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A19242 The abatement of popish braggs, pretending Scripture to be theirs. Retorted by the hand of Alexander Cooke Cooke, Alexander, 1564-1632. 1625 (1625) STC 5658; ESTC S108620 41,426 69

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THE ABATEMENT OF POPISH BRAGGS PRETENDING SCRIPTVRE TO BE THEIRS RETORTED BY THE HAND OF ALEXANDER COOKE LONDON Printed by WILLIAM IONES dwelling in Red-Crosse-streete 1625. TO ALL LAY PAPISTS IN THIS KINGDOME DEare Countreymen and seduced brethren I religiously protest I honour some of you and loue all of you Grieuing in my very soule that you and I acknowledging one and the selfe same true God cannot hit vpon the worshiping of him after one and the selfe same true manner Oh that I might liue to see the day wherein we might agree in one But I haue small hope to see it as long as you suffer your Priest to bring you in bondage to deuoure you to take your goods as the Corinthians suffered the false Apostles to ferue them Por as the leaders of the people caused Israel to erre and their shepheards caused them to goe astray turned them away to the mountaines so it is your Priests that haue misled you and that they may make merchandize of you as the false Prophets who in St. Peters dayes taught damnable heresies made of them who followed their destruction it is your Priests who doe hinder your returne into the right way To alienate your affections from vs they tell you That we teach All sinnes are equall All Scripture is very easie That we maintaine the heresie of the Simonians which was that men might bee saued by the grace of Simon Magus and the heresie of the Eunomians which was That whosoeuer beleeued one especiall point of doctrine which they beleeusd viz. That the Son of God is altogether vnlike the Father and the Holy-Ghost vnlike the Sonne could not possibly be damned how damnably soeuer hee liued They report wee maintaine the her esy of the Repusians which was That women might be Priested and one of the heresiesof Iouinian which was That a man truely baptized could sinne no more and another of the same mans which was That the Virgin Mary at the time of her child-birth lost her virginitie They report wee maintaine that heresie of Vigilantius which was That Clergy men ought of necessity to be married and that of the Pelagtans viz That the children of the faithfull are not tainted with originall sin and that of the Graecians viz That iust men shall not see the face of god before the day of dome and that of the Pseudo apostoli which was That onely faith is sufficient to saluation without workes and that of the Nouatians which consisted in dening the Churches power to forgiue sinnes and that of the Aérians to wit That solemne fasts are not to be appointed by the Church They would make you beleeue we plainely deny Melchizedech to haue ben a Priest That we teach God can doe no more then he hath done or will doe That water in Baptisme is not necessary That we abhorre the prayers of the Saints That we take away pennance fasting chastity keeping of vowes necessity of good workes obedience to Ecclesiasticall persons That it is not in our power to choose euill That the Angels cannot helpe vs. That no saint deceased hath afterward appeared to any in earth That fasting is not grounded vpon scripture no nor blessing and in briefe to passe by many other some of them are not ashamed to say we beleeue the soules of men are mortall and that there is no resurection and that Christ Iesus is not come in the flesh from all which errors heresies and blasphemies we are as farre as they are from truth honesty On the other side to win your affections to thē they beare you in hand that the Scriptures the Fathers the Counsels are all yours that Heauen yea Hell the gates of Cities the glasse-windowes in Churches res et reculae giue testimony to your Religion Whereas yet they dare not referre the iudgement of such differences asare betweene vs either to Scripture or Fathers or Counsels but onely to the present Church which is all one in effect as if they referred it vnto themselues or to your Pope they being in their opiniō the Church representatiue the Pope being the Church virtually who only hath power to iudge of controuersies Now doe you not smell there is some pad in the straw by their diuelish slaundring of vs and their cogging with you I passe by their restraining you from reading any of ourbookes especially the Bible of our translation though one of them of late assures you That our condemnation is so expresly set downe in our owne Bibles and is so cleere to all the world that nothing more needs hereto but onely that you know to reade and to haue your eyes in your heads at the opening of our Bible which might giue you occasion to suspect some falshood for if our condemnation bee so expressely set downe in them why may not you for your greater comfort reade them Onely I wish you would be pleased to consider seriously whether it be likely they had any honest meaning in making their Indices Expurgatorios forbidding you to reade books writtē by your owne frends till they had patched something into them which might make for you and torne out of them whatsoeuer they thought did make against you Mee thinks considering your many good morall parts you should not be so stupid as not to perceiue or so blinde as not to see there is some my stery of iniquity in it that you may neither reade what your friends or foes haue written Quidam senex c A certaine old man as one of your owne writers being asked by one who had a purpose to betake himselfe into a Monastery how he should carry himselfe after his admission answered him in good earnest Tuet Asinus vnum estote Carry thy selfe like an Asse refuse no burthen that is laid vpon thy backe Doe not groane at it For my part I feare they would make Asses of you all They would haue you to receiue hand ouer head whatsoeuer they reach you to beleeue without search whatsoeuer they tel you But as some of you are Noble Gentlemen others of you good fellows be not Asse fied by them Remember that you are men men of vnderstanding and able to iudge of reason when you heare it Beleeue none of your Priests vpon their bare words without proofe but especially take heede how you lightly beleeue your ordinary Masse-Priests for in truth the most of them are ignorant Sir Iohns not much vnlike the Bishop of Dunkelden who thanked God he neuer knew what the old and new Testament was The most of them are not much guiltie of learning Take hearts vnto you beloued Countreymen and reade our bookes and our Bibles my soule for yours you may doe it with good consciences and with much profit to your selues But if you cannot be perswaded thereunto yet