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in_o this_o affair_n epiphanius_n be_v the_o first_o i_o mention_v as_o a_o witness_n 75._o haeres_fw-la 75._o but_o because_o i_o cite_v no_o word_n of_o he_o and_o my_o adversary_n have_v cite_v they_o for_o i_o but_o imperfect_o and_o leave_v out_o the_o word_n where_o the_o argument_n lie_v i_o shall_v set_v they_o down_o at_o length_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n we_o make_v mention_n of_o the_o just_a and_o of_o sinner_n for_o sinner_n that_o we_o may_v implore_v the_o mercy_n of_o god_n for_o they_o for_o the_o just_a the_o father_n the_o patriarch_n the_o prophet_n evangelist_n and_o martyr_n confessor_n bishop_n and_o anachoret_n that_o prosecute_a the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n with_o a_o singular_a honour_n we_o separate_v these_o from_o the_o rank_n of_o other_o man_n and_o give_v due_a worship_n to_o his_o divine_a majesty_n while_o we_o account_v that_o he_o be_v not_o to_o be_v make_v equal_a to_o mortal_a man_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d although_o they_o have_v a_o thousand_o time_n more_o righteousness_n than_o they_o have_v now_o first_o here_o be_v mention_v make_v of_o all_o in_o their_o prayer_n and_o oblation_n and_o yet_o no_o mention_n make_v that_o the_o church_n pray_v for_o one_o sort_n and_o only_o give_v thanks_o for_o the_o other_o 25._o letter_n pag._n 10._o truth_n will_v out_o pag._n 25._o as_o these_o gentleman_n the_o objector_n false_o pretend_v but_o here_o be_v a_o double_a separation_n make_v of_o the_o righteous_a depart_v one_o be_v from_o the_o worse_a sort_n of_o sinner_n the_o other_o from_o the_o most_o righteous_a saviour_n true_a it_o be_v they_o believe_v they_o have_v more_o need_n to_o pray_v for_o some_o than_o for_o other_o but_o if_o they_o do_v not_o pray_v for_o all_o when_o they_o make_v mention_v of_o all_o how_o do_v they_o honour_n christ_n by_o separate_v their_o condition_n from_o he_o be_v it_o not_o lawful_a to_o give_v thanks_o for_o the_o life_n and_o death_n for_o the_o 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he_o can_v not_o mean_v any_o thing_n else_o and_o because_o he_o be_v then_o write_v against_o aerius_n who_o do_v not_o deny_v it_o to_o be_v lawful_a to_o give_v god_n thanks_o for_o the_o saint_n depart_v but_o affirm_v it_o to_o be_v needless_a to_o pray_v for_o they_o viz._n he_o must_v mean_v this_o of_o the_o church_n pray_v for_o all_o her_o dead_a or_o else_o he_o have_v say_v nothing_o against_o his_o adversary_n or_o for_o his_o own_o cause_n s._n cyril_n though_o he_o be_v confident_o deny_v to_o have_v say_v what_o he_o do_v say_v yet_o be_v confess_v to_o have_v say_v these_o word_n 11._o a._n l_o p._n 11._o then_o we_o pray_v for_o the_o decease_a father_n and_o bishop_n and_o final_o for_o all_o who_o among_o we_o have_v depart_v this_o life_n believe_v it_o to_o be_v a_o very_a great_a help_n of_o the_o soul_n 5._o mysta_fw-la catech._n 5._o for_o which_o be_v offer_v the_o obsecration_n of_o the_o holy_a and_o dreadful_a sacrifice_n if_o s._n cyril_n mean_v what_o his_o word_n signify_v than_o the_o church_n do_v pray_v for_o depart_a saint_n for_o they_o pray_v for_o all_o the_o depart_a father_n and_o bishop_n it_o be_v hard_a if_o among_o they_o there_o be_v no_o saint_n but_o suppose_v that_o yet_o if_o there_o be_v any_o saint_n at_o all_o that_o die_v out_o of_o the_o militant_a church_n yet_o the_o case_n be_v the_o same_o for_o they_o pray_v for_o all_o the_o depart_a and_o 2._o they_o offer_v the_o dreadful_a sacrifice_n for_o they_o all_o 3._o they_o offer_v it_o for_o all_o in_o the_o way_n of_o prayer_n 4._o and_o they_o believe_v this_o to_o be_v a_o great_a help_n to_o soul_n now_o unless_o the_o soul_n of_o all_o saint_n that_o die_v then_o go_v to_o purgatory_n which_o i_o be_o sure_a the_o roman_a doctor_n dare_v not_o own_o the_o case_n be_v plain_a that_o prayer_n and_o not_o thanksgiving_n only_o be_v offer_v by_o the_o ancient_a church_n for_o soul_n who_o by_o the_o confession_n of_o all_o side_n never_o go_v to_o 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s._n chrysostoms_n liturgy_n be_v very_o clear_a for_o it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o priest_n turn_v himself_o to_o our_o saviour_n picture_n and_o bow_v his_o head_n before_o the_o picture_n and_o say_v this_o prayer_n these_o word_n indeed_o be_v very_o plain_a but_o it_o be_v not_o plain_a that_o these_o be_v s._n chrysostoms_n word_n for_o their_o be_v none_o such_o in_o s._n chrysostoms_n liturgy_n in_o the_o edition_n of_o it_o by_o claudius_n de_fw-fr saintes_n or_o morellus_n and_o claudius_n espencaeus_fw-la acknowledge_v with_o great_a truth_n and_o ingenuity_n that_o this_o liturgy_n begin_v and_o compose_v by_o s._n chrysostom_n be_v enlarge_v by_o many_o thing_n put_v into_o it_o according_a to_o the_o variety_n of_o time_n and_o it_o be_v evident_o so_o because_o divers_a person_n be_v there_o commemorate_a who_o live_v after_o the_o death_n of_o chrysostom_n as_o cyrillus_n euthymius_n sabas_n and_o johannes_n eleemosynarius_n whereof_o the_o last_o but_o one_o live_v 126._o year_n the_o last_o 213._o year_n after_o s._n chrysostom_n now_o how_o likely_a nay_o how_o certain_a it_o be_v that_o this_o very_a passage_n be_v not_o put_v in_o by_o s._n chrysostom_n but_o be_v of_o late_a interpolation_n let_v all_o the_o world_n judge_v by_o that_o know_a saying_n of_o s._n chrysostom_n 3_o commentâ—_n in_o isai._n c._n 2._o t_o 3_o quid_fw-la enim_fw-la est_fw-la vilius_fw-la atque_fw-la humilius_fw-la homine_fw-la ante_fw-la res_fw-la inanimatas_fw-la se_fw-la incurvante_n &_o saxa_fw-la venerante_fw-la what_o in_o the_o world_n be_v base_a and_o more_o abject_a than_o to_o see_v a_o man_n worship_v stone_n and_o bow_v himself_o before_o inanimate_a thing_n these_o be_v his_o great_a authority_n which_o be_v now_o come_v to_o nothing_o what_o he_o have_v from_o they_o who_o come_v after_o these_o i_o shall_v leave_v to_o he_o to_o make_v his_o best_a of_o they_o for_o about_o the_o time_n of_o gregory_n some_o begin_v to_o worship_v image_n and_o 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&_o svam_fw-la &_o cujusdam_fw-la meretricis_fw-la quam_fw-la sibi_fw-la sociam_fw-la scelerum_fw-la fecerat_fw-la discipulis_fw-la suis_fw-la praebuisse_fw-la adorandas_fw-la e._n w._n upon_o what_o confidence_n i_o know_v not_o say_z that_o theodoret_n have_v nothing_o like_o it_o either_o under_o the_o title_n de_fw-fr simone_n or_o carpocrate_n and_o he_o say_v true_a but_o with_o a_o shameful_a purpose_n to_o calumniate_v i_o and_o deceive_v his_o reader_n as_o if_o i_o have_v quote_v a_o thing_n that_o theodoret_n say_v not_o and_o therefore_o the_o reader_n ought_v not_o to_o believe_v i_o but_o since_o in_o the_o dissuasive_a theodoret_n be_v only_o quote_v lib._n 5._o haeret_fw-la fin_n cum_fw-la ejus_fw-la statuam_fw-la in_o jovis_n figuram_fw-la construxissent_fw-la helenae_n autem_fw-la in_o minerva_fw-la speciem_fw-la eye_v thura_fw-la adolebant_fw-la &_o libabant_fw-la &_o tanquam_fw-la deos_fw-la adorabant_fw-la simonianos_n seipsos_fw-la nominantes_fw-la theodoret._n 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