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A02199 More vvorke for priests: or An answere to George Giffords pretended defence of read prayers and devised leitourgies comprised in the first part of his booke; intituled A short treatise against the Donatists of England: wherein is proved that the serving of God in such away [sic] and manner is a superstitious and vaine worship. Written by John Greenwood Christs faythfull martyr: here-unto is added by another man, many other argumers [sic] against stinted service and booke-prayer.; Answere to George Giffords pretended defence of read praiers and devised litourgies Greenwood, John, d. 1593. 1640 (1640) STC 12341; ESTC S103421 44,326 116

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