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A26853 An accompt of all the proceedings of the commissioners of both persvvasions appointed by His Sacred Majesty, according to letters patent, for the review of the Book of common prayer, &c. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1661 (1661) Wing B1177; ESTC R34403 133,102 166

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