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A29128 The conviction of James Naylor and his black spirit demonstrated from his own confessions, lyes, evasions, and contradictions in the maine points of doctrine by him held forth against the truth in answer to a book of his called Wickednesse weighed : the which was writt in answer to a little treatise called The Quakers quaking principles examined and refuted, written by Ellis Bradshavv ... / written by Ellis Bradshavve. Bradshaw, Ellis. 1656 (1656) Wing B4140; ESTC R37455 43,826 56

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at all but such who are really holy and wise and faithfull Eighthly Whether their message tendeth not to bring us into spirituall bondage As to such and such wayes and formes or ceremonies and practises under paine of damnation which doe not appeare to be absolutely necessary and that from Scripture grounds But rather suspect that they goe about to destroy our faith by bringing us under a Covenant of workes and so to keepe us in bondage that wee can never attaine to a full assurance of faith but as it were a doubtfull case depending wholy upon our good behaviour For God requireth a full assurance of faith and that in God through Christ Jesus that so our Joy might be full yea such as is unspeakable and full of glory For if our faith and assurance be not full there is likewise a defect in our love and so by consequence in our Joy in the Lord. Ninthly And above all things observe whether their message and businesse tendeth to provoke us unto love and good workes or unto wrath and bitternesse or some displeasure against our knowne brethren Rea. For he that biddeth us provoke one another unto good works never doth provoke us to the contrary himselfe nor ought wee to obey if an Angell from heaven should so provoke us but let him be accursed And that wee might know how to discerne the motions and lustings of the spirit and flesh each from the other that so wee might not be led blindfold to destruction by any deluding spirits within us nor without take these Scripture Rules to wit see Gala. 5.16 17. saith the Apostle Walke in the spirit and yee shall not fullfill the lust of the flesh For the flesh lustech against the spirit and the spirit against the flesh and these are contrary the one to the other so that yee cannot doe the things that yee would And on purpose that wee might be Resolved how to know the one from the other hee pointeth them out by their fruits that so wee might know their tendency in the first motions or lustings of them and be lead by the spirit and not by the flesh to wit see vers 19 20 21. saith he Now the workes of the flesh are manifest which are these Adulterie fornication uncleannes lasciviousnesse Idolatrie witchcraft hatred variance emulations wrath strife sedition heresies envyings murthers drunkennes revellings and such like of the which I tell you before as I have also told you in times past that they which doe such things shall not inherit the kingdome of God Now it is easie to discerne if wee doe observe even the lustings of our spirits in the first motion whether they tend to the producing of any of these or such like effects yea or no And so by the strict observation of these Rules wee may Resist them in their first motions and mortifie such evill and corrupt affections in their first Rise through the gratious assistance of the Spirit of God whose fruits are also noted out for that purpose also that wee might know them and cherish and obey them and be lead thereby to wit Love joy peace long-suffering gentlenes goodnesse faith meeknesse temperance against which there is no Law see vers 22 23. To all which wee may joyne the wisdome which cometh from above which is first pure then peaceable gentle and easie to be intreated full of mercy and good fruits without partialitie and without hypocrisie and the fruit of righteousnesse is sowne in peace of them that make peace see James 3.17 18. And further the Apostle saith in another place that the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodnesse and Righteousnesse and truth And see also 1 Cor. 13.4 5 6 7. The nature or properties of love or charitie to wit Love suffereth long and is kinde it envyeth not vaunteth not it selfe is not puffed up c As so I might be large in shewing the nature of that love which is a fruit of the Spirit from every one of these properties And likewise of the contraries for the Scripture is full of such directions and notes As see on the contrary for it is not the Spirit of God but Sathan and our owne flesh that maketh men lovers of their owne selves covetous boasters proud disobedient to parents unthankfull unholy c. see 2 Tim. 3.2 3 4 5. But I must not inlarge so farre as to descant upon all these and it is easie for any that will to try the spirits and the tendencie of their motions whether they lead us to good or evill by which wee may easily know from whence they proceed I shall therefore let these suffice for the present and follow him a little further to wit He saith againe pag. 11 And thou sayes then what need the teaching of James Naylor if this light within be sufficient I say saith he as a meanes to turne people to this light I am which the Devill useth all meanes hee can to turne them from To which I answer that it is herein evident that hee exalteth himselfe above the light of Christ and clearely disowneth the sufficiencie of that light for turning men to it without the helpe of James Naylor whom he ownes to be a meanes to turne them to that light For as I said before so I say againe that if all doe know the Lord already what need is there then of the teachings of James Naylor and his complices if their light within them be sufficient it can teach them all that he doth and all that hee knoweth and how to eye it onely and to looke within for light and to desert the teachings of men and despise them too as so hee doth And I say doth not James Naylor teach that the light of Christ is sufficient and that without the teachings of men or of the Scriptures And yet confesseth himselfe to be a teacher and a meanes to turne men to that light should hee not have added himselfe to that light for making it up sufficient if it be not sufficient without him as a meanes to turne people to it selfe and direct them to eye it onely as the onely light as so hee calleth it And how is it the onely light if it cannot inlighten people with so much light as to turne to it and eye it onely without James Naylor as a meanes Now if James Naylor and his writings and teachings bee a meanes and if hee also bringeth Scriptures to perswade and turne men to eye that light Why may not Scriptures be brought also by others besides the Quakens to turne men from darknesse unto light and from the power of Sathan unto God Where saith the Scripture that James Naylor and his complices must needs be added as a meanes for turning men to God and no body else nor any other doctrine but what James Naylor teacheth must be used as a meanes nor any Scriptures alledged but what hee bringeth nor any exposition or meaning of the Scriptures given forth but what hee giveth or
Christ yea or no see Gala 1.8 And if hee doth not repent his Judgement is passed already by the spirit of truth who cannot lye And then againe hee beginneth to charge mee for pleading for Reverent gestures to worship God in as well as in spirit The which I confesse I did For page 27. I asked where it is said in Scripture that God is not to be worshipped with reverend gestures of the body as well as in spirit and truth To which hee answereth And whereas thou art pleading for reverend gestures to worship God in as well as in spirit I say in at that doore came your Altars your bowings your surplices and conformities wherein the teachers of this Nation was leading back to Rome the mother of these witchcrafts if God had not stopt the way by his hand And now have you got a little peace and thither are you turning againe even in bloody persecuting against all who witnesse against you who testifies against these false wayes c. To which I answer that for ought I know there is no man enforced to worship either with Reverend gestures or without nor any man persecuted or troubled for any such things by any of the powers of this Nation And therefore this is a lye and a slander against those in Authoritie as is well knowne I need not proove it But I onely asked whether the Scripture forbid Reverend gestures of the body as well as in spirit and truth To which he doth not answer properly but sheweth his dislike thereof and that they testifie against such false wayes and gestures set up by the man of sinne In which he clearely condemneth the practice of Christ himselfe Luk. 22.41 And of Poter Act. 9.40 And of Paul Chap. 20.36 Chap. 21.5 Eph. 3.14 And of Daniell Dan. 6.11 And of Solomon 1 Kings 8.54 and 2 Chron. 6.13 And that as unlawfull and the pleading for the lawfullnesse of it an opening of a doore to Altars and bowings Surplices and conformities c. and a making way for an unparalelld persecution and a hasting on to destruction which he sees saith he to be the end of our Reverend gestures And saith he will not the gestures of the Saints serve your worship that which lookes so much out neglects that within so you plead against the Spirit Oh prophane and ungodly spirits It is not enough with them to slander the Magistrates and all that are in authoritie but they will slander the footsteps of the Lords anoynted even the Lord Jesus himselfe and all his anoynted ones from the beginning of the world who have all practised such Reverend gestures in their worshipping of God And then he saith will not the gestures of the Saints serve your worship Oh damnable hypocrisie are they Saints that reproach the practise and footsteps of the Lords anoynted see Psal 89.51 see whose enemies they are And doe they not therein Reproach the footsteps and wayes and gestures of all the Saints that ever lived on the earth And yet they will call themselves Saints as so alwayes did the Popes and Papists that were Devills incarnate and as absolute enemies to the Saints of God and so by consequence to the Lord himselfe as any in the world But for all his scornes it is the practise of the Saints that will serve our worships and all the Saints gestures that were Saints indeed wee cordially approve and account it lawfull to follow their stepps as occasion requires But as for the gestures of Saint James Naylor nor these his doctrines and slanders they will not serve our worships to approve or practise because the Spirit of truth and holines Ingageth us otherwise wee are naturally ingaged by the Spirit of God out of Reverend Respect to his glorious Majestie to serve him with Reverence and godly feare knowing that hee that is our God is a consuming fire see Heb 12.28 29. But if hee that privily slandereth his neighbour shall be cut off see Psal 101.5 Of how much sorer punishment shall hee be counted worthy that slandereth and Reproacheth even the sonne of God and his Reverend gestures in his prayers unto God Can this be any lesse then cleare despite unto the spirit of grace see Heb 10.29 It is a fearefull thing to fall into the hands of the living God see verse 31. It is no strange thing to mee to reade his scornes and reproaches and slanders and censures that in all his bookes hee houldeth forth and fumeth out most bitterly and maliciously against others or my selfe considering his fullnesse of venome and malice cannot be kept in but must burst forth like filthy vomit against the Lord of glory as in this appeares I shall not therefore much care nor take any great notice what hee saith by mee but shall as breifly as possible answer his maine points and referre the Reader to the bookes themselves for Resolution where the wickednesse lyeth for I desire no more but that they reade them both and then let them Judge Againe Pag. 15. hee falleth to worke about the Ministers which is the third maine head saying Thy third thing is for thy maintenance and for thy Ministerie I answer as for my maintenance there is not one word in all my booke as the Reader may see and that hee maketh lyes his Refuge when hee hath nothing to answer that is like the truth And as for Ministers maintenance and for the poore I have pleaded it and prooved it also and that from divers grounds and arguments from Scripture yea and Gospell foundations such as James Naylor never heard before nor have they been published before that I know off either by word or writing as I said in my Epistle the which hee calleth boasting but doth not nor cannot make it appeare to the contrary in the least neither can hee contradict the truth thereof nor blame them justly by any Rationall or spirituall argument though hee reciteth many of them as though hee intended a confutation but in the end cometh off with a faile perverting both my words and meaning that hee might finde breadth for a Reproofe which are but poore shifts for so eminent a Quaker For saith hee and that thou may get something or make a shew for this Religious worke thou art about and that thou may seeme to be a charitable man as Judas did thou putst in the poore with them but seeing there is as much difference betwixt them and the poore as betwixt Masters and beggers I shall therefore set the poore by themselves concerning whom I say be as liberall to them as thou wilt I answer that for my ends in this hee must not be Judge But for what cause hee should set apart the poore by themselves who were ever joyned together by the Lord himselfe when tithes were commanded they to have part as see And whom God hath joyned together I dare not seperate neither did the Apostles in the primitive times but what was given was distributed to all as