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A66900 Pulpit-conceptions, popular-deceptions, or, The grand debate resumed, in the point of prayer wherein it appears that those free prayers so earnestly contended for have no advantage above the prescribed liturgie in publick administrations : being an answer to the Presbyterian papers presented to the most reverend the ls. bishops at the Savoy upon that subject. Womock, Laurence, 1612-1685. 1662 (1662) Wing W3347; ESTC R25192 47,855 72

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to tell you that as well the experience of our own dispositions as the constant Practice of the Church in all Ages assures us the contrary Hereupon we are astonished no lesse at the untruth and perversity then at the arrogance of your following expressions in these vain words And though we have concurred to offer you our more Corrected Nepenthe's yet must we before God and men protest against the dose of Opium which you here prescribe or wish for as that which plainly tendeth to cure the Disease by the extinguishing of Life and to unite us all in a dead Religion You need not force your modesty to tell us we know your opinion well enough that your own Geese are all Swans but we like none of the breed for their black feet sake which trample down all Order and Authority But your Nepenthe's haply are not so proper for your Constitutions Things that do exhilarate and raise the Spirits and awaken Fancy are dangerous to be administred to the Frantick And it is an ill * Apud medicos 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 dicitur affectus praeter naturam qui morbum velut umbra corpus sequitur Galen ● Symptome that you proclaim your medicine to be your poison but if finding you in some Lucid interval we can persuade you to take it that dose of Opium will be more soveraign to coole your brain and bring you to rest and settle your distempers For you talke idly still in your next words And when our Prayers that avail must be effectual and fervent Jam. 5. 6. and God will be worshipped in Spirit and truth and more regardeth the frame of the Heart then the Comeliness of Expression we have no reason to be taken with any thing that pretends to help the Tongue while we are sure it ordinarily hurts the Heart So you say but are you sure on 't Will you not eate your words presently and tell us that Formes have their laudable use We shall observe it as we go along with you In the interim we do acknowledge that it is not the style and ornament but the humility and the fervour that gives the perfection unto Prayer And Prayer is then humble and fervent not when 't is designed and made to move affection as your extemporary ones for the most part are but when it proceeds from it as the off-spring of a heart that abounds with humility fervour and compunction Hence * Grad 21. Climacus adviseth Noli verbis excultioribus in oratione tua uti Saepe enim Infantium simplicia pura balbutientia verba Patrem suum qui in coelis est placaverunt But he speaks of the Prayer not of a Publick but a Private person offer'd up in his own name and not in the name of the Church For should the Priest offer up those simplicia and balbutientia verba those Childish uncouth expressions there he would certainly incurre a just shame with men and so lose that concurrent help which you formerly commended to us But what cannot a Form of Prayer be * God forbid that I should ever think that there are not righteous men among the Prelatical or fervent effectual prayers that are Liturgical saith your Advocate in his Peaceable Enquiry about Re-ordination p. 125. effectual and fervent as St James requires cannot God be worshipped in Spirit and in truth in it If you affirm then you produce these Scriptures to no purpose but if you deny then it will follow that no forms are laudable and then you contradict your selves and condemn as well God himself as his Servants for prescribing them But for all you have involved your selves in these palpable Absurdities you are resolved to hold the Conclusion still for you say further It is not the affirmations of any men in the world persuading us of the harmelesness of such a course that can so far unman us as to make us disbelieve both our own Experience and common Observation of the effect on others We know Humanum est errare and if you will not be unman'd in that sense who can help it 'T is certain men may be deceived in their own * What think you of Corah Dathan and Abiram Numb 16. 3. All the congregation are holy every one of them and the Lord is among them Wherefore then lift ye up your selves above the congregation of the Lord Experience and in those effects which they observe in others There is a sensible Devotion that begins in sensitive nature and makes a conspicuous alteration in it It produces great tendernesses fervour and melting affections it will draw sighs from the bosom and tears from the eies and spring many motions of delectation and sweetness in the heart And men may have so great a complacency in these inundations of sweetness and pleasing impetuosities imagining them to be gracious effects and actuations of the Holy Ghost as to be transported with them And yet this sensible Devotion may rather indanger to depresse the operations of the Spirit then advance them and many times doth nourish Pride self-love and a contempt of others rather then contribute to the augmentation of Divine Love or a proficiency in Obedience To abate therefore the too high esteem that unwary souls may have of this sensible fervour and devotion we are informed by very * Jacob. Alvarez de Paz de Inquis Pacis lib. 2. par 3. cap. 3. per totum Sancta Sophia Treat 3. §. 1. c. 5. per totum Dr. Meric Casaubon of Enthusiasm c. 6. per totum creditable observation that it is not alwaies a sign of a good disposition or holiness in the Soul Very impious persons may and have injoyed it When it is derived to us as the gift of God he intends it for our incouragement in his pure love and therefore it is not to be neglected Hae consolationes sensibiles * Sensible devotions are called also sensible consolations by the Writers of Mystical Theology verae quamvis despiciendae non sint non sunt tamen supra modum astimandae Quia nec sunt verae virtutes nec necessarii solidarum virtutum effectus nec necessaria profectûs instrumenta sine quibus plurimi ad magnam virtutem ac mentis puritatem ascendunt * J●c Alvar. ibid. When they are truly sent us from God they are subject to great perversities if they be not used with discretion they may prove pernicious and plunge the Soul August Baker in Sanct. Soph. ubi suprá more deeply in self-love and corrupt nature in which they are much immersed But this sensible Devotion fervour and sweetnesse may flow also from the mere natural temper of the body or from the vehement intention of the mind or from a tone and cadence of words or power of language or from the subtile insinuation and illusion of the Devil as the Masters of Devotions do generally observe This is a Truth acknowledged in the Morning Exercise at Cripplegate p. 515.