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A77137 A defence and justification of ministers maintence by tythes. And of infant-baptism, humane learning, and the sword of the magistrate; which some Anabaptists falsely call four sandy pillars, and popish foundations of our ministry and churches. In which tythes are proved to be due by divine right to the ministers of the gospel. All common objections answered, and divers cases of conscience humbly proposed: with a light to clear them. / In a reply to a paper sent by some Anabaptists to Immanuel Bourne, late pastor of the church in Asheover in the county of Derby: now preacher to the congregation at Waltham in the county of Leicester. With a short answer to Anthony Peirson's great case of tythes, &c. Bourne, Immanuel, 1590-1672. 1659 (1659) Wing B3851; Thomason E1907_1 92,679 184

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seeth best and preserve us to his Heavenly Kingdom The Anabaptists answer and conclusion I come now to your conclusion which followeth in these words SIR I might have added hereunto many Arguments from the Scripture to prove what I affirmed but I judge them needless supposing that what is here contained is sufficient to convince you or any rational man in the world of the Grounds and Reasons of our Separation from your Assemblies Vale. John Darker Tobias Watson Mr. Bourn's Reply Friends I see you are very forgetful of what you boasted of in the first page of your sheet of paper That your Foundation Principles for as I understand you it is the Principle of your own Church you speak of if you account your selves your company a Church of God That these your Foundation Principles have Scripture as clear to prove them as the Sun at noon-day withou● the help of Consequences or Illustration but now it appeareth it was but a vapour for let the Reader consider and judge whether you have brought any one Scripture proof of these Points in Difference between us that is as clear as the Sun at noon day without a consequence or Illustration I am sure not one neither for your first second nor third Ground of Separation First you speak magisterially against Infant-membership and accuse us as if our Church were builded only of these but you prove it not and your places of Scripture are all consequences Ergo c. and so for your Second your places of Scripture are all falsely applyed they may belong rather to your selves than to us And for your Third which consists of your Friend Haggars four legs which you call Sandy Pillars and Popish Foundations if any shew of proof could have been it must have been by consequences of which here you bring none and so have neither proof nor shew of proof so that I may justly tell you what you had writ in your Paper is not sufficient to convince me or any rational man in the world of the sufficiency of the Grounds and Reasons of your separation from our Assemblies Therefore I hope if God be pleased to open your eyes to see your Errors you will in Gods due time return to us again I do not mean to joyn with those Congregations or Assemblies which are neither Reformed nor Reforming who take no care to separate the pretious from the vile Jer. 15.19 but admit all ignorant and scandalous to communion with them whose Ministers neglect Catechizing that truly profitable and necessary work to prepare people for a ripe-year Church-membership and comfortable fellowship with the Saints and the Lord Jesus Christ 1 John 1.3 but to joyn with those Congregations which are Reformed and reforming whether they be Presbyterial Independant or any other godly Ministers and Reformed Congregations for if they be godly they are Brethren Gen. 41.24 and will not fall out by the way if they be of christian peaceable spirits and such as love and desire the peace and unity amongst the Churches of Christ which every faithful soul ought to pray daily for I leave the Reader to take notice of your VALE it seems you will take your leave in Latine though you find fault with our Humane Learning But I conclude with my humble and hearty Prayers to our good God in Jesus Christ that it will please him to open your hearts to attend not to the Doctrines of men or humane Tradition which they call New lights but upon true examination will be found old E●to●s 2 Tim. 3.5 6 7. which by means of your secret Meetings seducing spirits have an easie way to draw you unto yea to wicked heresies Gal. 5.20 too frequent works of the flesh scattered by divers of you amongst poor simple souls but that you may keep close to the word of Truth the holy Scriptures not wrested 2 Pet. 3.17 and falsely applied as we see too many do to the great danger of their souls and the souls of others but according to the mind of the Holy Ghost speaking in the Scriptures and by plainer places giving light to understand those which are more difficult that being guided by that holy Spirit of Truth you may walk as becometh the Gospel of Christ not in enmity against but in peace and love with the godly faithful Ministers of Christ in England commonly so known and esteemed and in peace and love with the churches of Jesus Christ attending conscionably upon and at the publick preaching of the Gospel that you may receive strength from Christ in Grace and in the end if it be the will of God have communion with us and all the Saints of Christ in glory In the mean time let us pray with the Apostle Paul Rom. 15.6 7. Now the God of patience and consolation grant that we may be like-minded one towards another according to Christ Jesus that we may with one shoulder one mind and one mouth glorifie God even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ which is the earnest desire and Prayer of him who subscribes himself one desirous to be found A Friend and Servant to all the Churches of God in Christ Jesus Immanuel Bourne Waltham in Com. Leicester June 10. 1659. To the High and Mighty PRINCE The Captain-General of SIONS ARMIES And the Lord of Lords and King of Kings the Wonderful Counsellor the Mighty God the Everlasting Father the Prince of Peace the Great Lord Patron and Governour of his Church and Children the Lord Jesus Christ The most humble Supplication and Petition of one of his most unworthy Servants and daily Orator at the Throne of Grace MY truly gracious Lord the bless●d Father of thy poor divided John 19.23 24. distressed Church and Children thy coat was without seam woven from the top throughout O that thy Church and people were without Rents Schisms and Divisions but this is the grief of thy poor servants soul that thine and thy Churches enemies have sowed Tares among thy wheat Judg. 9.13 1 Cor. 1.12 yea that a spirit of Division is come into the midst of thy Congregations and separateth Saints from Saints so that one saith I am of Paul another I am of Apollo another I am of Cephas another I am of Christ far unlike those blessed christians in the Primitive times who were of one heart and of one soul in thy worship and service Acts 4.32 agreeing sweetly together in the Faith of thee their Lord and Saviour but alas alas how contrary are we to them by means whereof instead of that bond of love and peace Ephes 4.34 and that unity of the Spirit and truth which ought to be amongst thy Disciples behold a loosness for Divisions and a spirit of Error and Separation hath made thy Saints naked to their shame Exod. 32.25 Psal 2.1.2 3. Psal 83.2 3 4. Isai 26.8 9. Behold O Lord Satans Kingdom and the Kingdom of Antichrist can hold fast together and combine against thy Majesty and
and Ambassadour of the Lord Jesus and your Honours Servant in Christ and for Christ Immanuel Bourne TO ALL THE Reverend Godly and Faithfull Ministers Ambassadours OF JESUS CHRIST in ENGLAND Whether moderate Presbyterians Independents or of different Judgments The Blessings of Truth Peace and Love with onenesse of Spirit and Protection in the Lord Jesus Reverend Fathers Brethren IT is a sacred and certain Truth witnessed by the Spirit of God in holy Scripture and manifested in the various turnings of the wheels of Gods Providence in all ages that the Lord Jehovah the Omnipotent all-sufficient and only wise God doth and will order all things for his own eternal Glory and the everlasting happiness of his Church and Children beloved in the Lord Jesus But yet the dispensations of God and the foot-steps of his infinite wisdom are somtimes so obscure and dark that our blind and weak eyes are not able to see the cloud of his Gracious protection walking with us by day nor his pillar of fire to give us light in the night So that a troubled and trembling soul is somtimes amazed and constrained to cry out with that great Apostle Oh the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments and his waies past finding out And somtimes with the Prophet to reason the case with God in a time of trouble fear and danger O Lord how long shall I cry and thou wilt not hear even cry out of violence and thou wilt not save Why dost thou shew me iniquity and cause me to behold grievance for spoyling and violence are before me and there are that raise up strife and contention It is apparent that since the fallen Angels left their first habitation and by the subtilty of the Serpent tempted and overcame our first Parents to break that first Covenant and to sin against God and lose that happy estate wherein they were created and since God was pleased to publish the second Covenant in that Gospel-promise the seed of the woman shall break the Serpents head that old Serpent the Devil Satan and the seed of that Serpent the wicked of the world discovered at full that enmity that is in them against the seed of the woman the servants of the most high God the sons and daughters of the King of Glory in Christ the Redeemer The Lord hath prosecuted his design according to his eternal councel for the salvation of his people and to this end as he himself preached the Gospel at first and revealed his mind and will to our first Parents in Paradise so he constituted Christ his only begotten Son to be the Anointed the eternal High Priest and Prophet and King of his Church And this Prophetical Office as Christ did exercise and execute himself somtimes before and somtimes since his coming in the flesh so did he call and ordain his holy Prophets and Apostles part before and part after his resurrection yea after he ascended up on high and led captivity captive and gave gifts unto men he gave some to be Apostles and some Prophets and some Pastors and teachers for the work of the Ministry for the edification of the body of Christ untill we all come in the unity of the Faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God unto a perfect man and unto the measure of the stature of the fulnesse of Christ and hath promised to be with them to the end of the world And for their comfortable maintenance and encouragement although the great God his Father Lord of Heaven and earth after he had created the world and gave to Adam and his posterity the Lordship and dominion over the creatures to hold upon his and their good behaviour of the Lord himself their Creator as chief Lord of all yet the Lord did never give all to Adam or to his posterity but hath reserved a special part to himself as he did the tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the garden of Paradise this special part to be for his worship and service and the maintenance of his Ministers and Ambassadors to the end of the world as is fully proved to my understanding in this following Treatise But as God hath prosecuted his design to further the salvation of his people and maintenance of the Gospel and Gospel-Ministry so hath the Devil and his Angels and servants had their design to hinder the Lords great work by all subtill frauds and open hostility to their power the wicked to this end have laboured to get and keep in their hands Gods reserved part They robbed God of old before the coming of Christ and they have robbed God since and their plots and designs still are to rob the Lord Christ and his faithful Godly Ministers and Ambassadors to the utmost of their abilities both in these Nations and other Parts where the Gospel of Christ is or hath been preached It was the policy and practise of Julian that Apostate Emperour that he might more easily destroy the Gospel and Gospel-Ministry to destroy and take away their Maintenance And this certainly is and hath been the design of those who are enemies of us the Godly and Faithful Ministers of the Gospel of Jesus Christ and under the name of Antichristian Ministers seek to destroy us and our Maintenance and perswade many godly people against us and labour to stir up the godly Magistrate yea the Parliaments and powers of the Nation to take away our Tithes and to allow us no setled Maintenance but that we should live of the Charity and almes of the people that we might be starved as anti-Christian Ministers as some of them have expressed themselves to me although it is evident none are more zealous and laborious to bring down the Kingdom of Antichrist and to set King Jesus upon his Throne than we are not by blood as some dream we would have it but by the powerful preaching of the Gospel of peace and our winning of souls to God not by blood I say for this is and hath been the nature and design and practise of Antichrist that whore of Babylon to be drunk with the blood of the Saints Martyrs of Jesus Christ fulfilling the Prophecy of our Saviour that the time should come that whosoever of the blind wicked world should kill his Ministers and Disciples should think they did God good service these things shall they do unto you saith Christ because they have not known the Father nor yet me This is that which divers seduced souls have lately discovered to be their desire and design not only that the faithful witnesses may prophesie in s●ckcloath by taking away their Maintenance but be slain lie dead and unburied in the streets to the rejoycing of the wicked damnable world But the Lord hath wonderfully preserved us to this day blessed be his Name The many Pamphlets lately written and printed against Tithes or any setled Maintenance to the Ministers of