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A07964 Maria triumphans Being a discourse, wherein (by way of dialogue) the B. Virgin Mary Mother of God, is defended, and vindicated, from all such dishonours and indignities, with which the precisians of these our dayes, are accustomed vniustly to charge her. N. N., fl. 1635.; Anderton, Lawrence, attributed name. aut 1635 (1635) STC 18331; ESTC S102869 83,816 338

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Now from these Words of Christ I do euict that they did deny that to wit that she was blessed who bore Christ which the Woman afore did speake and did affirme that which was not said Which is as much as to say that Christ denied Mary to be blessed and did restrayne blessednes only to them who heare and keep the Word of God This is my Aries wherewith I beate to the ground the whole Systema and frame of your Romish explanation of the Aue Maria. Mariadulus Peace Mariamastix Tell me what hope can he haue to be hereafter of the number of the Blessed who endeauours to exterminate the Queene of Heauen out of the number of the Blessed And haue you not a horrour to wound the Mothers honour with the Sonnes misconstrued Words O serpentine and almost vnpardonable malice But to your Reason which you vauntingly call your Aries I grant that Caluin your Idol argueth according to your Method herein But let Caluin repent but ô now it is to late since his poore soule remaynes in euerlasting paynes and you repent also of these your both plasphemous speaches Take notice then that our Sauiours Words in his former Answere to the Woman imports thus much Yea rather But who sayth Yea rather is presumed to affirme both that which is said and that which is to be said But withall preferreth that to be said before that which is already said For example if one saying This is a fayre Saphyre you should answere yea it is rather a fayre Diamond you do not deny it to be a Saphyre though withall your Words implye that a Diamond is a richer stone then a Saphyre But to proceed further in this my Answere Admit that Christ had said in expresse Words The Wombe that bare me is not blessed neither the Paps which I did suck but they are blessed who do heare the Word of God and keep it Admit I say so much for the tyme yet could neither Caluin nor you from hence infer that Christ denyed that which the Woman had spoken For do we not thus read Ose 6. Matth. 9. Misericordiam volo non sacrificium I will or expect Mercy and not Sacrifice and yet it cannot be necessarily deduced from these words that God would not haue Sacrifice but only rather lesse to haue it then Mercy In like sort it is said Matth. 10. Non estis vos qui loquimini sed c. It is not you that speake but the spirit of your Father which speaketh in you Yet we cannot from hence conclude that the Apostles did not speake but that it was rather the Spirit which spake in them by way of suggesting what they were to speake Thus in such kind of speaches that which seemes absolutely to be denyed is not denyed but only in reference or comparison of some other thing Now from these premisses it followeth that Christ in the former words was so far from denying that the wombe was blessed which did beare him as that he rather affirmeth the same as Beda and Theophilactus in Comment and also S. Chrysostome apud S. Tho●am do teach Thus far Mariamastix touching the Catholike Expositions of these former Passages of Scripture aboue insisted vpon by you Only before I giue a full stop hereto I do demaund of you how you can Apologize for your selfe at the most dreadfull day when our Sauiour comming in all pompe and glory to iudge the actions of euery particular Man shall say to you Thou poore Miserable Man couldest not thou be content to perpetrate diuers sinnes out of thy owne frailty but that thy illimitable wicked disposition for thy greater damnation must needs arriue to that ascent and stray●e as that not only by way of inference to depresse the worth of thy Redemption but also to wrong the Honour of my owne most deare Mother and in her my honour and dignity with thy enuenomed tongue by detorting my owne words deliuered of her to her disgrace and contumely so making me to lessen her worth and excellency I say Mariamastix what can you plead at that tyme for your excuse But proceed further in this your vndertaken Scene Mariamastix You vse a redundancy of speach and fulnes in words against my arguments thereby to seeme to lessen their force But I will proceed to other Points And next what say you to Iohn Baptist Whose worth the sacred Scripture celebrateth in these Words Matth. 11. Inter natos mulierum non surrexit maior Iohanne Baptist● There hath not risen among the borne of Women a greater then Iohn the Baptist. Heere you see the Supremacy of all Makind is ascribed to John Baptist. Hence then it followeth that Mary whom you seeke to aduance aboue all both Men and Women since she was borne of a Woman is inferiour in dignity to Iohn Baptist Heere now Mariadulus I hope you will yield to the Words of Christ And consequently then must Mary yield all superiority to Iohn Baptist. Mariadulus The knot of this your difficulty is easely loosed And first if the words by you alledged were so strictly to be taken as you pretend then should S. Iohn Baptist be greater then Christ the Redeemer of the World seing Christ is one of those who are borne of Women Secondly euen Reason demonstrateth the contrary to your Assertion For how can any Man be induced otherwise to belieue that since S. Mary is the Mother of the Redeemer of the World S. Iohn Baptist only the Precursour of the Redeemer of the World but that the B. Virgin should be so much greater then S. Iohn Baptist by how much she did stand more neere in coniunction to Christ then S. John Baptist did stand Thirdly and lastly I say that as S. Ierome doth teach S. Iohn Baptist in these Words spoken by Christ is compared only with the Holy Men of the Old Testament But Christ and his Mother as also all the Apostles do belong to the New Testament Thus Mariamastix you may perceaue how the smoake interposed between the Truth and your sight touching the ballancing of S. John Baptist my holy Patrone and I his poore suppliant with the Virgin Mary is easely dissipated and dispelled as a cloude before the sunne through the cleare illustration of the sense of the former Words of Christ But continue Mariamastix in your vndertaken Prouince Mariamastix How do you warrant so many Feasts and Holydayes celebrated by you with great pompe I may well say with superstition in remembrance of Mary A point in which I insisted in my Sermon I tell you plainly my Spirit can hardly brooke them Christ himselfe hath no more if so many peculiar feasts appointed by the Church then his Mother hath Do not then you Papists equall her in honour with Christ since in celebrating her Memory you do equall her with Christ O impious deuotion Mariadulus This your Cloud of Errour is easely dissipated and dissolued First I say How many Solemnities soeuer are kept by the Church in honour of our