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A36591 Innocency and truth vindicated, or, A sober reply to Mr. Will's answer to a late treatise of baptisme wherein the authorities and antiquities for believers and against infants baptism are defended ... : with a brief answer to Mr. Blinmans essay / by Henry Danvers. Danvers, Henry, d. 1687. 1675 (1675) Wing D223; ESTC R8412 108,224 202

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witness_n you_o have_v doctor_n barlow_n barlow_n dr._n barlow_n tell_v we_o that_o tertullian_n dislike_v and_o condemn_v infant_n baptism_n as_o unwarrentable_a and_o irrational_a daille_n daille_n daille_n also_o tell_v we_o as_o you_o have_v it_o pag._n 149._o that_o tertullian_n be_v of_o a_o opinion_n that_o infant_n be_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v scultet_fw-la scultet_fw-la and_o scultetus_n also_o in_o his_o medul_n pat._n lib._n 7._o cap._n 42._o pag._n 1._o tell_v we_o that_o tertullian_n in_o his_o book_n of_o baptism_n affirm_v that_o they_o only_o shall_v be_v baptize_v that_o be_v capable_a of_o the_o knowledge_n of_o christ_n magdeb._n magdeb._n the_o magdeb._n do_v also_o tell_v we_o p._n 52._o that_o he_o be_v only_o for_o adult_n baptism_n and_o oppose_v himself_o to_o those_o that_o affirm_v otherwise_o rhenanus_fw-la beatus_fw-la rhenanus_fw-la beatus_fw-la rhenanus_fw-la in_o his_o annotation_n upon_o tertullian_n say_v that_o those_o that_o be_v come_v to_o 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their_o mind_n and_o
there_o be_v none_o baptise_a in_o it_o but_o believer_n first_o because_o there_o be_v n●_n precept_n to_o baptise_v any_o other_o second_o no_o example_n for_o any_o other_o and_o three_o from_o what_o be_v say_v of_o they_o act._n 16.40_o they_o be_v only_o adult_a person_n capable_a of_o instruction_n and_o consolation_n for_o t●_n say_v paul_n and_o sylas_n after_o they_o come_v out_o of_o prison_n enter_v into_o the_o house_n of_o lydia_n and_o comfort_v the_o brethren_n there_o viz_o those_o in_o that_o family_n that_o have_v be_v trouble_v for_o the_o hard_a usuage_n and_o imprisonment_n of_o th●_n apostles_n beside_o it_o be_v very_o probable_a lydia_n be_v a_o single_a person_n no_o husband_n be_v mention_v but_o she_o in_o chief_a all_o along_o but_o sure_o it_o be_v on_o their_o part_n that_o say_v she_o have_v child_n and_o baptize_v child_n too_o to_o prove_v it_o for_o ●_o yet_o it_o do_v not_o appear_v but_o the_o contrary_n so_o that_o here_o i●_n neither_o child_n express_o nor_o by_o any_o consequence_n to_o b●_n find_v in_o any_o of_o these_o baptise_a household_n in_o so_o much_o that_o dr._n hamond_n the_o last_o great_a writ●_n for_o infant_n baptism_n confess_v in_o his_o six_o quaery_n pag._n 471_o that_o to_o conclude_v infant_n be_v baptise_a because_o household_n be_v so_o mention_v to_o be_v be_v unconvince_v and_o without_o demonstration_n it_o be_v so_o un●●rtain_a whether_o there_o be_v any_o child_n in_o those_o family_n as_o though_o if_o the_o master_n of_o the_o family_n be●●ved_v all_o the_o house_n whether_o ignorant_a unconvert_v profane_a and_o athiestical_a be_v to_o be_v baptise_a also_o in_o the_o next_o place_n we_o come_v to_o examine_v the_o parity_n betwixt_o the_o command_n we_o urge_v for_o woman_n receive_n the_o lord_n supper_n and_o that_o which_o be_v pretend_v by_o 〈◊〉_d for_o infant_n baptism_n the_o command_n we_o bring_v for_o woman_n receive_n ●●e_z lord_n supper_n be_v 1_o cor._n 11.28_o let_v a_o man_n 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some_o uther_n of_o like_a import_n mention_v in_o the_o chapter_n second_o from_o the_o text_n itself_o where_o the_o relative_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v join_v to_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o so_o it_o be_v express_o limit_v to_o the_o masculine_a and_o therefore_o to_o a_o man_n only_o and_o not_o to_o a_o woman_n therefore_o the_o text_n must_v be_v read_v let_v a_o man_n examine_v himself_o express_o not_o a_o woman_n and_o so_o let_v he_o eat_v etc._n etc._n but_o i_o appeal_v to_o the_o sober_a and_o judicious_a reader_n whether_o this_o be_v not_o a_o mere_a trifle_n in_o the_o thing_n of_o god_n and_o a_o play_v with_o word_n to_o pervert_v the_o truth_n as_o for_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o other_o of_o like_a nature_n we_o need_v say_v no_o more_o and_o to_o the_o relative_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o little_a mr._n blindman_n know_v i_o very_o believe_v there_o be_v little_a but_o deceit_n in_o it_o for_o what_o more_o frequent_a in_o scripture_n than_o to_o find_v this_o relative_n to_o respect_v both_o sex_n for_o instance_n jam._n 1.23_o 24._o if_o any_o be_v a_o hearer_n of_o the_o word_n and_o not_o a_o doer_n he_o be_v like_a unto_o a_o man_n behold_v his_o natural_a face_n in_o a_o glass_n for_o he_o behold_v himself_o and_o go_v his_o way_n etc._n etc._n which_o i_o presume_v take_v in_o the_o woman_n as_o well_o as_o the_o man._n rom._n 13.9_o love_v thy_o neighbour_n as_o thy_o self_n the_o same_o so_o matth._n 28.19_o 20._o baptise_v they_o and_o teach_v they_o the_o same_o also_o so_o that_o by_o mr._n blindman_n rule_n we_o have_v as_o little_o express_v command_n for_o their_o baptism_n as_o their_o communion_n and_o that_o man_n be_v only_o concern_v in_o both_o so_o that_o your_o exception_n to_o our_o command_n be_v as_o insignificant_a as_o those_o to_o our_o example_n then_o you_o come_v sir_n to_o produce_v your_o command_n for_o infant_n baptism_n which_o you_o will_v make_v we_o believe_v be_v as_o clear_v if_o not_o clear_a that_o what_o have_v be_v give_v for_o woman_n receive_n the_o lord_n supper_n viz._n mat._n 28.9_o go_v teach_v or_o discipulize_v all_o nation_n baptise_v they_o and_o that_o child_n be_v disciple_n be_v clear_v you_o say_v from_o act._n 15.10_o why_o tempt_v you_o god_n to_o put_v a_o yoke_n upon_o the_o neck_n of_o the_o disciple_n but_o for_o your_o better_a information_n in_o christ_n commission_n i_o must_v refer_v you_o to_o the_o account_n mr._n baxter_n give_v of_o it_o who_o tell_v we_o the_o right_a order_n thereof_o and_o lesson_n therein_o viz._n that_o the_o first_o task_n be_v to_o make_v disciple_n which_o he_o tell_v we_o by_o mark_n be_v call_v believer_n the_o second_o be_v baptise_v they_o and_o the_o three_o to_o teach_v they_o all_o other_o thing_n which_o be_v afterward_o to_o be_v learn_v in_o christ_n school_n which_o be_v a_o right_a and_o true_a definition_n of_o the_o text_n the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o discipulize_v or_o make_v disciple_n be_v nothing_o else_o but_o to_o beget_v they_o to_o the_o faith_n by_o preach_v the_o gospel_n to_o they_o the_o true_a mean_n thereof_o and_o then_o be_v instruct_v in_o the_o faith_n they_o be_v to_o be_v baptise_a therein_o and_o therefore_o again_o mr._n baxter_n true_o tell_v we_o that_o it_o be_v the_o constant_a order_n that_o baptism_n follow_v faith_n and_o no_o better_a than_o a_o impious_a profanation_n of_o the_o sacrament_n if_o it_o go_v without_o faith_n and_o that_o if_o faith_n be_v not_o the_o pre-requisite_a to_o baptism_n philip_n delude_v and_o not_o decide_v the_o question_n when_o he_o tell_v the_o eunuch_n if_o he_o believe_v with_o all_o his_o heart_n he_o may_v so_o that_o when_o you_o can_v make_v it_o appear_v your_o infant_n as_o a_o teach_v disciple_n believe_v in_o christ_n you_o may_v find_v a_o command_n here_o to_o baptise_v he_o otherwise_o as_o mr._n baxter_n tell_v we_o philip_n answer_n carry_v a_o negative_a in_o it_o viz._n if_o thou_o do_v not_o believe_v thou_o may_v not_o be_v baptize_v and_o as_o for_o infant_n discipleship_n from_o act._n 15.10_o it_o be_v a_o utter_a mistake_n the_o disciple_n there_o be_v those_o gentile_a believer_n that_o have_v new_o receive_v the_o faith_n who_o be_v neither_o to_o be_v yoke_v with_o circumcision_n nor_o any_o other_o jewish_a rite_n only_o they_o be_v enjoin_v to_o abstain_v from_o idolathits_n blood_n thing_n strangle_v and_o fornication_n there_o be_v no_o infant_n in_o the_o case_n nor_o concern_v herein_o neither_o be_v they_o any_o where_o call_v believer_n or_o disciple_n therefore_o sir_n upon_o the_o whole_a let_v the_o judicious_a reader_n judge_n betwixt_o we_o whether_o you_o have_v give_v as_o good_a ground_n by_o as_o full_a precept_n or_o example_n for_o baptise_v infant_n as_o i_o have_v do_v from_o god_n word_n for_o woman_n receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n not_o doubt_v but_o this_o search_n into_o this_o your_o essay_n will_v put_v a_o comfortable_a end_n to_o this_o part_n of_o the_o controversy_n betwixt_o we_o in_o the_o next_o place_n you_o must_v give_v i_o leave_v to_o return_v you_o a_o answer_n to_o three_o or_o four_o smart_a reflection_n i_o meet_v with_o in_o your_o book_n first_o sir_n i_o conceive_v you_o have_v give_v i_o just_a occasion_n of_o offence_n so_o undue_o to_o mention_v my_o not_o take_v notice_n of_o mr._n baxter_n errata_fw-la without_o any_o the_o least_o regard_n to_o what_o i_o have_v so_o large_o speak_v for_o his_o satisfaction_n and_o my_o own_o vindication_n have_v receive_v the_o like_a measure_n from_o mr._n will_v therein_o also_o and_o whether_o the_o reprove_v that_o my_o omission_n with_o such_o severity_n and_o whole_o pass_v over_o those_o
and_o many_o suffer_v bond_n and_o martyrdom_n from_o protestant_a brethren_n for_o the_o profession_n thereof_o p._n 260._o thessalonian_o 5._o thessalonian_o the_o church_n in_o thessalonica_n of_o the_o same_o faith_n and_o practice_v p._n 76._o fleming_n 6._o fleming_n the_o church_n of_o christ_n in_o flanders_n assert_v the_o same_o and_o multitude_n of_o martyr_n that_o witness_v thereto_o by_o blood_n p._n 267_o etc._n etc._n bohemian_o 7._o bohemian_o the_o church_n in_o bohemia_n witness_v to_o this_o truth_n and_o their_o great_a suffering_n for_o the_o same_o pag._n 271._o hungarian_n 8._o hungarian_n the_o church_n of_o hungaria_n of_o the_o same_o practice_n p._n 274._o pole_n 9_o pole_n the_o church_n in_o poland_n of_o like_a faith_n and_o practice_v p._n 274._o transilvanian_o 10._o transilvanian_o the_o church_n in_o transylvania_n of_o the_o same_o practice_n 274._o english_a 11._o english_a the_o church_n in_o this_o nation_n own_v the_o same_o principle_n and_o practice_v viz._n first_o in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o ancient_a britain_n p._n 226._o second_o under_o the_o name_n of_o lollard_n from_o the_o waldensian_a barb_n of_o that_o name_n pag._n 278._o p._n 203_o 204._o three_o under_o the_o name_n wickliffians_fw-fr who_o assert_v also_o that_o believer_n be_v the_o only_a subject_n of_o baptism_n p._n 283._o and_o last_o since_o henry_n the_o eight_n time_n under_o the_o name_n of_o anabaptist_n p._n 306._o against_o which_o latter_a testimony_n from_o these_o respective_a church_n in_o these_o several_a region_n he_o only_o except_v against_o the_o donatist_n waldenses_n and_o ancient_a britain_n deny_v that_o they_o be_v of_o this_o faith_n and_o practice_n which_o you_o have_v particular_o reply_v to_o in_o the_o three_o chapter_n where_o the_o witness_n against_o infant_n baptism_n be_v defend_v but_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n it_o must_v be_v remember_v that_o the_o rest_n stand_v good_a as_o not_o except_v against_o second_o you_o have_v the_o testimony_n baptism_n 2._o the_o witness_n bear_v to_o baptism_n after_o faith_n by_o those_o that_o own_a infant_n baptism_n bear_v to_o this_o truth_n by_o many_o eminent_a man_n and_o church_n that_o have_v own_v and_o practise_v infant_n baptism_n since_o the_o impose_v thereof_o some_o of_o who_o be_v these_o that_o follow_v as_o you_o find_v they_o in_o the_o respective_a century_n viz_o chrysostom_n austin_n gregory_n cassiodorus_n haimo_n rabanus_n anselm_n algerus_n rupertus_n lombard_n albertus_n belarmine_n grotius_n luther_n calvin_n hamond_n dailly_n tayler_n baxter_n church_n of_o england_n all_o or_o most_o of_o they_o affirm_v with_o the_o church_n of_o england_n that_o faith_n and_o repentance_n be_v require_v in_o all_o those_o that_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v viz._n repentance_n whereby_o they_o forsake_v sin_n and_o faith_n whereby_o they_o steadfast_o believe_v the_o promise_n to_o all_o which_o testimony_n mr._n will_v especial_o quarrel_v i_o for_o pervert_v as_o he_o say_v testimony_n mr._n will_n exception_n against_o this_o part_n for_o the_o testimony_n their_o say_n against_o there_o intend_a sense_n by_o improve_n what_o they_o say_v for_o adult_v baptism_n wherein_o they_o mean_v only_a stranger_n and_o pagan_n convert_v to_o the_o faith_n against_o infant_n baptism_n which_o be_v in_o a_o other_o way_n and_o upon_o a_o other_o account_n and_o for_o be_v so_o notorious_o contradictious_a to_o myself_o in_o say_v they_o be_v for_o believer_n baptism_n in_o one_o part_n of_o the_o history_n and_o yet_o the_o same_o man_n and_o counsel_n for_o infant_n baptism_n in_o a_o other_o reply_v to_o to_o which_o i_o say_v that_o by_o quote_v their_o say_n that_o be_v so_o express_o for_o we_o though_o it_o may_v be_v not_o intend_v so_o i_o have_v do_v no_o injury_n anab●ptist_n 1._o not_o quote_v for_o anab●ptist_n first_o because_o i_o do_v not_o quote_v they_o as_o anabaptist_n or_o to_o prove_v that_o believer_n baptism_n be_v 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will_v only_o take_v notice_n of_o so_o partial_a be_v he_o in_o his_o remark_n six_o vicecome_v 6._o vicecome_v vicecome_v l._n 2._o ch_n 1._o that_o the_o henerici_fw-la and_o apostoloci_n deny_v infant_n baptism_n seven_o doctor_n hamond_n confess_v hamond_n 7._o dr._n hamond_n that_o peter_n bruis_n and_o henry_n his_o scholar_n and_o the_o petro_n brusiani_fw-la and_o henricani_n that_o spring_v from_o they_o oppose_a infant_n baptism_n tomb_n 3._o review_n pag._n 827._o to_o all_o which_o testimony_n mr._n will_n give_v in_o this_o exception_n pag._n 53._o etc._n etc._n that_o most_o of_o this_o witness_n be_v gather_v from_o lie_v papist_n especial_o two_o lie_a abbot_n bernard_n and_o cluniacenses_fw-la and_o tell_v i_o in_o as_o much_o as_o i_o have_v cite_v osiander_n he_o doubt_v it_o may_v be_v some_o prejudice_n to_o my_o cause_n because_o what_o ever_o osiander_n say_v of_o peter_n bruis_n and_o henericus_n deny_v infant_n baptism_n he_o take_v it_o out_o of_o the_o 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