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A44360 Due order of law and justice pleaded against irregular & arbitrary proceedings in the case and late imprisonment of George Whitehead and Thomas Burr in the city and county gaol of Norwich, from the 21st day of the 1st moneth called March, 1679, to the 12th day of the 5th moneth, called July, 1680 being an impartial account of the most material passages and letters to the magistrates relating to the said proceedings with the prisoners above said : wherein the people called Quakers are vindicated and cleared from popery : published for information and caution on the behalf of true Protestants and English-mens birth-rights. Hookes, Ellis, d. 1681. 1680 (1680) Wing H2660; ESTC R7941 74,567 109

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Exercise of Religious Worship in other manner than according to the Liturgy and Practice of the Church of England or in other mannor than is allowed thereby Answ We answer 1 st That the words Colour or Pretence have relation to the Preamble as Who under pretenve of tender Conscience have or may at their Meetings contrive Insurrections as late Experience hath shewn But such pretence or colour of Religious Exercise for any such Contrivance were Abominable Deceit and Hypocrifie and never chargeable upon us or our Assemblies We can challenge the whole VVorld to detect us herein 2 dly We are not conscious to our selves of any such matter of Fact committed in our Assemblies and on our part which the Liturgy or Practice of the Church of England allows not If we be herein charged let 's know what it is that we have done in our Assemblies which the Liturgy and Practice of the Church of England allows not of seeing the Liturgy allows of the holy Scriptures which we are sure allow of and enjoyn Christians Assembling together to wait upon and worship God in Spirit and Truth and of the manner thereof as to the places whether in Houses or abroad in Fields or Mountains which is our case both as to the matter and manner of our Assemblies Obj. If it be still objected That our Meetings are under colour and pretence of an Exercise of Religious Worship in other manner than according to the Liturgy and Practice of the Church of England Answ We answer 1 st What that exercise of Religious worship is that is in other manner than according to the Liturgy should be explained unto us and that according to Law seeing this late Act against Conventicles does not explain What Manner ' t is But 2 dly we find in a Statute made in the first year of Queen Elizabeth Chap. 2. That that other Manner is thus explained viz. † What other Manner the Liturgy allows not That if any Person or Persons whatsoever shall by open Fact Deed or shall by open Threatnings compell or cause or otherwise procure or maintain any Parson Vicar or other Minister in any Cathedrial or Parish Church Chappel or in any other place to sing or say any common and open Prayer or to minister any Sacrament otherwise or in any other Manner and Form than is mentioned in the said BOOK c. This does not at all reach our case we are not found guilty hereof and therefore are not condemnable by the Law in this case this concerned the Clergy not us and we neither threaten compel cause or any wise procure or maintain any Parson Vicar or any else to sing or say any common or open Prayer or to minister any Sacrament in any Cathedrial or Parish-Church c. we are so far from that we compel No Body to any Form of Singing or Praying in God's Worship but perswade men to serve and worship God as he directs and for that end desire all may come to his divine Grace and good Spirit in their Hearts to guide them in his holy Worship both as to matter and manner of praying and praising his Name that they may serve and worship him not in the oldness of the Letter but in the newness of the Spirit for such he is even in our days seeking to worship him as must worship him in Spirit and in Truth and such both pray with the Spirit and sing with the Spirit and with Understanding according to the antient Apostolical Testimony and Practice of the Primitive Spiritual Christians Norwich An Account of the People called Quakers sent to Prison by Francis Bacon when he was Steward and also since he was Recorder and those Mayors of the City of Norwich who joyned with him since the late Act against Conventicles 22 Car. 2. came forth 1670. THe 10th of the Moneth called July 1670. Thomas Buddery John Rust Edward Monk William Waymor and Anthony Alexander were sent to Prison upon pretence of a Riot for telling People as they passed to the Mayors House there were the Informers when people were inquisitive to know which they were by a Warrant from the then Mayor and Francis Bacon Steward signifying no crime in the War●…nt but till they could find Sureties for the Behaviour where they were in Prison till the Sessions and an Indictment brought against them for a Riot but the Grand Jury were found better Justices and would not find the Bill They were detained Prisoners about five weeks 1670. Samuel Duncon and Anthony Alexander in the year 1670. made their Appeal where in stead of having Justice done them the said Francis Bacon being Judge of the Sessions did absolutely surprize them by his Illegal Proceedings refusing to give them a Copy of the Records and made one Witness being also a party serve his turn and the Act says there must be Two for which they wrote to the Mayor Steward and Court of Aldermen telling them of their Injustice and for so doing they were committed to Prison by the said Mayor till they should find Sureties for their appearance at Sessions upon pretence of scandalous Expressions in their said Letter who was observed to Tremble when he signed the Mittimus and for it they were kept Prisoners about A YEAR 1676. Thomas Atkins was taken out of a Meeting the 17th of the 5th Moneth 1676. by Constables and Informers and being had before the Mayor and Fr. Bacon Steward and several Aldermen in their Council-Chamber some of them being very bitter and cruel saying he should pay his 20 l. and they tendered him the Oath of Allegiance and he refusing to Swear they sent him to Prison where he was detained about fourteen Weeks 1678. Thomas Murford had his doors broke open by a Constable having a Warrant from Francis Bacon Recorder for 20 l. Thomas being not at home who made his Appeal when he came home but the Recorder being Judge and having a Jury for his purpose carried the Case and from the Court committed Thomas to Prison where he was detained twenty Weeks 1678. Simon Gogny was sent to Prison the 16th of the 1st Moneth 1678. by Francis Bacon Recorder till he should find Sureties for his good Behaviour Because the said Simon spoke to him when he came himself to break our Meeting something on that occasion by way of Warning telling him of Empson and Dudly he was detained eight Weeks and odd dayes 1679. Thomas Buddery was sent to Prison by Francis Bacon Recorder the 30th day of the 1st Moneth 1679. till he should find Sureties for the Peace so expressed in his Mittimus Because he answered in defence of Truth in these words viz. The Service of God is Perfect Freedom he was detained in Prison six weeks odd dayes Norwich A brief Account of what Goods have been taken from some of the People called Quakers in Norwich since the Year 1670. to this 30th day of the 1st Moneth 1680. by Warrants from Francis Bacon
That is by our living peaceably under the King and Government R. Do you scruple any Word or thing contained in the Oath If you do tell us what it is G.W. We both own and can sign the Declaration of Allegiance in opposition to the Pope and Popery And to those Seditious or Treasonable Practices and Positions abjured and renounced by that Oath R. Do you hold it unlawful to take an Oath in any case G.W. We are not commited to Prison to answer to Questions at Sessions but to Answer to the Premisses contained in our Mittimus R. Do you not hold it lawful to tell a Lye i.e. an Officious Lye to prevent an eminent danger c. or to that effect G.W. No by no means that 's not a true Protestant Principle to tell or maintain an Officious Lye so called R. Will you take the Oath c. If you will hold up your Hand as a Testimony that you do take the Oath or Swear that shall serve c. G.W. We have a Protestation or Declaration against the Pope Popery which was delivered to the Committee of Parliament and thereby judged sufficient to distinguish us from Popish Recusants We crave leave of the Court to read it R. What difference is there between a Protestation and an Oath G.W. It may be a Protestation or Testimony against Popery yet not an Oath I pray you let 's read our Protestation that we may not lie under Suspition without cause Court You may Read it The Protestation read in Court which followeth A Protestation or Declaration to distinguish Protestant Dissenters from Popish Recusants I A.B. do in the presence of Almighty God solemnly profess and in good Conscience declare It is my real Judgment that the Church of Rome is not the Church of Christ nor the Pope or Bishop of Rome Christ's Vicar And his or their Doctrines of deposing Heretical Princes and of absolving their Subjects of their Obedience Of Purgatory and Prayers for the Dead Of Indulgences and worshipping of Images Of adorning and praying to the Virgin Mary and other Saints deceased And of Transubstantiation or changing the Elements of Bread and Wine into the Body and Blood of Christ at or after the Consecration thereof by any Person whatsoever are False Erroneous and contrary to the Truth of God declared in the holy Scriptures And therefore that the Communion of the said Church is Superstitious and Idolatrous And I do likewise sincerely testifie and declare That I do from the bottom of my Heart detest and abhor all Plots and Conspiracies that are or may be contrived against the King or Parliament or People of this Realm or the true Protestant Religion therein professed And I do hereby faithfully Promise by God's help to live a peaceable and sober Life as becometh a good Christian and Protestant to do And all this I do acknowledge intend declare and subscribe without any Equivocation or Mental Reservation according to the true Plainness Simplicity and Usual signification of the Words Witness my Hand G.W. This was excepted by a great Committee and entred the Journal of Parliament in order to distinguish us from Popish Recusants c. R. We have not a Law to except it 'T is not enacted or made a Law We must proceed according to Law c. You seem to declare for the true Protestant Religion c. When you dissent from the Church of England ‖ This renders Protestancy but in a narrow compass as if all Dissenters were no Protestants I am not in that Point satisfied with your Declaration or to that effect G.W. We have no Mental Reservation in the case We are willing and ready to sign this Declaration Interrupted when about adding these Words viz. The true Protestant Religion is wholly opposit to Popery It stands in Protestation or Testimony against Popery 'T is a Negative Testimony thereof So far as any Protestants in the Church of England or elsewhere do really protest against and sincerely disown Popery so far are we of the same Judgment with them But there are Protestants of several degrees some are more refined and more clear of Popery than others G.W. Is there any Evidence against us to prove the Premisses contained in our Mittimus Where are our Accusers R. The Premisses what are they G.W. The being at an unlawful Assembly in disturbance of the publick Peace as is pretended against us Let 's be tryed and either condemned or acquitted hereupon R. I was more favourable to you than you deserved For I could have drawn an Indictment against you at Common Law and brought you to a Tryal upon it Which being found against you I must have fined you R. We who are in Commission for the Peace are Lex loquens and to give the true meaning of the Law We are not to make Laws but to Interpret the Law We are to punish or amerce Offenders secundum Qualitatem secundum qualitatem delicti c. G.W. We are not at present about to justifie our selves as to matter of Fact We are willing to hear Evidence what any can prove against us in relation to our Assemblies Let 's have due Process R. If the Court will agree to it wee 'l Adjourn And I will provide an Indictment and give order that the Witnesses shall be here and will give it to the Grand ●nquest And if they find it against you you shall be fined Forty Pound and Imprisonment till payed c. Prisoner It seems the Witnesses are yet to procure Is there any here that can give Evidence against our Meeting of the breach of the Peace c. R. That 's a Lye I did not say I would procure Witnesses that 's Scandalous T.B. We desire that no advantage may be taken against us for a Word You ought not to take advantage c. G.W. I intended no offence in the word Procure I intended it not in the worst Sense i e. as by way of Subornation for I intended no other than according to the Recorders own Words That Witnesses should be here or the like which doubtless many present heard Prisoner Well we refuse not to be Tryed upon the Charge in our Mittimus touching our Meeting c. R. You shall have the Oath put to you And I 'le tell you what danger you incur If you refuse to take it you are to be put out of the King's protection your Lands and Estates forfeit to the King and your Bodies Imprisoned during the King's pleasure c. G.W. We understand what a Praemunire means according to the Statute of Praemunire made in the sixteenth Year of King Richard the second Though there 's no Equity that should be brought upon us whilst we Practice our Allegiance Suppose we cannot for Conscience sake Swear 'T is but hard measure to bring us under the penalty of Praemunire for that cause only What Equity can there be in it Seeing we utterly deny the Pope and Popery c. To which we may justly