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A28899	A defence of the Scriptures, and the Holy Spirit speaking in them, as the chiefe iudge of controversies of faith ... with a vindication of that honour due to magistrates, ministers, and others ... in a relation of a disputation at Chesterfield in the county of Darby, between some ministers of the Gospell and James Naylor, an erring Quaker ... : with some animadversions upon a lying relation of that disputation, published by Iames Nayler / by Immanuel Bourne ...	Bourne, Immanuel, 1590-1672.	1656 (1656)	Wing B3852; ESTC R23281	45,977	64

rightly executed it exalteth a a Nation Prov. 14 34. but sinne is a shame to a people The want of magistracy and government prepareth a people for destruction Iudges 18.7 My Text the 2d time I preached before the honourable Iudges at Darby Assises in which I proved the necessity of and honour due to Magistrates at full witnesse that City Laish who perished suddenly And this is one reason given There was no Magistrate in the Land which might punish or put them to shame in any thing And this shall suffice to witnesse against all adversaries whatsoever and cleare up and resolve the Question into this conclusion That it is lawfull to call Master or Father and to give honour to every one even to the highest powers and to inferiour Magistrates to the honourable Judges and Justices and to all others according to their severall places and dignities whatsoever yet so as the honour and glory of God is to be exalted above all And thus I have ended these foure Questions disputed There were three more Questions but for these and Naylers answers and his crosse interrogatories I have given my sufficient answer before and my reason wherefore I print no more namely because they are so fully answered already by many learned divines that it were but to cast water into the sea as I have expressed in the one and twentieth page of this my Defence of the Scriptures c. to which I refer the Reader I shall only give some briefe Animadversions upon Naylers most false relation of that Dispute at Chesterfield and passe to a conclusion 1. It is an approved observation Rectum est index sui obliqui that a true and right rule will discover it selfe and that which is false and so will a true relation therefore I need doe no more here but refer the Reader to what I have before expressed yet to draw the curtaine a little that you may see Naylers picture the better I shall number up a number of his untruths in that most false relation of that Dispute Naylers untruths 1. In the very title Nayler calleth it a dispute between James Nayler and the parish-Teachers of Chesterfield This is an untruth for there was but one of the Parish-Teachers of Chesterfield who had any hand in that Dispute 2. In the next line he addeth By a challenge against him This is a second falshood for the challenge was on his side not only by John Prith boasting of Nayler but by other of his fellow Quakers 3. He saith the simple may see the bloody minds of these men This is a third untruth for there were no bloody minds nor thought of any persecution against him but of a Christian Conference 4. He saith when we speake faire war is in our hearts This is a fourth untruth we had not war in our hearts nor any desires but of peace and that peace and rruth might dwell together 5. He saith swearing and cursing and blaspheming the dreadfull name of God are the fruits of John Billingsley's Ministry This is a fifth untruth for Mr Bilingsley never preached any such doctrine nor approved of any such practice nor did know of the Bul-baiting Nayler spake against There was a poore man of Wingerworth neer Chesterfield his name as I was informed was William Frost who having heard Naylers desperate doctrine and read some of his books despaired and went and drowned himselfe Was this the fruits of thy Ministry Nayler thou wilt not confesse it was 6. Nayler cryeth out and calleth Mr Billingsley man-pleaser O thou man-pleaser saith he This is a sixt lie for it is evident Mr Billingsley is not a man-pleaser for he refuseth to baptize children except the parent will come unto him and be examined of the knowledge of his Faith And doth not give the Lords Supper but to such as he examineth and approveth by which too many are displeased which they would not if they did know what was good for their owne soules 7. For I let passe divers he saith God is risen to cut us off and it had been good we had never been borne And I hope this is a seventh untruth and a false prophecie But Nayler manifesteth his bloody mind he would cut off all the faithful Ministers of Christ if it were in his power The Lord rebuke him 8. Hee saith there was another plot against him Which is an eighth untruth there was not any plot as he pretended as God and our conscience can witnesse for us 9. For I omit againe divers abominable untruths observed by Mr Billingsley in that part of Naylers false relation Nayler againe saith he was shewed the many plots laid to have cast him in prison and to prosecute our bloody intents This is a 9th untruth from the father of lies if any shewed thee any such thing they were inventers and thou art a publisher of an abominable untruth 10. Nayler at the Disputation did most falsely accuse me that I did sweare by Mary when I did not so much as name Mary as all that could heare me can witnesse at full nor did I sweare at all as in my letter I writ to him the next day I justified sully and wished him to repent his lying accusation which letter he hath most falsely printed heaping up one lye after another in a most shamelesse manner as if the Spirit of lying and slander had taken ful possession of him which I leave off to rehearse as being unwilling to blot my paper with so many of his odious stinking untruths yet I shall mention one more most abominable Nayler saith page 10. That these Priests set themselves with all their strength to prove swearing lawfull c. which is a most hellish lie This was the truth when Nayler wrangling denied it to be lawfull to take any oath before a lawfull Magistrate upon any occasion Mr Billingsley proved it lawfull by divers places of Scripture both out of the Old and New Testament which Nayler basely perverteth and according to his custome raiseth that most wicked slander and here he fully maketh good that which is justified against him and his fellowes in that briefe Relation of the irreligion of the Northerne Quakers noted before page 20. basely to manifest themselves notorious lyars as in that Pamphlet called Sauls errand to Damascus in which there are a hundred untruths as may bee proved saith that Author by a hundred witnesses and many of them saith he will be as ready to say and unsay any thing as if lying were a vertue and that they make no conscience of raising false reports against any that oppose them And this I now finde to be most true in lying Nayler by this experience But if the adversaries of Christ called the Master of the house Belzeebub no marvell if these Quaking adversaries like the devil that grand Quaker do belye and scandalize the ministers of Christ The Lord forgive them if it be his will if they have not sinned that sinne

horsemen thereof Thus you see titles of honour Lord Master Father are both given and received by holy men and this without any reproofe or check of the Spirit of God recorded in the Scriptures concerning any of these examples therefore sure it was and is lawfull to give and receive titles of respect and honour to call or be called Lord or Master or Father according to every ones place and dignity All these places of Scripture were not then alledged Naylers Answer And James Nayler by his loud clamour hindred the pressing and application of those places that were alledged as much as he could and cried out that was in the Law but now in the Gospell Christ forbids to call any man Master or to be called of men Masters or Father and alledged that of our Saviour Mat. 23. But be not ye called Rabbi for one is your Master even Christ and all ye are brethren and call no man your Father upon earth for one is your Father which is in heaven And hence Nayler would infer That now in time of the Gospell it was not lawfull tocall any man Master or to be called of men Master or Father upon earth Mr Bournes Reply Then I replied and bad Nayler read the context in the verses before and if his eies were open he might see the mind of Christ that it was not absolutely to forbid his hearers to call any man Master or Father but to forbid the ambitious seeking of honor and the ambitious love of honour which was in the Scribes and Pharisees This you may finde is that that he reproveth in them in the 6 and 7 verfes They love saith Christ the uppermost rooms at Feasts and the chiefe seats in the Synagogues and greetings in the Markets and to be called of men Rabbi Rabbi And this ambitious pride and love of honour from men Christ reproveth in the Pharisees and this he forbiddeth his disciples but be not ye called Rabbi for one is your Master even Christ and all ye are brethren he would not have his Apostles to seeke superiority and power one over another in a proud ambitious manner Diotrephes-like to love to have the preheminence as 3 John 9. the Evangelist doth witnesle Diotrephes did Yet our Saviour Christ here doth not simply and absolutely forbid all giving or receiving of honour or of calling or being called of men Master or Father or Lord or Lady or the like Yet it is certaine our Saviour Christ doth forbid so to call Master or Father as to make any man the Master or Father of our Faith instead of Christ or that any man should be called Master or Father so as to take the honour of chiefe Master or Father or Teacher to himselfe which is due to Christ This is that which Christ forbiddeth and this is that which the Apostle Paul forbiddeth the Corinthians 1 Cor. 1. Now this I say saith the Apostle that every one of you saith I am of Paul and I of Apollo and I of Cephas and I of Christ One said he was Pauls Disciple another he was Apollos another he was Christs But what saith the Apostle is Christ divided was Paul crucified for you Thus they made Paul the Master or Father of their faith And this the Apostle Paul reproveth here And this Christ our Saviour reproveth and forbiddeth Mat. 23. And Christ doth forbid to give that divine honour which is due to God and Christ that God-man our Saviour to any man in the world but hee doth not forbid to give or receive civill honour and respect one to another according to each mans place and dignity or so to be called of men Master or Father or the like To this effect was the Answer given but more close and briefe then now I give it But Nayler instead of any better Answer cried out lyar lyar hold thy peace for shame doth not Christ plainly forbid to call Father or Master and made a great clamorous noise and bid si● downe for shame for shame Mr Bourns Reply Then Mr Bourn called to Nayler and bid him leave his loud shamelesse out cries and hearken to an Argument to prove the Exposition to be truth and according to the mind of Christ which was to this effect Argument 2 Whatsoever Christ himselfe or the Spirit of Christ in the Apostles of Christ doth approve of elsewhere in thenew Testament as lawfull to be done that Christ himselfe doth not forbid in that place Mat. 23. But Christ himselfe and the Spirit of Christ in the Apostles doth elsewhere approve of the calling of men Masters and Fathers and of giving other titles of respect and honour to men Therefore Christ in that place Mat. 23. did not forbid to call any man Master or Father as James Nayler pretendeth The first proposition is witnessed to be clear because Christ is truth yea the way the truth and the life and he is no way contrary to himselfe For Jesus Christ is yesterday and to day and the same for ever Heb. 13. Therefore Christ doth not forbid that here Mat. 23. which he alloweth elsewhere And for the second proposition that Christ and his spirit in the Apostles doth approve and allow fit titles of honour to bee given to men as is agreeable to their conditions in their severall places This will bee evident if you read rightly consider that of the Evangelist Marke 7. Where Christ is witnessed to repeat the Commandement Honour thy Father and thy Mother and in the next verse Christ himselfe giveth the name of Father and Mother to the parents of the man of whom he spake to the Pharisees And saith Christ ye suffer him no more to do ought for his Father and Mother Now Christ certainly would not have named Father and Mother nor have approved of those titles and that relation if it had not been lawfull And the same also doth the Spirit of Christ in the Apostle Paul in divers places read Eph. 6. Col. 3. Col. 4. and you may finde he giveth the titles of Father and Master Honour thy father and mother and fathers provoke not your children and masters give unto your servants that which is just and equall knowing that ye also have a master in heaven And the Apostle Peter to the same effect 1 Pet 2. Honour all men love the brother-hood feare God honour the King the supreme magistrate by whatsoever title he be called And servants be subject to your masters with all feare not only to the good and gentle but also to the froward so that here are earthly fathers and masters as well as God and Christ is our father and master in heaven And therefore it is evident that our Saviour Christ in that place Mat. 23. did not simply and absolutely forbid to call or to bee called master or father for if he had he would not have approved it himselfe nor would the Apostles of Christ who had the Spirit of Christ have done it as we have proved they did to