shut out from God and all the Children of God among the doggs and Sorcerers and the Lake is thy portion which is the portion of all lyars Iude. 6 7 8. thus have we returned a full answer unto thy senseless stuff and in plainness have we dealt with thee and have not flatterd thee at all there cal it not railing least thou violate the Scriptures so with the word of truth thou art tryed and comprehended and us shalt thou witness eternally when the book of Conscience comes to be opened and thou judged out of it so we remain Sufferers for the truth and witnesses against thee and thy generation Named according to the flesh Christopher Atkinson Iames Lancaster George VVhitehead Thomas Simonds Several words spoken by this said Priest Townsend before he sent these Propositions THE 16. day of the 11. month this Priest Townsend came to this Prison of Norwich and said that sprinkling of Infants was the seal of the Covenant and that it was an ordinance of Christ and that it was to the seed of believers and he sprinckled a womans Child in this prison aforesaid who was imprisoned for whoredome and for sprincling of it he took twelve pence and when he was charged with it he denyed it and then it being laid further to his charge he then could not deny it and he said he took it not for sprinckling of the Child but for coming to this prison and he said the Labourer is worthy of his hire and he said that Paul was not sent to baptize but to preach but he said hee was sent both to baptize and to preach and that he had a Commssion for both and he said we were of the Devills confederates and he said the Devil spoke in Christopher Atkinson and he said the Lord rebule thee Satan and he said the Bible is the word of God and he called Christopher Atkinson sauce-box and he said that we would take the Ministers maintenance away that they might go begging from dore to dore and he said he would send four or five propositions within a fortnight and afterward he said he would send them within a month and he said that Paul had good victuals and strong beere at one mans house and he said we might reverence Magistrates in daffing the hat and having the heads uncovered and in bowing and he said that he that prayes or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head and he being demanded why the Priest had some of them two caps on when they pray he said because of infirmities of their bodies and he said that he would have sent propositions before now but that he said he thought we would send them to be printed therefore he said he would be cautious and wary in writing them he said that God recorded the Devills words These words were spoken by this said Sampson Townsend who calls himself a Minister of the Gospell and a Pastor FINIS