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A56281 Remarks of A. Pulton, master in the Savoy, upon Dr Tho. Tenison's late narrative with a confutation of the doctors rule of faith, and a reply to A. Chresners pretended Vindication. Pulton, A. (Andrew), 1654-1710. 1687 (1687) Wing P4207; ESTC R5578 30,730 54

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in the year 492. All which was confirm'd by the sixth General Council in the year 680. And in the Council of Florence held in the year 1438. the same Canon was again confirm'd the Greeks Armenians and Jacobites subscribing thereto So that when Protestancy began there were no Christians in the World who believ'd those Books precisely to be Holy Scripture which the Church of England allows of and consequently they have the Testimony of the Vniversal Church and every Member thereof against them wanting ten parts of that Rule which they believe the only essential one to Salvation Now as for the Text their own private Spirit is the sole Oracle it dropt from As for what relates to the Sense and Meaning of Holy Scripture the Dr. with all the Eyes of the quick-sighted Ministry shall never discover that Body of Christians who ever profess'd those Articles of Faith both Positive and Negative the present Church of England proposes for her Credenda Hence it is evident they have been their own Choosers of Books Texts and Sense and from first to last have no Authority either for one or other Mark here how the Dr. calls the Canon subscrib'd by St. Augustine and constantly allow'd by all the Universal Church for eleven hundred years Apocryphal Books of the later Time As also that his saying He is as sure of this Books being the Bible as of Cicero 's Offices being his Book is with submission to his Doctorship a mistake Nor can he be said to believe a thing on anothers word who neither believes him in his whole story nor in his manner of relating it nor in the meaning of the Words he uses to explicate himself but such an one must be said to believe what himself pleases and not what the other relates Which is the proper Notion of an Heretick deriv'd from 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to choose He proceeds to illustrate what he slightly touch'd Confer p. 10. in the Conference proving the Bible from Mens considering the Prophesies and their Events the Characters of CHRIST the History of CHRIST c. Now this proves nothing there being no other Testimony either for the Prophesies or Events than the Church of Englands private Judgement she not having taken them on the Testimony of any Christians in the World. But granting the Historical Part of Holy Writ to be clear'd by these Comparisons yet the Doctrinal part on which the main hinge of Controversy turns can never be that way made out Which being soreseen by the Dr. he adds moreover that Men must use Pious Means in Humility of Soul and so they shall have Further Assurance begotten in them Here the Dr. has found a Salvo for all the Errours that ever have been or shall be committed in Points of Faith For he that shall say he has us'd Pious Means in Humility of Soul and that he has an Interiour Assurance of the Truth as all Hereticks in the World have ever pretended ought never to be proceeded against And by the same Rule all Penal Laws Persecuting Christians for Conscience are evidently unjust Which notwithstanding have ever been the only Bulwark of the Church of England Now A. P. will demonstrate the above-mention'd Assertion of the Dr's to be Weak Erroneous and False Which he thus proves The Water is clearest at the Fountain-Head Hence if ever any us'd those Pious Means and had thereby Assurance begotten in them We must allow it to Luther Carolostadius Zuinglius Beza Castalio c. Who were the Principal Heads of the Reform'd Churches and consequently receiv'd more of the Divine Influence us'd more Industry in acquiring Authentick Copies comparing Texts imploring the Divine Assistance than any of their Followers To begin therefore with Luther Zuinglius says of him That He was a foul Corrupter and horrible Falsifier of GODS Word One who follow'd Lib. de Sacramentia fol. 472 the Marcionists and Arians that ras'd out such Places of Holy Writ as were against him Thou doest says he to Luther Corrupt the Word of God thou art seen to be a manifest and common Corrupter and Perverter of the Holy Scriptures How much are we asham'd of thee who have hitherto esteem'd thee With how great reason Zuinglius objected this to him those are Judges who have noted Vide Bell. Ser. de Pentec above a thousand places chang'd by him in the New Testament alone and that he set forth the Gospels seven times every Edition very much differing from the precedent Now A. P. desires to know whether and when Martin Luther had the Assurance he requires Luther on the other side affirms of the Zuinglian Vid. Pro. Ap. tract 10. S. 10. Subd 4. Translators that They were Fools Asses Antichrists Deceivers and of an Ass-like Vnderstanding Beza says of the Basilian Translation That It is in many places wicked and altogether differing from the Mind of the Holy Ghost Of Beza's Translation Castalio observes That to note all his Errours would require a great Volume Beza again pronounces of Castalio's Edition That It is False Foolish Vnskilful Bold Blasphemous Vitious Ridiculous Cursed Erroneous Wicked Perverse In the first English Bible set forth in the Reign of Henry the VIII by Tindal the chief Apostle of the pretended Reformation Bishop Tunstal has noted no less than two thousand Corruptions in the Translation of the New Testament alone A. P. therefore desires the Dr. to give a Rule to seekers of the Truth by which they may discover the True and Uncorrupted Word of GOD. Amidst so much Dis-union Clashing and manifest Contradictions all which naturally flow from that irregular Liberty of Expounding Scripture given to all men by the Reformers From what has been hitherto said A. P. draws this Argument That which leads to manifest Discord of Opinion cannot be the Rule of One Holy Catholick Church But the Rule assign'd by the Dr. as now prov'd has open'd the Door to manifest Discord in Opinion Therefore it is not the Rule of One True Catholick Church A. P. Humbly intreats the indifferent Reader to ponder this whole Discourse with that Attention and Judgement it deserves For if A. P. proves this point against the Dr. he is sure That the whole Basis of the Reformation will totter and that the Church of England has no more to say in her Defence than the most Erroneous Body of Christians which has ever been since CHRIST's Time. A Prosecution of the REMARKS WEre the Quaery concerning the Ordination of Confer p. 10. Linus any way material to A. P's Faith he would Answer it And what Copy St. Peter had of the Old Testament makes nothing to the proof of A. P's Canon for which he has the Testimony of an Infallible Church whereas the Church of England has none at all for hers The Dr. in the same Page says The Word Rock Note That Cephas the word our Saviour us'd is a Syriach word and signifies the same in either Gender As you are a Rock
Greek and Roman Emperours and of the Kings of Hierusalem France Spain England Aragon Cyprus and Hungary 'T was held in the year of our Lord 1215. by the Authority of Pope Innocent the III. in the time of the Emperour Frederick the II. For recovering the Holy-Land from the Turks and against the Heresies of the Albigenses and Almaricus and the Errours of Abbot Joachim In the midst of this Discourse about the Lateran Conf. p. 15. Council the Dr. brings in the passage of the Impertinent School-master with his Picture which ought to have been alledg'd six Pages before From Father Walsh the Dr. passes to A. P's Breviary Conf. p. 16. and Written Paper though A. P. produc'd no such Paper and having shew'd in one Paragraph how the question of Transubstantiation c. was now agreed on and that he appeal'd to the Fathers Though he would not take them for his Infallible Judge he presently taxes A. P. that he would p. 17. fix to nothing and soon after complains of Mr. M. whom the Dr. himself to avoid the hearing A. P's Testimonies had provok'd to it That he was drawing p 18. them away from their point So that here 's fixing and no fixing almost in a Breath But here Mr. M. intends to have a word with the Dr. The Dr. then says That He desir'd A. P. to read p. 19. out of his printed Paper the place out of Justin Martyr Which is a Misrepresentation For A. P. having at least twenty times offer'd at it in vain at last took occasion of the Dr's being out of Breath to oblige him to hear it After this the Dr. having given in his Narrative a far different Account of his Sense of the Real Presence from what he did in the Conference it self as appears in A. P's Account to which the Reader A. P 's Account of Conf. p. 12. is referr'd where he first granted it and then said he would not speak to that Point passes on to a Quaery put to A. P. by Mr. D. A. C. viz. What Dr. T 's Acc. of Conf. p. 20. kind of Phylosophy that was which maintain'd that Accidents subsisted without Substance and tells you that A. P. saying 'T was true Philosophy D. T. himself ask'd Whether it was true Philosophy to say there was Whiteness without a white thing c. And that it was answer'd GOD could do this A. P. stands to his Answer and desires to know of this Church-Divine who measures his Faith by his Phylosophy By what principle of Phylosophy he conceives GOD to have made all things of nothing to have Physically united his Divine to our Humane Nature to be Three and One in the same indivisible Substance What Phylosophy teaches the Resurrection of the Dead and the washing our Soul by Baptism Now A. P. has been instructed first to see what Faith Teaches and then to weigh it in the Ballance of Phylosophy and if it surpass the reach of Natural Discourse rather to renounce the Principles of Phylosophy than the Articles of his Faith. As for the Contradiction Mr. D. A. C. is said to have discover'd in the Doctrine of Transubstantiation A. P. asserts that Mr. D. A. C. shall never with all his skill in Logick be able to make a Syllogism that implies a Contradiction in any of the Tenets of the Roman Catholick Church It might be wish'd that the conceited Wits of our Time had more Humility and less Vanity For thence would proceed more Inclination to Faith and less to Atheism Then the Dr. alledges the Testimony of Costerus who grants that if CHRIST be not really present in the Eucharist The Worshiping of it would be worse Idolatry than that of the Laplanders who Worshiped a Red-cloath And A. P. adds that if CHRIST be really there for the belief of which there is fourty to one on A. P's side the denying it Divine Worship would prove the highest Impiety besides the violating a Divine Precept of Eating his Sacred Body incumbent on all who are arriv'd at the years of Discretion This puts me in mind of an Atheistical Expression which fell from one of our Protestant Bigots who seeing beyond-Sea a Person of great Quality and Riches leave all to become a poor Capucin said How will this poor Gentleman be gull'd if after all there be no GOD To which Sacrilegious Impiety a stander by reply'd But how will you be gull'd Sir if there prove to be a GOD To apply this How great will be the Confusion of Dr. T. at the day of Judgement when he shall find the Catholick Tenet true whereas if A. P. should to suppose an Impossibility find it otherwise he will not have the least Reason to appear confounded since he had the same Ground to believe Transubstantiation as the Blessed Trinity Here the Dr. repeats that A. P. was again Confer p 21. desir'd to stick to something where A. P. in near an hour and a half could only edge in two Quotations whilst the Dr. rambled through twenty impertinent Subjects most of which he has misplac'd though here you find him by his own account running on no occasion to that of St. Matthew Hear the Matt. c 18. Church Which every one sees how it was to the Quotations A. P. was always pressing him to A. P. Acc. of Conf. p. 13 14. hear Concerning which see A. P's account The Dr. adds That it was resolv'd that Dr. T. Dr. T 's Acc. of Conf. p. 22. should write of this matter and of St. Ambrose St. Cyril and Justin Martyr to Mr. P. and receive his answer In which there is as much Truth as in the matter of Fact he represented in his 4th Page The Dr. would willingly have what he said Ibid. p. 23. touhing Papists being Breakers of their Words to pass for a personal affront put upon A. P. But A. P. has given you a most sincere and modest Account of it in his Relation of the Conference and A P's Acc. of Conf. p. 14 15. Mr. M. being on this occasion most foully aspers'd by the Dr. will add to it what is pertinent The Dr. drawing to a conclusion of the Conference says That having charg'd A. P. with being of D. T 's Acc. p. 24 an Order who had brought in a Foreign Jurisdiction Note That A. P. only spoke of a Spiritual Jurisdiction A. P. asserted That the Pope had had a Right of Jurisdiction here a Thousand Years and that Dr. T. ought not therefore to call it Foreign and that Dr. T. said these were dangerous words A. P. in this matter refers himself to the Judgement of His most Sacred MAJESTY who alone can be injur'd by that Assertion As for what concerns the Bishops and Clergy of the Church of England they must either derive their Orders and Spiritual Power from the See of Rome or else they will never be able to make out they have any at all The Dr. here omits A.