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A89824 An answer to a book called The Quakers catechism, put out by Richard Baxter. Wherein the slanderer is searched, his questions answered, and his deceit discovered, whereby the simple have been deceived: and the popery proved in his own bosom, which he would cast upon the Quakers. Published for the sake of all who desire to come out of Babylon, to the foundation of the true prophets and apostles, where Christ Iesus is the light and corner stone; where God is building a habitation of righteousness and everlasting peace; where the children of light do rest. Also some quæries for the discovering the false grounds of the literal preist-hood of these days, in the last times of antichrist. If you know the truth, the truth shall make you free. / Iames Nailor. Naylor, James, 1617?-1660. 1655 (1655) Wing N258; Thomason E851_1; ESTC R207416 51,999 51

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had no Religion inclines to them I say therefore one day shall those whom you have most setled in your deceit have most cause to curse you when they shall see them come from far and sit down in the Kingdom and themselves cast out Saist thou I had far rather they had continued Separatists and Anabaptists then turn Quakers therefore wouldst do all thou canst to hinder I say thy Generation of Priests was ever haters of the greatest appearance of truth and that we can witness When we were of those Churches we were hated by you when we walked as near as we could to the Letter though the life we knew not but now you have ceased your envy against all them and against the Life and Light of Christ in us is your greatest envy And saist thou It s better to stop them where there 's some hope of Salvation then let them run to perdition I say thou hast undertaken two ways to stop us one is with lies and slanders which thy Book is full of and another way taken with thee and thy Generation is to get us stopt into Dungeons and Prisons and strait watch set that none come to us nor that we may have liberty to write nor speak to any But the latter of these is holden by you for the better weapon yet both to no purpose further then to prove our patience and obedience in Jesus and yourselves of your Father and in his works acting that by them ye may be known and we also But says thou I chose rather to tell the world of these passages between us then leave them to their reports especially hearing how they increase in London and other parts and that the ignorant have need of some plain information to prevent their Apostacy and Perdition in this temptation I say they are ignorant indeed that needs thy information and what thou tellest is most suitable to the world to be believed for all who owns that light that leads out of the world or where that ey● is open that leads out of the world thy false information is judged and prevented thy perdition and thy temptation and with that Light that sees thee and thy deceit shall we grow both in London and other parts and thy refuge of lies be swept away AS to thy Paper to the Separatists and Anabaptists as thou calls them I desire not to be busie in other mens matters onely this whereas thou casts it on the separated people to be nurseries of impiety and Infidels I say thou dost but here manifest thy shameless Spirit who matters not what thou sayest of others so thou may but seek thy own praise for all that know any thing of the fear of God knows that most of those people have separated from you parish Teachers upon this very account to wit your infidelity and impiety and if any amongst them turn so grosly filthy that they cannot keep them amongst them left it should shame their Religion yet these return to you who forthwith receive them and boast of them as rare Converts nay none so bad in their conversation but if they have but either Pig or Goose or ought to be got towards hire they are yours and you are their masters such as no one Sort of people in the Nation will joyn with but onely you Parish Teachers But it seems thou hast lost some of thine also as well as the Anabaptists and thou prints a Letter thou saist thou sent to one of them to reclaim him under pretence that he desired thy thoughts of us and thy evil thoughts thou returns him in this Letter And thou says He was a yong and unsetled one yet tells how much pains he had taken in duty how much zeal he had professed for God And that he by so great a work of grace was converted from prophaneness c. and thus with thine own shame thou goes about to cover thee having boasted afore as though none followed us but separated people or such as had no Religion or ever was accounted so to be And thou goes on to shew him that he must needs be fallen from grace because he is fallen from your Ministry and thy Arguments are such as these Are not we those Ministers and in those Ordinances you despised before Conversion I say The greatest Papist in the world having begot a Proselyte if he turn away from him may as well use that Argument as thou if falling from any such form or person be the error but thou should have first proved thy self a Minister of Christ in thy life and thy worship as he appointed it and not changed in matter or manner then hadst thou said somewhat to the purpose else it s no error to deny the hireling and his false worship and turn to the light of Christ by it to be guided by all deceits And says thou Alass that ever a man in his wits should no better know the work of Christ from Satans nor know that it is the Dragon whose warfare these men do manage I say Thou shameless one dost thou cause the servants of the living God to be hailed to prison and suffer them almost to be murthered before thy face not at all resisting but the people by thee stirred up to the thing and for no other thing but coming to declare to thy face against thy false worship which God ever sent his servants to do And faist thou We manage the war of the Dragon and do the work of Satan Is not the war of the Dragon to devour the Lamb where he is manifest which ever was the work the hirelings was found in and is it not the Devil that casts into Prison the innocent Rev. 2. 9 10. and was ever any under the Gospel found in that work but such who was of the synagogue of Satan though they called themselves Jews as you call your selves Christians but in the same nature and deeds And do we manage the Dragons war who suffer all this at your hands and much more prove that in Scriptures or be ashamed of thy false accusation and take it to thy self till thy rage cease and thou give over devouring the Lambs Such never take pains with mens souls who takes care and lays snares to destroy their bodies Christs sheep was never such wolves by their fruits we know them they who believe these to be Christs Ministers may soon believe the Devil is God as thou saist who would be worshipped and obeyed in you Thou further goes on and tells him whence this error comes even from Hellish pride and to prove this thou tells him Where we have spent one hour thou hast spent an hundred in study and meditation and prays to God for his Spirit of truth and grace and that thy Prayers is as earnest as ours and thy life is much more holy and heavenly then ours and therefore God is as it were more ingaged to thee to make known his truth to thee then to us and is not
this apparent pride for us to be so confident that we are wise and beloved in the eyes of God and that we run about with the shels on our head c. in comparison of thee I say the hellish pride thou hast plainly discovered where it is But whose righteousness is all this by which thou hast thus ingaged God to thee who art but yet praying for the Spirit of truth and grace will God be ingaged with thy graceless lying spirit which thou uses in this thy Book wherein thou utters so many graceless untruths to ingage the world to thee thou art mistaken God will not be so ingaged nor with that Spirit he will be served with his own Thy earnest prayers and righteousness before the Spirit of truth and grace and without it how they ingage God thou mayest read in 1 Kings 18. from the 16. to the 30. and Luke 18. 11 12. and there thou may read thy boasting lines and their acceptance and thy ingagements and thy name We know God freely gives a measure of his Spirit to every one of us freely to profit withal and improving that to his praise we receive more freely and we are so far from ingagement of God by all we do that we finde our selves unprofitable servants but this thou knowest not with thy va●n light words who tells of our running away with the shell on our head Our head thou knows not who must break thee to pieces with all thy light boasting vain words Thou tells of Paul forewarning Timothy to ordain none who was a novice lest he should be lifted up with pride and so fall into the condemnation of the Devil then thou mayest take this back a●ain and apply it and therein read thy self and thy end in whom the pride is sound and not in the Quakers and they are blinde who cannot see it And tho● saist Pride is the master sin of the Quakers and thou proves it because that we go in a poor garb and cry our-against pride as if we were sent from Heaven to perswade men to wear no lace cuffs or points and to damn so many Ministers for being called Master But saist thou spiritual pride is the most killing and so goes on railing against us for these things calling that spirit in scorn An excellent Spirit that can trample on all worldly glory I say Blasphemer thou shalt know when thou hast finished thy rage that thou hast spoken against the holy Spirit of God sent from Heaven which both in Christ and his Apostles did perswade against and condemn such things which thou by the spirit of the Devil would uphold and dost plead for and thou sets down four particulars wherein thou wilt prove our language of Hell and the Devil speaking by our mouthes and the first is They affirm themselves perfect without sin and this thou saist is unpossible and they are mad that believe it I say That we affirm self-perfection is but thy lying slander or that we say we are Christ or God as thou saist we do but that we witness perfection from sin so far as we have received Christ we own it as Gods commands and guift the end of Christs coming and of giving forth his Ministery as these Scriptures may witness Matth. 5. 48. James 1. 17. 1 John 3. 8. Eph. 4. 11 12. 13. And that it was the work of the Ministery whereunto they labored read Col. 1. 28 29. and thou that Ministers against this and calls it the Language of Hell and the Devils mouth which the Scriptures witness art a Blasphemer and a Minister of Antichrist and it s no railing to judge the tree by its fruit and when thou hast done Thou saist the Devil himself hath less pride then to think himself perfect without sin and if we have no sin what need we pray or what need have we of the blood of Christ I say Thy confusion is manifest who before accused us that the Devil spake this in our mouthes and now thou art clearing him of it but what hast thou to do or he either with perfection who art out of Christ and in your own wills worldly-pleasing and envious murtherers in rage what perfection is there unless perfect wickedness neither doth perfection exclude praying and the blood of Christ for in his blood and prayer it is wrought and we kept Thy second thing is That we set up our selves above all the people of God on earth that we vilifie the most holy and eminent servants of God and condemn all the Churches of the World To which I shall say no more but this That these are three of thy lies rancked up together lest thou should fail Thy third thing is That we damn all the people of God for 1600. years at least I say This may well be matter of offence to thee to deny all thy Generation since the Pop● to this day therefore thou call'st it unmatchable pride but ●or those whom you have tortured martyred and burned whipt and imprisoned to this day who suffered for conscience sake follow●ng the Lamb in their measure them we own and with them we suffer though thou say God had never such a people on earth of these mens ways yet was this the Church of Christ whereof he was the head and is the head and there it was visible and there it is to all who are not blinde but none of these pleaded for honorable Titles as thou dost nor none ever did that believed such was ever out of the faith read James 2. to the 10 verse John 5. 4. and 44. and if these be the few Hereticks thou tells on that thou says were our Predecessors of old I say We cannot but own these in their measure though we go under the name of Hereticks with them by the same Generation Thy fourth thing is That which thou callest our proud scornful railing Language which thou saist should put it out of doubt what spirit we are of to any who are acquainted with Christs Spirit and of Satan and are able to judge of Spirits and know darkness from light I say The Language of Christ we use to thee who a●t found in the work of Satan therefore thou canst not bear it but thy filthy ●nclean words thou hast cast upon us in thy Book which none in Scripture ever used we shall leave to the judgement of Him that judges Spirits and to all who know light from darkness But thou fore-seeing thy self guilty makes an Objection It is Scripture Language which they speak and when thou hast done deceitfully answerest saying The greater your presumptious sin in making so ill an use of Scripture Language and calls it serving Satan and thus thou proves i● saying What if Christ called Judas a Devil is it therefore lawful to call Peter so I say yea If Peter be found in the Devils work Matth. 16. 23. much more thou and thy Generation who none of you yet came so far as Peter who denyed all to follow Christ but